WHY ITS SO POSITIVE THIS BEARMARKET.

[lionheart78]

The only thing that keeps me positive about this bear market is the ongoing discounted sales of Bitcoin.  Nothing more nothing less.  It would be idiotic that we are here because we love Bitcoin, no it is not the love for Bitcoin but for the love of profit.  The market cannot be cleansed of those things stated on OP, because they are part of the market economy.  they will keep on appearing no matter how hard the bear market tries to cleanse them.

[shogun47]

WHY ITS SO POSITIVE THIS BEARMARKET. 

The bear market, and especially the crypto winter stage, is an investment paradise and a hell for speculator traders and short-term investors. Those who are experienced in the crypto world always know that the best time to buy is when everything is at an absolute bottom, as it was, for example, in February 2019 or March-April 2020. Those who invested in such periods for the medium or long term received tens or hundreds of x (if we are talking about altcoins).

And of course, if you are an altcoin investor, then crypto winter is just as good an indicator of what will grow in the future, and what will die forever without recovering. I hope this crypto winter cleans up a bunch of crap in NFTs, Metaverse, DeFi, meme tokens, etc.

In any case, for those who want to start getting familiar with crypto investments, now is a very good time to start.

I think it is more about being able to analyze the general tendency of the market sentiment. Because let's be honest, who would have thought that we go to 50k when we hit 60k, and who would have thought that we hit 40k when we hit 50k. If you get the sentiment right you can use your funds wisely and average down until we really hit the bottom, which I think might now be the case give or take. I guess most people over-invest when Bitcoin takes a 20% hit. It drops from 70k to 55k and then they think this is the moment where I go all in again. That is how you get rekt and to be honest I made that experience myself early on.

I definitely agree that it is once more time again to really get some projects wiped out that aren't even worth being listed on CMC. But what can you do right? Everyone can launch a BEP20 token these days and at least get it listed on CMC at some point. There is a positive and a negative side to the fact that crypto is so inclusive, but at times, as you said, a clean up is really necessary!

[so98nn]

That’s indeed needed, the cleaning of garbage is always needed time to time but the problem with crypto ecosystem is, the more you clean it the more it becomes messy here. There are huge collection of shitcoins and more and more keeps coming everyday.

You can’t clean it but you can ignore it all the time. Just to keep it less messy I’m always opting out for bitcoin, ether, and bunch of mineable coins. You know that Short and simple strategy.

[WeedGoW]

Everyone has a different take on the market, I guess. To some, it was the worse possible thing that could be happened but to some, it was the new opportunity to accumulate the crypto they want. Maybe you don't have too many stakes in crypto or this bearish seem like a fart that eventually goes away.

[Jody.Drummer]

1-   We need to clean of the market all the shitcoins. We cant have a market with thousands of coins and tokens and the mayoriti of them only go up because the market its bullish. That its clearly not healthy.

The first point really needs to be done so that market movements look much healthier than manipulation as long as influential people try to backfire. Bitcoin with a bear market has started to recover cleaner, healthier and moving naturally. That is what the future growth of Bitcoin is trying to achieve. although not completely in a stable price environment and recovery vigilance should remain.

Therefore, invest where you are not influenced by outside factors, because the money you have is completely controlled by awareness not greed.

[Furious 7]

The only thing that keeps me positive about this bear market is the ongoing discounted sales of Bitcoin.  Nothing more nothing less.  It would be idiotic that we are here because we love Bitcoin, no it is not the love for Bitcoin but for the love of profit.  The market cannot be cleansed of those things stated on OP, because they are part of the market economy.  they will keep on appearing no matter how hard the bear market tries to cleanse them.

You find an important point here it's quite interesting when we talk about bitcoin because it doesn't mean we like it but it's much deeper is that we really like the benefits it provides. many people who persist does not mean they really like it but still believe in the benefits that will be given later so that indeed many are still on this path. It would be a completely different story if they didn't have the advantage there.

[STT]

Price up or down doesn't represent negative or positive like we think it does anyway.   Its maybe easier to say for houses rather then BTC but a lower price can open that market upto a larger number of users, there is higher utility at the lower price and so that asset becomes better established.  Growth of society matters, an overall economy not one commodity or priced asset.  The most important thing is BTC continues to be used and useful to as many people on this planet as possible, your own self interest in a profit this year is a distant target that is really only of incidental importance.

   People criticize capitalism often, it can brutal for sure but a product only really continues if its of use to society; otherwise it is discarded and diminished, taken over and used as parts for a greater objective.  The market matters, the people who play within it really come second and we have to be grateful for BTC resilience even with a lower price it is still a positive trend but more patience is required, price isnt everything.

