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Bitcoin Core
Bitcoin Core: https://bitcoincore.org/en/download/

Download, verify the wallet, install it.
Create a new wallet
Default, the wallet will give you Bech32 receiving address.
If you want to create your Taproot receiving address (Bech32m), you must click on Receive tab.
In the third box for address type in Amount row, click on it to get a drop-down list, including the Bech32m (Taproot).
Choose this option, and click on "Create a new receiving address"
Congratulations, you have a Bech32m (Taproot receiving address).

Command line
Credit to darkv0rt3x
Code:
bitcoin-cli -named getnewaddress label=generic-p2tr address_type=bech32m

Bitcoin Knots
It is a combined Bitcoin node and wallet and a modified version of Bitcoin Core.
Credit to SFR10 with his information
Download: https://bitcoinknots.org/#download
Verify it (you should)
Click on Receive tab, choose Taproot (Bech32m), Request payment
You will get a Taproot wallet starts with bc1p


Sparrow wallet
Sparrow wallet: https://sparrowwallet.com/download/
Download, install it
Choose server type to connect your wallet to.
Create your wallet. You can choose Single Signature or Multi Signature in Policy Type.
In Script Type, click on a drop-down list and choose Taproot (P2TR)
Then choose (at bottom), one of options: Connected Hardware Wallet; Airgapped Hardware Wallet; New or Imported Software Wallet; xPub/ Watch only Wallet.
I choose New or Imported Software Wallet.
Continue with one of three options: Mnemonic Words (BIP39); Electrum; Master Private Key (BIP32). I choose Mnemonic Words and choose Use 12 words (You can choose 12, 15, 18, 21 or 24 words).
Continue to set up your wallet. Make sure you back up mnemonic words, password, derivation path.
In the end, you will get a Taproot receiving address that starts with bc1

Nunchuk wallet Desktop and Android
Credit to SFR10 with this post and that post

Download: https://nunchuk.io/

Desktop
  • Add new wallet > Click the dropdown menu for "Advanced: Address Type" and choose Taproot > Key Setup

  • Add a New Key > HW key/SW key > Write down your seed phrases > Confirm your Seed > Name your key > Set a passphrase > Run health check > Confirm & close

  • While your key is selected, click "Assign to wallet", then increase the number for "Required signers" > Click "Next: Review Wallet"

  • Review everything, then click "Create Wallet" > Save "wallet configuration file [BSMS file]"




Android

Trezor Suite:
Credit to Husna QA with this post
v21.12.2 and above.

- In "Accounts", click the "+" sign on "My accounts" to create a "New account".



- In the "Select coin" option, select Bitcoin and at the "Account type", select "Taproot BIP86, P2TR, Bech32m", then click "+ Add account".



- In "Taproot accounts", click the "Receive".



- The following is an example of the generated Taproot address.





Ledger Live
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Since no one has explained how to create a Taproot address on Ledger Live yet, I will briefly describe the process.
After opening and logging in to your Ledger Live account, connect and unlock your hardware wallet with your PIN.

Now click on the "Accounts" tab on the left. On the dropdown list select Bitcoin and click on "Continue".


Ledger Live will then scan all existing Bitcoin accounts that are or aren't part of your portfolio. Give it a minute to finish or stop the scanning process by clicking on the "Stop" button.
To add a Taproot account, you need to switch on the "show all address types" under "Add new account". Give your Taproot account a name and click on the "Add account" button at the bottom.


If done successfully, a confirmation screen will inform you that your new account has been added to your portfolio. You can see it at the bottom of your "Accounts" tab because it's addresses are still unfunded.

To generate a Taproot address, you now need to click on the "Receive" tab on the left, select your new Taproot account on the list, and click "Continue".


A new address will be generated for you. Compare and confirm that the address on Ledger Live matches the one on your hardware wallet and approve it by clicking on both buttons on the device.


You have now successfully created a Taproot address in Ledger Live.


Ledger Live (Android)
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Software and Hardware wallet that Husna QA used in this test:
- Ledger Live Android v3.3.2
- Ledger Nano X

Logging in to Ledger Live; On the "Wallet" icon, select "Add asset" or the "+" sign in the upper right corner.



