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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Devin Haney Decision
B. Devin Haney KO/TKO
C. George Kambosos Decision
D. George Kambosos KO/TKO
E. Draw

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September 23, 2022, 11:43:31 AM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.
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September 23, 2022, 06:43:10 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

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September 23, 2022, 08:50:19 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

Just the same with Casimero's case, there's nothing that he can do but to move forward and try his skills in the next division, like what he said, he can't compromise his health and the best option is to move up. Now there are many great fighters in this division. We will expect more interesting fights this coming season and that means that aside from the money that will flow, fans will also enjoy the best match that promoters will be offering.

Haney and Kambosos rematch will dictate who's going to be the title holder and if in case there's no trilogy to happen.

If in case Haney will win again, then he might earn a huge amount of money in his next money fight.

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September 23, 2022, 11:16:11 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

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September 24, 2022, 03:57:33 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

And Lopez deserve some respect for that! He did not made some noise when he was defeated by Kambosos, instead he took some time to reflect what is lacking, eventually he realized that lightweight is not for him and probably, moving up is one of the best decisions he made. Recently, I found out that he is about to face someone this coming December, he is looking to have a title fight.

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Teofimo (17-1, 13 KOs) wants to fight for a world title in December against IBF/WBO light welterweight champion Josh Taylor or for the WBC belt against the winner of Jose Zepeda and Regis Prograis.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/08/teofimo-lopez-fighting-next-on-dec-10th-at-msg/

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September 24, 2022, 08:13:32 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

Some are surprised and that includes me, all I know that he will at least fight Robson first before he decides to move up in the next weight class, I didn't know that he's already at the verge of that situation. Well, it is still good for him because he decided to move much earlier, he is still young and I bet he can make some difference with that power and speed he have.

Too soon for him to fight any title holders including Gervonta Davis, he too should climb the ranks just like what others did. I believe Ryan Garcia is a perfect match for him and the winner will get to fight with Gervonta Davis.

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September 24, 2022, 08:32:49 PM
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^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

Some are surprised and that includes me, all I know that he will at least fight Robson first before he decides to move up in the next weight class, I didn't know that he's already at the verge of that situation. Well, it is still good for him because he decided to move much earlier, he is still young and I bet he can make some difference with that power and speed he have.

Too soon for him to fight any title holders including Gervonta Davis, he too should climb the ranks just like what others did. I believe Ryan Garcia is a perfect match for him and the winner will get to fight with Gervonta Davis.

Well he hinted already that he will definitely go up one weight class and he is targeting Gervonta Davis. But we are speculating that he might unify all the belts first before climbing up.

Nevertheless, it seems that the situation of having all the belts at super featherweight will not going to happen. I believed that he will have to work his way of lightweight before facing big names such as Davis and Ryan Garcia. Both of this fighters though might be a problem for Shakur, but we will see.

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September 24, 2022, 09:17:56 PM
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Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

But Shakur has proven himself and schooled Robson in their recent fight.  Whether he retains his belt or was stripped of it, the fight shows that he is still the king of the Division.  The 135 weight division is getting more and more interesting.  The boxing council will have an additional option of making huge money in the Lightweight Division.  Grin



Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

It is more surprising that Shakur doesn't meet the weight limit.  Vacating the belt isn't that surprising since they already decided to move up into the lightweight division.  It is a wise decision on the part of Shakur's camp.  Better to preserve the health of the boxer than to put the boxer in danger just to retain the belt. 

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made.


I agree, the decision of Shakur's camp has evaded the chance of Shakur suffering a huge amount of body deterioration due to forced dehydration.

Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

It would be very and exciting fight if he is matched with Davis but I agree that his adviser will let him settle down on the lightweight division before targeting the top ranked fighter of the division.

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^^ Yes, that's one of his biggest mistakes, he didn't let his hands go specially in the early rounds. And it's too late, maybe round 7 when he started to chase Devin, but Haney is already in the zone and comfortable, using his length so that George can't go inside. So if Kambosos will start hot like in the Lopez fight and swarm Haney, then he might have a chance to win. Otherwise, another easy fight for Haney, cruising automatic for a 12 round decision again and a place for a Loma fight next year.
This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.
We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.
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Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.

