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Gambling is part of Chinese culture. It is seen as the right way to test luck, especially on holidays like Chinese New Year, as well as to get rid of bad luck. link-I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck. this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?
slightly diverting from the topic above, I'm interested in Mark Griffiths' research; Mark Griffiths, a psychologist at Nottingham Trent University who specializes in addictive behavior says that gamblers have a lot of motivation for their habit. In a survey of 5,500 gamblers, the prospect of “winning big money” was the strongest factor. But then followed by "because it's fun" and "because it's fun".
"Even when you lose a gamble, your body still produces adrenaline and endorphins," he says.
“People buy entertainment.”
Not much is known about the design of these machines on player behavior, but, for example, many machines and casinos use red or something similar – which is considered more stimulating.
And interestingly, there are examples of cases where gamblers develop “shadow-skills” as a justification for earning those possible rewards.
Griffiths gave the example of a game engine in the UK which was designed with the adaptive logic in mind that the device would deliver more than the consumer was given over a period of time, and after that the device would return to the normal system.
This means that some players will try to find (or “skim”) machines that have not hit the jackpot, hoping they will be there when the machine hits the jackpot.
All of these research findings conclude that gambling is not always about winning, but rather the process of betting – and the other factors surrounding it that make it fun.
Although gambling addiction cannot be explained simply – sometimes there are many reasons that lead to addiction in a person – but it is certainly interesting to see how the fun is related to the structure and style of the game played.
And even when gambling isn't a problematic obsession, it's still entertaining for those who go home with empty pockets. link-I am interested in making this topic because the debate between gambling for money or entertainment is still very long, now I add that some people gamble to practice skills and also because it has become their culture (like the Chinese people)
btw, if you have a lot of free time you should read this topic too;
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July 19, 2022, 06:51:45 PM |
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We have a thread The History Of Gambling. And it shows that the ancient Chinese are one of the forefathers of gambling. So obviously, I will agree that it is part of their culture already. So I'm not shock by the article, they've been into gambling that really someone will what to test their luck to see if they are indeed going to get rich through gambling or have some money. And yeah, we've also discussed the entertaining aspect of it, for pure joy and fun, like playing roulettes or slot machines.
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July 19, 2022, 08:07:01 PM |
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I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.
Is the reward for best of luck not money, how can we say the gamble not for money? do they forfeit the money if they turn out lucky and win in gambling? That is a detail to the story i am interested in knowing. For me, my culture says nothing about gambling and doesn't require me to try anything to prove my luck. For the Chinese, I don't think it is a must for everyone. You will be inclined to try out your luck gambling if you subscribe to your culture and it's practice, but if you have been westernised, and do not subscribe to culture, even if you gamble still, your intentions will be more than juat wanting to try out your luck.
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July 19, 2022, 08:31:20 PM |
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Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.
The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.
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July 19, 2022, 10:58:17 PM |
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...this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?
"part of culture" doesn't necessarily mean "required". It's a huge influence why they gamble but it's not like someone is putting a gun in their head if any of them refuses to play. but it is certainly interesting to see how the fun is related to the structure and style of the game played. A lot of people gamble and just treat it as a past time so it's not surprising that games were designed to be fun. I think they also understand that every gambler doesn't really aim for the "big money" from the start. It's all entertainment in their early days of gambling.
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July 19, 2022, 11:34:26 PM |
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Chinese have their own collection of stereotypes and superstitions. The number 4 is considered unlucky to them. They avoid living in apartments with the #4. They avoid eating hot or cold food depending on the time of day. They have a number of quirks that are interesting.
The biggest revenue stream in video gaming is micro transaction based coupled with loot boxes. Many game developers were forced to abandon lootboxes due to it being regulated under gambling. But casinos and gambling institutions have no such limitation. I like the idea of expanding on small cap gambling for those who wish only to "test their luck".
Its very negative when someone loses a life changing amount of money gambling. If a person loses $20,000 that is terrible.
Small cap gambling involving very small amounts of money are a healthier precedent. It may also be more profitable if people know they will be protected from losing larger sums of money under a micro transaction and extreme low minimum wager environment.
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July 20, 2022, 12:35:09 AM |
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this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?
I don't mind giving it a go even if it's a requirement or not as long as there's a way to not spend too much money on gambling. I sometimes do the same but instead of the jackpots for me, it's the live RTPs as some casinos are showing them on most third-party slot games and it could be one of the deciding factors to play or switch to another game since you'd rather look for another game that pays out more than the other.
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I don't get the "trying your luck via gambling" thing. You could try your luck without betting money on it. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Unfortunately most of the people gamble because of that hidden subconscious thought that they will make a "big hit" and they will win big money without any efforts. This is basically your "monkey mind" playing tricks on you. I remember that the subconscious mind was called "monkey mind" by buddhism and keeping your monkey mind under control is the most important part of growing as a person. I'm no expert in Chinese culture and we have to ask some Chinese guy about the theory of gambling being a big part of Chinese culture. My culture definitely doesn't require me to gamble. Gambling is still viewed as a bad thing where I live, despite many people visiting the offline casinos and playing lottery.
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Judging by a Chinese proverb that says something like this, that if you don't gamble, you will never be able to find out how lucky you are, then yes, this tradition is to try your luck for yourself, but again, it doesn't oblige you to anything. The population of Macau is about 700,000 people, but at the same time it is visited by almost 40 million tourists a year and the majority are Chinese residents.
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July 20, 2022, 08:09:17 AM |
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Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.
The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.