In the "Add Asset" option, I select "With your Ledger".



In the "Crypto asset" option, select "Bitcoin (BTC)".



In the "Device" option, select the hardware wallet that is connected to Ledger Live.
If the hardware wallet name doesn't appear, tap "Pair with Bluetooth" (Nano X) or connect it via a USB cable (Nano S, Nano S Plus, Nano X).



"Open the Bitcoin app on your device".



Ledger Live will scan all Bitcoin accounts.



Select "More address types" to display other Bitcoin accounts.



Select "Bitcoin (Taproot)" and tap "Continue".



Here is the newly created Bitcoin (Taproot) account:



To generate a Taproot address, tap Bitcoin Account (Taproot), Select "Receive".



Make sure the hardware wallet is still connected to Ledger Live for the process of creating a Taproot address.



Verify address on Device.









Select "Copy address" or "Share address" to copy or share the Taproot address.




OneKey
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OneKey recently added support for Taproot, so here are the steps for creating Taproot addresses in their Android app [it seems to be "open-source"]:

  • When you first open the app, it creates an Ethereum account by default, so you have to change it from the top of the page and select Bitcoin.
    • Then click the "create account" button:


  • Choose Taproot



  • Click "receive" button




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So much easier from the command line. It's one simple line, assuming we are talking about v0.23, of course. This is why I like the command line so much. It can't get too much simpler!

Code:
bitcoin-cli -named getnewaddress label=generic-p2tr address_type=bech32m

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So much easier from the command line. It's one simple line, assuming we are talking about v0.23, of course. This is why I like the command line so much. It can't get too much simpler!
Thank you for it!

I learned a simple thing that I did not know. Using command line is not what people like so even the code line is simple, not all of Bitcoin Core users will use it. They like to click on button and use UI functions than command line and code.

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You are censoring Bitcoin addresses on the barcode and URI but not censoring the Address field.

So much easier from the command line. It's one simple line, assuming we are talking about v0.23, of course. -snip-
Maybe you mean Bitcoin Core v23.0 because the 0 in front of the Bitcoin Core version number since Bitcoin Core v22.0 has been removed.


https://bitcoincore.org/ ;
build: Drop the leading 0 from the version number #20223

Removes the leading 0 from the version number. The minor version, which we had been using as the major version, is now the major version. The revision, which we had been using as the minor version, is now the minor version. The revision number is dropped. The build number is promoted to being part of the version number. This also avoids issues where it was accidentally not included in the version number.

The CLIENT_VERSION remains the same format as previous as previously, as the Major version was 0 so it never actually got included in it.

The user agent string formatter is updated to follow this new versioning.


Taproot address on Trezor Suite:
v21.12.2 and above.

- In "Accounts", click the "+" sign on "My accounts" to create a "New account".



- In the "Select coin" option, select Bitcoin and at the "Account type", select "Taproot BIP86, P2TR, Bech32m", then click "+ Add account".



- In "Taproot accounts", click the "Receive".



- The following is an example of the generated Taproot address.





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Maybe you mean Bitcoin Core v23.0 because the 0 in front of the Bitcoin Core version number since Bitcoin Core v22.0 has been removed.



Yes, small detail but yes. People got what I meant, I'm sure! However, not all wallets already support P2TR addresses, I guess, so we must take that into account when trying to transfer funds from wallets to wallets.
Personally I still haven't performed any transaction from any address to a P2TR one, but I might try real soon, just for the fun of it!

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Yes, small detail but yes. People got what I meant, I'm sure! However, not all wallets already support P2TR addresses, I guess, so we must take that into account when trying to transfer funds from wallets to wallets.
Personally I still haven't performed any transaction from any address to a P2TR one, but I might try real soon, just for the fun of it!
Although not all wallets can create a taproot address, it is still possible to transact between wallets even though they use a different type of bitcoin address.
I've tried it using testnet. E.g. (see address type on Details):

- Taproot address to Legacy address:
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/7fc8c0b311d03e6389361b8fead249ec5ee3b74445d673d72e1f02557162c562?expand

- Taproot address to Bech32 address:
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/6040b88697d38d6a2fb29dc5c30d7379a9a845ac81834ea483fd8a601edfe85c?expand

- Bech32 address to Taproot address
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/6368a08697c159db4391499f22d433b7e27587fb63e64eb026486d4d722776c9?expand

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-snip-
Although not all wallets can create a taproot address, it is still possible to transact between wallets even though they use a different type of bitcoin address.
I've tried it using testnet. E.g. (see address type on Details):
It still depends on the client,
although such transactions are already valid in the network, the client that will create the transaction should support bech32m for it to be able to send to a taproot address.

