Kazuto Ioka vs Donnie Nietes II

[Fredomago]

I believe Ioka has more world title fight experience than Nietes.

I don't know about this but I like to believe that Nietes would not lose in this fight if he is not old, at his age now, I think Ioka will bounce back and beat him. Losing a split decision means the fight is very competitive, so now Kazuto Ioka has the edge due to his age and he is more active than Nietes I think.

Yes. I also think that prime Nietes will beat a prime Ioka. Both are the same 4 division champions and are future Hall of Famers. They nearly have the same styles too. They're both smart, technical, patient, and armed with excellent jabs. I just believe that prime Nietes is just slightly better.

Back to reality. Ioka has a clear edge in this coming rematch. I don't think Nietes has the power to knockout Ioka and his age makes the mission becoming nearly impossible.

Knocking Ioka's is really a tough job since Nietes even in his prime is known for this kind of power punch, he beats his opponents with patience and good timings, with that statement of yours, I always say that Nietes is better in terms of prime era. But likewise, with his age and with crowd advantage of Ioka, it's more on mind games and how Nietes can stand until the last round and see if he will win with the judges' decisions.

[harizen]

Nevertheless, this is a very experienced boxer.  He knows a lot of clever boxing tricks that can lead him to victory.  At the same time, he lacks aggressiveness and pressure.  His punches don't lead to a knockout.  They are not accurate or powerful enough.

I will just bet that the good and long experience of Nietes will beat the strategy of the opponent.

Nietes already knows what's lacking for him now compare to us. He already knows his disadvantages and for sure already understands that his body might not cooperate and catch up with him wherever he wants. Just come to think of it, he knows already the experience of fighting Ioka and probably watching some mix tapes on how Ioka was changed and improved since their last fight where Nietes won.

Since there's no way I will support Ioka, I like to believe that at some point Nietes has some advantages in technical terms. Let's wait and see if Nietes' age is really a hindrance in this fight or as the famous quote in the Philippines, only Carabaos aged lol.

[Yaunfitda]

I believe Ioka has more world title fight experience than Nietes.

I don't know about this but I like to believe that Nietes would not lose in this fight if he is not old, at his age now, I think Ioka will bounce back and beat him. Losing a split decision means the fight is very competitive, so now Kazuto Ioka has the edge due to his age and he is more active than Nietes I think.

Yes. I also think that prime Nietes will beat a prime Ioka. Both are the same 4 division champions and are future Hall of Famers. They nearly have the same styles too. They're both smart, technical, patient, and armed with excellent jabs. I just believe that prime Nietes is just slightly better.

Back to reality. Ioka has a clear edge in this coming rematch. I don't think Nietes has the power to knockout Ioka and his age makes the mission becoming nearly impossible.

Knocking Ioka's is really a tough job since Nietes even in his prime is known for this kind of power punch, he beats his opponents with patience and good timings, with that statement of yours, I always say that Nietes is better in terms of prime era. But likewise, with his age and with crowd advantage of Ioka, it's more on mind games and how Nietes can stand until the last round and see if he will win with the judges' decisions.

Yes, Nietes is not known to have a knockout power, but he made it up with this brilliant fighting with being a technician and putting on a clinic in every fight during his prime.

But we will see if he still has it, of course by his age, he is no longer in his prime. But maybe he can still perform as expected and beat Ioka. It might be a slim chance, but with no Filipino champion right now, maybe that will motivate him to and give everything for his country.

[agustina2]

But we will see if he still has it, of course by his age, he is no longer in his prime. But maybe he can still perform as expected and beat Ioka. It might be a slim chance, but with no Filipino champion right now, maybe that will motivate him to and give everything for his country.

Thinking the same. Nietes carry a lot of responsibility on his shoulder now especially since we don't have any world champion now. He will revenge Magsayo's loss but on the way thru claiming another world title for the Phillipines. But this time, it's really hard to do it as he's now at the retirement point of his career and Ioka will fight him in front of his Japanese supporters.

I hope Nietes will upset Ioka on his home and bring the Philippines again to the list of having a world champion.

[bisdak40]

But we will see if he still has it, of course by his age, he is no longer in his prime. But maybe he can still perform as expected and beat Ioka. It might be a slim chance, but with no Filipino champion right now, maybe that will motivate him to and give everything for his country.

Thinking the same. Nietes carry a lot of responsibility on his shoulder now especially since we don't have any world champion now. He will revenge Magsayo's loss but on the way thru claiming another world title for the Phillipines. But this time, it's really hard to do it as he's now at the retirement point of his career and Ioka will fight him in front of his Japanese supporters.

