Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed)

[virasisog]

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it ). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

I also noticed that the crowd wasn't excited watching this match and it could possibly mean that they don't find the match thrilling. Yes, Haney almost has the same moves as Mayweather but I don't think he trained him. I hope Haney would find another opponent because we all know that the same result could happen when he fight with Kambosos. There's no huge excitement anymore.

[bitzizzix]

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

[Japinat]

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it ). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

I also noticed that the crowd wasn't excited watching this match and it could possibly mean that they don't find the match thrilling. Yes, Haney almost has the same moves as Mayweather but I don't think he trained him. I hope Haney would find another opponent because we all know that the same result could happen when he fight with Kambosos. There's no huge excitement anymore.

Yes, there's really no hype because Kambosos will just find himself again in the same position where he was defeated recently, Kambosos should've just faced another opponent before reaching Haney again because this will really be a nonsense fight where Haney will win comfortably again that's why he is so confident to fight Kambosos again in his own country.

Well, Mayweather didn't really trained Haney because the latter was trained by his father, Bill Haney, but Mayweather and Haney did some time together until now and spent workout sessions and sparring sessions together while also training Gervonta Davis on the other side.

Haney first met Floyd Mayweather in 2020 during a virtual training session. Haney was always a fan of Mayweather and it was his long-time dream to be trained by ‘TBE’.
That said, their virtual training sessions went on for a while, but two met in person for elevating their training sessions to another level.
Right after their first in-person workout session, the pair spent considerable time with each other, with Haney taking note of Mayweather’s teachings and suggestions.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-devin-haney-and-floyd-mayweather-whats-the-relationship-between-the-undefeated-duo/

[inthelongrun]

Well, Mayweather didn't really trained Haney because the latter was trained by his father, Bill Haney, but Mayweather and Haney did some time together until now and spent workout sessions and sparring sessions together while also training Gervonta Davis on the other side.

Haney first met Floyd Mayweather in 2020 during a virtual training session. Haney was always a fan of Mayweather and it was his long-time dream to be trained by ‘TBE’.
That said, their virtual training sessions went on for a while, but two met in person for elevating their training sessions to another level.
Right after their first in-person workout session, the pair spent considerable time with each other, with Haney taking note of Mayweather’s teachings and suggestions.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-devin-haney-and-floyd-mayweather-whats-the-relationship-between-the-undefeated-duo/

That's a weird article there mate. I'm pretty confident that the author is wrong. I heard Haney was a very promising prospect many years ago, I can still remember his record at that time was 8-0-5 and at that time the kid was already living in Vegas where Mayweather also lives. And I think I heard of him because of Mayweather and his team. Floyd used to have a lot of promising fighters in his gym, although some of them are not regular there and some are also visitors wanting to take a look at it or looking for sparring partners. I think it was in Mayweather's gym where I found a video of young Haney. And who knows Haney and Mayweather met even earlier than what I saw and read on the internet as they're both living in Vegas.

[South Park]

Yes, I do agree that it will be the same reason and probably he will school Kambosos again that's why Haney is willing to fight him in Australia.

Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.

The fight was not even close so it is going to be very difficult for Kambosos to win against a Haney that dominated almost all the fight, the truth is that it is impossible to close the gap with such a little amount of time so Kambosos will need to go for the KO or at least injure Haney during the first rounds to have some kind of hope for a victory, if this does not happen and the judges have to decide which one out of the two wins then Haney will be the one which will be given the fight.

[bbc.reporter]

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

[freedomgo]

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

Same here, I frankly expected that Kambosos can do more than what he did on their first encounter and put my bets on his side but I think we all made the wrong impression that he could actually defeat Haney. The latter managed to defeat Kambosos comfortably in his own country and in front of his compatriots, now he wanted a rematch? Honestly, this will be more like a replay and we will be seeing the same outcome and performance.

Haney agreed that the fight will happen again somewhere in Australia (place and time not established yet) and that is because he is now more comfortable and confident that he can still defeat Kambosos. Might be boring though but that's what Haney's style and the most important thing is that he can maintain his record without a scratch.

[btc_angela]

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

Yes, it shows Haney's mental fortitude, I mean he is on a foreign soil not sure where he trains in the last week or at least when he arrived in Australia, and then the news of his father not with him up to the last minute.

But he is the favorite on the first fight if I'm not mistaken. So perhaps Haney will be the same here, he will outclassed and put another show and bet Kambosos by a decision.

[erep]

Yes, it shows Haney's mental fortitude, I mean he is on a foreign soil not sure where he trains in the last week or at least when he arrived in Australia, and then the news of his father not with him up to the last minute.

