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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Devin Haney Decision
B. Devin Haney KO/TKO
C. George Kambosos Decision
D. George Kambosos KO/TKO
E. Draw

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August 23, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
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Anyhow, and since Loma has declared his comeback, this two for sure have that at the back of their mind because the winner of this fight will challenge Loma in the next fight. Bob Arum has already set this plan in motion already.

That's a good news if it will happen, Loma vs Haney, such a great rivalry as both are technical fighter. I like Loma to win but Haney is just too fast, so Loma has to make a strategy that will expose Haney's weakness, which no one knows for now.

Might be too premature to say it this time because Loma will for sure adjust in the ring first because he's been inactive for almost a year now while busy defending his country against the Russian army during that time of inactivity in the ring. We'll see Loma's comeback first against Ortiz, but I can say that the latter has a smaller chance to win and a fight between Loma vs Haney will be a good fight to see for sure, soon!

If Haney will take Kambosos again and Loma will win with his own upcoming fight, the chance of seeing these two inside a same ring might be the next in line from the promoters, They just need to win both and hypes their name for the fans to call for them to meet up, both camps will be compensated a lot if fans will call and will support if ever they will be arranged to face each other.

For now, it's the event first that we needed to watch, then after that we will be able to give our opinion to which fighter the winner of these upcoming fights will be facing next.

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August 24, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
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There is still enough time before the date of the fight, so with good promotion and hype around the rematch, it will be possible to attract a significant number of fans from both Haney and Kambosos, who has a large audience in Australia.

Not sure enough if this rematch will collect more revenue compared to Haney and Kambosos's first encounter because Kambosos's fans saw how Haney dominated almost every round of the fight while almost all of us expected that Kambosos will try and give Haney a hard time and will be aggressive in the early rounds but that didn't happen either.

Sad to say but this fight doesn't have much hype at all because almost all the boxing fans around the world believes that Haney will still win this rematch and that's also why Haney is not concerned if the fight will again takes place somewhere in Australia as he himself knows that there won't be much difference this time.

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August 24, 2022, 04:13:55 PM
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Anyhow, and since Loma has declared his comeback, this two for sure have that at the back of their mind because the winner of this fight will challenge Loma in the next fight. Bob Arum has already set this plan in motion already.

That's a good news if it will happen, Loma vs Haney, such a great rivalry as both are technical fighter. I like Loma to win but Haney is just too fast, so Loma has to make a strategy that will expose Haney's weakness, which no one knows for now.

Might be too premature to say it this time because Loma will for sure adjust in the ring first because he's been inactive for almost a year now while busy defending his country against the Russian army during that time of inactivity in the ring. We'll see Loma's comeback first against Ortiz, but I can say that the latter has a smaller chance to win and a fight between Loma vs Haney will be a good fight to see for sure, soon!

If Haney will take Kambosos again and Loma will win with his own upcoming fight, the chance of seeing these two inside a same ring might be the next in line from the promoters, They just need to win both and hypes their name for the fans to call for them to meet up, both camps will be compensated a lot if fans will call and will support if ever they will be arranged to face each other.

For now, it's the event first that we needed to watch, then after that we will be able to give our opinion to which fighter the winner of these upcoming fights will be facing next.

Indeed! And if ever Kambosos will win as well as Loma in their respective fights then I think we will likely see these two next sharing a ring together as the fans will for sure ask a fight between them before somebody is climbing another division because Haney is already the undisputed boxer in lightweight and nothing for him to clean there.

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August 24, 2022, 05:28:13 PM
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Anyhow, and since Loma has declared his comeback, this two for sure have that at the back of their mind because the winner of this fight will challenge Loma in the next fight. Bob Arum has already set this plan in motion already.

That's a good news if it will happen, Loma vs Haney, such a great rivalry as both are technical fighter. I like Loma to win but Haney is just too fast, so Loma has to make a strategy that will expose Haney's weakness, which no one knows for now.

Might be too premature to say it this time because Loma will for sure adjust in the ring first because he's been inactive for almost a year now while busy defending his country against the Russian army during that time of inactivity in the ring. We'll see Loma's comeback first against Ortiz, but I can say that the latter has a smaller chance to win and a fight between Loma vs Haney will be a good fight to see for sure, soon!

If Haney will take Kambosos again and Loma will win with his own upcoming fight, the chance of seeing these two inside a same ring might be the next in line from the promoters, They just need to win both and hypes their name for the fans to call for them to meet up, both camps will be compensated a lot if fans will call and will support if ever they will be arranged to face each other.

For now, it's the event first that we needed to watch, then after that we will be able to give our opinion to which fighter the winner of these upcoming fights will be facing next.

