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July 23, 2022, 11:46:05 AM
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Moderate gambling is easier said than done, but it is true than gambling in moderation won't really be that bad to a certain individual. The only problem is that most of the time for most of the gamblers out there, pride always dictate them, as well as their ego. There are so many things that eliminates the word "moderate" in the world of gambling, I'll add up greed, frustration, and depression.

As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.
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July 23, 2022, 10:04:05 PM
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As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Indeed we have our own freedom, but freedom always comes up with responsibility.  That said, we should be responsible in our actions, so gambling in moderation is one way of our responsibility to protect ourselves form harmful effects of too much exposure from gambling.

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

If a person became a gambling addict he then experiences an uncontrollable urge to engage in gambling activity.  That pretty much a contradiction.  Saying a gambling addict that are still in control of himself.  Then that person isn't addicted at all.

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.

And gambling moderation is the result of a gambler being responsible.
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July 23, 2022, 10:07:03 PM
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Indeed we have our own freedom, but freedom always comes up with responsibility.  That said, we should be responsible in our actions, so gambling in moderation is one way of our responsibility to protect ourselves form harmful effects of too much exposure from gambling.
That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

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July 23, 2022, 10:34:10 PM
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That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us.  Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example,  in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted.  If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health.  So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions.  Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

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July 23, 2022, 10:44:03 PM
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That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us.  Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example,  in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted.  If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health.  So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions.  Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.
We know that there's no such thing about unlimited funds where if you do play that much then sooner or later you would really be finding yourself sleeping on the streets.Of course everything should really be in moderation because if not then that would really be causing lots of problems in the future. When gambling then it is really basically for fun but if you are really that lucky then winning or profits would really be just a bonus aside on the entertainment that you had get from playing gambling.It is understandable that things should really be in moderation or else you would really be that involving
yourself too excessively and we know that things having too much engagement and spending amount which arent supposed to be then that would really be resulting on some negative things ahead.

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July 23, 2022, 10:51:00 PM
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Moderate gambling is easier said than done, but it is true than gambling in moderation won't really be that bad to a certain individual. The only problem is that most of the time for most of the gamblers out there, pride always dictate them, as well as their ego. There are so many things that eliminates the word "moderate" in the world of gambling, I'll add up greed, frustration, and depression.

As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.

This advice only works for people who will still have a house over their heads and food at the table even after a loss of huge amounts. This advice will not work on people who are still gambling even if they are only living from paycheck to paycheck. If you are one of those people who worries about rent every month but still has to gamble anyway, just try to get your fill and do other things to help you feel occupied. If you allow yourself to become addicted to gambling, your time is only wasted and your money will go down the drain without you moving forward with your life.

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July 23, 2022, 10:53:17 PM
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I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

 - Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction:  Huh definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level

- Helps with Socialization:  Grin Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

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July 24, 2022, 01:40:20 AM
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First of all, thank you for bringing a topic with a positive approach, I think that you cannot hide or pretend to ignore the different cases of addiction that exist, but a "healthy" betting environment benefits more from the positive approach of those who are successful.

On the other hand, I am not very much in agreement with the comparison of going out to have fun or investing money in leisure time on the grounds that with betting we can have a return, I do not think that this is healthy in a betting approach.

On the contrary, it is a combination of both things, so that if I would have to give it a percentage of importance of the money destined for entertainment that includes games of chance, I would put it at 80% for entertainment outings and 20% for betting.

Nor do I believe that to contribute to the tax revenue of a country you should go to a casino or you have to justify your stay or bets online with that idea.

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July 24, 2022, 03:31:31 AM
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With that, do you think it is worth moderating our gambling engagement to maximize the benefits of gambling activities?

Gambling is a form of entertainment so there are definitely some benefits you will get from it. The only problem is people get too much addicted because of its huge price that you can win that can change your life IF you're lucky. Gambling in moderation only works for people who does it for fun and not for profit but for people who thinks it is the answer to their financial problem, it will only cause more harm to their health.
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July 24, 2022, 04:48:45 AM
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I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

 - Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction:  Huh definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level

- Helps with Socialization:  Grin Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling
It will depend on the perspective of each individual on how they'll be able to interpret their gambling activity. Just as OP said, this list can be achieved if you are gambling in moderation.
Not because you are losing means that you'll feel sad since it is expected that you will experience more lose than win on gambling. Also, it will depend on you if you gambling activity will make you feel relax and provide comfort which could induce stress relief.