I hope Nietes will upset Ioka on his home and bring the Philippines again to the list of having a world champion.

Let's just cross our fingers and hope for the best for Nietes in his fight tomorrow. That's one tough hill to climb but like I've said in my previous post when Nietes' back is on the wall and everybody thinks that he would lose, he would rise to the occasion and surprise everyone many times and hope tomorrow he will deliver one more time, it would be the sweetest not only for him but to all the Filipino fans of this sweet science.

Odds are already out but only the ML but nevertheless it is still an attractive one if we are for Nietes.

[goldkingcoiner]

Next to Nietes and Manny Pacquiao as well as Donaire, these are the only three boxers from the Philippines to have won world titles in four divisions. I am enthusiastically cheering for Donnie Nietes as the winner here.

But then again Nietes has been out of the ring for 2019 and 2020 and his age is no secret. I really do wonder if he has any energy left in him to beat Kazuto as he currently is.

The age difference is only 7 years but that might be the leading factor in what is to come. I am hoping that Donnie Nietes does not disappoint, although history shows that he never has, just yet.

Either way, excited for the fight!

[inthelongrun]

Few more hours before they fight. In our poll, we got Nietes 68.2% compared to Ioka's 27.3% and 4.5% had it a draw. So it seems that many of you guys answered it based on your hearts?

I would love Nietes to win here but honestly, I voted for Ioka. Because Nietes based on his previous fights is not the same fighter that went undefeated in many title fights in 4 divisions. I didn't bet this time because, of course, I want Nietes to prove me wrong. 

[YuginKadoya]

Thinking the same. Nietes carry a lot of responsibility on his shoulder now especially since we don't have any world champion now. He will revenge Magsayo's loss but on the way thru claiming another world title for the Phillipines. But this time, it's really hard to do it as he's now at the retirement point of his career and Ioka will fight him in front of his Japanese supporters.

I hope Nietes will upset Ioka on his home and bring the Philippines again to the list of having a world champion.

Donnie Nietes is looking for a knockout win, can he really do it, right now he is the only one with a title belt, and yes that is a big responsibility, after his fight with Kazuto Ioka Nietes just got 2 more fights he won against Pablo Carillo, and a draw against Norbelto Jimenez, while Kazuto Ioka has 5 matches after their fight and all are a victory for Ioka, I really think Ioka is a different fighter now than the Ioka he last fought back in 2018, and Nietes is on the brink of getting a retirement, sad to say but all those 5 opponent that Ioka fought only 1 was a push over but the preparation he just got in facing Nietes again is kind of remarkable,

For me, this is going to be a hard fight for Donnie Nietes, after their fight, Kazuto Ioka is more active than Nietes, I hate to say this but this is likely a hard fight for Donnie Nietes, I will not put a bet for this fight but I really like Nietes to win this fight but my thought is this is a 50/50 for me

Let's just cross our fingers and hope for the best for Nietes in his fight tomorrow. That's one tough hill to climb but like I've said in my previous post when Nietes' back is on the wall and everybody thinks that he would lose, he would rise to the occasion and surprise everyone many times and hope tomorrow he will deliver one more time, it would be the sweetest not only for him but to all the Filipino fans of this sweet science.

Odds are already out but only the ML but nevertheless it is still an attractive one if we are for Nietes.

That Odd could be accurate, and I don't want to see Nietes the one to lose here, but I am seeing this is a hard fight for him, I really think Kazuto Ioka is not the same fighter since their last fight back in 2018, But in his words, there might be a possibility that Donnie "Ahas" Nietes might still win this fight, and he really needs to win this fight he is the only champion that we have right now,

[carlisle1]

But we will see if he still has it, of course by his age, he is no longer in his prime. But maybe he can still perform as expected and beat Ioka. It might be a slim chance, but with no Filipino champion right now, maybe that will motivate him to and give everything for his country.

Thinking the same. Nietes carry a lot of responsibility on his shoulder now especially since we don't have any world champion now. He will revenge Magsayo's loss but on the way thru claiming another world title for the Phillipines. But this time, it's really hard to do it as he's now at the retirement point of his career and Ioka will fight him in front of his Japanese supporters.

I hope Nietes will upset Ioka on his home and bring the Philippines again to the list of having a world champion.

Let's just cross our fingers and hope for the best for Nietes in his fight tomorrow. That's one tough hill to climb but like I've said in my previous post when Nietes' back is on the wall and everybody thinks that he would lose, he would rise to the occasion and surprise everyone many times and hope tomorrow he will deliver one more time, it would be the sweetest not only for him but to all the Filipino fans of this sweet science.