Indeed! And if ever Kambosos will win as well as Loma in their respective fights then I think we will likely see these two next sharing a ring together as the fans will for sure ask a fight between them before somebody is climbing another division because Haney is already the undisputed boxer in lightweight and nothing for him to clean there.

That is still not sure for now because Loma still have to prove his existence in lightweight after that inactivity and has to defeat a much younger Ortiz, don't get me wrong here because I'm not underestimating him but he's now at the back of a long queue even if he had a reasonable reason for that inactivity. Gervonta Davis is I think the next in line for a unification match.

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August 24, 2022, 06:35:21 PM
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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

That's for sure but I think his camp is not that concerned because Haney is now the undisputed boxer, so money will eventually chase him as many fighters will try to dethrone him from being an undisputed boxer. But yea, PPV wise he ain't gonna make it and he gonna need his opponent to sell the fight to attract viewers.

Money wise he needs to work it out to bring more audiences but I guess his camp will not adjust as they are already succeeding from how they fought and as long as they holding the belt challengers will chase them and it will be defending from the handlers and promoters to bring fans to watch the fight, even if it's a known boring type of fight but if a type of challenger will be more aggressive, maybe or it will magnet fans to chase for Haney.

There are still fans and gamblers who wanted to see another fighter to bring something and possible to disappoint the champion

we never know, basing from experienced there are so many upset from this sport.

Haney's camp is just thankful that their cash cow is a champion in the boxing industry because if not, Haney won't get any attention at all because of his style in the ring as the people will really find it boring to watch. But now that Haney is undisputed, he will be chased by any boxer that wants his belts especially now that there's a hype gathering around that Haney will likely fight Loma next.

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August 25, 2022, 05:32:36 PM
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Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.
Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

That's for sure but I think his camp is not that concerned because Haney is now the undisputed boxer, so money will eventually chase him as many fighters will try to dethrone him from being an undisputed boxer. But yea, PPV wise he ain't gonna make it and he gonna need his opponent to sell the fight to attract viewers.

Money wise he needs to work it out to bring more audiences but I guess his camp will not adjust as they are already succeeding from how they fought and as long as they holding the belt challengers will chase them and it will be defending from the handlers and promoters to bring fans to watch the fight, even if it's a known boring type of fight but if a type of challenger will be more aggressive, maybe or it will magnet fans to chase for Haney.

There are still fans and gamblers who wanted to see another fighter to bring something and possible to disappoint the champion

we never know, basing from experienced there are so many upset from this sport.

Haney's camp is just thankful that their cash cow is a champion in the boxing industry because if not, Haney won't get any attention at all because of his style in the ring as the people will really find it boring to watch. But now that Haney is undisputed, he will be chased by any boxer that wants his belts especially now that there's a hype gathering around that Haney will likely fight Loma next.

There is likely a chance that Haney will face Lomachenko next if things go well in this rematch in his favor as well as Lomachenko in his fight against Ortiz. Also, I can quite say that it's really too soon that Kambosos asked for a rematch because there is just a small chance of him winning and Haney will still be the one to be hailed victorious in this match.

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August 27, 2022, 11:48:12 AM
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So George Kambosos is fully aware that this rematch is a do or die for him. If he losses again especially in a wide decision or stoppage, people will start to believe that his Teofimo victory was only a fluke. And he will get back into the drawing board again. Mentioning that he won't go back to fighting domestic fighters in Australia might mean that he will fight overseas against hometown fighters which is kinda difficult for him as he is not a KO artist. Personally, I want Kambosos to win to shake things up. And I always want underdogs to win as much as possible.

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"It's a great division but for me, I'm 29 so for me it's do or die," Kambosos told reporters.

"If I don't overcome this fight you will not see me back in Australia fighting domestic guys; that's not me.

"Everything I have I will be putting into that ring and me training, and god willing I will be victorious."

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August 27, 2022, 02:12:52 PM
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So George Kambosos is fully aware that this rematch is a do or die for him. If he losses again especially in a wide decision or stoppage, people will start to believe that his Teofimo victory was only a fluke. And he will get back into the drawing board again. Mentioning that he won't go back to fighting domestic fighters in Australia might mean that he will fight overseas against hometown fighters which is kinda difficult for him as he is not a KO artist. Personally, I want Kambosos to win to shake things up. And I always want underdogs to win as much as possible.

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"It's a great division but for me, I'm 29 so for me it's do or die," Kambosos told reporters.

"If I don't overcome this fight you will not see me back in Australia fighting domestic guys; that's not me.

"Everything I have I will be putting into that ring and me training, and god willing I will be victorious."