Haney is indeed a defensive player but Haney isn't good as Mayweather Jr. in terms of shifting def and offensive mode, IMO.  So there is still a good chance for Kambosos to crack the defense of Haney.
If Kambosos fail to adjust in this fight, obviously, Haney will surely dominates the fight.  Though I do not think Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win the fight,   Kambosos needs a new strategy to outbox or outclass the defensive boxing style of Haney.

We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.

Job Straight and lots of it.  Kambosos must outbox honey.  He must land lots of jobs and straight while evading the counter punches thrown by Haney.  Kambosos must also target the body, any legal part that can drain the stamina out of Haney. Kambosos can also try approaching Haney via different angles, and try to learn from Manny's attack and evasive moves.   It is quite difficult to crack a defensive player especially if that player is good with countering and has KO punching power.  But I believe there is no perfect strategy in boxing so any boxing style can be countered by another boxing style.

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He had the right to exercise it right away but we will know it soon if Kambosos and his camp definitely did the right thing for rushing the fight, we didn't know exactly what happened behind the scenes but it looks to me that Kambosos was a having a hard time accepting the reality and that he was overwhelmed by Haney.

I agree, he needs another fresh strategy to overcome Haney's technicalities because if he and his camp cannot find that something that might lead him the win he needed then I'm afraid that Kambosos is just adding the embarrassment he experienced earlier this year.
I really hope that this is more than sour grapes coming from Kambosos and there was in fact something that affected his performance in his fight against Haney, if that is the case then we may get to see a more interesting fight than the one that we watched previously, but even then I do not think Kambosos will have too much of a chance to get the win, however if those are nothing but excuses coming from Kambosos then the upcoming fight will not be really that interesting to watch.

When someone losses, there is almost the element of sour graping in them and think that they know how to avenge their defeat in the rematch. But it terms out to be not true, just like in Joshua vs Usyk.

And there will always be excuses if boxer is defeated, but let's see how George will responds in this rematch and I imagine that this won't be any shortage of trash talking just like in their first fight. But the thing is now Haney has the bragging rights and no matter what George says, it's going to bite him in the ass.

George can talk whatever he wants, but we will not forget how he was dominated in the first fight, therefore, for him to reclaim his name, he needs to fight well and beat Haney which surely is not an easy thing to do. I doubt that the skills of George would be enough to beat Haney, but let's give him a chance as this could be his last fight if he fails.

I also think that Kambosos should be given a good opportunity, because he is a boxer who needs to vindicate himself, perhaps everyone is betting on Haney but I think that Haney is undoubtedly what he has in preparation and in combat matters he has a great team in his shouldersw also, we cannot forget the experience he has, as every boxer has vulnerabilities, it is obvious but we must also recognize that he is a human being and that he can bring some mistakes that can be seen by Kambosos, and Kambosos has a lot to give , he needs to win this fight, I know that most bets will be in favor of Haney, but oh those who bet in favor of Kambosos and win.

^^ Yes, that's one of his biggest mistakes, he didn't let his hands go specially in the early rounds. And it's too late, maybe round 7 when he started to chase Devin, but Haney is already in the zone and comfortable, using his length so that George can't go inside. So if Kambosos will start hot like in the Lopez fight and swarm Haney, then he might have a chance to win. Otherwise, another easy fight for Haney, cruising automatic for a 12 round decision again and a place for a Loma fight next year.
This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.
We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.

In the case of Kambosos everything changes, because if I were Kambosos I would not look at social networks or anything that had to do with general statistics, because I would simply be disappointed and obviously when seeing numbers and statistics anyone gets demoralized, for me Kambosos have a lot to gain, and Haney has a lot to lose if he loses, so for me this fight, if there is one, will be very interesting, because we will see a Haney who will be very pressured, and Kambosos as one of the boxers who will win the most if he wins, it is something obvious, because Immediately more opportunities will open up for him, he will have many more opinions of business models where he will always want the win-win.

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^^ Yes, that's one of his biggest mistakes, he didn't let his hands go specially in the early rounds. And it's too late, maybe round 7 when he started to chase Devin, but Haney is already in the zone and comfortable, using his length so that George can't go inside. So if Kambosos will start hot like in the Lopez fight and swarm Haney, then he might have a chance to win. Otherwise, another easy fight for Haney, cruising automatic for a 12 round decision again and a place for a Loma fight next year.
This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.
We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.

Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.

