Would you bet on transgender only events?

[Yogee]

Transgender women joining sporting events that were originally created for biological women has sparked some debates for some time now. I wouldn't delve into the science of it since I'm not that good about these matters anyway hehe. People argue about their physical advantage over biological women and called for changes like having a different category.

Their call has been answered first by FINA when majority voted for a ban and the creation of an open category for trans women.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/fina-votes-to-restrict-transgender-swimmers-in-competition/101166220

The rule by FINA was followed by the International Rugby League. More study will be done for a more inclusive policy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-21/international-rugby-league-bans-transgender-women-fina-policy/101169870

I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?   

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Will there be a good market for this?    

I don't think so.

It is a question of numbers. There are far fewer transgender athletes in the classic male and female categories. So I wouldn't mind betting on transgender sports, but I doubt there are enough of them in some sports to make them competitive.

Take football, for example. There aren't enough trans people to set up a football league in any country, let alone a top level one, let alone one that can compete in terms of interest with the UEFA Champions League. Or the major national leagues.

In individual sports there may be a little more scope for interest, though.

[vennali]

Completely depends on how much interest it generates and how broadcast-able it is. It will surely get a buzz for the first week of any transgender event and then slowly get to the popularity it deserves.

To be honest, the percentage of transgender male/female in the world is less that 0.4% of the world population. In that 0.4% you are trying to hire the most athletic person interested in having a career in sports. The odds that a competitive and worth watching league is created is kinda low. That's just my opinion though, lets see how it pans out.

[Jemzx00]

I don't really understand why transgender women are trying to join sports competitions that are made for women. I mean, they have the physical body of a man that has been altered to be a woman however the difference in physical strength is a lot. 

Anyways, yes, I would definitely bet on these kinds of events as it might be more fun to see them in action rather than on plain gender events. However, I don't think that there will be a huge market for these events as the only main difference is their gender but still, there's a chance that at least one sports event will have a good market for transgender people.

[mindrust]

No I wouldn’t. I am not interested in what they do, why would I bet on their games? For the same reason, I don’t bet on women games too. I don’t watch women football or anything similar. Sometimes I watch them playing beach volleyball but that’s only for fun. You get the point. When you bet on a game which you don’t know anything about the players, it is no different than flipping a coin.

[bittraffic]

If their built resembles muscular body, its definitely has the great advantage to any sport they join. Betting on them will likely get you to win.

But the protest against them joining sports event meant for women is not going to stop. Hard to pick a side for this topic since discrimination will also be raised just like the transgender who joined the beauty pageant. But I think there should just be an event for them alone. - Would this be a discrimination also?

[gunhell16]

Transgender women joining sporting events that were originally created for biological women has sparked some debates for some time now. I wouldn't delve into the science of it since I'm not that good about these matters anyway hehe. People argue about their physical advantage over biological women and called for changes like having a different category.

Their call has been answered first by FINA when majority voted for a ban and the creation of an open category for trans women.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/fina-votes-to-restrict-transgender-swimmers-in-competition/101166220

The rule by FINA was followed by the International Rugby League. More study will be done for a more inclusive policy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-21/international-rugby-league-bans-transgender-women-fina-policy/101169870

I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?   

I don't get the relevants of the transgender in betting games,  now about the question of yours "will there be a good market for this?"
perhaps, this would depend on the budget they have for this events. Let see what's their gonna do to take an action for this matter.
And frankly, I don't have any interest on it, besides there are a lot of games in crypto gambling not only this we can still choose anyway.

[davis196]

I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?  

So you think that the bookies would allow bets about sports events, where transgender women are competing against biological women?
Is that what you are trying to say? I don't think that this will happen, because:
1. Most sports federations won't allow transgender women to compete against biological women.
2. Transgender women playing against actual women doesn't seem fair to me and this will deviate the odds.
Sports bookies would definitely stay away from sports, where the competition isn't fair and it's possible for the result to be predicted.
I think that there will be separate sports events and contests for transgender people only. This might seem like discrimination, but I don't see any other way around this problem.

[yazher]

No I wouldn’t. I am not interested in what they do, why would I bet on their games? For the same reason, I don’t bet on women games too. I don’t watch women football or anything similar. Sometimes I watch them playing beach volleyball but that’s only for fun. You get the point. When you bet on a game which you don’t know anything about the players, it is no different than flipping a coin.

As soon as I see someone like that involved in sport, I turn off the TV and go to play games on my computer because things like that don't really praiseworthy. Imagine you are a man and wanted to become a woman and not only that, but you also want to get what the woman should have like their own sports and others. Now they wanted their own association in sports? I don't like the idea and this won't get any revenue because it's just pure nonsense.

[Oshosondy]

It is a question of numbers. There are far fewer transgender athletes in the classic male and female categories. So I wouldn't mind betting on transgender sports, but I doubt there are enough of them in some sports to make them competitive.

Take football, for example. There aren't enough trans people to set up a football league in any country, let alone a top level one, let alone one that can compete in terms of interest with the UEFA Champions League. Or the major national leagues.

In individual sports there may be a little more scope for interest, though.

What first comes my mind is that 'are transgender natural'? Transgender was changed from a male or female to an opposite sex by doctors in hospital in support to the person's willingness to transform into an opposite sex, this should even nullifies them to compete in sport competitions, those that supposed to be recognized should be males and females that are physically fit and also people that are physically challenged.