For example, Electrum only supported bech32m since v4.1.0 (release notes) so let's try v4.0.9:


Taproot to other address types shouldn't have any issue since a wallet that can generate a taproot address should be able to spend from it.

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I made a "short post [regarding their Android app]" in the past when "Nunchuk" introduced it, but here's a detailed version for their desktop app:

  • Add new wallet > Click the dropdown menu for "Advanced: Address Type" and choose Taproot > Key Setup

  • Add a New Key > HW key/SW key > Write down your seed phrases > Confirm your Seed > Name your key > Set a passphrase > Run health check > Confirm & close

  • While your key is selected, click "Assign to wallet", then increase the number for "Required signers" > Click "Next: Review Wallet"

  • Review everything, then click "Create Wallet" > Save "wallet configuration file [BSMS file]"




Btw, it's worth noting that the steps you've posted for Bitcoin Core, also apply to "Bitcoin Knots [a modified version of Bitcoin Core]".

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It still depends on the client,
although such transactions are already valid in the network, the client that will create the transaction should support bech32m for it to be able to send to a taproot address.

For example, Electrum only supported bech32m since v4.1.0 (release notes) so let's try v4.0.9:


Taproot to other address types shouldn't have any issue since a wallet that can generate a taproot address should be able to spend from it.
Thank you for adding the information.
I was trying to send a Bitcoin testnet from a Taproot address in Trezor Suite to a Segwit address (bech32) on Electrum Testnet 4.0.9. Here are the results:
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/0cea3683d706fbc1de120866ac293df7bdbb0bb7ec97be15dbc2e874f00fcb4a





However, when sending back from Electrum 4.0.9 to the Taproot address in Trezor Suite, an 'invalid address or script' notification appears, as you have tested.



Meanwhile, in Electrum v4.1.0, it can receive and send from Segwit to the Taproot address.
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/7aed537c6877c1c77587ccd2a0f812dbeab89c0414edb5285f884ed1a26e5783
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/29dc4cfd68b5653b1e50fe25557b2f280528b20ac038ede20b601171a7044e36



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Yes, small detail but yes. People got what I meant, I'm sure! However, not all wallets already support P2TR addresses, I guess, so we must take that into account when trying to transfer funds from wallets to wallets.
Personally I still haven't performed any transaction from any address to a P2TR one, but I might try real soon, just for the fun of it!
Although not all wallets can create a taproot address, it is still possible to transact between wallets even though they use a different type of bitcoin address.
I've tried it using testnet. E.g. (see address type on Details):

- Taproot address to Legacy address:
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/7fc8c0b311d03e6389361b8fead249ec5ee3b74445d673d72e1f02557162c562?expand

- Taproot address to Bech32 address:
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/6040b88697d38d6a2fb29dc5c30d7379a9a845ac81834ea483fd8a601edfe85c?expand

- Bech32 address to Taproot address
https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/6368a08697c159db4391499f22d433b7e27587fb63e64eb026486d4d722776c9?expand

Sure, of course. The catch here is what each one of us understand by "wallet". Some sees "wallets" as addresses, some see it as a software that can manage several aspects related to addresses and transactions and etc.
So, in this sense, what I mean is that a wallet to be considered to support P2TR addresses, it should, not only generate Taproot addresses, but also transact between 2 P2TR addresses and between at least one P2TR address and one other address of other type! That's what I consider a wallet with P2TR address support!

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-snip-
In both examples of my experiments above
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405946.msg60559318#msg60559318
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405946.msg60559743#msg60559743

Client Software: Bitcoin Core (under v23.0), Trezor Suite v21.12.2, Electrum v4.0.9 and v4.1.0.