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I also think that Kambosos should be given a good opportunity, because he is a boxer who needs to vindicate himself, perhaps everyone is betting on Haney but I think that Haney is undoubtedly what he has in preparation and in combat matters he has a great team in his shouldersw also, we cannot forget the experience he has, as every boxer has vulnerabilities, it is obvious but we must also recognize that he is a human being and that he can bring some mistakes that can be seen by Kambosos, and Kambosos has a lot to give , he needs to win this fight, I know that most bets will be in favor of Haney, but oh those who bet in favor of Kambosos and win.
On the other hand, there are several reasons that make him want to do a rematch, such as saying about Haney who is too passive and tends to clinch and maintain a distance which makes the match so monotonous for a duel that risks a big title.
Maybe in this case he actually wanted to try again even though he knew that Haney was something that would probably be greatly favored now.


Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.
If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

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September 25, 2022, 10:28:13 AM
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If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.

Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.

Also, Kambosos must not approach Haney directly, he will be susceptible to jobs and counter-attacks. Kambosos must approach Haney at an angle where Haney's counter is ineffective.  It needs fast reflexes but it is worth practicing.

In the case of Kambosos everything changes, because if I were Kambosos I would not look at social networks or anything that had to do with general statistics, because I would simply be disappointed and obviously when seeing numbers and statistics anyone gets demoralized, for me Kambosos have a lot to gain, and Haney has a lot to lose if he loses, so for me this fight, if there is one, will be very interesting, because we will see a Haney who will be very pressured, and Kambosos as one of the boxers who will win the most if he wins, it is something obvious, because Immediately more opportunities will open up for him, he will have many more opinions of business models where he will always want the win-win.

On the other hand, knowing what is the talk on social media and making use of it as fuel to better himself isn't a bad thing.  Kambosos should just humble himself and let his fist do the talking.  About the benefits of a rematch, I think it goes either way, if ever Kambosos wins, I am sure a rematch will happen and by that time, it is Kambosos who will have to lose a lot and Haney will be the one to gain a lot.  And that is one of the function of a rematch, for the loser to have a chance to regain whatever he lost in their 1st match.

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September 25, 2022, 11:56:47 AM
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If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

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If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

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September 25, 2022, 01:25:44 PM
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If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

It's either Kambosos become slow in the first fight or that Haney is really good in anticipating his punch that's why he was able to get away or evade it as soon as Kambosos throws it.

And if I remember correctly, Haney said that in pre game conference, that he will beat Kambosos to the punch and everything that George will do, he will counter it. So it's his timing, and it will beat everything, if you can time your opponent then you can hurt him. So it might be the same result in this rematch, Haney by decision if Kambosos can't adjust.
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September 25, 2022, 01:30:38 PM
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Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.

Also, Kambosos must not approach Haney directly, he will be susceptible to jobs and counter-attacks. Kambosos must approach Haney at an angle where Haney's counter is ineffective.  It needs fast reflexes but it is worth practicing.


In their first match that jabs really protects Haney and made him win with the scorecards, Kambosos needs break that protection in a manner of countering those jabs with a great timing to create opening and exposed Haney, it's a lot of adjustments and good body movements, if he will able to find that way it would be difficult for Haney to use his stuff in covering to Kambosos aggressive punches.

If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

One good timing to land a solid combination will change the direction of this fight, like what we have seen from their last match Kambosos game plan was well read by Haney, those counter jabs hurt Kambosos a lot so he needs to find ways to counter that plus he needs to make solid conversions, a wise in throwing punches will conserve his energy and might bring him the belt back.

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September 25, 2022, 02:31:23 PM
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That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

One good timing to land a solid combination will change the direction of this fight, like what we have seen from their last match Kambosos game plan was well read by Haney, those counter jabs hurt Kambosos a lot so he needs to find ways to counter that plus he needs to make solid conversions, a wise in throwing punches will conserve his energy and might bring him the belt back.
Counter punching strategy will best work against an aggressive opponent, and since Haney is more of a technical fighter than an aggressive fighter, so I would say that the chance Kambosos would land a good counter punch is very slim, he needs to be accurate so that one punch could change everything.

It's easier said than done actually, but a slim chance is better than nothing.

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Pretty sure the result will be Haney wins by decision. In the first match, Kambosos couldn't touch Haney, and nothing will change in this 2nd match except for the increase of the KO probability because Kambosos will be more aggressive, which will make him out of his style. Honestly, this match is boring, unlike what we expected when Loma was the king. Hopefully, the winner won't chicken out when Loma is coming.

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