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July 13, 2022, 10:28:58 PM
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KYC casino , this is safe and always friendly ,because if you are not hiding anything then there is nothing that will hinder you from laying with KYC complying.
Today, it looks normal to just pass on with a KYC from the casino where we're playing. But years ago, that was not really a thing and not acceptable for most users since we'll just defend about crypto = decentralization and there's no need for any KYC.
But nowadays, it's not a problem anymore and we do understand that the governments are the one that's requiring this to them and them, they're just passing it on customers.
If there's no other place that you could run then you would really be ending up on complying on whats been asked by these casinos.If they do require KYC then you have to comply on it before you can play but basing
up with the current market today then theres only a few who do imply kyc and the rest are still on that similar situation where you could just simply play without providing those details or simply still that anonymous.
I dont care about bonuses or cashbacks because we do know that they do really set out unrealistic kind of requirements for some gamblers to be successfully able to make profits with  those bonuses.
If  you are lucky enough then good but in most cases, people do lose all of their money before they could able to reach out such threshold or requirement.
When do we say a few, how many that could be? We've seen those complaints from different casinos that they've been asked for a KYC when they're about to withdraw because they've been found on their accounts with some suspicious activities and that's what they're asked to do for them to be allowed for the withdrawal. If they will just do it once there for the release of their money, I think after going to another casino, that won't be a big matter to them anymore if asked again.

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When do we say a few, how many that could be? We've seen those complaints from different casinos that they've been asked for a KYC when they're about to withdraw because they've been found on their accounts with some suspicious activities and that's what they're asked to do for them to be allowed for the withdrawal. If they will just do it once there for the release of their money, I think after going to another casino, that won't be a big matter to them anymore if asked again.

It just infuriates me that someone I don’t know there, who has nothing to do with me, demands that I introduce myself, and even send him a photo of documents.   Sad
Therefore, I do not think that those who once passed KYC in a certain casino will continue to send their documents to everyone without any problems.  And do not forget that any KYC always wastes our time, and this can be a long time if we also have to wait for confirmation.
Rubbish all the same, this KYC is an idiotic procedure invented by the American authorities.

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July 14, 2022, 10:19:57 AM
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When do we say a few, how many that could be? We've seen those complaints from different casinos that they've been asked for a KYC when they're about to withdraw because they've been found on their accounts with some suspicious activities and that's what they're asked to do for them to be allowed for the withdrawal. If they will just do it once there for the release of their money, I think after going to another casino, that won't be a big matter to them anymore if asked again.
Yes, that's correct. Many gamblers are eventually asked to do KYC by the casino but those gamblers don't want to do it for various reasons. Maybe for small gamblers, that reason is acceptable because they really don't use big money. But if it's the big gamblers who win more money, maybe the casino wants to know who they really are so the casino asks them to KYC. Moreover, if they carry out suspicious activity, the casino will be more strict in monitoring it and may ask for a complete KYC.

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July 14, 2022, 01:17:22 PM
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Yes, that's correct. Many gamblers are eventually asked to do KYC by the casino but those gamblers don't want to do it for various reasons. Maybe for small gamblers, that reason is acceptable because they really don't use big money. But if it's the big gamblers who win more money, maybe the casino wants to know who they really are so the casino asks them to KYC. Moreover, if they carry out suspicious activity, the casino will be more strict in monitoring it and may ask for a complete KYC.
Not at all but for some suspicious accounts only, if you're not that of a huge gambler that deposits, withdraw or even got those huge wins that I think wouldn't arise on the casino. Sometimes they don't, other casinos tend to be harsh like freezing it and we've seen that countless times in the past, but yes they begins it by the usual strict monitoring but others tend not to.
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July 14, 2022, 10:24:56 PM
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When do we say a few, how many that could be? We've seen those complaints from different casinos that they've been asked for a KYC when they're about to withdraw because they've been found on their accounts with some suspicious activities and that's what they're asked to do for them to be allowed for the withdrawal. If they will just do it once there for the release of their money, I think after going to another casino, that won't be a big matter to them anymore if asked again.
It just infuriates me that someone I don’t know there, who has nothing to do with me, demands that I introduce myself, and even send him a photo of documents.   Sad
Therefore, I do not think that those who once passed KYC in a certain casino will continue to send their documents to everyone without any problems.  And do not forget that any KYC always wastes our time, and this can be a long time if we also have to wait for confirmation.
Rubbish all the same, this KYC is an idiotic procedure invented by the American authorities.
What I meant to say is that you've done it once and if ever the new casino where you're playing recently asks you, you'll also comply especially if you've got your funds left. It's true that no one will have it to them being sent if there's no problem but, the actual problem can happen again that they'll ask for random verification and we can't do anything with that. You're right that majority of us don't really like it and we do comply just to take our money and then leave them forever.