In conclusion, sending from a taproot address to a type of bitcoin address on another wallet shouldn't have an issue. However, to send back to the taproot address in another wallet depends on the sending client. As in the second example, Electrum v4.1.0 can send from Bech32 to P2TR, while v4.0.9 can only accept and cannot send to the P2TR address.

I agree with the following nc50lc statement:

Taproot to other address types shouldn't have any issue since a wallet that can generate a taproot address should be able to spend from it.

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Since no one has explained how to create a Taproot address on Ledger Live yet, I will briefly describe the process.
After opening and logging in to your Ledger Live account, connect and unlock your hardware wallet with your PIN.

Now click on the "Accounts" tab on the left. On the dropdown list select Bitcoin and click on "Continue".



Ledger Live will then scan all existing Bitcoin accounts that are or aren't part of your portfolio. Give it a minute to finish or stop the scanning process by clicking on the "Stop" button.
To add a Taproot account, you need to switch on the "show all address types" under "Add new account". Give your Taproot account a name and click on the "Add account" button at the bottom.

 

If done successfully, a confirmation screen will inform you that your new account has been added to your portfolio. You can see it at the bottom of your "Accounts" tab because it's addresses are still unfunded.

To generate a Taproot address, you now need to click on the "Receive" tab on the left, select your new Taproot account on the list, and click "Continue".



A new address will be generated for you. Compare and confirm that the address on Ledger Live matches the one on your hardware wallet and approve it by clicking on both buttons on the device.



You have now successfully created a Taproot address in Ledger Live.

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Creating a Taproot address in Ledger Live (Android)

Completing Pmalek's post above, here's how to create a Taproot address on the Android version of Ledger Live.

Software and Hardware wallet that I used in this test:
- Ledger Live Android v3.3.2
- Ledger Nano X

Logging in to Ledger Live; On the "Wallet" icon, select "Add asset" or the "+" sign in the upper right corner.



In the "Add Asset" option, I select "With your Ledger".



In the "Crypto asset" option, select "Bitcoin (BTC)".



In the "Device" option, select the hardware wallet that is connected to Ledger Live.
If the hardware wallet name doesn't appear, tap "Pair with Bluetooth" (Nano X) or connect it via a USB cable (Nano S, Nano S Plus, Nano X).



"Open the Bitcoin app on your device".



Ledger Live will scan all Bitcoin accounts.



Select "More address types" to display other Bitcoin accounts.



Select "Bitcoin (Taproot)" and tap "Continue".



Here is the newly created Bitcoin (Taproot) account:



To generate a Taproot address, tap Bitcoin Account (Taproot), Select "Receive".



Make sure the hardware wallet is still connected to Ledger Live for the process of creating a Taproot address.



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Select "Copy address" or "Share address" to copy or share the Taproot address.




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Nice! I have never used the Android version of Ledger Live. I think your guide would be even better if you included step-by-step instructions of how to generate a Taproot address as well. You have shown us how to create a Taproot account, let's see the address generation process as well. 

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Nice! I have never used the Android version of Ledger Live. I think your guide would be even better if you included step-by-step instructions of how to generate a Taproot address as well. You have shown us how to create a Taproot account, let's see the address generation process as well. 
I also rarely use Ledger Live android for transactions. I often use it to monitor transactions previously made on a PC using Ledger Nano X + Electrum.
I forgot to show the address generated from the created Bitcoin taproot account. I've updated the step-by-step guide above. Thanks for the suggestion.

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I've updated the step-by-step guide above. Thanks for the suggestion.
Great, now it's complete. Smiley
One more thing popped to my mind while I was reading your post with the updated instructions. When you generate a new address on the desktop version of Ledger Live, you can actually do that even without connecting your Nano and verifying that the address is correct on the screen of your hardware wallet. This is obviously not a recommended thing to do and Ledger warns you about it if you try it. But, like I said, you can do it if you want. Have you tried to generate a new address on the Android version without connecting and unlocking your HW, and does the software allow it?

