Why it's so hard to rank-up?

[Scripture]

Higher rank means good opportunities here in the forum, but why its so hard to rank up?
Here's what I realized for almost 5 years here in the forum and still at a lower rank.

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

2. Being Inactive - Don't expect to rank up if you are not active especially on making good contents. I have my busy days and really not active but when I do have a task here, I always make sure to qualify for that but again, that's not enough.

3. Limited Knowledge - You can't share what you don't have, and making good topics here requires a good knowledge especially topics about helping people or a guidelines.


To cut this story short, if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.
These are my mistakes, and I hope you won't do the same so you can be more successful here. Right now, I'm only learning with my experience and hopefully I can give something more helpful in the future.

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[Despairo]

What does good opportunity you refer? are you mean a signature campaign?

Actually if you don't want to participate a signature campaign and only want to post in this forum, you don't need higher rank at all, just by copper membership that will allow you to attach images.

If you have created a good topic and didn't get any merit, you can post in this thread [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

Inactive doesn't mean you can't earn any merit, take a look with this both users satoshi and Hal

[tranthidung]

Higher rank means good opportunities here in the forum, but why its so hard to rank up?

It's not so hard if you know I only joined the forum a few weeks before you.

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

You can not please everyone but in this forum, if you make good posts constantly and don't give up from a good poster to a spammer, you will receive merit, a lot.

To cut this story short, if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.

You made hundred of posts that are either one-liner or mostly in spam boards like Altcoin discussions, Trading, Economics. First your posts have low quality. Second, spam boards don't catch attention of merit sources.

Bear market is bad for bounty hunters but it is good time for builders. You can start to change yourself, learn more and build your account in bear market. You don't have to make an announcement that "I am changing myself". Just do it silently and people will realize your positive changes. Merit will come after a while.

[Scripture]

What does good opportunity you refer? are you mean a signature campaign?

Yes, since signature campaign requires quality poster and if you are still not ok most probably it will be hard to land some task here.

Bear market is bad for bounty hunters but it is good time for builders. You can start to change yourself, learn more and build your account in bear market. You don't have to make an announcement that "I am changing myself". Just do it silently and people will realize your positive changes. Merit will come after a while.

Made a good point here, we should really work in silence and let the result speaks for ourselves.
Mistakes are already part of our life and what matters here, is what you will do to make things better. This will motivates me to be better at my chosen field. Appreciate this mate.

[Yogee]

Sorry if I have to play the little devil here but were you expecting to get attention and fish for merits from making this post? You only needed a few more to rank up to full member after all. No offense.

My view on this is not to think too much about rank up and just continue to engage naturally in good discussions. Think of merits as a bonus.

[Scripture]

Sorry if I have to play the little devil here but were you expecting to get attention and fish for merits from making this post? You only needed a few more to rank up to full member after all. No offense.

Sure it is, but looking at my history I already made topics here before and I'm still motivated to have more.
Just like what I've said in OP, I'm trying to be more active and be more helpful as much as possible.

Seriously, my purpose for this topic is to give tips to a newbie not to do the same mistakes I made, I didn't realize it will back-fire at me but I'm always welcome for this kind of comments. Will surely learn from this.

[LoyceV]

if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.

I'm curious what part of "expect nothing" lead to creating this topic.

Ranking up isn't difficult for people with half decent posts. Some people post on boards that don't get many Merits, and once in a while people quickly gain a few hundred Merits after they've been "highlighted" for that reason. In your case, I quickly checked your post history, and it reminded me of this:

generally it is quite easy to spot a spammer posting only for payment. Spam can come in many forms, but a typical spammer's posts will often follow some sort of pattern which will be immediately obvious upon inspection and will usually consist of one or two sentences of rehashed opinion posted as fast as possible with the minimal amount of effort being put in. A quality/constructive poster will generally have no pattern to their posting history and will have posts ranging from one word to one sentence to several paragraphs and everything in between and this is what you should be aiming for. If you find yourself in a position where you are forcing yourself to reply to a thread due to your signature campaign then that's a pretty good indication that you're likely making unsubstantial posts.

Example: post #89 (written by OP) in a topic:

Selling crypto today doesnt give you much profit and the only good thing you can do is to hold it for a while. Even holding is risky too because you dont even know when it will rise up again, how long does your patience take you and is the price goes high or even lower. All aspects of investments are risk, you cannot get rid of it.

