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July 15, 2022, 09:07:19 PM
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What did i just watch . They should ban both teams and all football players forever and dont let them step on a football field ever. This kind of fixed matches are for jail. I still cannot believe they shooted like this even if the match is fixed. Insane stuff this should get sorted as fast as possible

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July 15, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.



I happened to have stumbled upon this video yesterday on Twitter and It's from Nigeria, It's a state game between two local government areas, and I don't think the fixture would have made it anywhere into the bookies, the type matches in Nigeria aren't available in the bookies because they're well aware of how corrupt it is.  The Nigeria Premier League is quite different from this and it's not free of match fixing too, but it's more often than not always favor of the home teams, and if you check properly you'll see the very low ratio of teams winning away from home, but there have some improvement from it used to be some 6-7 years ago.

Yes this is such a low league that it won't damage the industry, there's no way. It's basically some regional league in Nigeria. This is a great way for a player to thrash his reputation and shut the doors to a transfer. I once read a story about a player who was caught stealing from teammates in the dressing room and the clubs that wanted to buy him resigned from the deal. People can be so stupid, they destroy their lives for some money that wont change anything in the long run.

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July 15, 2022, 10:00:22 PM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.


That video probably hides something.  Some players purposely missed their kicks because they feel that it is unjust to take advantage of poor calls from the referee.  Yes, a sense of protest and respect for their opponent.  

So I think that video isn't clear evidence that the game was fixed unless we unravel the reasons behind that action.

Just like what happen in this video titled : Fair Play Penalty That Shocked The World

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July 15, 2022, 10:03:45 PM
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That's part of gambling and many knew it all along even before they enter gambling. The match fixing has been like the sideline of these players in those unknown leagues or lesser popular leagues.

They are barely checked because it looks like they're less important than the usual league.

As they've said, it doesn't really damage anything in gambling.

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July 15, 2022, 10:11:54 PM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.


Nothing new about fix matches and almost all of the gamblers knows about this so for sure many people are so picky on the league they are betting on. This is one of the reason why I stick on big leagues since from there we can see less things happening and never bet on small ones where this incident almost happen there. Also fix matches didn't give any bad effect on sports betting industry so you we don't need to worry anything about it.

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July 15, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
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The fact is that this kind of arrangement will always happen in some minor leagues maybe even in different parts of the world there is always something like this.
Indeed, in this case it clearly tarnishes sportsmanship but on the other hand there are some interests that they get.
Believe it or not a small league like this is always full of games and drama and not only there but in almost every small game like this there is always a lot of drama

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July 15, 2022, 10:26:58 PM
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Okay, so the Sturridge incident wasn't match fixing per say, it was breaching betting rules.

That's part of gambling and many knew it all along even before they enter gambling. The match fixing has been like the sideline of these players in those unknown leagues or lesser popular leagues.

They are barely checked because it looks like they're less important than the usual league.

As they've said, it doesn't really damage anything in gambling.
Is it part of gambling? In my opinion any self respecting bookie would void any bets made, that were lost or won due to match fixing. At least, proven by a independent body. That could be difficult, since funds would have to be frozen. Maybe, bookies should only do it to losses, and therefore void them or give them back as credit, and just take the hit on those bets that have won, to avoid freezing winnings.

It does damage the users that bet on it. If you've bet on x to win, and they throw the game, you've basically been shafted.
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July 15, 2022, 10:29:34 PM
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I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

You don't use local league to judge the professionalism of the game. When international league are played things like this can't happen under fixture matches. Even though it was predetermined for the players to miss the penalty, it won't be that obvious. Also don't take out the possibility of this happening without it been a fixed match. Players has missed clear goal scoring opportunity that are unbelievable to tte eyes, same thing has happened in penalties like the ball going far away from the goal post.

Games like this aren't available to booker, although local bets can be placed on this kind of games. Games like this are all over the world. This isn't professional football and many of the players in this kind of matched aren't professional footballers so that's why it's very easy for them to be fixed assuming it was.

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July 15, 2022, 10:48:56 PM
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It's a common thing in the lower class leagues, don't worry about it. If you are a person who likes to bet on football matches, as much as possible you should stay away from matches that are in the lower leagues. Although something like this can also happen in top-class leagues (for example the case of Juventus in the past), but it is unlikely that something like that will happen there.

cases like this video are almost impossible to happen in most leagues in each country, I know there can be one and another case of corruption and manipulated results but I doubt there are more cases like this one in this video, what we are seeing in this video is not something involving corruption because those people are smart and know that what they are doing is something obvious that everyone who will watch will realize the lack of will they are having to score goals, if it were a case of corruption or manipulation of results they would put an effort not to be discovered , they wouldn't do something ridiculous like in the video

Now, I want to ask you. Is the match in the video a Nigeria Professional Football League (NPFL) match? not of course, right? Grin

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July 15, 2022, 10:51:47 PM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.


Nothing new about fix matches and almost all of the gamblers knows about this so for sure many people are so picky on the league they are betting on. This is one of the reason why I stick on big leagues since from there we can see less things happening and never bet on small ones where this incident almost happen there. Also fix matches didn't give any bad effect on sports betting industry so you we don't need to worry anything about it.
Better not to stress yourself out because it was just really a normal thing to happen since there are really some organizers or big personalities which are involved on these arrangement but of course this
is really talking about big amounts or huge funds to be played on thats why they would normally target out small leagues because they do know that they could really possibly able to
execute those rigged gameplays and decisions and since only a few are just watching it then they wont really care most of the time but this isnt really rampant as we do talk because
even on small leauges then it is really just seldom for it to happen but literally this is the right place for them to do so.It cant be happening on huge tournaments and gameplays.

