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July 13, 2022, 06:29:58 PM
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Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.
This one of the major issues gamblers are facing that are making the experience ones to avoid KYC gambling sites. When you win big, most gambling platforms would want to know your identity by asking your to submit your identity or loss getting paid. I don't know why this is done always but there should be an end to this. Cryptocurrency gambling should be decentralized and platforms should stop asking us of our identity before we make withdrawals which is not encouraging to me.
I for one is also not in favor on how these platforms uses KYC procedures as their shields and I really think they are already abusing their boundaries. If they want to ask KYC then they should've had asked it while we're still registering our account and not when we withdraws the funds. What do they expect? We signed up so frankly we are looking forward to have some winnings and they can always trace these funds if indeed it comes from playing games and not just from another account.
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July 13, 2022, 09:20:33 PM
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Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.
Of course, the majority would still want to remain their identity hidden, and releasing a piece of personal information is really risky if there will be a time that the site will be hacked, we never know and it's better to be safe than sorry. But I guess we will just have to get used to it because, in no time, we won't have the same freedom we have now as sooner or later, all casinos will ask KYC upon registering at their platform.
Yes, we never know how secure a gambling site can be and with our permission in submitting our personal information once that happen we are also placing ourselves in danger as hackers can simply use this info to an illegal thing online, or they can sell it out. The reason why there are still gamblers who wanted to stay discreet and not willing to proceed once KYC has being ask to continue gambling.

Gamblers like this will be more willing to look for another site to play and stay hidden instead of submitting KYC.

And if we choose to submit our personal information then I'm afraid that it will also means that we're accepting the risk we could get if in case the site where our identities are submitted will be hacked. I'm also guilty of this because I also submitted my personal details for verification purposes and I'm just hoping that their wall are strong enough to prevent these hackers from going through. Online casinos are one of the main targets of these hackers because the information and details they can get comes with an expensive price in the black market.

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July 13, 2022, 10:44:11 PM
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It is not just about the danger of having identities stolen when websites get hacked.... it is also about the danger about people sending their ID to front websites, those types of websites that are deemed to be genuine but their whole premise is to gather as much information as possible from gullible members that sign up to their services. That information (ID) will then be sold on to other criminal gangs for nefarious purposes.

And if we choose to submit our personal information then I'm afraid that it will also means that we're accepting the risk we could get if in case the site where our identities are submitted will be hacked. I'm also guilty of this because I also submitted my personal details for verification purposes and I'm just hoping that their wall are strong enough to prevent these hackers from going through. Online casinos are one of the main targets of these hackers because the information and details they can get comes with an expensive price in the black market.

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July 13, 2022, 10:56:07 PM
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It is not just about the danger of having identities stolen when websites get hacked.... it is also about the danger about people sending their ID to front websites, those types of websites that are deemed to be genuine but their whole premise is to gather as much information as possible from gullible members that sign up to their services. That information (ID) will then be sold on to other criminal gangs for nefarious purposes.

And if we choose to submit our personal information then I'm afraid that it will also means that we're accepting the risk we could get if in case the site where our identities are submitted will be hacked. I'm also guilty of this because I also submitted my personal details for verification purposes and I'm just hoping that their wall are strong enough to prevent these hackers from going through. Online casinos are one of the main targets of these hackers because the information and details they can get comes with an expensive price in the black market.

The possibility of such situation is always there.
This is why you should only comply with KYC requirements that you think is necessary to do so.
Otherwise, stick to top and reputable gambling sites. As we don't know where our info will end up with.
Hackers will always do their job of screwing up sites. So it is also the job of the sites to update their security protocols.
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July 13, 2022, 11:07:38 PM
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chances are they will persist and be willing to do anything because of their previous belief they are already safe with the site. but this will certainly be a pros and cons later if the gambling platform enforces kyc. well at least 10% of active players will probably opt out first to consider having to do kyc.

I think if that time comes, other popular and reputable gambling sites are also having a mandatory KYC.

Therefore that 10% might stay and won't probably be out of that said site. Imagine that a site with the big name already enforced KYC means that the regulations on most crypto gambling sites are now strictly implemented. For me, it's not that really a big deal if things turned out like that since nothing we can do in the first place.

