In a world of financial oppression Bitcoin is the the only escape route

[Piesel]

Bitcoin and fiat co-exist within the same financial system, if you say Bitcoin is the escape route as a store of value I will agree with you on that. But as a currency Bitcoin can not be the escape route against the centralized government since Bitcoin is not a legal tender in most countries around the world and not everybody accepts Bitcoin as payment, so your Bitcoin still depends on fiat exchange to be used to pay for goods and services.

[TelolettOm]

The only way?
This may be too much because, in fact, we know how many countries and companies still don't accept Bitcoin. In fact, Bitcoin is still mostly not accepted as currency in many countries. Btw, we may know that bitcoin always has the power and is very big, influenced by many people around the world, globally. But n fact,we are still limited by the country regulation.We can still need to convert BTC to fiat to be able using them for paymenet. We still need to face the bad news of Bitcoin around the world. And we must also still face the volaitlity of Bitcoin. But exactly, this is what thespecial of Btcoin itself, that is much more worthy again from time to times.

[romero121]

The only way?
This may be too much because, in fact, we know how many countries and companies still don't accept Bitcoin. In fact, Bitcoin is still mostly not accepted as currency in many countries. Btw, we may know that bitcoin always has the power and is very big, influenced by many people around the world, globally. But n fact,we are still limited by the country regulation.We can still need to convert BTC to fiat to be able using them for payment. We still need to face the bad news of Bitcoin around the world. And we must also still face the volatility of Bitcoin. But exactly, this is what the special of Bitcoin itself, that is much more worthy again from time to times.

The awareness about Bitcoin is all around, and the real value of bitcoin too is well understood by the common man. Most of the countries haven't regulated the usage of bitcoin, but they're still in the process. Very few countries have officially announced the ban over cryptocurrency usage.

Bitcoin as a payment might gain importance in the long term, because people are well used to technology dependent payments. Every form of transformation have taken place in a short time period. Bitcoin too should've got used, but for some reason it hasn't used much. As an investment it is getting more importance.

[Derbind]

I don’t think Bitcoin can do much to save us from inflation and price hikes. Unless the traditional currency system is entirely abolished and there is a mass adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender which is not going to happen anytime soon. Even though BTC is immune to inflation, it is still very volatile and we still have a long way to go.

[Agbe]

I woke up to a slamming email from my bank today on government new duty stamps that will be sucking a whopping #50 from each deposit of #10,000 and above deposits,  this made me wonder on the level of the audacity of the government who has failed to provide a good micro economic environment for the teeming youths who have found Bitcoin trading as the escape root to financial over-reliance on the government and lack of jobs opportunities. With this over-taxation, a lot of people like myself will opt to hold and receive money through Bitcoin to avoid this crazy bank stamp tax that is aimed at robbing the citizens to enrich corrupt political office holders.

The ATM, the withdrawal and the deposit charges in my locality is now something else. I really do not want to do. Anytime when I withdraw cash with the ATM even below 10k the 50 naira charge would be taken and every week #100 for ATM electronic maintenance levy. The whole thing just tired me. The present government in the country is worst government ever. The government put policies without thinking of the poor masses in the country, they just think all has an equal wealth. If bitcoin can be used to buy goods and also for services, it will go a long way to save us. Because since nobody control the individuals Wallet. There is no extra charges from the government therefore, things will be moving smoothly.

Though bitcoin might not remove inflation of goods and services but it will make the Fiat currency to some extent redundant. That is mostly the bitcoiners in the country will be using bitcoin more than the Fiat currency.

[peter0425]

I would disagree with saying bitcoin is the only escape route but would agree it's one of, if not the best, escape route from financial oppression and tyranny due to over inflation caused by "printing" unlimited money.

Well Maybe says that overstatement because He is in full confidence with Bitcoin just  like most of us , If I have same positioning from OP? I will do the same thing and will stands the same word.
Mentioning that "Only Escape" is a Big statement but at least he will truly supporting bitcoin than those other option .