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Amazing. Thank you everyone for your support to make the topic bigger and bigger. When I created this topic, I knew I can not complete it with all wallets support Taproot. I did not expect to receive all detailed guides from community. Your works help to complete the topic. It's my surprise to know no forum members make this topic because you have more experience than me and better than me to create such guide topic.

I also rarely use Ledger Live android for transactions. I often use it to monitor transactions previously made on a PC using Ledger Nano X + Electrum.
I forgot to show the address generated from the created Bitcoin taproot account. I've updated the step-by-step guide above. Thanks for the suggestion.
Could you explain why, please?

Is there any risk to do this on Android or is it only your personal favorite?

When you generate a new address on the desktop version of Ledger Live, you can actually do that even without connecting your Nano and verifying that the address is correct on the screen of your hardware wallet. This is obviously not a recommended thing to do and Ledger warns you about it if you try it. But, like I said, you can do it if you want. Have you tried to generate a new address on the Android version without connecting and unlocking your HW, and does the software allow it?
What are differences between connecting and not connect Nano and unlocking the hardware wallet?

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Great, now it's complete. Smiley
One more thing popped to my mind while I was reading your post with the updated instructions. When you generate a new address on the desktop version of Ledger Live, you can actually do that even without connecting your Nano and verifying that the address is correct on the screen of your hardware wallet. This is obviously not a recommended thing to do and Ledger warns you about it if you try it. But, like I said, you can do it if you want. Have you tried to generate a new address on the Android version without connecting and unlocking your HW, and does the software allow it?
It must be connected to a hardware wallet to create a Taproot Bitcoin account or any other type of Bitcoin account. A "Connection Failed" notification will appear if no device is connected to Ledger Live, and I cannot continue to create an account.

   

Another option to add an account is to select "Import from desktop" (if the desktop version already has a Bitcoin account).



Likewise, when I tried to generate the Taproot address from the Taproot Bitcoin account in the test above and tap "Receive" at the "Connect device" stage, Ledger Live automatically scans the connected hardware wallet. If it's not there, a "Connection Failed" notification appears. But, there is an option "Continue without my device".

   

As you said, the "Taproot address" can still be created.



However, I recommend checking both in the application and hardware wallet. Not only when sending but when receiving as well.

Is there any risk to do this on Android or is it only your personal favorite?
I prefer to transact via desktop PC.
As far as I know, Ledger Live android or the desktop version is still safe because every transaction requires confirmation from the hardware wallet.

What are differences between connecting and not connect Nano and unlocking the hardware wallet?
By verifying in the Hardware wallet, you can be sure that the generated address belongs to you.

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What are differences between connecting and not connect Nano and unlocking the hardware wallet?
Husna QA already answered this. But let's say the Ledger Live servers were hacked and are displaying the hacker's receiving address in the software. If you don't have your Nano connected and you don't verify that the two addresses match (the one on your Nano's screen and the one on Ledger Live), you could be tricked into funding someone else's address. But if you connect your hardware wallet, you should clearly see that your device is displaying a different address than what is on the software. I have never heard about a case like that, but in theory it could be possible.


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Alright, so the address generation is the same on the mobile version as with the desktop version. They both allow the user to create a new receiving address without verifying it, but the software informs you about the dangers of doing that. Good, thanks!

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your thread explained much ofr other people, thanks


I write this thread to give basic information on where you can create that address.

1. bitcoin core
2. trezor wallet
3. ledger wallet
4. bitgo
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read this tutorial for making a taproot address, but I didn't use the wallet in the tutorial that was posted above, because I uses the coinomi wallet android version, does this wallet support creating a taproot address? and what is the importance to use taproot address?
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I uses the coinomi wallet android version, does this wallet support creating a taproot address?
AFAIK, it doesn't and there's no plan to support it in the near future!

and what is the importance to use taproot address?
OP of this thread already created a thread that covers this question [make sure to "also" read the subsequent posts on that thread]: Bitcoin Taproot (Bech32m - bc1p) adoption

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why there is no list of electrum, can we create Taproot address using electrum wallet?
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Nice tutorial, this was pretty clear though I haven't yet tried. I will have a try tonight with my ledger one.

Everything is clear but what I'm concerned is why have you blurred the address in the url section while the same address is available right after the payment url. Or what is missing which I can't find or understand. Why didn't you blur from the address tab if that's the issue.