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July 15, 2022, 11:36:14 PM
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I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.
Unfortunately, this is likely a public secret, where many people have realized this but try not to reveal this. Fixed matches are general things in the sports betting of small leagues moreover. Well, many reasons are behind this, and moreover if related to the money given to certain parties, money can change many things.
Sometimes, we may feel so surprised because the matches are not what we are expecting. But that is the fixed match that sometimes can happen easily opposed to what it should be.

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July 15, 2022, 11:43:37 PM
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That's part of gambling and many knew it all along even before they enter gambling. The match fixing has been like the sideline of these players in those unknown leagues or lesser popular leagues.

They are barely checked because it looks like they're less important than the usual league.

As they've said, it doesn't really damage anything in gambling.
Is it part of gambling? In my opinion any self respecting bookie would void any bets made, that were lost or won due to match fixing. At least, proven by a independent body. That could be difficult, since funds would have to be frozen. Maybe, bookies should only do it to losses, and therefore void them or give them back as credit, and just take the hit on those bets that have won, to avoid freezing winnings.

It does damage the users that bet on it. If you've bet on x to win, and they throw the game, you've basically been shafted.
I mean that it's part of gambling in a sense that many are aware of its existence.

I've seen those bookies that have voided the entire game due to some scandals and it does happen when the respectable bookie have caught that there's anomalies for specific matches.


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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.


I don't think so it's not a World Cup, it will damage the reputation of the organizers of that events but never the whole sporting events I don't know the story behind those videos but if they will not conduct an investigation and cannot give a good explanation on what happened then people will not trust these organizers, but people will continue betting on sports events and this is just an isolated game and has nothing to do in other sports events in general.

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July 15, 2022, 11:45:08 PM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports
I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Everyone that is betting on sports results should always be aware of the fact that there will always be the risk of match fixing or other methods of game manipulation. That being said, i really don't think that we have a lot of fixed matches in the top european leagues of football (or soccer for americans), because there is just way to much money involved already. You basically had to bribe at least 4 or 5 players of one team in order to make them lose and i would guess those players would all want at least a few 100k € each in order to do that.
In smaller leagues like the one you posted or also in sports where a single athlete competes the chances for match fixes are higher.
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July 15, 2022, 11:49:24 PM
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Everyone that is betting on sports results should always be aware of the fact that there will always be the risk of match fixing or other methods of game manipulation. That being said, i really don't think that we have a lot of fixed matches in the top european leagues of football (or soccer for americans), because there is just way to much money involved already. You basically had to bribe at least 4 or 5 players of one team in order to make them lose and i would guess those players would all want at least a few 100k € each in order to do that.
In smaller leagues like the one you posted or also in sports where a single athlete competes the chances for match fixes are higher.

match fixing i believe is already part of the sports. because some of these players are really accepting such bribes. it is all because of the money involved. well, if you will think about this, and be paranoid about it, you won't enjoy betting anymore. just accept the fact that in some sports there will be situation like this. if you suspect possible fixed match, then, by all means, don't bet. unless, you want to sue those involved, if you want to go on that route.

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July 15, 2022, 11:59:57 PM
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That was one big bruh moment. I'd say it'd be better for him to go into acting but with skills like that I reckon he'd also be pretty bad at it.

That aside though, I'd want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it was an accident but... Only if it were on a idk, scale of a college or even highschool level at most. It just isn't possible to make a mistake like this in an official match when you're playing in an official match.

On the side of bookies though, I think they would've voided the bets for the entire match if match fixing were to be noticed? Cause if they didn't there's a high chance groups would take advantage of it and intentionally fix matches and make bets for profits.

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July 16, 2022, 12:12:08 AM
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As others have stated, these types of things are going to happen in sports. Based on some peoples comments here this would seem to simply be a situational thing,  not where the players are trying to throw the game. This happens in my favorite sport of NFL all the time. Teams have to do what’s best for them or the situation, regardless of how their actions effect betting lines. That’s not their job.

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Although according to reports from Nigeria, the match was not fixed. I was a protest for bad officiating. Both teams have already qualified for the Federation’s Cup, hence they had nothing to loose. But this show of shame tarnish the image of the beautiful game. This is a blatant display of disrespect and disregard for the game. Firstly, it would damage the reputation of the club, league and country. Gambling can also be affected because most people might not be aware that of the reason behind this show and others might be ignorant of match fixing. This might make them stay away from betting in such sports or league.

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July 16, 2022, 03:36:08 AM
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Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports


I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.



I can't believe that anyone kicks a penalty like that, it's really funny. regardless of the drama of what happened, but everywhere in the field of sports there is always a drama spectacle that reaps the pros and cons, especially elephant football, there are lots of match-fixing dramas, even I am not surprised by this. in the lower leagues the practice of match fixing is common, I agree it is very damaging to the image of the sport of football.

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Instead of just linking a video it is better to state or at least tell us a little what the video is about. It looks like you are talking about match manipulation and match fixing. It has been happening for years. Nothing new. It does damage the reputation of sports gambling and the entire sports, but it has almost become a normal thing, I guess? The one you showed was extreme. Usually match fixing are done discretely and no one knows about it.

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