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July 17, 2022, 02:05:57 PM
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Chinese gambler will surely believe on this, and they have this tradition in almost everything not just in gambling.
There's nothing wrong if you have this ritual before you gamble, what is wrong here is if you depend on that belief and spend too much money. This is still gambling, and luck will still be the main reason why we are winning. We have this kind of tradition as well, and there's nothing to lose if you believe on this sometimes.

Yesterday I've thought about Gambling and fengshui and my question was: also in Macao there are casino that has made something with fengshui and respect the chinese superstiction? I would be really surprised to see that

American casino has adapted their structure for them and in Macao there isn't nothing about.


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July 17, 2022, 06:45:37 PM
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this concept seems quite interesting, i used it in laying out my apartment but never thought that it can also be incorporated in gambling. any books that go deeper in this subject?
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July 17, 2022, 07:15:11 PM
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As far as I am concerned Feng Shui is just another superstition. I would even go as far as comparing it to people who suffer from OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) who, in many cases, have a need for order and to follow certain patterns of behaviour before doing an activity.

The effectiveness of Feng Shui on gambling can be easily verified with a study. Grab a bunch of people, note who follows Feng Shui, who doesn't and track their gambling performance. On a large enough scale I'm sure there will be no difference between the two groups. Otherwise the casinos would have gone bankrupt  Cheesy
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July 17, 2022, 08:41:25 PM
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this concept seems quite interesting, i used it in laying out my apartment but never thought that it can also be incorporated in gambling. any books that go deeper in this subject?
Feng shui should work like this, their purpose is to arrange things into the right place so they can have more peace and prosperity, I’m also thinking if this one can really use in gambling though maybe Casinos are also have this kind of belief. There’s nothing wrong with this, you can have this if you think it can help you attract more gamblers but if you are a gambler and will use feng shui, I think its not gonna work since its a different belief.

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July 17, 2022, 08:47:25 PM
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As far as I am concerned Feng Shui is just another superstition. I would even go as far as comparing it to people who suffer from OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) who, in many cases, have a need for order and to follow certain patterns of behaviour before doing an activity.

The effectiveness of Feng Shui on gambling can be easily verified with a study. Grab a bunch of people, note who follows Feng Shui, who doesn't and track their gambling performance. On a large enough scale I'm sure there will be no difference between the two groups. Otherwise the casinos would have gone bankrupt  Cheesy
Many animal are considered sacred and people do believe that it matters.
However those who believe in number, but in both case - people do keep these elements in consideration.

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July 17, 2022, 08:48:47 PM
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Fengshui is an interesting topic that I was surprised to see in bitcointalk and gambling section. Of all the big businesses in Asia (China, Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Singapore, Malaysia,...), all followed Fengshui or an equivalent local version of it. I will cut you from all the bullshit regarding fate and destiny that Sinosphere and Asians things. The main good reason behind Fengshui is it helps people to have confidence in their workplace, in their home, in their way to meet business partners or doing things that are important. Basically, a pat up your confidence and this is where Asian casinos also have Fengshui since it boosts and gives gamblers the same boost up to their confidences so they can feel luckier and gamble more.
I totally agree with your views on feng shui (it's just a tradition to make those who believe to be confident and comfortable with themselves / a kind of suggestion to the mind). 99% of Asians who believe in feng shui are of mixed Chinese/Chinese descent. hence fensgshui is not very popular among the majority of other asian citizens (who are not of chinese ancestry).

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July 17, 2022, 08:57:18 PM
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Feng shui is an ancient Chinese art of arranging buildings, objects, and space in an environment to achieve harmony and balance

But do you know that Fengshui is practiced and observed in gambling and in popular casino cities? even MGM and many hotels in casinos are following Fengshui, these are just some of the examples


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the MGM Grand had to change its entrance, one that formerly forced customers to walk through the mouth of a lion (actually, under its chin, but close enough), deemed to be a very bad mojo by players from Asia.


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The number Four is unlucky because it sounds like the Chinese word for “death.” This is why many hotels in Las Vegas skip floor numbers that start with the number four. The Rio Las Vegas, for example, is advertised as having 51 floors, but if you deduct the missing 40-49, it actually has just 41. The Encore is also missing floors 40-49.

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So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

How about you? Do you have Fengshui practice that you're observing when you are about to play or while playing
I do believe in Fengshui when it comes to attracting luck in my career and how to improve it. However, when it comes to gambling, i have never tried to gamble applying all my fengshui beliefs. For me, gambling is just something that is out of your control, even if you do your mantras before gambling, that don't make any guarantee to win. Well, not to offend those fengshui enthusiasts, but not all in fengshui have proven effective. Everything still lies into our own efforts, and in gambling, relying its own statistics are mostly the bases to win in gambling.