Yes, the Chinese are very gamblers. What is it connected with? China is a very ancient country that has existed for about 5,000 years. This is a country in which the central government has always been very strong. The inhabitants of China had few civil rights and freedoms, the value of an individual human life in China has always been low. All this brought up fatalism in the Chinese. That is why the Chinese are very fond of gambling. Gambling is an opportunity to enter into combat with fate and at least for a moment get out of a strictly defined social role. An ant in an anthill cannot defy fate and try its luck. But a person can. The gambling of the Chinese is very clearly manifested in the topic of cryptocurrencies. It was the people of China who propamped the initial price of the EOS token from $0.85 to $6 in June 2017. This is why the Chinese government prohibits and restricts cryptocurrencies and gambling.
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What caught my eye is that they are referring to it as something to get rid of bad luck when you are for example losing money and to test your good luck when you are winning.If all gamblers had this philosophy in mind then most probably very few of them would be addicted as when they lose money instead of going back to try and get the lost money they would think finally I got rid of bad luck so let's find something new where to spend the remaining money.Also when they win they should call it a day and be thankful for their good luck.A really interesting article indeed.
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July 20, 2022, 08:46:19 AM |
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Luck is really on their DNA, I mean during Chinese new year, they have fire crackers to wad off unlucky spirits. So that is gambling for them, in their tradition and wherever to go, North America or Chinese Asia, still the same as far as luck and gambling goes. So probably there is some truth that they are going to try everything to test out their luck and whatever it bring them good fortunes or not.
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I am interested in making this topic because the debate between gambling for money or entertainment is still very long, now I add that some people gamble to practice skills and also because it has become their culture (like the Chinese people)
For sure, this topic is not going to end, for pure money and entertainment it really depend on the individual itself. But for the Chinese people gambling is on a totally different level for them as it is part of every facets of their lives already. So yeah, maybe they are gambling to try their luck or what maybe their positive energy and their horoscope (another important discovery in ancient China) is saying.
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I am interested in making this topic because the debate between gambling for money or entertainment is still very long
Generally speaking, there are academic articles that discussed how money is the primary reason why people gamble [1][2], and I don't think anyone would argue on that. Plus, it is still understandable if others considered gambling simply because they enjoyed or just trying to test out their luck. People have different backgrounds and kinks just like the Chinese. Heck, there are even lots of POGO here in our country where the majority of them are Chinese owners. - https://www.pagcor.ph/regulatory/offshore-gaming.php
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July 20, 2022, 10:12:27 AM |
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This is new for me too, so I appreciate OP for sharing this stuff. I didn't know it was based to test luck and I never had that kind of intention before. I always gamble for money and fun, the pleasure it gives out once you put the bet in. It gave me a good idea though to maybe do the same thing as what they did before. Try your luck on the first bet and if it wins, maybe it will be a lucky day. If it loses then take the rest. But it still doesn't mean you will go all the way betting without a rest.
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All of these research findings conclude that gambling is not always about winning, but rather the process of betting – and the other factors surrounding it that make it fun.
As in many other addictions, what is at the base is an addiction to dopamine. Gambling gives you dopamine fixes, and to keep gambling is to keep looking for your fix. There are several types of addictions based on dopamine and they are not all equally dangerous because there are other factors to take into account, such as addiction to video games or porn. I buy the entertainment thing for responsible gamblers who gamble occasionally but not for people who gamble (and often lose) more than they should, because I think if they say they do it for entertainment they are trying to mask their addiction.
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Seems like very good thread pointing out a research. Cultural factors should be definitely considered thinking about gambling. In western society gambling is always seen as a quick way of making money/getting rich. But as OP points Chinese people see it as part of life. Cause gambling is the best place to test your luck. I sometimes think how gambling was invented, maybe "testing luck" could be main reason humandkind invented it even. Just food for thought. It can be really eye opening.
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July 20, 2022, 11:53:05 AM |
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If it is the local culture that requires us to gamble, I guess it will be okay because the local government itself will allow it. And as long as we don't break the rules of gambling games which are local culture, I think we can still enjoy it. Maybe it was held in some countries while those of us who don't live in that country would find it absurd. But then again, it is their culture that is different from ours. Maybe you can visit that place to take part in the gambling game ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 20, 2022, 12:30:33 PM |
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Gambling is part of Chinese culture. It is seen as the right way to test luck, especially on holidays like Chinese New Year, as well as to get rid of bad luck. link-I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck. this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling? If that's their culture then we must respect it it may not look wrong because every session is very much different from the other one, you cannot be lucky all the time, but of course, there is a limit on testing their luck, they cannot chase their losses just to prove that they are lucky, there should be a limit on that, their culture is not teaching them to be immoral when you mean to test that doesn't mean they should spend all their money. Chinese culture is very much different from ours but there are moderation on how they practice their culture especially on gambling
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July 20, 2022, 01:26:46 PM |
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I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.
Although the article says Chinese people gambling is like culture or luck, but that is not entirely true, in general Chinese people have principles like other people, they know gambling is a risk and will cause personal problems. Basically those who uphold gambling as luck, culture and bad luck, it's done by Confucians, they believe more in (Jade God H S T), they consider gods who rule the universe, so there are rituals, dates, days, years and many others, where they believe that gambling will get good luck or get rid of bad luck which is considered a culture in gambling, they also use the old calendar until now. Usually they will gamble culturally on a large scale in the spring / new, so the culture as gambling for Confucians has been inherited and transmits the value of luck since 700 AD. But for other teachings, it's not like that, they are just like people in general, gambling is not a culture, gambling risks and personal matters.
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