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why there is no list of electrum, can we create Taproot address using electrum wallet?
No.
Since version 4.1.0, it's possible to send fund to a taproot address, but it's still impossible to create a taproot address in electrum.
According to the post made byecdsa on electrum's github, developers surely have plan to add the possibility of creating taproot addresses in electrum.

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why there is no list of electrum, can we create Taproot address using electrum wallet?
No.
Since version 4.1.0, it's possible to send fund to a taproot address, but it's still impossible to create a taproot address in electrum.
According to the post made byecdsa on electrum's github, developers surely have plan to add the possibility of creating taproot addresses in electrum.

it's quite sad electrum is too late to implement, electrum is what most people used. The dev must be looking to implement it on the next update.
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If you still don't know what is Taproot and how to get a Taproot address bc1p, please read this topic.

And if you want to know about Taproot adoption, what wallets support Taproot, what exchanges support it, there is Bitcoin Taproot (Bech32m - bc1p) adoption for you.

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If you still don't know what is Taproot and how to get a Taproot address bc1p, please read this topic.
You might want also to add Exodus to the list Smiley


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November 29, 2022, 02:11:04 AM
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You might want also to add Exodus to the list Smiley
I will have to spend a few days to consider it. Main reason is Exodus wallet is not a completely open-source wallet. Many opponents of that wallet are close-source.

Is Exodus open source?

Although Exodus is built on many open-source components, there are components of Exodus that are not open-source.

Exodus publishes some open-source work used in Exodus on Github. You can view the source code, history, and continually published updates by visiting: Exodus Movement.

You can find Exodus's developer documentation that shows you how to support Exodus Web3 Wallet in your Web3 app here: Exodus Docs.

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Thank you for links that look useful but as written, I will have to consider about the close-source specification of Exodus wallet.

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it's quite sad electrum is too late to implement, electrum is what most people used. The dev must be looking to implement it on the next update.
One of the wallet I have been expecting P2TR in its update is Electrum, but nothing like that yet, but Electrum is still one of the best bitcoin wallets with many features that many other bitcoin wallets are not having, we hope it supports P2TR later on. Another wallet I have been expecting to see P2TR is Bluewallet, not yet supporting it too.

I will have to spend a few days to consider it. Main reason is Exodus wallet is not a completely open-source wallet. Many opponents of that wallet are close-source.
Unless you just want to make a table to differentiate the open source wallets and the close source wallets that support P2TR would be my advice. I too will like to see just the open source wallets that support P2TR only on your list. Close source wallets should not be recommended because of any reason when there are open source alternatives.


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OP, I know almost everyone is all about privacy but I do think you could've chosen to use fresh wallet addresses or newly installed wallets for your exposition in instances where you needed to blur the addresses like in a few examples you made. By the way, it's there any reason for blurring them while some were left open?

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By the way, it's there any reason for blurring them while some were left open?
He didn't answer Little Mouse's question as well:
Everything is clear but what I'm concerned is why have you blurred the address in the url section while the same address is available right after the payment url. Or what is missing which I can't find or understand.
Nor reply to Husna QA's mention of the uncensored part of the image:
You are censoring Bitcoin addresses on the barcode and URI but not censoring the Address field.

My guess is: The QR Code is censored so that user wont accidentally scan it, and the URI part of the invoice is censored so users wont be able to click it (but it's an image :P).

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OP, I know almost everyone is all about privacy but I do think you could've chosen to use fresh wallet addresses or newly installed wallets for your exposition in instances where you needed to blur the addresses like in a few examples you made. By the way, it's there any reason for blurring them while some were left open?
You made a valid point and I much appreciate it.

It is a good reminder for newbies who share their seeds, private key, public address online without consideration about their privacy.

Everything is clear but what I'm concerned is why have you blurred the address in the url section while the same address is available right after the payment url. Or what is missing which I can't find or understand.
Nor reply to Husna QA's mention of the uncensored part of the image:
You are censoring Bitcoin addresses on the barcode and URI but not censoring the Address field.
I wanted to reply when I saw those posts but I did not log in my account. Today I can answer that
- That wallet is a dummy one that I never use.
- So why did I blur in some images? I want to make a good practice but forgot to blur in one or two images which were spotted by some members. Because I think if we don't care about blurring image with example, maybe we will have bad habit to be careless when we share wallets which we actually use for our bitcoins.