Yes, that's correct. Many gamblers are eventually asked to do KYC by the casino but those gamblers don't want to do it for various reasons. Maybe for small gamblers, that reason is acceptable because they really don't use big money. But if it's the big gamblers who win more money, maybe the casino wants to know who they really are so the casino asks them to KYC. Moreover, if they carry out suspicious activity, the casino will be more strict in monitoring it and may ask for a complete KYC.
They've got their own purpose and no one can skip that, small or big time gamblers, we're all bound to do that if the casino feels that we have to be asked and that's what we don't like because we don't know when it's coming.

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July 15, 2022, 04:11:43 AM
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Not at all but for some suspicious accounts only, if you're not that of a huge gambler that deposits, withdraw or even got those huge wins that I think wouldn't arise on the casino. Sometimes they don't, other casinos tend to be harsh like freezing it and we've seen that countless times in the past, but yes they begins it by the usual strict monitoring but others tend not to.
To avoid casino suspicion, we better not use too big money, maybe under $50 is enough to have fun at gambling. But don't use $50 for one play because it will cause us to deposit money again if we want to play later. Also, if we win, the casino will probably watch us more closely, which can later trigger unwanted KYC.

They've got their own purpose and no one can skip that, small or big time gamblers, we're all bound to do that if the casino feels that we have to be asked and that's what we don't like because we don't know when it's coming.
As long as we don't cross the limits set by the casino, it looks like our account will be safe and there is no need to do KYC unless the casino applies it randomly to all its member accounts. That will keep all member accounts from being watched by the casino. If that's the case, we can only wait but also look for other casinos that will not apply KYC or impose restrictions on their members.

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July 15, 2022, 10:01:53 AM
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Well perhaps the same on Roobet.
I was there from the first launching on their website and join the signature campaign, they did not require KYC before but after they gained forum users' trust they changed -- and they required users to have KYC and pass documents proof. I think their strategy was right, from no KYC to becoming a KYC casino but first build your trust and reputation first before people trust your company.
Perhaps there is no wrong with KYC if we trust the gambling casino and already built their reputation --but on the new one, never.
Any casino have to become trusted and i think that they don`t need any KYC first time. But if they begin to use KYC later - it can become a problem - some gamblers can feel cheated and leave such casino.
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I just want to say a word in defense of Roobet here. Smiley I'm sure it wasn't like, "Let's make them register and then ask for KYC later". The site itself doesn't need your personal data, and they would never ask for it themselves. But if at some point the authorities force them to gather KYC data from their users, being a licensed casino they simply have no choice.

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July 15, 2022, 10:59:58 AM
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Well perhaps the same on Roobet.
I was there from the first launching on their website and join the signature campaign, they did not require KYC before but after they gained forum users' trust they changed -- and they required users to have KYC and pass documents proof. I think their strategy was right, from no KYC to becoming a KYC casino but first build your trust and reputation first before people trust your company.
Perhaps there is no wrong with KYC if we trust the gambling casino and already built their reputation --but on the new one, never.
Any casino have to become trusted and i think that they don`t need any KYC first time. But if they begin to use KYC later - it can become a problem - some gamblers can feel cheated and leave such casino.
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I just want to say a word in defense of Roobet here. Smiley I'm sure it wasn't like, "Let's make them register and then ask for KYC later". The site itself doesn't need your personal data, and they would never ask for it themselves. But if at some point the authorities force them to gather KYC data from their users, being a licensed casino they simply have no choice.