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July 17, 2022, 09:06:03 PM
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The effectiveness of Feng Shui on gambling can be easily verified with a study. Grab a bunch of people, note who follows Feng Shui, who doesn't and track their gambling performance. On a large enough scale I'm sure there will be no difference between the two groups. Otherwise the casinos would have gone bankrupt  Cheesy

This study will surely show the ineffectiveness of Feng Shui in gambling activities.  For sure all of these subjects will have a different result, there might be a possibility that the subject that doesn't follow the Feng Shui will yield the highest winnings while those who follows might get their bankroll depleted.  Since the chance of winning in a gambling game is random, especially in a game of luck/chance.
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The world scientific community considers fengshui a pseudoscience because it is impossible to verify the existence of qi energy flows on which this theory is based. In my opinion, those people who believe in this theory are trying to change their lives for the better with this belief just like people who believe in God do. I don't think it helps them either in life or in gambling.
You're right that it's all about changing their lives to have a good life.

That means that they're doing it and possibly that many of them are reflecting it in their ends and believes that all the good things that are happening to them is because of it.

Can't break that belief of them if they keep on doing it and they're standing firm with that thought.

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So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

Since it's luck maybe these people are finding ways how to make that luck comes to them.

Not wrong after all as what if, even though there's no explanation about it, they are really lucky to using those feng-shui practices.

I guess we just have to leave it that way and let them do what they want.

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July 18, 2022, 03:42:09 AM
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We just have to respect what they believe, besides, most of the time we only rely on gambling to win, and even if it's a skilled-based type of gambling, we still need some luck to win. They have their belief, then be it, the most important is we are responsible enough and be realistic at the same time so we will know how much we can afford to risk and our chances of winning.
It would not be advisable to spend most of our time just playing gambling because we also don't have a big chance of winning. Maybe if they really want to do it like that, we'll just let it be because that's what they want. The important thing is that we don't bother them and respect what they want to do so we will play our own way. Thus, each of us will be able to enjoy the gambling game and get pleasure from gambling.

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So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

Since it's luck maybe these people are finding ways how to make that luck comes to them.

Not wrong after all as what if, even though there's no explanation about it, they are really lucky to using those feng-shui practices.

I guess we just have to leave it that way and let them do what they want.

We just need to leave it that way and let them believe in something that increases their hope of winning,

There are people who act or believe like that and there's nothing to be bother they have their own mindsets about believing
in this kind of mystery or additional luck enhancement. Oh well, I don't know how to label, but to the gamblers that uses it
they are in the position that it can add winning to their gambling.
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So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

Since it's luck maybe these people are finding ways how to make that luck comes to them.

Not wrong after all as what if, even though there's no explanation about it, they are really lucky to using those feng-shui practices.

I guess we just have to leave it that way and let them do what they want.

We just need to leave it that way and let them believe in something that increases their hope of winning,

There are people who act or believe like that and there's nothing to be bother they have their own mindsets about believing
in this kind of mystery or additional luck enhancement. Oh well, I don't know how to label, but to the gamblers that uses it
they are in the position that it can add winning to their gambling.

Everyone is free to do whatever they think can increase the chances of winning when gambling. As long as what we do is not breaking the gambling
rules and not cheating the casino,  it seems there is nothing to stop us from believing in the practice of Fengshui. So just do what we think can
increase our confidence to win, and something like fengshui practice that can allow us to increase our self-confidence would be very good to do.
But of course don't force others to believe what we believe, because everyone has their own way which is believed to bring luck when gambling.

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July 18, 2022, 05:33:40 AM
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I'm not an expert on Fengshui, but if a casino is really arranged by the laws of Fengshui, wouldn't all the gamblers playing in that casino become lucky. If the gamblers suddenly became lucky, wouldn't the casino start losing money and eventually go bankrupt? Grin
If the casino owner is smart, he would never follow the rules of fengshui and he will do everything he can to attract luck to himself and reduce the gambler's luck. Grin I believe that fengshui is pure superstition and all this sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.
It's true that many gamblers are superstitious and the casinos are making some changes to attract more superstitious gamblers, but I don't think that having different interior design would change your luck. At the end of the day, the casino always wins. With or without fengshui.

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I haven't understand if Feng shui is an art or not (I've heard about it on the movie "The Wolf of Wall street" the first time), but as I understand, it is correlated with Chinese superstition. I confirm that anyway, when I was in Las

Vegas 3 years ago I've seen this strange thing, and when I've asked about it to receptionist, he has given to me the same explanation that you're givin here !



The fact that online casinos comply with Feng Shui requirements when organizing the operation of a casino is quite reasonable and logical.  

Gambling is essentially a single combat with fate.  In a single combat with fate, a player cannot increase the probability of his winning by rational actions.  Logic cannot help a player win at roulette or craps.  

Therefore, many players are very superstitious.  At the same time, residents of Asian countries are more inclined to observe traditions.  They are less rational than Europeans (IMHO) .  

However, magical thinking and superstitions are now also characteristic of Europeans.  The scientific method and rationalism are out of fashion now.

