POKER

[LUCKMCFLY]

Playing poker is quite simple if you are not pretending to smth elevated, but to become professional, not only skills matter but also personal characteristics, and this is very hard to teach

I think everything is based on your techniques that you use when you are playing to receive your opponents so they will not be able to understand your present mood. Professional poker players have different strategies they can put in place to confuse there opponents not to be able to read there mind. Experience also matters a lot so we have to know that experience is the best teacher.

^ That is bluffing.
Bluffing sometimes made your lucky day but not all the time, if you have opponents that have the same technique used, it will probably not work because both of you pretending about the emotion. But I don't know how it will work in online poker games if your opponent is online, there is no bluffing and your luck depend on the cards that you get. I don't know how effective poker game online courses are right while it is free over the internet, I even watch a different tutorial on Youtube and try my skills using an app that is playing poker for free.

Not only bluffing. Your opponent can analyze your bets and try to understand your hand. And can change strategy to confuse him. And in online poker we have some other rules - we don`t see the opponent, we can`t read his emotions. But i agree that there free courses and it`s enough for the most players.

I think that one of the strategies of poker is to determine how people play, usually a person will always have a model of plays or a pattern that they always follow, and that can be quickly determined by at least one machine in a casino, but for people who play actively at a game table requires a little more time, when it comes to playing physically it is easier because of their gestures, but when it is in a digital game way it is more difficult, I think the most easy to see is when bets are made and some check and some don't, I think that's a way that you can take into account to determine if you can get a person's style of play, but of course it's not entirely reliable .

I don't know how else OP can make them believe in their good faith, it's difficult, I know that marketing within the forum is something that can be very profitable but you have to know how to do it, the people in the forum are not stupid at all.

If his intention are really clear on selling those poker courses, he should post all the details about it. Based on his previous post, he will only entertain members that are interested via private message which I think seems fishy. It will even help him lessen some time catering to each PMs if he post the details. I've also been wanting to learn poker recently and his post got my attention but how he acts is not appropriate if he really is a legit seller.

Without a doubt, this is something not to trust, I really would not buy a course like this, it is very likely that they would rather wait to see who can buy it and give a review, but throughout the thread we have not seen anything, and for a reason, I'm not saying that OP wants to cheat, but it's better to wait until everything is clarified, but in my personal opinion and seeing that many people are somewhat new to this aspect, they shouldn't rush, besides, poker is not so by reading certain indications you will be invincible, that takes a long time, you need experience when playing and a series of things that are not said in courses or similar.

[mak013]

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I think that one of the strategies of poker is to determine how people play, usually a person will always have a model of plays or a pattern that they always follow, and that can be quickly determined by at least one machine in a casino, but for people who play actively at a game table requires a little more time, when it comes to playing physically it is easier because of their gestures, but when it is in a digital game way it is more difficult, I think the most easy to see is when bets are made and some check and some don't, I think that's a way that you can take into account to determine if you can get a person's style of play, but of course it's not entirely reliable .

I don`t think that playing in the internet easier than playing in offline casino. This is just different types of game. In online poker you don`t see the opponent, but the opponent doesn`t see you. That`s why you can concentrate on the game. And you don`t need to read the opponent, you spend all your time at cards. I think that it can be a problem to become offline player if you played only online before.

[Betwrong]

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^ That is bluffing.
Bluffing sometimes made your lucky day but not all the time, if you have opponents that have the same technique used, it will probably not work because both of you pretending about the emotion. But I don't know how it will work in online poker games if your opponent is online, there is no bluffing and your luck depend on the cards that you get. I don't know how effective poker game online courses are right while it is free over the internet, I even watch a different tutorial on Youtube and try my skills using an app that is playing poker for free.

I disagree that in online poker you can't bluff, and your game depends only on the cards that you get. Far from it. In fact, in online poker you can do all the things you do in real life games, and that's why the same people who are doing good in live games are doing good in online poker as well.

My theory is that your face expression is not that important. What's important is the time you take before the action and the size of your bet. 

[iv4n]

I don't know how else OP can make them believe in their good faith, it's difficult, I know that marketing within the forum is something that can be very profitable but you have to know how to do it, the people in the forum are not stupid at all.

If his intention are really clear on selling those poker courses, he should post all the details about it. Based on his previous post, he will only entertain members that are interested via private message which I think seems fishy. It will even help him lessen some time catering to each PMs if he post the details. I've also been wanting to learn poker recently and his post got my attention but how he acts is not appropriate if he really is a legit seller.