But as much as possible, the KYC should not be forced to be strict at crypto-gambling sites since the no-KYC is one of the big reasons why we choose to play here.
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July 13, 2022, 11:13:05 PM
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It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

First: Simply because they want privacy, especially in casinos that accept cryptocurrencies;
Second: Identity theft and user data, information nowadays is worth like gold;
Third: Illegality on the part of the player... either because the country where he resides prohibits gambling or because the player is a minor.
There are three reasons strong enough for someone to choose not to hand over their data.

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July 13, 2022, 11:16:24 PM
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I think if that time comes, other popular and reputable gambling sites are also having a mandatory KYC.

Therefore that 10% might stay and won't probably be out of that said site. Imagine that a site with the big name already enforced KYC means that the regulations on most crypto gambling sites are now strictly implemented.
The fact that many big casinos need KYC is not denied and this sometimes likely forces the users to do so. There are probably some considerations (or a must) to implement KYC for several certain importances.
I will think likely what happened to Binance right now, they used no KYC but they started to change the regulation and implement KYC for Binance. This may also happen to a certain casinos. ANd sadly, we may not have choice again besides doing the KYC if we have been familiar, comfortable, and enjoy enough gambling on certain casino platforms.
Actually, KYC itself is various, some may be too strict that also really need ourID photo and also our photo with the ID live video, but some may onlygive certai n email or ther data input.

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July 14, 2022, 06:36:16 AM
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The fact that many big casinos need KYC is not denied and this sometimes likely forces the users to do so. There are probably some considerations (or a must) to implement KYC for several certain importances.
I will think likely what happened to Binance right now, they used no KYC but they started to change the regulation and implement KYC for Binance. This may also happen to a certain casinos. ANd sadly, we may not have choice again besides doing the KYC if we have been familiar, comfortable, and enjoy enough gambling on certain casino platforms.
Actually, KYC itself is various, some may be too strict that also really need ourID photo and also our photo with the ID live video, but some may onlygive certai n email or ther data input.
The big casino also puts a limit on what a gambler can do if the gambler doesn't want to do KYC and the gambler actually realizes that.
But unfortunately, due to the desire to win more winning money, the gamblers keep playing and depositing more money.
I also don't know about Binance but many traders have done KYC to be able to continue trading there.
Let's hope nothing bad happens to Binance in the future.

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July 14, 2022, 04:09:10 PM
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I think if that time comes, other popular and reputable gambling sites are also having a mandatory KYC.

Therefore that 10% might stay and won't probably be out of that said site. Imagine that a site with the big name already enforced KYC means that the regulations on most crypto gambling sites are now strictly implemented.
The fact that many big casinos need KYC is not denied and this sometimes likely forces the users to do so. There are probably some considerations (or a must) to implement KYC for several certain importances.
I will think likely what happened to Binance right now, they used no KYC but they started to change the regulation and implement KYC for Binance. This may also happen to a certain casinos. ANd sadly, we may not have choice again besides doing the KYC if we have been familiar, comfortable, and enjoy enough gambling on certain casino platforms.
Actually, KYC itself is various, some may be too strict that also really need ourID photo and also our photo with the ID live video, but some may onlygive certai n email or ther data input.
What I think it happens is that when a business is small they can get away with not asking for your personal information as they know there is no one that is observing their every movement.

But once they reach a certain size the governments and their different agencies begin to put their attention on them then they cannot get away with that behavior anymore, and they have no choice but to implement harsher and more strict policies regarding KYC.
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July 14, 2022, 08:39:17 PM
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chances are they will persist and be willing to do anything because of their previous belief they are already safe with the site. but this will certainly be a pros and cons later if the gambling platform enforces kyc. well at least 10% of active players will probably opt out first to consider having to do kyc.

I think if that time comes, other popular and reputable gambling sites are also having a mandatory KYC.

Therefore that 10% might stay and won't probably be out of that said site. Imagine that a site with the big name already enforced KYC means that the regulations on most crypto gambling sites are now strictly implemented. For me, it's not that really a big deal if things turned out like that since nothing we can do in the first place.