Odds are already out but only the ML but nevertheless it is still an attractive one if we are for Nietes.

The odd for Nietes is now @ 4.90 ML. That's very tempting if you can spare some amount. He already beat him before

and with a good scout with how Ioka fights previously, the chance for Nietes to win is still doable. It's a matter of doing everything

he can to take Ioka again, though for sure there are lots of changes as the young fighter already made his way to this level

and he also has a good scout to analyze how he can beat Nietes in his own crowd.

[Vaculin]

But we will see if he still has it, of course by his age, he is no longer in his prime. But maybe he can still perform as expected and beat Ioka. It might be a slim chance, but with no Filipino champion right now, maybe that will motivate him to and give everything for his country.

Thinking the same. Nietes carry a lot of responsibility on his shoulder now especially since we don't have any world champion now. He will revenge Magsayo's loss but on the way thru claiming another world title for the Phillipines. But this time, it's really hard to do it as he's now at the retirement point of his career and Ioka will fight him in front of his Japanese supporters.

I hope Nietes will upset Ioka on his home and bring the Philippines again to the list of having a world champion.

Let's just cross our fingers and hope for the best for Nietes in his fight tomorrow. That's one tough hill to climb but like I've said in my previous post when Nietes' back is on the wall and everybody thinks that he would lose, he would rise to the occasion and surprise everyone many times and hope tomorrow he will deliver one more time, it would be the sweetest not only for him but to all the Filipino fans of this sweet science.

Odds are already out but only the ML but nevertheless it is still an attractive one if we are for Nietes.

The odd for Nietes is now @ 4.90 ML. That's very tempting if you can spare some amount. He already beat him before

and with a good scout with how Ioka fights previously, the chance for Nietes to win is still doable. It's a matter of doing everything

he can to take Ioka again, though for sure there are lots of changes as the young fighter already made his way to this level

and he also has a good scout to analyze how he can beat Nietes in his own crowd.

What is happening here? I thought Nietes have won their previous fight, so he should not be underestimated like that.

Well, I'm tempted already, I'm taking the ML as I'm sure Nietes will give a fight, and who knows he might win again.
Home court advantage, it doesn't matter to me.

[btc_angela]

Is the fight today? I'm trying to look at the results and so far I can't find any.

I wanted for Nietes to win this one, at least restored order in boxing for Filipinos as one by one the champion has lost their belt, recently, Magsayo on a very tough match against Vargas.

I'll probably look if there is someone in Facebook that might share this fight for free. 

[coin-investor]

Is the fight today? I'm trying to look at the results and so far I can't find any.

I wanted for Nietes to win this one, at least restored order in boxing for Filipinos as one by one the champion has lost their belt, recently, Magsayo on a very tough match against Vargas.

I'll probably look if there is someone in Facebook that might share this fight for free.  

There are three accounts sharing the live feed and this is one of them the commentators are all Japanese, so you are left on your own to analyze the fight if you don't understand Japanese, so far the fight is dead even  no one has a disadvantage, they are still sizing each other.

https://www.facebook.com/105609045521138/videos/797843414914891

[bisdak40]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

[Kasabus]

Is the fight today? I'm trying to look at the results and so far I can't find any.

I wanted for Nietes to win this one, at least restored order in boxing for Filipinos as one by one the champion has lost their belt, recently, Magsayo on a very tough match against Vargas.

I'll probably look if there is someone in Facebook that might share this fight for free.  

There are three accounts sharing the live feed and this is one of them the commentators are all Japanese, so you are left on your own to analyze the fight if you don't understand Japanese, so far the fight is dead even  no one has a disadvantage, they are still sizing each other.

https://www.facebook.com/105609045521138/videos/797843414914891

Thanks for the link, seems like Nietes has lost his aggressiveness already, there's no KO from this fight, and once it will go to the judges scorecards, we already know who is the winner, not biased judgement but it's very obvious that Kazuto Ioka is the aggressor in this fight.

[Johnyz]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

[Cling18]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

This year has been really tough for Filipino boxers. I guess it isn't their lucky year. It was really a back to back lost which is heartbreaking. I thought Nieter would win this fight so there will be at least one Filipino to raise their flag in the boxing ring again. I hope that there will still be the hope of new winning for Filipinos in the next matches.

[Fredomago]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

We need to have another sets of trained fighters, our legends already falls and they can retire their gloves now, I'm speaking in regard to both Nietes and Donaire, they can follow the lead of Pacman they all represent our country with glory and there's nothing to ask from them, they've tried all the best and time for them to rest and enjoy a decent and simpler life.