[KaliLinux]

I woke up to a slamming email from my bank today on government new duty stamps that will be sucking a whopping #50 from each deposit of #10,000 and above deposits,  this made me wonder on the level of the audacity of the government who has failed to provide a good micro economic environment for the teeming youths who have found Bitcoin trading as the escape root to financial over-reliance on the government and lack of jobs opportunities. With this over-taxation, a lot of people like myself will opt to hold and receive money through Bitcoin to avoid this crazy bank stamp tax that is aimed at robbing the citizens to enrich corrupt political office holders.

I hear you and feel the same way. However, I can't seem to confirm if it was directed to all Banks to be honest. I didn't receive that message from my other Bank only from that Online Purple Bank ^{(I dint want to mention their names)} and I received a deposit in my other bank account after that mail and didn't notice this charge however, I did notice an additional charge outside the regular SMS charge like, "VAT on SMS" among Maintenance and VAT from the Orange color Bank.
Like @hatshepsut93 said,

And then you have to convert your Bitcoin to fiat to be able to actually pay for things, which means paying transaction fees, trading fees, withdrawal fees. Until you are able to go anywhere you want and always be able to pay via Lightning Network, Bitcoin isn't really an escape - at best it would lower some fees.

Until we really get to the day where we can buy or pay for every good/service through Bitcoin as easy as we want, we will still be coming back to this issue cos we have to for now, convert that Bitcoin to fiat which will still go to your Bank account and the Government will still have a piece of it.  

[Yamifoud]

I would disagree with saying bitcoin is the only escape route but would agree it's one of, if not the best, escape route from financial oppression and tyranny due to over inflation caused by "printing" unlimited money.

Well Maybe says that overstatement because He is in full confidence with Bitcoin just  like most of us , If I have same positioning from OP? I will do the same thing and will stands the same word.
Mentioning that "Only Escape" is a Big statement but at least he will truly supporting bitcoin than those other option .

That "ONLY" means no other option to take which is wrong. But I understand what OP is trying to say and that he wants to escape from huge taxes making him think that the government is just milking all fiat holders. And he notices that instead of saving it from banks, putting his money in Bitcoin is obvious it saves him and only just pays a small amount of transactions fee compared to the banks. But I was afraid that soon the government will impose huge taxes on exchanges making them urge to increase regular transactions.

[yazher]

Expect to have this kind of scenario when your financial system in your country is corrupt and they will gonna put the weight on the shoulders of their clients to ease their loss from the government corruption. Bitcoin doesn't have this kind of nonsense because it is all yours and you have the freedom whether you want to send your bitcoins as donations to some people or not. Whereas in banks, as soon as they put some regulations on their system that involve paying a little number of fees, you cannot argue with them instead you just follow the procedure even though you are completely against it.

[bestcoins1]

I don’t think Bitcoin can do much to save us from inflation and price hikes. Unless the traditional currency system is entirely abolished and there is a mass adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender which is not going to happen anytime soon. Even though BTC is immune to inflation, it is still very volatile and we still have a long way to go.

One question. Do you still believe in Bitcoin now?
Indeed, Bitcoin cannot cope with existing inflation because its price is still volatile, but that does not mean that Bitcoin is weak due to not being able to cope with inflation.
Because as long as there are still many entrepreneurs and investors who like Bitcoin and the demand and supply is still alive on Bitcoin in the market, then you don't have to worry about the current state of Bitcoin.

[kamvreto]

I don’t think Bitcoin can do much to save us from inflation and price hikes. Unless the traditional currency system is entirely abolished and there is a mass adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender which is not going to happen anytime soon. Even though BTC is immune to inflation, it is still very volatile and we still have a long way to go.

One question. Do you still believe in Bitcoin now?
Indeed, Bitcoin cannot cope with existing inflation because its price is still volatile, but that does not mean that Bitcoin is weak due to not being able to cope with inflation.
Because as long as there are still many entrepreneurs and investors who like Bitcoin and the demand and supply is still alive on Bitcoin in the market, then you don't have to worry about the current state of Bitcoin.

those who are worried about the condition of bitcoin are certainly those who do not fully understand how bitcoin works. Currently bitcoin is still the most expensive digital asset and has many enthusiasts around the world. Despite fluctuating prices, bitcoin remains strong while maintaining its value. moreover the supply of bitcoin is only 21 million and there is only a little left to be mined, when bitcoin is fully mined, bitcoin will be increasingly rare and more expensive.