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My guess is: The QR Code is censored so that user wont accidentally scan it, and the URI part of the invoice is censored so users wont be able to click it (but it's an image Tongue).
You made a funny guess but there are reasons why you guessed so. Well minded man.

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- So why did I blur in some images? I want to make a good practice but forgot to blur in one or two images which were spotted by some members. Because I think if we don't care about blurring image with example, maybe we will have bad habit to be careless when we share wallets which we actually use for our bitcoins.
Ok, I think I've an idea what you intended to achieve by blurring addresses and that's to alert users that they don't have to expose their addresses. However, I don't that should be any problem with public addresses since it's the medium for receiving transactions. I don't think anyone loses anything by exposing that or do they? That's not like Pkeys or Passphrases.

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Create your Bitcoin wallet with Taproot addresses to minimize fee you pay for transactions and to support Taproot adoption.

The adoption is upward parabolic in last one year.

Bitcoin Taproot (Bech32m - bc1p) adoption in past 1 year.

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Create your Bitcoin wallet with Taproot addresses to minimize fee you pay for transactions and to support Taproot adoption.
P2TR transactions are of low fee, but it is worth knowing that the segwit version 0 which is still widely used are also of low fee. If you are the type that make transactions with many outputs often with little inputs, segwit version 0 is of lower fee, but if you are the type that receive transactions often without spending it, P2TR is of low fee while consolidating or sending more inputs.

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OneKey recently added support for Taproot, so here are the steps for creating Taproot addresses in their Android app [it seems to be "open-source"]:

  • When you first open the app, it creates an Ethereum account by default, so you have to change it from the top of the page and select Bitcoin.
    • Then click the "create account" button:


  • Choose Taproot



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Make it visible for newbies to discover Taproot


Thank you. I updated OP with OneKey and your guide.

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Dear colleagues! 
Do you have any information when devs electrum will finally add Taproot support. ?
 it’s generally strange that such a popular wallet hasn’t been able to do this for so long.  I'm just surprised by this decision devs electrum?. 
Obviously, you still have to add P2TR accounts.  And it's better if the devs add them sooner rather than later.

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Do you have any information when devs electrum will finally add Taproot support. ?
AFAIK, there's no roadmap on their "Github repo",  so I don't think anyone of us has that information, but they did mention "Taproot has to wait because they're focusing on the lightning & UX parts" and since most of their recent updates involve lightning, I don't think it's that far [hopefully].

I'm just surprised by this decision devs electrum?. 
Same here and they seemed to be annoyed when users ask about it:


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April 24, 2023, 02:20:06 PM
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Do you have any information when devs electrum will finally add Taproot support. ?
AFAIK, there's no roadmap on their "Github repo",  so I don't think anyone of us has that information, but they did mention "Taproot has to wait because they're focusing on the lightning & UX parts" and since most of their recent updates involve lightning, I don't think it's that far [hopefully].

I'm just surprised by this decision devs electrum?. 
Same here and they seemed to be annoyed when users ask about it:

All this is rather sad, also because LN is certainly an interesting technology, but its demand for bitcoin users is still a big question?  This is too complicated for an ordinary not very literate bitcoin user.  And by the way, in the last 5 years, LN has not evolved into a global technology, because there are many reasons why it is developing so slowly.  If I'm not mistaken, only about 5000 BTC are blocked in the LN channels so far, which is very small compared to the entire BTC turnover. 

I think it would be better for the devs of this wallet to focus on the Taproot theme, as it is more promising.  Nunchuk, OneKey, Ledger, and other hardware wallets are already far ahead in these upgrades to their wallets.

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If I'm not mistaken, only about 5000 BTC are blocked in the LN channels so far, which is very small compared to the entire BTC turnover. 
You mean the amount of bitcoin in public channels on the lightning network? Yes, just 5535.72 BTC as of today.