You don't need marketing for this, you need a well-known poker name! Who will buy a poker course from an anonymous player? He should provide his accomplishments first if there are any! Why would we believe that his lessons are better than watching some players on youtube for free?

It's easy to learn to play poker. A few tricks on how to be good at predicting what cards other people have, do you have the patience to wait for your hands, how to recognize and call some bluff, and much other stuff can be found around the internet for free. But whether you are talented or not is something you will see when you start playing! A poker course can be good, but only if comes from some professional player with years (decades) playing poker.

[Betwrong]

~ Why would we believe that his lessons are better than watching some players on youtube for free?
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Watching some of the best contemporary poker players on YouTube is the best way to learn how to play poker, imo. Only don't watch games older than 3-4 years because the style can be outdated. Daniel Negreanu, for example, is not bluffing these days as he used to in the past. He's playing more cautiously now, and it pays off for him, while people following his older style are losing in general, and keep wondering why. The answer is, different times have different strategies that are successful.

[ChiNgadOr]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

are you not sure that this thing is the system of scamming because if you did is something that somebody will realise he's supposed to have a platform that you can go in and the everybody can access it than p.m. so that whoever that is interested will actually see everything that is happening so this particular system of yours you are coming with I think is a method of scamming people maybe you might not come up with the payment idea but later and then he will inform them to give you a payment that is what I'm exercising now

I think he's trying to offer free poker course for free and if it's truly, then anybody that is interested can easily jump on it and grab the opportunity if op is not trying to deceive us here. That  will be appreciated for those who will go for it but I think there is a motives behind this because it looks like he is trying to bring something in apart from the poker course.
If he got the course pdf through paid system then it will be wrong for him to teach other by asking for fund from them. The main source of the poker course might not be from him but if he tries to sell it then it will be a copy write violation attempt.

[ethereumhunter]

I think that one of the strategies of poker is to determine how people play, usually a person will always have a model of plays or a pattern that they always follow, and that can be quickly determined by at least one machine in a casino, but for people who play actively at a game table requires a little more time, when it comes to playing physically it is easier because of their gestures, but when it is in a digital game way it is more difficult, I think the most easy to see is when bets are made and some check and some don't, I think that's a way that you can take into account to determine if you can get a person's style of play, but of course it's not entirely reliable .

I don`t think that playing in the internet easier than playing in offline casino. This is just different types of game. In online poker you don`t see the opponent, but the opponent doesn`t see you. That`s why you can concentrate on the game. And you don`t need to read the opponent, you spend all your time at cards. I think that it can be a problem to become offline player if you played only online before.

Since we can't see the opponent's expression, we can only guess what he will do and how he anticipates it. Maybe by looking at the number of bets he made or other things, it can be a clue for us to find out if he has good or bad cards. But still, it can't be a sign because he could be bullying his opponent without us knowing. Maybe instead of buying a poker lesson, it's better if we learn how to play poker ourselves so we don't have to spend money to buy it.

[Gozie51]

I think he's trying to offer free poker course for free and if it's truly, then anybody that is interested can easily jump on it and grab the opportunity if op is not trying to deceive us here. That  will be appreciated for those who will go for it but I think there is a motives behind this because it looks like he is trying to bring something in apart from the poker course.

In this time where you have the internet ready to assist you do anything you want, it is just with a seconds to get to follow some poker players on video and with that the possibility of scamming is out rather than the lesson op is offering that doesn't look like free in all aspects. What an interested person need to do is to  type in poker game on YouTube and all you are there. Learning poker is simple like you learn the cards, example the single card, pairs of same number, double pairs of two separate identical numbers, triple pairs etc.

[Rieeir]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

[worle1bm]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

Nobody would be willing to pay for some poker course from some newbie account as it could possibly be a scam attempt and we have seen these types of scams previously also so not interested in these.You need to build your trust on the forum if you are providing some services and then only you could able to get users otherwise it's really hard.

[mak013]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

Nobody would be willing to pay for some poker course from some newbie account as it could possibly be a scam attempt and we have seen these types of scams previously also so not interested in these.You need to build your trust on the forum if you are providing some services and then only you could able to get users otherwise it's really hard.

I think that the OP can give some proves private(but i don`t sure that it will be proves and not a scam try). It is to silly to try to scam in such a way. But the same time we saw so different scams that it is possible even such a try. Anyway i`m sure that such courses(even if it is true) can be useful only for pro-gamers and they know each other and can understand is it truth or not. For common poker player there are enough free courses.

