Green trusted user vouching for shady site

[LoyceV]

Considering how Royse777's casino promotion ended in him being tagged by several DT-members, I'm curious what the community thinks of the following:

A week ago, Gianluca95 (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) created a signature campaign with "Trusted and Safe BTC Mixing" in the title. That's a very strong vouch, without any proof whatsoever. Gianluca95 refers to their ANN thread, in which it was mentioned 5 days before the signature campaign was started that there's no reason to trust this site.

The user (Shaker_finance) who promotes the site shows red flags that I've seen many times before. Typically, this is how a scammer respond when someone doubts their legitimacy.

Some examples:

Trusted and safe bitcoin mixing solutions

I don't trust sites that claim to be trusted. That's up to the users to decide.

Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts

It sounds like they don't want to share yet at what amount they'll pull an exit scam.

Those are stats from our tests. Try to make mix you will see that they're dynamic. The problem is that we almost don't have users yet that's why stats are fixed atm

Hardcoded "live mixing", I've seen that before. Needless to say: that mixer pulled an exit scam.

Sgning is not safe

He's either hiding his lack of funds, or he found a massive vulnerability in Bitcoin! My money is on the former.

we will deposit soon around 40-50k$ on forums deposits, including wwh-club, exploit, xss and some others where we have advertisement or planning to have it, arranging this moment with project investors

Right. Some third party future action is supposed to convince us now that the site is safe.

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts

Sgning is not safe

Combining those two statements is a very big red flag. Signing a message is an established method to provide proof of funds. Claiming you have "unlimited" amounts and refusing to prove even a tiny 10BTC balance doesn't inspire confidence.

signing is not safe that's correct

Bitcoin mixers rely on trust. Lying is the one thing a Bitcoin mixer should never do. I've seen signed messages from addresses holding thousands of Bitcoins, and they didn't get stolen.

claiming unlimited and 20 BTC was actually the same to us

Right....

Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here

I've seen this before too: using large numbers to convince people, instead of a simple signed message. Anyone can make up a large number, not many people can sign a message from such an Bitcoin address.

I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations.

There's the excuses, always nice to see the team goes on vacation right after launching.

And there's the character attacks:

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

only you lie here, I say how it works
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you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

what's not clear here ??!!!!! You lie here only and try to interpret my words absolutely other way for some reason

You are piece of shit spamming on my topic, ~ I try to be polite with people but not with assholes
~stop this bullshit flood on this topic
~you start behaving aggressive

This kind of language typically comes from scammers who see their "business model" evaporate. I've seen it so many times.

I don't care what you think at all and I'm professional until people start behaving way aggressive. ~ Toxic commentators are nowhere welcomed

And there's Trust abuse:


When this site scams someone, which I think is quite likely to happen, will Gianluca95 take the fall for them and get tagged?

Just 3 days ago (4 days after Gianluca95 started the signature campaign), he left Royse777 the following positive feedback:

Trustworthy user that have always worked correctly. A great signature campaign manager and a great communicator. I like his style. Forum needs more member like him.

I don't know what to make of this.

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[Poker Player]

When this site scams someone, which I think is quite likely to happen, will Gianluca95 take the fall for them and get tagged?

I think it depends, because these things are not black and white. According to what you say and what I have seen in Ann, there are many points that make me distrust the mixing service, but if we are talking about the campaign manager, we would have to see, for example, what degree of involvement he has had. If he has presented himself as a potential parter of the service, for example as it happened in the case of Royse777 or he has simply been hired for the signature campaign.We also know that there are many people in DT who do not necessarily have the same vision of things. So he can be tagged by some and defended by others.

With all the respect I have for you, it seems to me that this question you are asking comes more from a certain empathy towards Royse777, than from a purely objective analysis of the situation.

BTW, I've just seen that Gianluca95 left positive feedback to Royse777 recently.

[Z-tight]

When this site scams someone, which I think is quite likely to happen, will Gianluca95 take the fall for them and get tagged?