[darewaller]

That "ONLY" means no other option to take which is wrong. But I understand what OP is trying to say and that he wants to escape from huge taxes making him think that the government is just milking all fiat holders. And he notices that instead of saving it from banks, putting his money in Bitcoin is obvious it saves him and only just pays a small amount of transactions fee compared to the banks. But I was afraid that soon the government will impose huge taxes on exchanges making them urge to increase regular transactions.

That’s true, "only" could be wrong because there are some other options. Hell, my nation is doing so bad that I could buy straight up fiat dollar and I would be doing fine, I made a lot less salary this month compared to other months but since it was in dollars (freelancer) I will still be fine, not doing great, but I won't be hungry or starving at all, I will have a "above average" life instead of "below rich" life and I am fine with that all because it is in dollars.

So, crypto is definitely the "best" option out there, it is not the only one though. I still prefer bitcoin though, it is insane to think that we could actually retire in 10 years if we know how to invest and that means someone who starts working today at 22-23 years old, could retire when they are 32-33 years old all from the money they made from bitcoin. I know that sounds silly but that is the reality we are living in right now.

[jaberwock]

That "ONLY" means no other option to take which is wrong. But I understand what OP is trying to say and that he wants to escape from huge taxes making him think that the government is just milking all fiat holders. And he notices that instead of saving it from banks, putting his money in Bitcoin is obvious it saves him and only just pays a small amount of transactions fee compared to the banks. But I was afraid that soon the government will impose huge taxes on exchanges making them urge to increase regular transactions.

That’s true, "only" could be wrong because there are some other options. Hell, my nation is doing so bad that I could buy straight up fiat dollar and I would be doing fine, I made a lot less salary this month compared to other months but since it was in dollars (freelancer) I will still be fine, not doing great, but I won't be hungry or starving at all, I will have a "above average" life instead of "below rich" life and I am fine with that all because it is in dollars.

So, crypto is definitely the "best" option out there, it is not the only one though. I still prefer bitcoin though, it is insane to think that we could actually retire in 10 years if we know how to invest and that means someone who starts working today at 22-23 years old, could retire when they are 32-33 years old all from the money they made from bitcoin. I know that sounds silly but that is the reality we are living in right now.

Agree. Bitcoin is only one of the thousands or millions of crypto so it is not the only one that people can choose to escape the traditional fiat system. Your nation isn't bad but every nation has its unique characteristics but the one that is bad is the person who manages it or your government system.

Maybe you have a problem with your own local currencies, this is why you think using a dollar is much better. Reminds me of Sri Lanka where they are lately been on the same problem and they want to make the dollar as their main currency along with gold but I think that bitcoin or cryptos can do better, since it's value can grow and it's not controlled by a government.

[indah rezqi]

Agree. Bitcoin is only one of the thousands or millions of crypto so it is not the only one that people can choose to escape the traditional fiat system.

But bitcoin is the best choice if you really want to stay decentralized about the financial system. Dozens of other altcoin don't have as many use cases as currencies, but of course some decentralized altcoin are also great to use when someone is concerned about their financial privacy.

So far I do not use bitcoin as a means of payment even though bitcoin is actually the best choice for it compared to fiat or other altcoin. I can't break the rules issued by the government regarding legal currency as a means of payment, so because so far bitcoin or crypto is not legalized for it, I prefer to be safe than having to violate these rules. Bitcoin has many advantages over fiat, but anyway I can not force the desire to use it as long as the government prohibits it as a means of payment. As a payment option, bitcoin can really be considered as one of the cryptocurrencies with a good use case.

[AakZaki]

that's centralization, they will arrange according to their wishes so that they can get a lot of benefits. the tax is increasing, you can't protest against the regulation, like it or not you have to pay it.
But if using bitcoin the government can't do anything, that's also the cause of bitcoin getting strict regulation. Even cryptocurrency users are required to pay taxes according to the amount of assets they hold, but no one will report the amount of assets they have because that is the same as falling into a trap. better shut up and enjoy the freedom.