[Viscore]

I am curious if OP has made much money already from these courses. I mean all about the sale if he has acquired some customers in here. I think your strategy isn't good as well. You're wanting an inquiry to email you after asking some questions. It's better if you've explained the details or at least given more details in your original post. Or, if someone really is interested, you should be the one asking them for their email for more information and you're the one to email them, not you. Just saying.

And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience. However, if you want to gain more customers, you should have post these courses here and at least give some details about it so that the people here will develop interest in it.

[samcrypto]

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

For you to recommend somebody to any body you will know the capacity of the person and the trust behind the stuff so that the person defraud the person you recommend to him it will be easier for you fight to ensure that redemption or victory and justice has come to pass. And this time you can not recommend a platform that's not good for somebody

It’s not good to trust someone who are just new here and claiming to be professional in something, I know Poker is very popular and with that, many are eager to learn how it works and how to make their own strategy, having a mentor might help but only trust who already have a good reputation here or else better to learn on your own. There’s a lot of ways to learn poker, it’s already available online you just need to look for a more trusted source. Again with the status of OP, i think it’s too risky to contact him.

[tabas]

It’s not good to trust someone who are just new here and claiming to be professional in something, I know Poker is very popular and with that, many are eager to learn how it works and how to make their own strategy, having a mentor might help but only trust who already have a good reputation here or else better to learn on your own. There’s a lot of ways to learn poker, it’s already available online you just need to look for a more trusted source. Again with the status of OP, i think it’s too risky to contact him.

There were many of them in the past that they're just came and then said that they're professional in the same things like playing professional poker, sports bettor and other gambling stuff.
But I've seen really a few of them that put their words for real and they've just came to the forum and seen that they can capitalize their career here. Due to the low rank, it's hard for them to be trusted but other than that, there's even more that are just playing around and telling they're professional but not in actual.

[Betwrong]

~And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience.

It can be true of some things, but not about poker. Yes, you could learn a lot from your own experience if you were someone playing 20 tables at ones, 10 hours per day for 20 years, but it would be much easier, and faster, to learn how to play from a pro.

However, if you want to gain more customers, you should have post these courses here and at least give some details about it so that the people here will develop interest in it.

It's actually a good advice. OP is promissing to "explain everything in detail" via PM, but it would be better to see at list some details here in this thread.

[Poker Player]

~And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience.

It can be true of some things, but not about poker. Yes, you could learn a lot from your own experience if you were someone playing 20 tables at ones, 10 hours per day for 20 years, but it would be much easier, and faster, to learn how to play from a pro.

Well, actually that is an old discussion and after having played for a long time and having read a lot in poker forums, I could assure that there is an equivalence according to which studying poker is equivalent to many hours of practice. So if you want to learn and advance the best thing you can do is to study and play.

In low levels, when you start it is not so important but when you go up levels, and more with how hard the tables are nowadays, there are players who spend more time studying than playing.

[ethereumhunter]

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

For you to recommend somebody to any body you will know the capacity of the person and the trust behind the stuff so that the person defraud the person you recommend to him it will be easier for you fight to ensure that redemption or victory and justice has come to pass. And this time you can not recommend a platform that's not good for somebody

We don't have to trust someone who comes and offers us something, in this case, poker lessons, because we can find those lessons on the internet. With the ease of accessing the internet, I believe we can learn from many sources that we can get for free and I think that is enough to get to know the game of poker. And it would be great if he could find someone around him who was good at playing poker to teach him to play so that he could get additional lessons on how to play poker. The lessons learned from the internet need to be put into practice and by getting additional lessons from someone close to him, he can practice what he gets from the internet.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There is a lot of money to be made with poker, that is something that I think is certain. Nevertheless, the level has increased enormously in width due to the large supply of online information and books that is available. I think a poker course is a good idea to learn something, but if you really want to get much better you will have to get a real coach to see if they can guide you individually, then you will progress by leaps and bounds. By the way, what makes this course so unique tat you have for sale?

I agree, still a lot of money to be made. But only those who are willing to put in the work will succeed. Poker courses are a good way to get started but if one wants to reach the highest level, coaching is a must. I don't have a course. I just sell second hand courses from renown coaches.

