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Just a quick update on this fight: Here is the kick off press conference, however, Robson is not yet in the US, nevertheless you can see the support Newark has given to Shakur though, the mayor is there to give support to him. There's also a lot of prospects in the undercard, so overall I will say that Top Rank has put a good match in this fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L14l1zY5tU
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July 27, 2022, 02:39:31 AM |
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He is obviously well love in Newark as what the Mayor says, he really carry them in his jersey and boxing trunks and represents the City and they are just giving it back to him.
And then he assured his fans that he is going to beat him Conceicao, and he will be technical (just like in the Valdez fight). So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
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July 27, 2022, 05:14:34 AM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight.
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July 27, 2022, 01:44:18 PM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight. Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show. Consider this the easiest fight match to make money as long as you bet a huge amount also seeing what the odds is as of now. It will also be a huge loss if an upset happens.
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July 27, 2022, 02:45:00 PM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight. Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson. and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round.
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July 28, 2022, 02:38:21 AM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight. Stevenson is a boxer with great skill and also has a different strategy in knowing his opponent, and Valdez is a formidable champion with an unbeaten record in 30 fights. But all those report cards turned red against Stevenson. and I will also say the same thing that Conceicao will lose and KO before the last round. That is what you call ring IQ, and I agree, against Herring it was a different strategy and so with the Oscar Valdez win. It's not hard to see Stevnson winning by KO and the fight not going to distance. We might see him as being a very cerebral fighter, but he also possesses a KO power at this division. It could be a body shot to the liver and Robson can't beat the count.
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July 28, 2022, 02:45:38 AM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight. Let me quote it for you, “I think that’s where [Oscar] Valdez made a mistake. He didn’t put the pressure on [Conceicao] and didn’t try to start beating him up until rounds six, seven. I think that’s where he went wrong. With me, from round two and three, you’ll see a lot of me trying to beat him up. I wanna get him out of there.”
https://www.boxingscene.com/stevenson-im-going-there-beat-up-conceicao-wanna-get-him-out-there--167887So that's what he said and that's why I said that I'm expecting Shakur to really jump on the gun. He can still be technical but at the same time be the aggressor and not giving Robson any space from the early rounds. He actually score a knock down against Valdez in round 6 if you are not aware of. And as you have said, he dominated Valdez with his technical abilities but at the same time deliver a knock down punch.
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July 28, 2022, 03:07:34 AM |
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So I'm expecting from the first round, Stevenson will be coming hard and maybe a early technical knockout win for him.
I don't think he would do that, as you said, he is a technical fighter and a technical fighter would like to take it slow but in a consistent way. He is not aggressive as Valdez that's why he dominates Valdez because of his effective strategy which is using his quickness while Valdez was not able to use his power most of the time in the fight. Shakur waits for an opportunity while the pressure fighter comes after him like what he did with Valdez but why they did all this show while Robson is not there at all will make the crowd think its all just Shakur show. Consider this the easiest fight match to make money as long as you bet a huge amount also seeing what the odds is as of now. It will also be a huge loss if an upset happens. That will really be a huge upset if Robson somewhat manage to win, in any form against the best 130 lbs fighter we have. No doubt that Robson have the tools, but at the same time, Shakur is about to hit the peak of his boxing career so it will be very difficult to see a boxer with this caliber at his prime being upset. So for me, I'm not seeing it happening, and so again, the wise bet could be Shakur.
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July 28, 2022, 04:06:08 AM |
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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.
Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.
I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.
His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him. Stevenson - 1.05 Conceicao - 9.60
The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe. I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez. Edit: I also added a poll. The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.
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July 28, 2022, 09:22:18 AM |
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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.
Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.
I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.
His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him. Stevenson - 1.05 Conceicao - 9.60
The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe. I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez. Edit: I also added a poll. The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon. What is the odds for over 7.5? I haven't check sports bookies yet. But if we look at Stevenson's record some of them are UD, so I reckon this might be the case against Robson, as Conceicao could be a tough cookie to crack. I mean he is not American obviously, so his style might be very different on other fighters that Shakur has face in his last 3-4 fights. So if the over 7.5 has a good odds then why not?
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July 28, 2022, 10:47:21 AM |
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Shakur is really huge favorited and it makes me to bet him is really unprofitable, I think I wouldn't bet and only watch the fight.
Honestly I don't know why Shakur want to fight against Conceicao because he already enough power to beat other champions e.g. Joe Cordina and Roger Gutiérrez, so he will become undisputed champion on super featherweight division. I'm expecting a KO from Shakur on the late round 9 or above.
I also tend to agree Conceicao won that fight against Oscar Valdez, but in this fight he would completely lost against Shakur.