No, because this is what Gianluca95 said in the campaign thread, and it it clear for member's of the forum to see:

*I am only managing the campaign. I am not affiliated with this service. I just look at your posts.

[yahoo62278]

This could be misinterpreted due to your sig and cause a huge flame war between that company and yourself. That being said, I believe you have a genuine care for the forum and it's participants so it's a non issue for me.

My feeling, you think a site is going to screw someone does not mean that they will screw someone. What we have seen in the past doesn't mean this site is the same. It could 100% be the same, I'm not saying that. Until they do scam, there shouldn't be a thread like this right?

It's a really good subject to bring up and I'm super curious as to what everyone else is going to say here. On one hand, by saying you/me/us feel this site is going to scam, you are looking out for the communities safety. On the other hand you are being libelous and damaging that sites reputation without any proof the site has/will scam. So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?


Far as Gianluca goes he has been launching a bunch of small 1 week campaigns which are useless to the companies. I'm not sure if he is just thinking of his pocket or has a genuine thought that a super small 1 week campaign helps a company. I don't know if he would reject an offer from a company at this point. He has yet to prove himself is what I'm saying.

In the past, if a red flag pops up, it has been fine for a manager to close the campaign and all the animosity is towards the site not the manager.

With all the respect I have for you, it seems to me that this question you are asking comes more from a certain empathy towards Royse777, than from a purely objective analysis of the situation.

This is interesting as well. I had no bad feelings towards Royse myself until I stared reading their replies in the Bitlucy thread and in their thread on the subject. Royse was responding full of anger and attacking users and I felt attacking myself which is why I washed my hands of the situation.

You guys can like or dislike whomever you want, but still have to be objective when having/giving your opinion. I liked masterp til the scumbag stole 5 bitcoins from me.

[LoyceV]

If he has presented himself as a potential parter of the service, for example as it happened in the case of Royse777 or he has simply been hired for the signature campaign.

I'd say there's a difference between a "xx Signature Campaign" and a "Trusted and Safe xx Signature Campaign".

it seems to me that this question you are asking comes more from a certain empathy towards Royse777, than from a purely objective analysis of the situation.

I've added the part that triggered me to add Royse777's case:

Just 3 days ago (4 days after Gianluca95 started the signature campaign), he left Royse777 the following positive feedback:

Trustworthy user that have always worked correctly. A great signature campaign manager and a great communicator. I like his style. Forum needs more member like him.

I don't know what to make of this.

My main reason to create the topic wasn't Royse777, but it's a green trusted user who promotes a site who's ANN I've been following in the past weeks. Also, it's too early for a scam accusation, hence the topic in Reputation. And I needed a Reference link for neutral feedback.

No, because this is what Gianluca95 said in the campaign thread, and it it clear for member's of the forum to see:

*I am only managing the campaign. I am not affiliated with this service. I just look at your posts.

Thanks for adding this. I checked for it, but only at the bottom (and clearly didn't read the entire Notes).
Still, I can't agree with adding "Trusted and Safe" to the title.

Until they do scam, there shouldn't be a thread like this right?

I'm not sure.

On the other hand you are being libelous and damaging that sites reputation without any proof the site has/will scam.

I really like eddie13's take on this:

Should never have put the temporary illusion of safety above personal liberty..
ie tagging and chasing away “likely scammers” and crushing the unique economic dynamic

(quote taken slightly out of context)

So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

I'm not sure. That's why my feedback is neutral. I believe the risk deserves a warning.

[Shaker_finance]

What goes on now is that mixer tries to start working and some of the for sure weird participants of the forum don't want it to work because they think it's not worth to be trusted, without reasons, just simple judgement. I consider that absolutely abnormal, you may say that any mixer is not trusted because you only think it's not trusted

Signature campaign is more about marketing, yes we want to become trusted mixer and we make company to look trustworthy, that's normal. We ordered company for 1 month for now

[Little Mouse]

I don't think both case of Royse777 and Gianluca95 is same. Gianluca95 is only working as campaign manager though some things could be different and they must step up on such an issue. Gianluca95 should look at this case and decide whether or not to run the campaign anymore.