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Potential for Big Wins Well gambling is a game of chance where if you got lucky and hit a huge multiplier, you can bring home a huge amount of money.
This is where i do see where most people do really focus on on which the pros would be seeing on this spot where someone could potentially earn huge amount of money specially on hitting
big multipliers or jackpots which you could actually say that majority of us gamblers do see this as a pro but we know that having that intent on a severe manner could really be ending up
on someone on ending up on being addicted thats why it would really act out as a double blade if you dont really make yourself in good control then you would really fall into the pit of addiction.
Majority of those things above are indeed the pro sides but if things turns out to be excessive then it would be eventually goes to the negative side of things.
So lets just be wary and careful on our actions is the key on making yourself safe.

This is why most experts advise doing things in moderation.  Anything that is excessive is harmful both to our health and finance.  Gamblers often ignore this kind of advice since they are too hooked on getting huge multipliers.  We all know being greedy do not give a good result.  We will end up either losing more or worst than that.  That is why we should strictly implement gambling moderation.  Let the big win take its course while we are playing in our perfectly planned responsible gambling engagement.

Yes, moderation is very important. 

The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time.  The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius. 

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance.  In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis.  The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance. 

Stoicism applies to gambling as well.  Don't try to win too much.  You also need to try not to lose too much.  The player needs constant control over their own emotions.

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July 24, 2022, 10:20:54 PM
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The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time.  The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius. 

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance.  In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis.  The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance. 

Stoicism applies to gambling as well.  Don't try to win too much.  You also need to try not to lose too much.  The player needs constant control over their own emotions.
Seneca could be one of the most famous Stoics of his time as well (what's up with romans and stoic ideas? lol) and he had similar sayings about this as well. If you do not achieve that balance then you are going to be chasing one too much and end up with going too imbalanced and would result with something wrong.

The best thing in life is the moderation, if you do not live your life on that balance then you are going to lose your balance and fall. Gambling is the same, if you do not gamble at all then it's fine, if you gamble with just free faucet stuff then you will not find it enough, and if you gamble millions then you will be upset when you lose, so find that right balance.
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July 24, 2022, 10:45:04 PM
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I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

 - Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction:  Huh definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level



- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling
It will depend on the perspective of each individual on how they'll be able to interpret their gambling activity. Just as OP said, this list can be achieved if you are gambling in moderation.
Not because you are losing means that you'll feel sad since it is expected that you will experience more lose than win on gambling. Also, it will depend on you if you gambling activity will make you feel relax and provide comfort which could induce stress relief.

I do understand the contrasting ideas behind gambling.  I believe a gambler should fix his expectation first before gambling.   He should also make himself open for possible losses or possible scenario that may happen during his gambling activity.  Even if the person is gambling in moderation, he will still feel disappointed, and stressed when his expectation isn't met.  So I believe moderation should be coupled with acceptance in whatever his gambling session resulted.


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- Helps with Socialization:  Grin Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

Just to call this out.  Not because a person is playing online he isn't sociable at all.  There are certain reasons why a player uses online gambling, one is probably because convenience is far more important for him than socializing to others.  But gambling isn't limited to online, there are physical gambling casinos where most people use it as a venue to interact with their friends and meet a new friends.  And I found out that all the rest are just your personal thought about gambling Smiley  I do respect every one of it but gambling views isn't limited to our personal thought alone.
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I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

 - Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy
Then the person gambles money that he can't afford to lose.

- Stress reduction:  Huh definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

Same thing, the person uses money that is possibly committed to elsewhere thus, it gives him stress when wagering or betting, hoping not to lose the money.

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

Probably the person is too excited and nervous on the result of his bet that makes him uncomfortable and unable to relax?  So he should stop spending money that is committed elsewhere  Grin

- Helps with Socialization:  Grin Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

Not because a person is an introvert, all around him is also an introvert  Grin.  Physical Casinos are flocks with players that look for social activities.

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

Now I understand why the person can't relax and stress keeps piling in Grin   I do hope for this too but I just let it realized in my course of gambling engagement.  Forcing it won't do us any good.