What happens is that you cannot fully trust it, as I have said before, the ideal thing would be that this site or what you sell could be sent to a reliable player and member of the forum so that he can test it, in a reliable way, and that that player and member give a good review of what your course is, yes, it may be a free course, but sometimes in any good business you have to risk something like that in order to be successful, this is just advice, because the a course really intrigues poker players who are always looking for new techniques, strategies and things to learn, knowledge can be vast and wide, always looking for more information.

Agreeing on this on having some vouch or free 1 course for any member or reputable ones who could actually give out feedbacks if the course is totally worth for the money or would really be just a waste of time.

Honestly, most of things or information could really be found on net which does mean that you wont really be needing to pay up some bucks or premium just to make yourself that knowledgeable on something.

You could really be on self learn and poker does seems not really that too complicated to understand.Also, building yourself on being a pro would actually be pertaining on actual
engagement or playing with other people which you would really be molding up your skills even more.Theories are good but experience is much always one step ahead.

Yes, in fact that is the main learning experience, but a person when he is a novice needs to know some things, tricks that can be taught in a course, perhaps to read movements or to detect when it is possibly a good moment to risk a lot of money in a hand or not, all these little details that are learned based on experience can be easily applied in a course.

I understand that a course does not say everything, but there are people who are very good at poker and who know when a course is good or not, and that is why you say, only those who are more expert due to experience are the ones who can give a review of the course.

~And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience.

It can be true of some things, but not about poker. Yes, you could learn a lot from your own experience if you were someone playing 20 tables at ones, 10 hours per day for 20 years, but it would be much easier, and faster, to learn how to play from a pro.

Well, actually that is an old discussion and after having played for a long time and having read a lot in poker forums, I could assure that there is an equivalence according to which studying poker is equivalent to many hours of practice. So if you want to learn and advance the best thing you can do is to study and play.

In low levels, when you start it is not so important but when you go up levels, and more with how hard the tables are nowadays, there are players who spend more time studying than playing.

If you're really interested in learning poker, you could do both things, study and play. It could be a quite long process of learning but you can also understand things easily if you will apply the things that you're learning through studying. You can't do poker perfectly for the first time but you can enjoy and be pro as you make it as a part of your habit.

There is nothing better than applying the knowledge learned in the games, because not only do you apply what you have learned, but you learn to have experiences and manage to combine more things together, of course, it must be taken into account that for poker it is not that there is a lot of theory, almost the same strategies will always be used, what changes is the way in which the player wants to approach the game, if a player wants to excel at any stage of the game he could do it, there is nothing that can stop him but his own personal strategy, the theory is there, but reality and the events that occur in the game are another thing.

[Adbitco]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

Why not outline the areas which you would you really focusing. Now from your title you said for sales and your post now saying is for free how do you intends to?. I will also suggest since you said is for free, why not post it here on this thread maybe for people interested to read it and use as a guideline on how to start playing poker.
It could be a great help instead saling the guideline.

You shouldn't be so harsh to a possible new member of the community unless what he is pushing is a guaranteed scam.
I don't know the OP but users interested could maybe offer to escrow their money, he may be willing to do that if he wants to make some business here.

Well you may not blame him for such an answers toward the OP. I have seen those who are only interested in fees from members and basically looks so suspicious, at least as new comer he should have contributed elsewhere and get involved with lots of discussions over here to seek other ideas from people around or possibly post this at the service section.

[danadc]

It’s not good to trust someone who are just new here and claiming to be professional in something, I know Poker is very popular and with that, many are eager to learn how it works and how to make their own strategy, having a mentor might help but only trust who already have a good reputation here or else better to learn on your own. There’s a lot of ways to learn poker, it’s already available online you just need to look for a more trusted source. Again with the status of OP, i think it’s too risky to contact him.

There were many of them in the past that they're just came and then said that they're professional in the same things like playing professional poker, sports bettor and other gambling stuff.
But I've seen really a few of them that put their words for real and they've just came to the forum and seen that they can capitalize their career here. Due to the low rank, it's hard for them to be trusted but other than that, there's even more that are just playing around and telling they're professional but not in actual.

I have doubts about some things, the first, how do you know when he is a professional player and when he is not? do they have to show some credentials? I think that a person is a professional when they have done enough tournaments in poker and that they have been in the first place or in the first places, but here everything seems to be different, many call themselves professionals based on their own criteria, and that is something that can be tested.

I have seen many tutorials on poker and for me there is no level that must be passed to become a professional, it is something that does not take much logic, but in gambling things move at a different pace and that is what I wanted to know.