So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

I'm not sure. That's why my feedback is neutral. I believe the risk deserves a warning.

I believe it too. This deserves a warning. Shaker Finance looked shady from the very beginning of their journey here. As I mentioned earlier, they are nowhere near to a professional business which the community must know to avoid potential risk. Have added neutral feedback too.

[yahoo62278]

What goes on now is that mixer tries to start working and some of the for sure weird participants of the forum don't want it to work because they think it's not worth to be trusted, without reasons, just simple judgement. I consider that absolutely abnormal, you may say that any mixer is not trusted because you only think it's not trusted

Signature campaign is more about marketing, yes we want to become trusted mixer and we make company to look trustworthy, that's normal. We ordered company for 1 month for now

To be fair, your responses to others have probably not helped your situation. This is not how a professional would want to act if they expect to be in business for a longtime.

You are one more retard liar asshole. So when you sign you can't take those 20 BTC ?? WTF is this bullshit you are writing. You may sign and then easily take those 20 BTC same way.

If you don't trust - stay away and don't use mixer, no one makes you trust it okay

I don't care what you think at all and I'm professional until people start behaving way aggressive. All things were explained with pros and cons. We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. Toxic commentators are nowhere welcomed

I told you that we had topic opened, after few days it had gone for review until they get deposit, what's not clear here ??!!!!! You lie here only and try to interpret my words absolutely other way for some reason

You are piece of shit spamming on my topic, that's what is going on now, and yes I try to be polite with people but not with assholes

Okay don't use Shaker.finance mixer because it won't sign address but stop this bullshit flood on this topic



We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive

[Shaker_finance]

I don't think both case of Royse777 and Gianluca95 is same. Gianluca95 is only working as campaign manager though some things could be different and they must step up on such an issue. Gianluca95 should look at this case and decide whether or not to run the campaign anymore.

So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

I'm not sure. That's why my feedback is neutral. I believe the risk deserves a warning.

I believe it too. This deserves a warning. Shaker Finance looked shady from the very beginning of their journey here. As I mentioned earlier, they are nowhere near to a professional business which the community must know to avoid potential risk. Have added neutral feedback too.

It's only your personal dislike and the thing that you noticed couple spelling mistakes upon launch. That's it nothing else

What goes on now is that mixer tries to start working and some of the for sure weird participants of the forum don't want it to work because they think it's not worth to be trusted, without reasons, just simple judgement. I consider that absolutely abnormal, you may say that any mixer is not trusted because you only think it's not trusted

Signature campaign is more about marketing, yes we want to become trusted mixer and we make company to look trustworthy, that's normal. We ordered company for 1 month for now

To be fair, your responses to others have probably not helped your situation. This is not how a professional would want to act if they expect to be in business for a longtime.

You are one more retard liar asshole. So when you sign you can't take those 20 BTC ?? WTF is this bullshit you are writing. You may sign and then easily take those 20 BTC same way.

If you don't trust - stay away and don't use mixer, no one makes you trust it okay

I don't care what you think at all and I'm professional until people start behaving way aggressive. All things were explained with pros and cons. We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. Toxic commentators are nowhere welcomed

I told you that we had topic opened, after few days it had gone for review until they get deposit, what's not clear here ??!!!!! You lie here only and try to interpret my words absolutely other way for some reason

You are piece of shit spamming on my topic, that's what is going on now, and yes I try to be polite with people but not with assholes

Okay don't use Shaker.finance mixer because it won't sign address but stop this bullshit flood on this topic



We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive

Read pls from what it has started, what they wrote first and why I responded that way not another.
I won't be professional when people try to call me liar without reasons, whatever

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[LoyceV]

This could be misinterpreted due to your sig and cause a huge flame war between that company and yourself.