At least he knows himself how important this fight is, he wants to push his limit and will try to even the W. Yes, obviously he is not a KO artist as in his 20 wins, only 10 of that are coming from KO. Just like you, I also like betting on the underdog, but honestly, I'm quite disappointed with his performance in the first fight and I think we will be seeing the same outcome in this rematch.
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August 27, 2022, 08:35:21 PM
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So George Kambosos is fully aware that this rematch is a do or die for him. If he losses again especially in a wide decision or stoppage, people will start to believe that his Teofimo victory was only a fluke. And he will get back into the drawing board again. Mentioning that he won't go back to fighting domestic fighters in Australia might mean that he will fight overseas against hometown fighters which is kinda difficult for him as he is not a KO artist. Personally, I want Kambosos to win to shake things up. And I always want underdogs to win as much as possible.

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"It's a great division but for me, I'm 29 so for me it's do or die," Kambosos told reporters.

"If I don't overcome this fight you will not see me back in Australia fighting domestic guys; that's not me.

"Everything I have I will be putting into that ring and me training, and god willing I will be victorious."

At least he knows himself how important this fight is, he wants to push his limit and will try to even the W. Yes, obviously he is not a KO artist as in his 20 wins, only 10 of that are coming from KO. Just like you, I also like betting on the underdog, but honestly, I'm quite disappointed with his performance in the first fight and I think we will be seeing the same outcome in this rematch.
The fight was so one-sided that it is normal that people are not holding big hopes for Kambosos during the rematch, and his lack of punching power plays against him here as well, for example in the Wilder and Fury trilogy fans knew Fury was the best boxer, but Wilder could change everything with a single punch and this allowed us to see some exciting fights despite the deficiencies of Wilder as a fighter, but Kambosos does not have such punching power, which means he needs to beat Haney only with his boxing technique and this looks to be very difficult to do.
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August 28, 2022, 03:50:08 AM
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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.

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August 28, 2022, 07:50:31 AM
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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.


I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

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August 28, 2022, 09:37:10 AM
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I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.
Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

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August 28, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
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I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.
Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

True, there is always these KO punches in the later part of the fight that can turn the tide of the match.  And I agree that we cannot judge the upcoming fight with the previous fights.  For sure, the losing side on the first fight will have their strategy polished, and adjust according to what they have learned from the first fight.  So we cannot say 100% that Haney will win the rematch, we might say that Haney has the advantage but saying that he will 100% win again on their rematch is unfounded.  Let us wait and see the result before saying something not absolute yet  Cheesy.

Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

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August 28, 2022, 11:09:26 AM
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I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.
Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

And that's not new to this sport, though I would like to comment about that dominance from Haney we all witness that and if Kambosos won't be able to adjust in how Haney set his plan beating him, it would be a had rematch for him. He needs to be more careful and needs to bring good throws to create an opening and try to overpower Haney in any chances that are given to him.

Without any further adjustment with Kambosos we might see the same outcome, and with the possible matchup between Loma and Haney

we might see them or we might hear updates once both of them in their matches.

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August 28, 2022, 11:34:37 AM
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Despite the loss, Kambosos still receive few votes
George Kambosos Decision   - 5 (16.7%) and only one voted that Kambosos will win by a knockout, I don't know if the number is still high outside of this forum that Kambosos will beat Haney, he may promise to do better but Haney is good at changing style in the ring, I don't know what kind of plan will Kambosos use, before the first fight many of us are excited to see the match but now I don't know if the number is still high, of course, the Australian will cheer Kambosos but they have doubt too if Kambosos can deliver the win.

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Despite the loss, Kambosos still receive few votes
George Kambosos Decision   - 5 (16.7%) and only one voted that Kambosos will win by a knockout, I don't know if the number is still high outside of this forum that Kambosos will beat Haney, he may promise to do better but Haney is good at changing style in the ring, I don't know what kind of plan will Kambosos use, before the first fight many of us are excited to see the match but now I don't know if the number is still high, of course, the Australian will cheer Kambosos but they have doubt too if Kambosos can deliver the win.

That's normal mate, Kambosos still has a chance to win, and just like his chance on the poll, that's also his chance in the betting odds as obviously he will be the heavy underdog going to the fight. Kambosos is surely training hard because he does not want to be defeated again that could potentially end his career if he does not move up in weight.

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August 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

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August 29, 2022, 06:17:47 AM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Fans on both sides are really waiting for this so the only now is to wait if both fighters will win and after that the talk between camps will be anticipated, promoters will be there to negotiate and if the price is right for sure we will see this event to happen. For now, we should support both fighters and hope for the best.

We don't want to see any sideways or any problem that will affect the possibilities of their match up, looking to see clean and
considerable wins from both of them.

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August 29, 2022, 07:28:57 AM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.
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