[Doan9269]

Bitcoin and fiat co-exist within the same financial system, if you say Bitcoin is the escape route as a store of value I will agree with you on that. But as a currency Bitcoin can not be the escape route against the centralized government since Bitcoin is not a legal tender in most countries around the world and not everybody accepts Bitcoin as payment, so your Bitcoin still depends on fiat exchange to be used to pay for goods and services.

But if we are going to agree with what OP mean from his topic then we will see bitcoin as a currency that has been an alternative in providing better solution to the long time oppression endured enough which fiat couldn't, do here it's not a matter of those thatake bitcoin a legal tender or not bit ad long as an individual adopt the use of bitcoin in his financial obligations then the escape route is guaranteed on that individual and not the government or general public.

[JayJuanGee]

You can not be completely dependent on bitcoin right because bitcoin will provide a means of transaction in future, and in that Government will put its charge also but only real money will run in the market. The Government does not want that their finances are completely out of their hands

If bitcoin is one of the options that you employ for yourself, then you are far from making yourself "completely dependent on bitcoin."

Each person needs to figure out and then choose their level of allocation into bitcoin and with having some bitcoin in your holdings, you likely give yourself more rather than fewer options.

Regarding what the government wants or what they may want or what they think they want, that is both an evolving thing but it is also not any kind of specific thing because we have all kinds of governments and their ways of coordinating what they supposedly want is also not necessarily clear.

Bitcoin seems to achieve a lot of things that governments say that they want, but frequently those governments with money printing capacities might not want bitcoin and/or they might be threatened by bitcoin because bitcoin reduces their frequently abused capacities when it comes to money printing and various ways that they control the money supply - which ultimately seems to get back to various ways (especially in recent times) that governments have been debasing the value of money through printing techniques but then mostly lying (unless they are confused as well) in regards to either what they are doing or the negative effects that monetary debasement seems to have.

I would disagree with saying bitcoin is the only escape route but would agree it's one of, if not the best, escape route from financial oppression and tyranny due to over inflation caused by "printing" unlimited money.

Yes, technically you are correct that bitcoin is not the "only" escape route, and it likely would not be very smart for people to fail/refuse to diversify the various ways that they hold their wealth and then also if they fail/refuse to account for their own individual circumstances including but not limited to cashflow, other investments, view of bitcoin as compared with other investments, timeline, risk tolerance, time, skills and abilities to strategize, plan, research and learn along the way including tweaking strategies from time to time to consider trading, reallocating, use of leverage and/or financial instruments.

Bitcoin has a lot of advantages over a lot of assets/currencies, yet getting too much exposure to a good thing has its own likely problems.

[lalabotax]

This is the real condition in this world, and in fact, we cannot avoid taxes and government regulations. Even though we can use Bitcoin, the fact is that we still have to convert the Bitcoin into fiat in order to spend it.
I myself also see that the more the government raises or makes taxes for certain things and the taxes are burdensome, doesn't that mean they fail to provide a decent living for their people?
We know how much tax we have to pay, but we know how it will turn out for the benefit of the state. Unfortunately a lot of corruption from these taxes. What a pity.
And once again, we too must be forced to follow the rules of the government, even though it sometimes burdens us. If only Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies could actually be legally a currency in our country.

[Piesel]

The issue of fees is never going to end and even Bitcoin also comes with its network fees, this also applies to your bank charges. But lately, a lot of banks have placed so many taxes on different transactions both cryptocurrency and Fiat transactions, some countries already placed income taxes on all the money that entered into their client bank account, and even crypto income is also taxed, so now the question can one truly escape paying fees simply adopting Bitcoin.

[edgycorner]

This is ridiculous. They just need an excuse to make you pay more taxes. 10,000 isn't a big amount, even for a small business in US. Imagine paying 50 dollars on a each deposit of 10,000 while trying to run a business on slim margins, it will be infuriating!

I am not a US citizen, but I used to have a bank account with WF through a C-corp. I used to beg for discounts on each invoice to keep it profitable, but unfortunately it still went down. if I was made to pay 50 more on a "deposit" during that time, that would turn me into hulk mode lol

Close your bank and buy some silver if you are old and retired lol (NFA DYOR)