I don't really worry about such accusations. I've seen other mixers that didn't give me a single reason to doubt their intentions. It's not as if I'm accusing all of them without any reason to be suspicious.

of the for sure weird participants of the forum don't want it to work because they think it's not worth to be trusted

Trust is earned, not claimed.

retarded participants of the forum
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we want to become trusted

Right.

[Z-tight]

No, because this is what Gianluca95 said in the campaign thread, and it it clear for member's of the forum to see:

*I am only managing the campaign. I am not affiliated with this service. I just look at your posts.

Thanks for adding this. I checked for it, but only at the bottom (and clearly didn't read the entire Notes).
Still, I can't agree with adding "Trusted and Safe" to the title.

Do you have a problem only with the title and how shaker_finance replied to you in their Ann thread? If that is the problem, then there is no-problem, the mixer have approached Gianluca to run their campaign here for them, they have told him that they are trusted and safe, and he has included it in their campaign thread, there's been nothing to the contrary since the campaign launched, have there? If they indeed as your feelings tell you, screw people, then all Gianluca needs to do is to close the thread, and take what he said about them down, he already told us he isn't affiliated with their service. Gianluca is endorsing the company that has hired him, that is why he has included "safe and trusted" in the thread, he has not compelled any member to use them. You said this a while ago in another thread LoyceV

With your reputation and influence, if you introduce me to a site to invest in and also assure me that the owner of the site is your boyhood friend, I will invest 100% without hesitation, because I doubt you would be stupid to introduce a scam site on the forum and if I end up being scammed, it will be on you LoyceV because of your huge influence.

That's stupid not the smartest thing to do! Did you also invest in [ANN][ICO]HoweyCoins: the only BitcoinTalk-endorsed ICO - GUARANTEED PROFIT? It's literally the only ICO endorsed by theymos!

Seriously though: this is exactly why people lose their money on Twitter when someone's account gets hacked again. They just hand it over the the scammers.
This is the internet. I wouldn't trust investment advice from professionals. After all, why would they need my money if they're that good? So don't trust random people on the internet.

[dkbit98]

Just 3 days ago (4 days after Gianluca95 started the signature campaign), he left Royse777 the following positive feedback

I really don't know why you are again involving Royse777 in this story, when other people also gave him positive feedback recently, like Hhampuz for example and one more manager...

Hhampuz

2022-07-08

Trustworthy user that I would never doubt when it comes to deals/escrow business on this forum, as well as campaign management. Proven trackrecord of running campaigns/managing charity that helped out people with real issues during COVID and overall a good guy. A+ Forum member!

When this site scams someone, which I think is quite likely to happen, will Gianluca95 take the fall for them and get tagged?

I didn't want to give any attention and feedback to Shaker Finance, but after doing some research and asking simple questions, they started with insults.
Just to make it clear, I am not affected at all with words coming from other people, but I made legitimate questions, suggestion and his answer was insults.
This is a clear red flag for me so I decided to give them temporary red flag as a warning to newbies to be careful with this website.
I never said they are 100% scam, but they are high risk and everyone should be careful using this website for mixing coins.
I am thinking of starting new topic dedicated for Shaker Finance, when I collect more information.

On one hand, by saying you/me/us feel this site is going to scam, you are looking out for the communities safety. On the other hand you are being libelous and damaging that sites reputation without any proof the site has/will scam. So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

You are being a bit of hypocrite here because you recently gave Royse777 a negative feedback intentionally without having any proof, and claiming he didn't ''clean his name'' whatever that means.
So if someone calls you a piece of shit and stupid retard that is not reason to think that some website is potential scam, but when you are constantly beating the dead horse with Royse, you can give him negative feedback... that is your logic.

[Shaker_finance]

Just 3 days ago (4 days after Gianluca95 started the signature campaign), he left Royse777 the following positive feedback

I really don't know why you are again involving Royse777 in this story, when other people also gave him positive feedback recently, like Hhampuz for example and one more manager...