[wxa7115]

The only thing that keeps me positive about this bear market is the ongoing discounted sales of Bitcoin.  Nothing more nothing less.  It would be idiotic that we are here because we love Bitcoin, no it is not the love for Bitcoin but for the love of profit.  The market cannot be cleansed of those things stated on OP, because they are part of the market economy.  they will keep on appearing no matter how hard the bear market tries to cleanse them.

You find an important point here it's quite interesting when we talk about bitcoin because it doesn't mean we like it but it's much deeper is that we really like the benefits it provides. many people who persist does not mean they really like it but still believe in the benefits that will be given later so that indeed many are still on this path. It would be a completely different story if they didn't have the advantage there.

The truth is that everyone is in bitcoin for the benefits, now a great deal of people only care about the economic benefits they can get, as they can see the price of bitcoin is cheap now and they understand the potential its has to go up in the future.

However there are many other which are invested in bitcoin for the other benefits they can get, like improved privacy, avoiding banks and governments, being part of something which will change the way the world works and a long list of benefits that bitcoin offers other than the most obvious one, which are the economic benefits.

[Jemzx00]

That’s indeed needed, the cleaning of garbage is always needed time to time but the problem with crypto ecosystem is, the more you clean it the more it becomes messy here. There are huge collection of shitcoins and more and more keeps coming everyday.

You can’t clean it but you can ignore it all the time. Just to keep it less messy I’m always opting out for bitcoin, ether, and bunch of mineable coins. You know that Short and simple strategy.

There might be a lot of shitcoins that has been taken out during the bear market however there are good coins that has been affected along the way. Also, you can never clean out shitcoins since alot of people have been creating them easily and there are someone who are willing to invest on it due to the quick profit it provide to early investors. So whether the market is bullish or bearish, there will always be a market for shitcoins out there.

[Furious 7]

You find an important point here it's quite interesting when we talk about bitcoin because it doesn't mean we like it but it's much deeper is that we really like the benefits it provides. many people who persist does not mean they really like it but still believe in the benefits that will be given later so that indeed many are still on this path. It would be a completely different story if they didn't have the advantage there.

The truth is that everyone is in bitcoin for the benefits, now a great deal of people only care about the economic benefits they can get, as they can see the price of bitcoin is cheap now and they understand the potential its has to go up in the future.

Indirectly, your profits are also part of the benefits and indeed this is something you are looking for. As for saying the potential will increase in the future, it is indeed something that must be believed but sometimes for now many are still doubting the result of a lack of research and knowledge that makes a lot of people, especially beginners, are not sure and think this is something wrong that makes this getting complicated. but if they had learned something like this beforehand this wouldn't have happened.

[Jody.Drummer]

The truth is that everyone is in bitcoin for the benefits, now a great deal of people only care about the economic benefits they can get, as they can see the price of bitcoin is cheap now and they understand the potential its has to go up in the future.

Indirectly, your profits are also part of the benefits and indeed this is something you are looking for. As for saying the potential will increase in the future, it is indeed something that must be believed but sometimes for now many are still doubting the result of a lack of research and knowledge that makes a lot of people, especially beginners, are not sure and think this is something wrong that makes this getting complicated. but if they had learned something like this beforehand this wouldn't have happened.

People will tend to like it because what Bitcoin has to offer is very broad and provides the value of financial freedom that they have been looking for that have never been found in investing or trading other assets. This is a fact that the future of finance has begun to be understood by society in general, and of course the increase in adoption has also made crypto trading and investment a familiar tool.

[cute nmp]

To so many people bear market is a good time to buy. Many used to take advantage of such market conditions to make investment so as to make huge profits Everytime the market recovers.Personally I don't like the bear market my portfolio is not looking great at the moment and I don't like buying any altcoins during this type of market situation.

[darxiaomi]

Well first to all, really glad to see a lot of response and a good discussion between us. 

WHY ITS SO POSITIVE THIS BEARMARKET. 

The bear market, and especially the crypto winter stage, is an investment paradise and a hell for speculator traders and short-term investors. Those who are experienced in the crypto world always know that the best time to buy is when everything is at an absolute bottom, as it was, for example, in February 2019 or March-April 2020. Those who invested in such periods for the medium or long term received tens or hundreds of x (if we are talking about altcoins).

And of course, if you are an altcoin investor, then crypto winter is just as good an indicator of what will grow in the future, and what will die forever without recovering. I hope this crypto winter cleans up a bunch of crap in NFTs, Metaverse, DeFi, meme tokens, etc.

In any case, for those who want to start getting familiar with crypto investments, now is a very good time to start.

I think exactly the same.

Its a one phrase of the investment say.