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So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

Since it's luck maybe these people are finding ways how to make that luck comes to them.

Not wrong after all as what if, even though there's no explanation about it, they are really lucky to using those feng-shui practices.

I guess we just have to leave it that way and let them do what they want.

We just need to leave it that way and let them believe in something that increases their hope of winning,

There are people who act or believe like that and there's nothing to be bother they have their own mindsets about believing
in this kind of mystery or additional luck enhancement. Oh well, I don't know how to label, but to the gamblers that uses it
they are in the position that it can add winning to their gambling.

Everyone is free to do whatever they think can increase the chances of winning when gambling. As long as what we do is not breaking the gambling
rules and not cheating the casino,  it seems there is nothing to stop us from believing in the practice of Fengshui. So just do what we think can
increase our confidence to win, and something like fengshui practice that can allow us to increase our self-confidence would be very good to do.
But of course don't force others to believe what we believe, because everyone has their own way which is believed to bring luck when gambling.

You have a valid point. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to believe what they think would do good to them. If someone is a superstitious person, then be it as long as he isn't stooping on someone else's right. And as long as they are playing fair, clean, and right, we're not in the position to judge or stop them. After all, there are just people who are very traditional and we can't blame them most especially if that is the kind of upbringing they grew into.

I know a lot of people who consider Fengshui in most things particularly in financial aspect. There's no harm in actually believing or doing it if that's what they want and if that's what would bring them peace of mind. After all, in gambling, luck still plays a role so perhaps there's a little hope in them that doing such will give them higher edge and chance of winning.
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Chinese gambler will surely believe on this, and they have this tradition in almost everything not just in gambling.
There's nothing wrong if you have this ritual before you gamble, what is wrong here is if you depend on that belief and spend too much money. This is still gambling, and luck will still be the main reason why we are winning. We have this kind of tradition as well, and there's nothing to lose if you believe on this sometimes.

Believing in these kind of things won't get you hurt either because it's just a belief and we do have our distinctive body language that will make us comfortable. In the same thought, I think that some gamblers that are saying some rituals prior the activity is not a sign that they are relying on it but I see it as their way to make them more confident on the activity and as I said, will make them play more comfortable.

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Feng shui is an ancient Chinese art of arranging buildings, objects, and space in an environment to achieve harmony and balance

But do you know that Fengshui is practiced and observed in gambling and in popular casino cities? even MGM and many hotels in casinos are following Fengshui, these are just some of the examples


I think they practice feng sui not because of the casino players for them to be lucky and win but it was for their own sake for their business to get lucky and it seems effective somehow? Because we all know that most of the casinos are successful but of course that is not mostly because of the feng sui or they get lucky but it's because of the fact that casino has a major advantage over the gamblers.

About the building where they skip some numbers, that was true and happens also here on my country but I think it wasn't the number 4 that is being skipped here. They do that not because of attracting a wealth but to possibly prevent accidents.

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Feng shui is an ancient Chinese art of arranging buildings, objects, and space in an environment to achieve harmony and balance

But do you know that Fengshui is practiced and observed in gambling and in popular casino cities? even MGM and many hotels in casinos are following Fengshui, these are just some of the examples


I think they practice feng sui not because of the casino players for them to be lucky and win but it was for their own sake for their business to get lucky and it seems effective somehow? Because we all know that most of the casinos are successful but of course that is not mostly because of the feng sui or they get lucky but it's because of the fact that casino has a major advantage over the gamblers.

About the building where they skip some numbers, that was true and happens also here on my country but I think it wasn't the number 4 that is being skipped here. They do that not because of attracting a wealth but to possibly prevent accidents.
Seem like Fengshui is a symbol of good luck and strength to the players.
Or does they stay like a statue on the main door or gamblors wear it in their pendents and rings as well

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Chinese gambler will surely believe on this, and they have this tradition in almost everything not just in gambling.
There's nothing wrong if you have this ritual before you gamble, what is wrong here is if you depend on that belief and spend too much money. This is still gambling, and luck will still be the main reason why we are winning. We have this kind of tradition as well, and there's nothing to lose if you believe on this sometimes.

Believing in these kind of things won't get you hurt either because it's just a belief and we do have our distinctive body language that will make us comfortable. In the same thought, I think that some gamblers that are saying some rituals prior the activity is not a sign that they are relying on it but I see it as their way to make them more confident on the activity and as I said, will make them play more comfortable.
As long  you dont hurt others or making yourself hurt or something in between two then i dont see anything wrong with it.People are just too judgemental on what others been doing.
Just mind your own business and proceed into your own actions rather than on discriminating or teasing someones belief.If they dont hurt someone then it is really that still considerable.
Fengshui or  something in related wont really be having that effect on increasing  your chance but there were people who do really believe on these things and done something before they
do gamble and trying out to see if it does work or not but still continuing to make use of it even they are on the losing side.

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