But as much as possible, the KYC should not be forced to be strict at crypto-gambling sites since the no-KYC is one of the big reasons why we choose to play here.

Certainly that is the same reason why we chose to play at these sites but I'm afraid that sooner, the authorities will put more pressure into these sites to enforce and implement strict KYC even before we decide to withdraw out funds. I can see that these sites will start to ask our information up front while we are trying to register on their platform.
If that will be the case, then for sure there will be lots of gamblers who will opt to the most trusted and reputable sites.

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Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.
This one of the major issues gamblers are facing that are making the experience ones to avoid KYC gambling sites. When you win big, most gambling platforms would want to know your identity by asking your to submit your identity or loss getting paid. I don't know why this is done always but there should be an end to this. Cryptocurrency gambling should be decentralized and platforms should stop asking us of our identity before we make withdrawals which is not encouraging to me.

Many casinos take advantage of asking kyc, as this gives them a chance to easily take away the player's winning money. Crypto users always try to avoid kyc and hide their identity.
There are many players who are on the casino's list of banned countries because they can't do kyc, so they can't withdraw their winning money. Crypto casinos should be decentralised, but whether that will happen or not may be seen in the coming days.

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July 14, 2022, 09:50:42 PM
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Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.
This one of the major issues gamblers are facing that are making the experience ones to avoid KYC gambling sites. When you win big, most gambling platforms would want to know your identity by asking your to submit your identity or loss getting paid. I don't know why this is done always but there should be an end to this. Cryptocurrency gambling should be decentralized and platforms should stop asking us of our identity before we make withdrawals which is not encouraging to me.

Many casinos take advantage of asking kyc, as this gives them a chance to easily take away the player's winning money. Crypto users always try to avoid kyc and hide their identity.
There are many players who are on the casino's list of banned countries because they can't do kyc, so they can't withdraw their winning money. Crypto casinos should be decentralised, but whether that will happen or not may be seen in the coming days.

Unfortunately that is what we're facing now, we choose to play in them because of the anonymity they can bring but these days, it's already a different story as most casinos now are asking us for details to approve the withdrawal of our winnings. I agree, yes, casinos are just obeying and implementing the orders of the authorities but these platforms that are implementing it cannot certainly deny that they are also taking advantage of these KYC's.
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July 14, 2022, 10:30:31 PM
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it's already a different story as most casinos now are asking us for details to approve the withdrawal of our winnings.

Is this a crypto-casino you are referring to?

I don't know that something like that exists nowadays. Do you mean for every withdrawal? What I know is that it's just applied for big winnings but we are not talking about $1,000 winnings should be subject right away to KYC. It's been always on the terms that big winnings might require KYC but we don't know what amount is considered big winnings. Maybe starting from $10,000? $15,000? We don't know.

May we know what crypto-casinos are asking for our details to approve our withdrawal?
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July 14, 2022, 11:37:07 PM
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May we know what crypto-casinos are asking for our details to approve our withdrawal?
^ Does not important to know them, we know that most of them are those casinos that asked for KYC verifications for their users which is very frustrating even though we have submitted KYC upon creation of our account but if we will win a big amount they will ask again. This is the reason why we should avoid a KYC gambling casino, we have a lot here a KYC casino but I prefer to use a non-KYC casino because I know they will not ask for any personal data once you will win a big amount.
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July 14, 2022, 11:45:03 PM
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May we know what crypto-casinos are asking for our details to approve our withdrawal?
^ Does not important to know them, we know that most of them are those casinos that asked for KYC verifications for their users which is very frustrating even though we have submitted KYC upon creation of our account but if we will win a big amount they will ask again. This is the reason why we should avoid a KYC gambling casino, we have a lot here a KYC casino but I prefer to use a non-KYC casino because I know they will not ask for any personal data once you will win a big amount.
If we do tend to read up every terms and conditions of all cryptocurrency gambling sites or platforms at this moment then we would always be stated that those casinos does anytime have the right for asking for some verification or KYC if they do saw some problems towards our problem behavior which means that there's always a risk for KYC but of course if you arent doing something stupid or shady then i dont see for you to
be that to worried about such rules and regulation.Here on crypto space were are really that mindful or being much preferred about anonymity and the safety of our identity which means that if we do see
a platform which doesnt ask out for some verification then this is where people do really sticks out and avoid it as much as they could.