I think it would be better for the devs of this wallet to focus on the Taproot theme, as it is more promising.  Nunchuk, OneKey, Ledger, and other hardware wallets are already far ahead in these upgrades to their wallets.
Lightning network is lightning network. Taproot is Taproot. They are just not the same and one did not disturb the other.

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April 25, 2023, 11:09:11 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, only about 5000 BTC are blocked in the LN channels so far, which is very small compared to the entire BTC turnover.  
You mean the amount of bitcoin in public channels on the lightning network? Yes, just 5535.72 BTC as of today.

I think it would be better for the devs of this wallet to focus on the Taproot theme, as it is more promising.  Nunchuk, OneKey, Ledger, and other hardware wallets are already far ahead in these upgrades to their wallets.
Lightning network is lightning network. Taproot is Taproot. They are just not the same and one did not disturb the other.
All the same, these two areas should be dealt with even despite the increased requirements for those programmers who are able to code at the Taproot level.  Of course, we are not aware of the priorities of devs of different wallets, but, in my opinion, the topic of improvements in terms of simplifying the use of LN, if many devs of different wallets are involved in it, will face a serious problem when opening new channels, especially when this is done automatically.  Just because of the mass use.  Honestly, I don’t know how important it is to apply all the efforts of devs only to the topic of improvements or the introduction of LN.  
The experience of such a popular wallet as the Blue wallet, which will partially limit LN from April 30, about which it warned everyone a long time ago, tells us that the relevance of this topic has been lost for Blue.  
And I guess I understand them.  
The wallet without LN is quite convenient and popular, since users have already downloaded it only from the Android market more than 100 000 times.

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April 26, 2023, 02:48:38 PM
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All this is rather sad, also because LN is certainly an interesting technology, but its demand for bitcoin users is still a big question?  This is too complicated for an ordinary not very literate bitcoin user.  And by the way, in the last 5 years, LN has not evolved into a global technology, because there are many reasons why it is developing so slowly.
The adoption for Bitcoin Lightning Network is better than few years ago. Rome wasn't built in a day so with this increasing adoption for Lightning Network, we can expect something bigger for it.

You can consider similarly to adoption for Bitcoin Segwit address and transaction. It did not catch too much attention and bitcoin users to use it. After a few years since 2017, it is very big now.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/charts/segwit-usage

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If I'm not mistaken, only about 5000 BTC are blocked in the LN channels so far, which is very small compared to the entire BTC turnover.
This is nearly correct, 5540 BTC are blocked in 84540 Lightning Network channels.
https://txstats.com/dashboard/db/lightning-network?orgId=1&from=now-5y&to=now

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Not sure why this thread has moved to the "Bitcoin Discussion" board [last time I checked, it was in the "Beginners & Help" board], but regardless of that, I decided to re-upload all of those invalid Imgur images into "TalkImg".


You can also add the "Unstoppable Wallet" to the list.

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@SquirrelJulietGarden, Recently I was interested in knowing more about the Taproot address for my Bitcoin wallet and Little Mouse referred me to this topic. He also mentioned the images are outdated due to the Imgur issue. But as I can see, you are active and SFR10 already collected all those images.

Would you mind updating those images so we can see understand the tutorial better? I also agree with SFR10 that this topic supposed to be in Beginner and help section instead of Bitcoin discussion.
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October 26, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
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You can also add the "Unstoppable Wallet" to the list.
Unstoppable wallet is supporting pay-to-taproot addresses, but there are still other wallets that can be included.

Other wallets that are supporting pay-to-taproot are: Fully Nodes, BitBox02, Coldcard, Specter, Bitmask, Muun, Zeus wallet, Blixt walletz, MyCitadel, Exodus wallet etc cetera.

You can see it here: Wallets supporting Taproot

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Other wallets that are supporting pay-to-taproot are: Fully Nodes, BitBox02, Coldcard, Specter, Bitmask, Muun, Zeus wallet, Blixt walletz, MyCitadel, Exodus wallet etc cetera.
You're right, but it's worth mentioning that @SquirrelJulietGarden wanted to only list open-source wallets so some of the above names would've not been added to the list, but I don't think it matters anymore since it appears that OP is no longer interested in updating the thread [unfortunately].

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