Hhampuz

2022-07-08

Trustworthy user that I would never doubt when it comes to deals/escrow business on this forum, as well as campaign management. Proven trackrecord of running campaigns/managing charity that helped out people with real issues during COVID and overall a good guy. A+ Forum member!

When this site scams someone, which I think is quite likely to happen, will Gianluca95 take the fall for them and get tagged?

I didn't want to give any attention and feedback to Shaker Finance, but after doing some research and asking simple questions, they started with insults.
Just to make it clear, I am not affected at all with words coming from other people, but I made legitimate questions, suggestion and his answer was insults.
This is a clear red flag for me so I decided to give them temporary red flag as a warning to newbies to be careful with this website.
I never said they are 100% scam, but they are high risk and everyone should be careful using this website for mixing coins.
I am thinking of starting new topic dedicated for Shaker Finance, when I collect more information.

On one hand, by saying you/me/us feel this site is going to scam, you are looking out for the communities safety. On the other hand you are being libelous and damaging that sites reputation without any proof the site has/will scam. So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

You are being a bit of hypocrite here because you recently gave Royse777 a negative feedback intentionally without having any proof, and claiming he didn't ''clean his name''.
So if someone calls you a piece of shit and stupid retard that is not reason to think that some website is potential scam, but when you are constantly beating the dead horse with Royse, you can give him negative feedback... that is your logic.

Check topic first, take a quick look at where you've tried to call me liar few times when I explained you on forum deposits and delete this message you've just created. Reasonable response to aggression

[yahoo62278]

On one hand, by saying you/me/us feel this site is going to scam, you are looking out for the communities safety. On the other hand you are being libelous and damaging that sites reputation without any proof the site has/will scam. So is it better to accuse and say sorry later? Or better to let a company be until they assrape someone for a huge chunk?

You are being a bit of hypocrite here because you recently gave Royse777 a negative feedback intentionally without having any proof, and claiming he didn't ''clean his name'' whatever that means.
So if someone calls you a piece of shit and stupid retard that is not reason to think that some website is potential scam, but when you are constantly beating the dead horse with Royse, you can give him negative feedback... that is your logic.

You're very wrong here bud. Royse had claimed to be a partner and the site had some questionable issues pop up. Rather then answer users with a cool head, Royse decided to be a big asshole to anyone who had questioned them. Same as this mixing service if ya ask me, just plain unprofessional.

Then Royse opens the thread explaining their side. If you bothered to read the thread, I was very empathetic and was supporting them at 1st. Then, Royse decided instead of answering a few questions and trying to clear up my concerns, to attack me and basically say I was stealing their business. I'm sorry but that company contacted me, I didn't contact them. If ya act like a baby, i'll treat ya like 1. Royse fucked up and instead of handling the heat, they decided to make it personal. If they wanna act that way then I have no more use for the situation. Maybe an apology from Royse should happen.

dkbit98 we are off topic here and if you have a problem with me and need to start a thread, by all means do it. Or pm me and see if we can figure out your issue. Otherwise get off my nuts.

[dkbit98]

Check topic first, take a quick look at where you've tried to call me liar few times when I explained you on forum deposits and delete this liar message you've just created

I stand by my words.
You are a LIAR, and everyone can see your speculations and insults for us 1$ Chipmixer members, that was talking about us looking from above like we are some gipsy beggars.
If you properly did some research you could see that Chipmixers paid much more for their years long campaign, and they have been much more open than you.

Let me conclude with claims I made in your topic:

1. Unlimited amount of coins ✔️  (later changed partially)
2. Exploit forum link posted ✔️ (later removed)
3. 1$ lie ✔️ (Chipmixer campaign)

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

You're very wrong here bud. Royse had claimed to be a partner and the site had some questionable issues pop up. Rather then answer users with a cool head, Royse decided to be a big asshole to anyone who had questioned them. Same as this mixing service if ya ask me, just plain unprofessional.

I followed situation with him from start, and you can see that I criticized him and asked about that partnership.
Did he handled everything in a bad way, sure he did, but he didn't deserve you jumping on his head with Jolly and giving him negative feedback, not to mention taking over his campaign...
I don't have any problem with you, and I said I don't understand why Royse was again involved in this story.