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They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents

This situation is impossible in established and trusted casinos. The KYC process is performed by a trusted third party, and the gambling site itself can't steal your personal details. But, of course, scammers are doing it all the time. Do not register on shady platforms.


You are right, scammers will do everything in their power, a simple KYC is not good for one of these beings, for this reason is that sometimes we have to be careful with casinos that are recently launched, we do not know anything about their security, how they handle it because they are relatively new, and this means that problems of very bad taste can be added, both for the players and for the casino in general. Even when the casino is new and managed by a well-known campaign manager, you must be very careful and very measured when playing, because it may be that a whole scenario has been set up where the main potential is the welcome bonuses and in the end it is not possible. comply, as has recently happened with one casino in particular.

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They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents

This situation is impossible in established and trusted casinos. The KYC process is performed by a trusted third party, and the gambling site itself can't steal your personal details. But, of course, scammers are doing it all the time. Do not register on shady platforms.


You are right, scammers will do everything in their power, a simple KYC is not good for one of these beings, for this reason is that sometimes we have to be careful with casinos that are recently launched, we do not know anything about their security, how they handle it because they are relatively new, and this means that problems of very bad taste can be added, both for the players and for the casino in general. Even when the casino is new and managed by a well-known campaign manager, you must be very careful and very measured when playing, because it may be that a whole scenario has been set up where the main potential is the welcome bonuses and in the end it is not possible. comply, as has recently happened with one casino in particular.

I think the security system in gambling places can be implemented in several layers, maybe you can apply KYC such as email and then a phone number and the last KYC for those who have transactions or balances above the limits set by the gambling place management. Because so far when people send their data to gambling places it will go to the database server that they have prepared to accommodate all the data along with photos and it can be used for something that the owner of the data does not know, so stay alert wherever you are.

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They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents

This situation is impossible in established and trusted casinos. The KYC process is performed by a trusted third party, and the gambling site itself can't steal your personal details. But, of course, scammers are doing it all the time. Do not register on shady platforms.

You are right, scammers will do everything in their power, a simple KYC is not good for one of these beings, for this reason is that sometimes we have to be careful with casinos that are recently launched, we do not know anything about their security, how they handle it because they are relatively new, and this means that problems of very bad taste can be added, both for the players and for the casino in general. Even when the casino is new and managed by a well-known campaign manager, you must be very careful and very measured when playing, because it may be that a whole scenario has been set up where the main potential is the welcome bonuses and in the end it is not possible. comply, as has recently happened with one casino in particular.
KYC will not always be safe, the risk of being misused is very large, especially on a gambling site that has just been launched. I will definitely go straight away from gambling sites that require KYC even though their site is still very new, which means they only want users' personal data. personal data is important and can also be money (for scammers) so don't carelessly provide information about personal data.

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July 15, 2022, 04:55:26 AM
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It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?
all of the given reason are valid , either they dont trust the casino as selling our details to 3rd party is indeed happening and then will be abused for so many uses.

some it is Illegal in their region or religion so not giving KYC for this matter.

but I myself definitely played in KYC related site as it is more safer than those who not need LYC.

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But there are some services you will not access without KYC, that is why most centralized platforms are using KYC to nail down they customers, take binance for example. Nobody can access the exchange without going through the KYC process.
Binance is asking KYC completely and you can only withdraw to them if you have not completed the verification. The casinos are different, they'll ask when they are not satisfied and would like to verify their user based on the volume of the transaction for withdrawal and how huge it is.
Because they don't want them to be used as gateway for mixing coins and the other casinos have been aware of that.

the weirdest part about it is that:

1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

You know Sir, you're right about what you said, that's true. Sometimes, you can laugh and just shake our heads at that kind of system they have, the one who is good at receiving the money to be put in, especially if it is a large amount. Then they also don't care if a gambler loses a lot, then it becomes impossible it's fair to withdraw a large amount of a gambler's winnings on their casino platform, as if they don't want you to withdraw a large amount of money that you want as a gambler so they suddenly doubt one of their cleints.

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