"You need tou buy when the blood is in the streets also if the blood is yours."

Yes doesnt sounds so good but its how it works.

And for all the guys here who says to me, its not fault of the traders for the price going below so much for the "stop loss" and leveraging. The other day the CEO of Binance say exactly that.
The price go so down because of a lot of deleveraging. So please take off the blindfold.

[amishmanish]

See crypto is still in its expansion phase. People are already bleeding out in conventional investments as markets are crashing. However the crypto has time and again proven itself to be stronger holding and has shown resilience and resurrected like a phoenix out of fire after crashes. So to many it  seem a better safe house against market freefalls. Moreover everyone knows that blockchain investments have good future. Thus people are investing in Bitcoin even when they know its falling. Infact its the falls which make the investment more lucrative 

[Zilon]

4-   CLEAN the trading boys, and for me this its one of the most important things.
And when i said this im not saying you cant trade, but i refered to the boys who want to make money in short times and takes with they the childish way of thinking and also all the tricks of the traders. One of the worst its the “stop loss”. Because that tool produces a cascade in the Price, clearly affecting us when we are holding.

This tool make a ton of auto-sells if the Price go below and with that a cascade keep producing and the big player can make a huge profit and destroying the price.

I will like to understand better how stop loss affects price. Stop loss is only a tool in trading that limits the losses of traders and has no effect on prices. If a trader places a stop loss it doesn't change the direction of the trend and the effect of such action only affects the trader and not the market.

After we pass this storm we can have a much better financial ecosystem in crypto.
A more healthy one, i thin the NFTs made a lot of damage to the ecosystem carrying with him more and more childish thinking boys. And this was a short Little of time after the another wave of damage received by the so called “play to earn”.

Again dont missundestand me, im not opposing against this things but yes against the wave of idiots they carry.

I will agree with you that NFTs are bunch of distractions full so much noise with it's trendy nature with no value attached to it which make it uncategorically belonging to no asset class 

After this negative i show you some positives.

Every time we hit a bear market here in crypto always was a step ahead.

In the first nobody talks a lot of Bitcoin and was marginal.

In the second , small investors and some snoobs invest, and some press take an eye.

In 2018 we have more serious investors and more press coverage.

And now we have a lot more serious investor, companies, investment funds.

As you can see we are ever growning and now we are maturing, we keep growing but like a human now we reach some height and we are cleaning the body of all the shit we do in our adolescence.
In human terms, crypto market maybe has 25 years old.

Disclaimer: Sorry if my semantic its not good, im not a native speaker.
Disclaimer 2 : Im not a maximalist.

Do we say we are stripping the market of all redundancy and noise at the moment, shitting away  shitcoins so the market could get a new structure and looks during the next bull run. 

[NeuroticFish]

Bitcoin market has shown it goes in cycles and people do expect it to get on bull market rather soon.
With every passing year there is a bigger percent of people who is still on profit even in the middle of crypto winter (2017 ATH was under 20k, remember?), hence a bigger percent of people is calm and call for calm.

So as long as one doesn't do anything stupid (like investing in a scam or a worthless project) should be fine sooner or later.


PS. This is the view of a Bitcoiner; I will add though from my experience that one should not really count on the recovery of any altcoin, they usually perform badly on very long terms. Bitcoin is the only one (or one of very-very few) with actual good history.

[19Nov16]

If the price continues to rise then there is no chance for anyone who wants to invest bitcoin, when the bearmarket then this makes new users interested in investment and old users will continue to buy because they know the price will be normal again.

[Wind_FURY]

OP, it's also not only about "cleaning" the dumb money, in fact I wish it didn't happen because many people, especially newbies, lost their savings because of trading WITH TOO MUCH LEVERAGE.

What's very positive about this bear market is, the narrative isn't "Bitcoin is dead". The current narrative is, "how low will Bitcoin crash, so I can Buy the DIP, HODL".

[ultrloa]

Its positive for people who always see an opportunity on bear market season we see many traders are so happy about this that's why many of them got a lot of profits after bull run came. And this one need to understand by people who get panic about certain situation like this because if they panic for sure they lose a lot of money for that. But I can't blame people to act like that since sometimes bad sentiments can affect the emotion of people especially if they are new on crypto.

[stadus]

We witness the same market but we see it differently, those who have weak hands, they see the market as it will collapse so they will panic, but those who see the opportunity, they see the market as a chance for them to accumulate again.

Actually, there's nothing to panic about because we've seen bitcoin dumped many times and yet it still has recovered and even surprise us with a bull run.
Thing is, if we panic, we will fail to see the opportunity, so just relax, believe, and keep educating ourselves about crypto.