His probably targeting both champions later, this is just another step for him, different kind of style and see how he will adapt on Conceicao. I think if he gets over Conceicao just like how he dispose Valdez, both Cordina and Gutierrez will be an easy fight for him. Stevenson - 1.05 Conceicao - 9.60
The odds are very small for Shakur and I am also sure odds for the rounds will be over 10.5 rounds and very small too. If this was an ICO, it would be one of those scam pump and dumps that have been forgotten after the first pump hehehe. I don't think there will be much difference or change in the odds. Stevenson is taking over this division and as I have said, unification this might will happen. Perhaps just a question on how much money is involved against Cordina and Gutierrez. Edit: I also added a poll. The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon. I think you can put your vote on the outright victory instead of the KO/TKO options. I would guess the bookies might favor the under 7.5 rounds as opposed to the over. However, I think that they will listed the over/under at 10.5. Yes, the records of both shows that this might go to the distance, but we will see, I would love to see the odds on Shakur winning by KO/TKO, if that is attractive enough, I might go for it.
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July 28, 2022, 11:31:29 AM |
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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.
Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset.
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July 28, 2022, 12:11:52 PM |
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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.
Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset. I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez? What are your thoughts about that? A good boxer like Shakur doesn't underestimate their opponents, Herring and Valdez are two great fighters that he has beaten and gotten the belt. But Conceicao is an Olympian and so is Shakur, but yes, style makes fights, so I will give credit Conceicao is he can last the full 12 rounds without getting knock down or losing by knock out.
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July 28, 2022, 01:10:59 PM |
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The poll should include if the fight will finish and reach the decision. A big favorite like Shakur Stevenson would imply that he can knockout Robson Conceicao. However, if you look at their records I predict this will reach the decision. Also, where do you think or speculate thr sportsbooks will place the over and the under? 7.5 rounds? This implies over 7.5 rounds is a better bet thsn under, I reckon.
Conceicao is a tough guy he is a warrior but technically Stevenson is a much better fighter than Conceicao I don't think that Stevenson can knock out Conceicao but we never know, style makes the fight if both fighters will go all out we'll see a stoppage, Shakur cannot underestimate Conceicao he is still dangerous and had a good resume including the first Brazilian boxer to win an Olympic gold medal even though he is a heavy underdog and can still make a huge upset. I'm just thinking, maybe Conceicao might be tougher than Valdez? What are your thoughts about that? Maybe, because Robson "almost" beat Valdez in their fight. But it doesn't matter to Shakur though. In his mind, he can beat anyone at this division and could be looking for a unification fight iwith the other champions in the future. So as long as he can get the job done, then Valdez or Herring or even Conceicao can't win against the best version of Shakur right now. And it will be an intriguing that after unifying all the belts in 130 lbs, moving up in weight and then fight the likes of Tank Davis.
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July 28, 2022, 03:29:00 PM |
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I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner.
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July 31, 2022, 03:00:29 PM |
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If he is not comfortable anymore he should let go of the Junior Lightweight and become a full fledge lightweight, boxers should be in their comfortable weight when getting in the weigh-in without draining their body, it will have a bad impact on their performance, he will be in good contention fighting in the lightweight, a match with Haney will be good for his legacy, of course, he needs to get past Robson who is a very tough fighter.
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July 31, 2022, 10:15:57 PM |
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If he is not comfortable anymore he should let go of the Junior Lightweight and become a full fledge lightweight, boxers should be in their comfortable weight when getting in the weigh-in without draining their body, it will have a bad impact on their performance, he will be in good contention fighting in the lightweight, a match with Haney will be good for his legacy, of course, he needs to get past Robson who is a very tough fighter. For sure, if he feels that he is outgrowing this division and may have to go up and move up in weight. He already said that in previous interviews that he has plans to going up weight classes. But for now, he seems to be secured here. And as mentioned in the past articles, if he ever wins here, he might face either the WBA champion Roger Gutierrez or IBF Joe Cordina. So maybe that's his goal first, to unify all the belts before moving up to 135 lbs. division.
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August 01, 2022, 01:03:38 AM |
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I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner. The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8ToAnd he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds.
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August 01, 2022, 10:40:22 AM |
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I understand this because he has the best time of his life on lightweight division by being undisputed on his title. Higher division means more risky for him and his career so I doubt he will move division while he can be on same weight class like a king. But there is really a chance that he will moved because there a vacant spot on junior welterweight championship belt that waiting for owner. The fight that we are anticipating in 135 pounds will be him vs Tank Davis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvx82C8ToAnd he even calls out Davis, so that is a dream match. But in any case, Shakur should do his business here, clean the 130 pounds division first. I think he can beat Cordina and Gutierrez and have all the belts. And then go up one class above at 135 pounds. Of course, he should, if you want to excite the boxing community, the way to go is to call out the top boxer in that division, and only Tank Davis and Haney are the top names in that division he should also call out Haney, and you are right he should wipe the Junior Division first he can do that because he is the top name in that division he can pressure the other champions and promoters to do that before going up in the Lightweight, if he goes up in the lightweight division it will be one of the most exciting divisions in boxing.
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