[Shaker_finance]

Check topic first, take a quick look at where you've tried to call me liar few times when I explained you on forum deposits and delete this liar message you've just created

I stand by my words.
You are a LIAR, and everyone can see your speculations and insults for us 1$ Chipmixer members, that was talking about us looking from above like we are some gipsy beggars.
If you properly did some research you could see that Chipmixers paid much more for their years long campaign, and they have been much more open than you.

Let me conclude with claims I made in your topic:

1. Unlimited amount of coins ✔️  (letter changed partially)
2. Exploit forum link posted ✔️ (later removed)
3. 1$ lie ✔️ (Chipmixer campaign)

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

1. 20 BTC amount is close to be unlimited per mix, you fail here, next
2. Exploit link posted then deleted because thread is awating deposit (What's wrong with it again I reject that or what )
3. 1-2$ not lie, it's price paid for signature campaign for full members for example and yes it's close to average price

Your points are bullshit again, try one more time, my kiddo LIAR girl

[Poker Player]

Do you have a problem only with the title and how shaker_finance replied to you in their Ann thread? If that is the problem, then there is no-problem, the mixer have approached Gianluca to run their campaign here for them, they have told him that they are trusted and safe, and he has included it in their campaign thread, there's been nothing to the contrary since the campaign launched, have there? If they indeed as your feelings tell you, screw people, then all Gianluca needs to do is to close the thread, and take what he said about them down, he already told us he isn't affiliated with their service. Gianluca is endorsing the company that has hired him, that is why he has included "safe and trusted" in the thread, he has not compelled any member to use them. You said this a while ago in another thread LoyceV

I think you hit the nail on the head. Twice in your two responses in this thread. I have not given you merit because I am out atm.

-snip

Your ways of answering make me distrust you, as yahoo62278 told you before. That is no way to respond if you manage a business.

You have a lot to learn from this one:  SCAM EXCHANGE MONITOR: BestChange

[LoyceV]

If that is the problem, then there is no-problem, the mixer have approached Gianluca to run their campaign here for them, they have told him that they are trusted and safe, and he has included it in their campaign thread

Obviously they're not going to say they're not trusted and unsafe, but clearly they're not trusted. I'd expect a campaign manager to see through that, instead of copying the claim.

Gianluca is endorsing the company that has hired him, that is why he has included "safe and trusted" in the thread

In my book, it takes a lot more than getting paid to endorse a company.

[Shaker_finance]

If that is the problem, then there is no-problem, the mixer have approached Gianluca to run their campaign here for them, they have told him that they are trusted and safe, and he has included it in their campaign thread

Obviously they're not going to say they're not trusted and unsafe, but clearly they're not trusted. I'd expect a campaign manager to see through that, instead of copying the claim.

Gianluca is endorsing the company that has hired him, that is why he has included "safe and trusted" in the thread

In my book, it takes a lot more than getting paid to endorse a company.

Okay let's go and change it to not trusted and not safe mixer lol and make signature campaign.

Signature campaign is actually marketing activity and it's only aim is to get as many click as possible.
And yes we want to become trusted mixer but it won't happen within 1 week or 1 month. It's matter of time

[dkbit98]

20 BTC amount is close to be unlimited per mix, you fail here, next

You can't prove ownership of 20 BTC that probably don't even exist, and it's far from unlimited amount, but I guess you need to finish math class in school for that.
Important thing to mention here is that you changed that amount after I asked several uncomfortable questions about that.

Here is archived post:

Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any
...
Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly

https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669

Your points are bullshit again, try one more time, my kiddo LIAR girl

Fuck off really you are one more retard liar asshole.

https://ninjastic.space/post/60583339

And this ladies ang gentleman is behavior of a grown man and ''trusted'' mixer businessman  

I am not going to reply anymore to your messages, and I have you on ignore.
Good luck.