You are not wrong that transgender people are not many but even if they are many, they should be best be excluded from participation or maybe the world wants to be in support of it. But there are still sport that is meant for not many people that they can participate like in running, jumping, table, lawn tennis and many others.

[Maus0728]

So you think that the bookies would allow bets about sports events, where transgender women are competing against biological women?
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I think what he meant is the title of the thread.
If it's transgender-only sports, then I think it would be fine because personally, it is another form of entertainment without having to consider which participant is in handicap. Regardless of their philosophical bullshits, or any other science-based research, I am certain that there will still be issues and will just result in neverending debate.

Is this a solution? Of course not! Even if you say that they are all trans, governing bodies should still impose rules in terms of their body measurements or even perhaps genetics?

[ImThour]

I am not against any gender however there should not be sports for something other than male and female.

Why so? Because if you allow transgender players to a female competition, they will have an edge over it.
And if you allow transgenders to play in a male-only competition, they will be weaker.

Competition only for transgender will not garnish any views or ticket sales, which is the only reason no one is willing to organize them.
I hope this makes sense however I would love if there can be any proposal with changes that helps them to be part of the sports.

[Uang_kartal]

maybe the opinion of the board or an expert in this field will say that something in the right category will add interest and feel exclusive. Do you think this is not intimidating for them (transgender)?
I only focus on what is offered in any game or gambling.
The way an event is in my opinion is the main thing. Even though it's for entertainment purposes, both men and women, I will enjoy it regardless of their quality in the arena.
I think fans or other spectators will also feel the same about a skill, gain and everything that is fun in it.
I think it will be safe and fine. But if it's a new breakthrough, I'm looking forward to that game.

[swogerino]

I would not know how to bet in the first place even if we get a sport for these persons I doubt we will get good athletes from that low amount that they are in the world population as said before 0.4% of the total world population.

I also doubt that many countries would allow them to be broadcasting this type of sport/events in TV for example,a lot of European countries although they say they are all liberal and they respect any right for any person in the world there is a vast majority of the countries in Eu that stay loyal to the Church.Maximum we would see these type of sport events only broadcasting via Internet and to a low audience which I think very few persons would bet for these type of event.

[bittraffic]

Why so? Because if you allow transgender players to a female competition, they will have an edge over it.
And if you allow transgenders to play in a male-only competition, they will be weaker.

They are allowing this actually which female trans can join the men only competition.

Female-to-male transgender athletes — transgender men — are fully eligible to compete in men's swimming competitions.

Fairness is the cornerstone of sport as being said in the article. But what chance a woman does to male competitors when she joins?
But It would really be shameful to see a woman wins a swimming competition in an international level.

High chance that it will be abused if they allow a man turned woman in international sports event like Olympics to win more gold.

[Mauser]

I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?   

To be honest it is ridiculous who let men who identify now as a woman compete against biological woman. I am glad the world is waking up now and fixing this. If there was a nationwide if trans sport people should be included in female sport or not, I am sure there wouldn't be a 50% majority. Another thing is also, why are there no woman who want to be men and compete in men sports? Because they would have no chance, so why allow it the other way round?
Now if there will be trans leagues coming up and showing their sport events, I don't expect many viewers for it. Just by looking at the difference between male and female sports we see that most people are just not interested in female sports. Why would they now start watching trans sports. Also are there even enough trans athletes to compete against each other? If there are no real tournaments or competition that there will also be no betting market for it. Personally I am not going to bet on it.

[Kakmakr]

Let me put it to you in this way...

I will much rather bet on something where the odds are more fair, than betting on something where one of the athletes have some kind of advantage over another. The sporting organizations that makes the rules has banned all steroids that will boost an athletes testosterone levels, but some people seem to think that it is "fair" for transgender people to compete with natural higher testosterone levels.  

I say.... make it a fair contest and I will support whatever Sport they play in. (No matter what sexual orientation they have)  

[danherbias07]

It's how much impact they will make to be a known sport in their category for me to bet on it.
Let's take WNBA as an example. Those are ladies + basketball which is a known sport but yet they don't get too much support from the gambling industry.
A gambler who bets on WNBA is a rare one because most would prefer the known men's category which is NBA.
First, they must gain a big audience, then betting will come as more people are hooked on the game, gender won't matter, I think.

[Smartprofit]

I don't really understand why transgender women are trying to join sports competitions that are made for women. I mean, they have the physical body of a man that has been altered to be a woman however the difference in physical strength is a lot. 

Anyways, yes, I would definitely bet on these kinds of events as it might be more fun to see them in action rather than on plain gender events. However, I don't think that there will be a huge market for these events as the only main difference is their gender but still, there's a chance that at least one sports event will have a good market for transgender people.

The creation of separate sports competitions for transgender people may entail reform of the entire sports industry. 

Modern sports allow the use of swimsuits made of innovative synthetic materials that allow you to swim faster than if the athlete was completely naked. 

However, doping is prohibited.... 

You can improve sports equipment, but you cannot improve athletes' bodies. 

In the future, it is possible that in sports it will be allowed to improve the body of athletes by various methods - with the help of biochips, with the help of genetic engineering, with the help of modern pharmacology, etc.

At the same time, the ban on the cardinal transformation of the bodies of athletes will be lifted.

[LodisMcguire]

If they are making the transgender only event,sure there will be a market for them,but will it be popular? Looking at the respond of the people,i think it will take quite a long time for it to be recognized.Will i bet for this kind of event? If there are many people who participate,why not?