This is what I call a "generic shitpost". It's okay to read, but doesn't add anything. Anyone with half a brain knows this already.

You now have 968 posts. Here's a challenge (which you're free to ignore):

• Go over your post history
• If a post doesn't add anything, delete it
• Create links to your best posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
• When you post there, please refer to this post (so I don't lose track if you follow up after a while)
• I'm not promising a lot of Merit, but I do promise I'll review your list (I can't get myself to read your 968 posts)

[tranthidung]

Sure it is, but looking at my history I already made topics here before and I'm still motivated to have more.
Just like what I've said in OP, I'm trying to be more active and be more helpful as much as possible.

Keep up your improvement, weeks or months later, your post quality will be much different than now. I am sure if you continue like that, you will rank up not only to Full Member but also higher rank. Now, at least for me, I will keep watching and seeing you around but not meriting you immediately.  

Seriously, my purpose for this topic is to give tips to a newbie not to do the same mistakes

Unnecessary to do so. Let's save your time, to improve yourself.

There are enough resources (sticky threads and other guide threads like yours) for newbies to read. Their problem is they ignore all of that at beginning. If they ignore forum rules, sticky threads, they will ignore yours as well.

[Scripture]

You now have 968 posts. Here's a challenge (which you're free to ignore):

• Go over your post history
• If a post doesn't add anything, delete it
• Create links to your best posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
• When you post there, please refer to this post (so I don't lose track if you follow up after a while)
• I'm not promising a lot of Merit, but I do promise I'll review your list (I can't get myself to read your 968 posts)

Will start working on this challenge and I'll surely make time for this.
Not to aim for that merit but I know this can help me a lot, I just need to focus on learning things and be on the right track.
Again, thank you for this kind of motivation.

Seriously, my purpose for this topic is to give tips to a newbie not to do the same mistakes

Unnecessary to do so. Let's save your time, to improve yourself.

Maybe this is just another mistake. 

[DdmrDdmr]

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Regardless of the factual objective, or sometimes because of it, ranking-up to the lower levels I’d say is relatively easy, but it does become harder to reach the top tier ranks, kind of what is expected as the number of require Merits is higher and one generally needs to provide better content.

Staying active per se is not necessarily part of the deal, but rather more what one does in that time. One will normally need to dedicate a fair share of time reading here and there, contrasting, and in general, developing a certain edge or criteria that helps him to expose, query, criticize or whatever in a more meaningful manner.
I recently encountered a given account that was "very active" on the forum. He managed to make over 44 in just over three hours, saying absolutely nothing of value. The case is obviously a serial spammer, but likely, if he’d spent those three hours reading through and cross-referencing information here and there, he’d be better positioned to make at least two or three meaningful posts within the same timeframe.

I’ve been merited on 2.711 posts out of 10.133 posts. That means that 73,25% of my posts have not been merited. By that I mean that, even for accounts that do receive merits with a certain frequency, it’s seemingly more normal by far not to get merited than to get merited, something that I often sense is expected the other way around by many.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

What you called good topic might be average to the users you intended to get merited from because they must have seen either the exact same or similar topic numerous time. That been said, don't create your content to pleased anyone, create them because you feel it's right to pass that information to the community. Don't be waiting for any validation, we have hundreds of users rank up so ranking up is no longer a big deal as before when people thought the merit circulation was been targeted at certain users.

You must not be a genius to rank up or have to know it all. Just been consistent can help you go a long way as you can also learn from the conversation you engage in. We have many intellectual members that don't have as much merits as others that can't stand toe to toe with them, if there was a contest of who knows it more in the industry so it isn't always about the knowledge. Just be helpful when a member needs such and be genuinely interested in engaging in quality conversation instead of merit hurting conversation.

[Shamm]

You must keep improving OP to reach a high rank don't stop posting quality thread or replies because if someone see your effort or reply with a hood quality for sure they give you merit.  All you need to do right now is to improve your posting style give some effort and dedication when you are creating a topic then for sure someone will give you.