This is probably true, they implemented the KYC requirement due to regulatory obligations. However, that still doesn't justify the way they did it. Roobet actively promoted itself as an anonymous casino, it was even highlighted in their ANN on this forum. And suddenly, out of the blue, they decided to force KYC requirements on all their customers. That was, in my opinion, wrong and immoral.

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July 15, 2022, 11:31:20 AM
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To be honest I personally don't pay much attention to bonuses, maybe the first thing I thought was to avoid KYC as much as possible regardless of the bonus amount they offered to exchange my ID card pic.

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and they required users to have KYC and pass documents proof.
I think you are wrong. No proof of any documents is required for lvl.1 at least (possibly) up to a certain amount of withdrawal. I prefer the way Roobet collects KYC (more precisely Australian regulatory policy). Basically (if it did) the authorities would only ask for collective data for all customers such as a list.

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July 15, 2022, 11:57:02 AM
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To be honest I personally don't pay much attention to bonuses, maybe the first thing I thought was to avoid KYC as much as possible regardless of the bonus amount they offered to exchange my ID card pic.


Same here, even if a gambling site has good bonuses but if it will require me to submit the documents for KYC, then that is not a good site for me. We are in the crypto world, so we should know what we are looking here, we like full privacy and that does should only mean no KYC.

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July 15, 2022, 12:01:07 PM
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To be honest I personally don't pay much attention to bonuses, maybe the first thing I thought was to avoid KYC as much as possible regardless of the bonus amount they offered to exchange my ID card pic.


Same here, even if a gambling site has good bonuses but if it will require me to submit the documents for KYC, then that is not a good site for me. We are in the crypto world, so we should know what we are looking here, we like full privacy and that does should only mean no KYC.

Actually most of the trusted crypto casino doesn’t required KYC upfront during registration so you can eliminate it already as first criteria on choosing one but most of them ask it after you register and made deposit when you commit violation to there terms. Maybe you should look on that part.

Bonus is what makes crypto casino unique to each other since as I already explained above. Most of them didn’t require KYC as being crypto casino.

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Actually most of the trusted crypto casino doesn’t required KYC upfront during registration so you can eliminate it already as first criteria on choosing one but most of them ask it after you register and made deposit when you commit violation to there terms. Maybe you should look on that part.

Bonus is what makes crypto casino unique to each other since as I already explained above. Most of them didn’t require KYC as being crypto casino.
when you first register or create an account, you don't need KYC to make a deposit and start betting. but mostly need KYC when the account gets a big win. and will make a withdrawal.
including suspicious behavior in VPN use and IP address switching. it may require KYC for account recovery so it can be used for games again. I encountered this problem too when changing devices to open the casino and make withdrawals. KYC asked the casino for a security pretext.



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July 15, 2022, 07:16:34 PM
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when you first register or create an account, you don't need KYC to make a deposit and start betting. but mostly need KYC when the account gets a big win. and will make a withdrawal.
including suspicious behavior in VPN use and IP address switching. it may require KYC for account recovery so it can be used for games again. I encountered this problem too when changing devices to open the casino and make withdrawals. KYC asked the casino for a security pretext.
I believe that if online casinos are planning efforts for KYC apart from deposit, withdrawal and bonus offers requirements, another attempt is to enforce requirements for VPN users and restrict access to some casino features if not completing KYC. However, online casino accounts have to verify KYC, ultimately many users are very disappointed because casinos have lowered the anonymity factor of users who don't want KYC.