Though in terms of Magsayo and all those young active fighters, they still have their time to regain and make our country proud again.

Maybe the year is not for the PH fighters, there is always a good time to improve and to win another title!

[YuginKadoya]

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

It's clear that Kazuto Ioka is not slacking off when he lost to Donnie Nietes, he has 5 good fights but Donnie Nietes has only 2 fights 1 were a draw so the taken experience was really valid for Ioka, Nietes hasn't had enough fight, and forcing himself in a knockout win is a bad thing aswell, it really backfires on him, this is I don't like it when I was right, and for this fight, I can really feel a bad thing might happen, Nietes from their 1st fight is having a hard time and Kazuto Ioka is not really a push over, and for me Donnie Nietes after so many years in boxing I really think this is the time he can retire if he can not continue anymore,

This year has been really tough for Filipino boxers. I guess it isn't their lucky year. It was really a back to back lost which is heartbreaking. I thought Nieter would win this fight so there will be at least one Filipino to raise their flag in the boxing ring again. I hope that there will still be the hope of new winning for Filipinos in the next matches.

It is not the end of the world, I really think Filipinos are going to get back again, they only need to push further, I really think it is just a coincidence that back-to-back belts were taken from a Filipino boxer, for losing inside the ring, getting stripped of the belt, I really think there is a reason to this, and this is just a start of a new chapter I think there will be a time when a boxer will rise and get back the flag on the top of the sports again, I am sure of that,

We need to have another sets of trained fighters, our legends already falls and they can retire their gloves now, I'm speaking in regard to both Nietes and Donaire, they can follow the lead of Pacman they all represent our country with glory and there's nothing to ask from them, they've tried all the best and time for them to rest and enjoy a decent and simpler life.

Though in terms of Magsayo and all those young active fighters, they still have their time to regain and make our country proud again.

Maybe the year is not for the PH fighters, there is always a good time to improve and to win another title!

I agree, I really think Nietes needs to retire and call it over, but if he knows in himself that he can still fight then I really respect that, but for me enough is enough I think Donnie Nietes has shown enough he really needs to put his gloves down and just teach the younger generation that is willing to be like the champions, because even though this looks like over for the Legends a new generation of a champion can surely emerge,

And for Mark Magsayo, he needs to pursue again and trained even harder, and for John Riel Casimero, I am really disappointed

[goaldigger]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

This year has been really tough for Filipino boxers. I guess it isn't their lucky year. It was really a back to back lost which is heartbreaking. I thought Nieter would win this fight so there will be at least one Filipino to raise their flag in the boxing ring again. I hope that there will still be the hope of new winning for Filipinos in the next matches.

Not a good year, and maybe its time now to look for a younger boxer and challenge the world boxing again. Nietes still did a great job though, we saw him still fighting despite of the big lead of Ioka. Filipino boxer should not be demotivated, they should rise again. This might be the last fight of Nietes according to the rumors, but hopefully not true.

[robelneo]

First half of the fight is over and if the trend continues, Nietes will lose this one. Ioka was too active throwing punches though no significant damage to Nietes but i think the former will get points from that on the judges. Hope Nietes will adjust and not abandon his jab.

Another loss for a Filipino boxer, its a clear statement that Ioka dominates the match and Nietes was experienced a hard time.
Very unfortunate to have back to back loss for a Filipino boxer, it looks like Nietes is already over. Its good though that Nietes was able to last until the final round, no more world champion and heart break loss for a Filipino boxer, not a good year for us.

This year has been really tough for Filipino boxers. I guess it isn't their lucky year. It was really a back to back lost which is heartbreaking. I thought Nieter would win this fight so there will be at least one Filipino to raise their flag in the boxing ring again. I hope that there will still be the hope of new winning for Filipinos in the next matches.

Not a good year, and maybe its time now to look for a younger boxer and challenge the world boxing again. Nietes still did a great job though, we saw him still fighting despite of the big lead of Ioka. Filipino boxer should not be demotivated, they should rise again. This might be the last fight of Nietes according to the rumors, but hopefully not true.

Nietes is already 40 years old he should retire he has done a lot in Philippine boxing its time for him to enjoy his retirement, this is one of the times that no Pinoy boxing world champion, but still Pinoys are great boxers and will always contention to
 any weight category I'm sure many new boxers will rise, its not the end of Pinoy boxing after Pacquiao retires, right now the Philippine's big ace is none other than Casimero, I hope he takes up the challenge to put another Pinoy boxing world champion again and takes his career seriously.