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 And if you think that you have a topic that. worthy enough to have merit but did not get then you can post it on link provided above by our forum mates
 

[Eureka_07]

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It is hard to rank up here if the user is not posting replies/topics that are helpful, relevant, funny, or any factors that might be able for someone to give merit(s) to the post.
Generally, users need to have knowledge to be acknowledged and be able to potentially aquire some merits given that these merits are subjectively or objectively given.

[isaac_clarke22]

I mean if user is here just to join discussion, ranking up shouldn't be like something to be worried of.
If you mean "good opportunities" as "earning" here in the forum, then there's absolutely plenty of better opportunities outside the forum and that would be better than just pursuing those shit bounties.

[m2017]

Higher rank means good opportunities here in the forum, but why its so hard to rank up?
Here's what I realized for almost 5 years here in the forum and still at a lower rank.

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

2. Being Inactive - Don't expect to rank up if you are not active especially on making good contents. I have my busy days and really not active but when I do have a task here, I always make sure to qualify for that but again, that's not enough.

3. Limited Knowledge - You can't share what you don't have, and making good topics here requires a good knowledge especially topics about helping people or a guidelines.


To cut this story short, if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.
These are my mistakes, and I hope you won't do the same so you can be more successful here. Right now, I'm only learning with my experience and hopefully I can give something more helpful in the future.

"Why it's so hard to rank-up?" - if it was easy, it would not be interesting to rank-up. The whole beauty of this challenge (in my opinion) is in overcoming difficulties (like being too lazy to write constructive posts) and reaching new levels (new ranks and merit marks - 700, 800, etc).

1. - You don't have to try to please everyone. If you write well, there will always be those who will appreciate it. Try to be yourself.

2. - If you don't show activity, then as a result you will get "nothing". This happens everywhere. On this forum as well.

3. - So what's the problem? Expand your horizons and try new directions.

This topic sounds like "cry about the inability to increase the rank." I don't want to offend Scripture, but I see it that way. If your actions don't bring the desired result, then try to change something.

You are very close to Full member, and this may well be achieved. So don't despair.

From myself I will leave +1 merit for the effort.

[acroman08]

Inactive doesn't mean you can't earn any merit, take a look with this both users satoshi and Hal

I mean those two are a huge part of bitcoin history and this forum so I am not surprised if they got a lot of merits from old members and new members of the forum despite not posting anything for a long time. but yeah, you can still get merit even if you are inactive IF you have a post/thread that is extremely helpful to other members.

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

there are threads that give merit to unmerited high-quality or helpful posts. if you think you have posts that deserve some merit you should participate in those threads.

[nakamura12]

It is not that hard to rank up if you ask me. I managed to get the total merits I have today and it's not because of an opportunity where I can earn merits. I did put an effort to contribute in this forum and I finally did it. You must believe that you can do it too and soon you will ranked up higher than the rank you have right now. You need few merits now to ranked up. Good luck with the milestone that you are aiming to achieve.

[Rengga Jati]

Higher rank means good opportunities here in the forum, but why its so hard to rank up?
Here's what I realized for almost 5 years here in the forum and still at a lower rank.

I saw your profile and you are actually in the process of ranking up, be patient mate, it is just a matter of time, only need merits again to rank up.
I also have ever been in your position, and likely I considered creating good posts, but I know that other people consider whether my posts deserve merits or not. We all here need process and continuity. So, don't be tired to make contributive and good posts so that you can get what you want someday.
Although it may be difficult to rank up, as long as you always do good, you may next deserve the merits again.

[qwertyup23]

To cut this story short, if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.
These are my mistakes, and I hope you won't do the same so you can be more successful here. Right now, I'm only learning with my experience and hopefully I can give something more helpful in the future.

I think the best thing is that you should always expect nothing in return, yet you feel satisfied in contributing to the whole forum. It is like a real-life donation, you give everything but expect nothing in return. If you see someone returned the favor, then you will feel as if you did everything you could which is more satisfying.

The problem with most newbies is that they see this forum 'purely' as a way to earn. While that may be true enough, they fail to see the bigger picture and the purpose on why Satoshi created this forum in the first place- which is to discuss BTC!

[2stout]

It's hard to rank-up because it takes time, work, patience, and some dedication.  But figuring out opportunities and also posting quality content topics will go a long way in closing the gap.  See this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333.0