In short, gambling in moderation really works it is that sometimes other factors make us experience the other way around.

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July 24, 2022, 11:16:35 PM
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The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time.  The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.  

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance.  In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis.  The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance.  

Stoicism applies to gambling as well.  Don't try to win too much.  You also need to try not to lose too much.  The player needs constant control over their own emotions.
Seneca could be one of the most famous Stoics of his time as well (what's up with romans and stoic ideas? lol) and he had similar sayings about this as well. If you do not achieve that balance then you are going to be chasing one too much and end up with going too imbalanced and would result with something wrong.

The best thing in life is the moderation, if you do not live your life on that balance then you are going to lose your balance and fall. Gambling is the same, if you do not gamble at all then it's fine, if you gamble with just free faucet stuff then you will not find it enough, and if you gamble millions then you will be upset when you lose, so find that right balance.

Moderation is the key to appreciate the goodness of everything.
Because if you abuse one thing, that's when you will start having problems.
As mentioned by the OP, I can agree with those positive impact of gambling to people.
That is, if you know how to control yourself in front of the gambling table and know your limits.
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Everyone has negative connotations when it comes to gambling activity but little that we know that gambling when done in moderation can offer great benefits to our mental and physical health and finance.

According to this articles[1][2][3] gambling if done in moderation can give us the following benefits.

Makes you Happier

Stress reduction

Relaxation and Comfort

Helps with Socialization



Responsible gamblers know all of these they've to strive on their limit and maintain their moderation, there are a lot of benefits to moderation and we can only moderate gambling if we are not very much into it like having a good family relationship, better working condition, and a healthy environment, that gambling will not take most of our time putting the right perspective in gambling will give us a lot of benefits and we can truly enjoy gambling.
If we live a balance lifestyle, I guess it’s way too far to fall into gambling addiction. Gambling is a form of entertainment, hence it also contributes to a positive well being of a person. But that’s not the case right now as gambling has been abused and become  a source of living instead. In fact, a lot have ruined their lives because of gambling, except for those responsible and disciplined gamblers who always put gambling into moderation.

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That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us.  Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example,  in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted.  If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health.  So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions.  Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.
That's true and it's a matter of your own decision for being free as you think you can anything that you want. Having a budget as you gamble, you think that it's okay that you won't limit your budget because you'll eventually win them back. But many times it has been proven that it don't go like that at most times. That's why it's destroying us and we're just realizing it too late when we're at the situation that it's hard to deal with and there's no other people that we can blame for that situation but only ourselves.

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July 25, 2022, 07:14:13 AM
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That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us.  Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example,  in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted.  If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health.  So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions.  Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

in the context of freedom there is no absolute freedom of any kind.
The most important thing is how a person can control himself and prevent excessive gambling activities, one of which is by moderating.

limiting the amount in moderation is a highly recommended way for those of us who like to do gambling activities to minimize any loss and lead to addiction. but psychological changes are very vulnerable when the mood is controlled by emotions and this is a common thing that usually happens to us who like to gamble.
So IMO, it is not only limited to moderation that must be applied, but also involves a sense of responsibility to oneself.

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July 25, 2022, 08:30:48 AM
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The pros and cons are on both sides and are radical in every way they can go.For example when you play slots and you win let's say from 100 EUR balance and goes to 1500-2000 EUR as a winning result for this game play session you are very happy which your brain says it by creating dopamine in high quantities and also financially you are very happy because you won quite a nice amount of money.

Now when you lose that 100 EUR and you don't even get the bonus rounds that often,you feel not a great session of game play then it is only natural for you to be sad which is bad for the health and also financially you lost 100 EUR which you could have used to pay the electricity bill for example.

As we see in both cases they are in synchrony with each other,when you win you are happy and healthy and when you lose you are sad which can then impact the health if you are sad for a long time.

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July 25, 2022, 08:52:00 AM
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Gambling in moderation is a fun adventure with so much pros, the cons of gambling starts when  the idea of gambling been seen as a get rich quick scheme. Gambling is too emotional that you need extra care to maintain a fixed level of discipline and keep all activity in moderate level. One thing a gambler should learn is  big risk is like a two edged sword it can be productive or disastrous. And disaster comes with frustration and suicide. Keep everything moderate and enjoy the fun
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