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July 15, 2022, 07:47:34 PM
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To be honest I personally don't pay much attention to bonuses, maybe the first thing I thought was to avoid KYC as much as possible regardless of the bonus amount they offered to exchange my ID card pic.
It's seems my thoughts are presented here . I'm also avoid those casino who required KYC verification in the beginning but it's ok when one person win a jackpot . But it's also a problem for the vpn users. But I think everyone should avoid those kinda casino who required kyc at the beginning because here is the chances of data stealing.

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July 15, 2022, 08:27:47 PM
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I'm also avoid those casino who required KYC verification in the beginning but it's ok when one person win a jackpot .
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 But I think everyone should avoid those kinda casino who required kyc at the beginning because here is the chances of data stealing.

lol, kind of weird. "It's not good when casino asking me to KYC from the start, but it's ok when they force me to do this if I want to withdraw my money"

In my opinion it's the other way around: It's fine to know that they want KYC from you from the start, than to find it while you're with your money frozen. 


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July 15, 2022, 09:59:18 PM
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To be honest I personally don't pay much attention to bonuses, maybe the first thing I thought was to avoid KYC as much as possible regardless of the bonus amount they offered to exchange my ID card pic.
It's seems my thoughts are presented here . I'm also avoid those casino who required KYC verification in the beginning but it's ok when one person win a jackpot . But it's also a problem for the vpn users. But I think everyone should avoid those kinda casino who required kyc at the beginning because here is the chances of data stealing.
^ How about those casinos that did not require KYC at the beginning but a few months later they will announce that they implement KYC procedure?
All centralized platforms expect that there is KYC and we have nothing to do with that matter, all we have to do is read the ToS and find a review that they are legitimate. Because whether we like it or not, the time will come for all online gambling platforms will implement this KYC since they are all decentralized and there is nothing we can do.
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July 15, 2022, 10:45:46 PM
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They've got their own purpose and no one can skip that, small or big time gamblers, we're all bound to do that if the casino feels that we have to be asked and that's what we don't like because we don't know when it's coming.
As long as we don't cross the limits set by the casino, it looks like our account will be safe and there is no need to do KYC unless the casino applies it randomly to all its member accounts. That will keep all member accounts from being watched by the casino. If that's the case, we can only wait but also look for other casinos that will not apply KYC or impose restrictions on their members.
It is the typical case at most times. The casino won't be asking it if you've got no strange activity into your account, you can take a guess what does mean to them.
But usually, it's about the amount that you deposit to them and if it's all of a sudden and it's big, they'll sort of flag that, and if you're about to withdraw, they'll ask you to KYC if you've just used them as a mixer.
If you're gambling for good and you're doing nothing like that, you're clean as you may go and can enjoy.

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July 16, 2022, 10:18:04 AM
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The discussion here is certainly controversial. because Indeed Most casinos did not require KYC but offered bonuses anyway.I will gamble where there is no KYC because I don't come to play in this casino for offers or bonuses.Although now many gambling casinos without KYC have a large number of players joining the casino they don't care about any bonuses.
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July 16, 2022, 02:01:56 PM
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^ How about those casinos that did not require KYC at the beginning but a few months later they will announce that they implement KYC procedure?

Generally KYC is meant for withdrawals. As long as without KYC I can continue to play, I'll spend the money on a few bets. At least I still have some spare money in the casino for entertainment for the next few weeks.
It's not that I won't change my decision by giving up KYC somehow, especially if I win a lot Grin. I have said previously that it's "as much as possible", not a must.

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July 16, 2022, 03:30:27 PM
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The discussion here is certainly controversial. because Indeed Most casinos did not require KYC but offered bonuses anyway. I will gamble where there is no KYC because I don't come to play in this casino for offers or bonuses. Although now many gambling casinos without KYC have a large number of players joining the casino they don't care about any bonuses.
Bonuses are set aside for me when I found a good gambling site that requires no KYC. And I'll prefer to gamble with that casino than a casino that required  many KYC, ill prefer to be Anonymous in the world of gambling so I decided to play in no KYC casino and I think another gambler will want to play in that casino not because There's no hassle in  withdrawal but to remain anonymous as well.

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