He lost the most important man in the ring corner during his time in Australia but that won't dampen his spirits, I'm sure he communicates to strategize via video call, his dad will motivate Haney to defend his undisputed title and must bring home the win.

Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.

[bisdak40]

He lost the most important man in the ring corner during his time in Australia but that won't dampen his spirits, I'm sure he communicates to strategize via video call, his dad will motivate Haney to defend his undisputed title and must bring home the win.

Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.

I think Haney Sr made it to the ring during the fight, though delay but he was there to guide his son but the way i see it, even if his father missed the fight the result would still be the same because of contrasting style and Haney is just too fast and too technical for a brawler like Kambosos. Many boxing writers wrote that this rematch is not too appealing because of the dominance of Haney in the first fight which i agree.

[yazher]

Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.

[erep]

I think Haney Sr made it to the ring during the fight, though delay but he was there to guide his son but the way i see it, even if his father missed the fight the result would still be the same because of contrasting style and Haney is just too fast and too technical for a brawler like Kambosos. Many boxing writers wrote that this rematch is not too appealing because of the dominance of Haney in the first fight which i agree.

Hopefully the virtual presence of Haney Sr. will add fuel to Haney because he loses direct support in the corner during the fight, Haney will feel the difference from previous fights because he has to spend big moments alone without a father. Although many speculated that Haney would lead points in each round from dominating the previous win, but the difference in training time of 4 months for the second fight could potentially be a new opportunity for Kambosos. However, the second fight became the final determinant of the dispute between the two boxers.

[goaldigger]

Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.

There’s a money on a rematch and usually, every boxer will aim for a rematch just to get back the title, this is pretty normal. Haney won against Kambosos, he clearly won the match by that time and we saw his aggressiveness. It’s bad for Kambosos to find another might right before this rematch to happen, its better for hi to do more trainings and look for a good strategy, watch their previous match and you will see their how effective Haney at that time. Well, there’s plenty of time to prepare but still I see Haney here to dominate the match again.

[coolcoinz]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

[bittraffic]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.

[Darker45]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.

LOL! That decision win was not an only. It was a clear case of one boxer being highly outpointed by another. Kambosos wasn't showing that he is an equal competitor. The scorecards were 116-112, 116-112, and 118-110. If we can exaggerate a little, it was a walk in the park for Haney. There's no point making a trilogy out of such an unequal match. If Haney wins both fights easily, a third fight is not only unnecessary, it is also ridiculous. Nobody would be interested with that third battle.

It is never advantageous for Kambosos to lose here. Winning in this rematch means redemption. It means money. It means Kambosos will be the undisputed champion. Not to mention that he is fighting in front of his countrymen.

[bitterguy28]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.

What do we have to expect from Arum? of course his interest is always for money and care for nothing more as Boxers is just part of their money bagging position and they are being paid to entertain people but Arum is responsible for the income making option.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .

[Jating]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, I do agree that it will be the same reason and probably he will school Kambosos again that's why Haney is willing to fight him in Australia.

Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.

The fight was not even close so it is going to be very difficult for Kambosos to win against a Haney that dominated almost all the fight, the truth is that it is impossible to close the gap with such a little amount of time so Kambosos will need to go for the KO or at least injure Haney during the first rounds to have some kind of hope for a victory, if this does not happen and the judges have to decide which one out of the two wins then Haney will be the one which will be given the fight.

I agree that the fight is not even close. And we all agree that the outcome might be the same, Haney to win. But I'm just thinking that this might be close though, not the same as in the first fight wherein Haney was clearly the winner. And if this fight is going to be close, what are your thoughts of the judging? Will it be biased scoring, although if I'm not mistaken, there is no Australian judge in the first fight. But who knows who will be the judge in the second fight. Just scenario going on my head. 

[bittraffic]

Yes. There will be biases when it comes to judging in this fight. Every time an event is held in the country of one fighter, the judges are always going to give high points to him. Kambosos may not win by the looks of it but by points, he will win. This is if the fight ends in 12th round.

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.

What do we have to expect from Arum? of course his interest is always for money and care for nothing more as Boxers is just part of their money bagging position and they are being paid to entertain people but Arum is responsible for the income making option.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .

Arranging fights is also going on in UFC and perhaps in One Championship although I'm not familiar with this promotion.  In UFC there are also arrangements and contracts forcing fighters to lay off or sort of a mafia arrangement.

Boxing, however, is still a better option is almost like a fair fight with just both hands, unlike MMA where wrestling, BJJ, and boxing skills compete.