[Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23

[Baofeng]

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

[Japinat]

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

[Kasabus]

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

That is a fact! Sports bookies are there to make some money out of the bettors while trying to confuse them, they are not there to make some losses. Anyway, I agree that it is not that surprising if Shakur will win, although his chances are not guaranteed as of now because there is always some chances of upset in any fight but that said chances are literally low and I have no doubt as well that he will.

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

[lionheart78]

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

Sports bookies have their research done on every boxer, they also consider the recent fight of the boxer and the caliber of their opponents.  Aside from that, I think they have a hold of the information that is not visible to ordinary people such as punching strength, present condition, etc.  So when they put odds on the match they have these factors and variables and end up with the odds that is favorable to the person who has more chance of winning.  Not saying, they also have possible insiders that gather more information on each boxer.

It is no doubt that Robson will be the underdog here since comparing how the two perform against Oscar Valdez (though it doesn't actually do the math on who is better of the two) Stevenson has his easy way to victory while Conceicao has a difficult time and a "controversial" loss.

[Fredomago]

^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

That is a fact! Sports bookies are there to make some money out of the bettors while trying to confuse them, they are not there to make some losses. Anyway, I agree that it is not that surprising if Shakur will win, although his chances are not guaranteed as of now because there is always some chances of upset in any fight but that said chances are literally low and I have no doubt as well that he will.

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Bookies understand how they can attract bettors. They are there to earn and not to lose money. They've got a system that gives the basis why they place odds in different sports events. In terms of this upcoming fight, they see the advantages of how both fighters fought from their previous fights and they base the possibilities with the performances of each fighter.

Though there's no guarantee and in this sport upset is always possible to happen, so picking your fighters defends from how you see the potential or edge not just because it was bookies favorite.

[bisdak40]

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

[Baofeng]

Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.

[TravelMug]

Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.

And it looks like Shakur is weight drain in this weigh-in? Doesn't the smile like Robson did. And to think that Robson is the taller, So we will see how Shakur will take this fight, maybe he knows that he will have a hard time shredding that extra 1.6 pounds so that he didn't bother to lose it.

And if Robson will upset him, definitely, he will have the belt. But if he losses, the belt is vacated so there could be another WBC and WBO title eliminator. And I think it will be Robson again vs Valdez.

[Kemarit]

He doesn't care about those two belts anymore, if he did then he would try to make a second attempt because he will be given that time in like two hours to make 130 lbs.

Definitely Stevenson is looking to go up against the big boys at 135 lbs. Not sure if he can immediately jump to challenge Davis because they are in a different promotions.

And it will be more of a mental thing for Shakur, he already lost his belt so maybe there is pressure for him to at least give his fans a good showing.

[bisdak40]

He doesn't care about those two belts anymore, if he did then he would try to make a second attempt because he will be given that time in like two hours to make 130 lbs.

Definitely Stevenson is looking to go up against the big boys at 135 lbs. Not sure if he can immediately jump to challenge Davis because they are in a different promotions.

And it will be more of a mental thing for Shakur, he already lost his belt so maybe there is pressure for him to at least give his fans a good showing.

He feel he may be weak during the fight if he forced himself to drain that excess baggage which for me is unprofessional on his side. His team should have known this even before the weigh in and do the necessary actions as to not compromise the championship belts. This only shows the lack of discipline on training this boxer had (just my thought), have seen Teofimo Lopez struggle or have weight problem but manage to made the scales against Kambosos.

On the brighter side, having Shakur on the lightweight division will add more excitement on this already entertaining division but i think he will start from scratch, i mean he will have to be a mandatory challenger for a title fight, championship fight will not be given to him i think. 

[inthelongrun]

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

[aioc]

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

[Yaunfitda]

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

Yes, no more unification fight for him because his body can't make 130 lbs without problems. So instead of defending his belt and make the weight, he decided to relinquished his 2 titles in this fight. Not sure if Robso though feels disrespected, or maybe there is a clause in this fight about getting over the limit and that the other party will pay. Anyhow, the fight is just 2 days away so we will see Shakur last fight at 130 lbs and then move up next for a more lucrative division.

[btc_angela]

These sports bookies rarely make some mistakes because putting the real underdog as a favorite will make them lost so much funds that they couldn't imagine as for sure bettors will take advantage of that if in case Shakur Stevenson here will be listed as an underdog.
The fight is approaching near and I won't be surprised that Shakur may go for a KO or TKO here to prove why he is the champion and not Robson. After that, I'm also curious what he'll say, will he climb or unify the belts first? That's what I want to know.

Or I guess we have the answers now. There will be unifying the other 2 belts are Shakur chooses to default his WBC/WBO belt because of the very reason that he can't make the weight no more at 130 lbs.

So when he jump to 135 lbs, it might be a tune up fight first, maybe rank 5-10 in the radar for him in this new division and see if he can cope with the power of a natural lightweight boxer. Shakur can't simply fight what he wanted, and that is Davis. He will have to go to a slow process before fighting Tank.

[aioc]

Hours before the fight and this is the result of our poll here among Bitcointalk members

Stevenson by decision   - 9 (45%)
Conceicao by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Stevenson by KO/TKO   - 11 (55%)
Conceicao by KO/TKO   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 20

The community did not give Robson Conceicao even one vote, Shakur Stevenson made the right decision of not compromising his health to retain the title, he still has a lot of great fights to make in the future and he doesn't want to gamble with his health, he will be a champion again.

[Hypnosis00]

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

Lots of boxers now have struggled to maintain their weight but it's always right moving up. Well, Shakur Stevenson is a great fighter, I'm sure he will become a champion again in a higher division, so it's alright if he will get stripped with his belt because fans understands he did not lose the fight.

[robelneo]

So Shakur Stevenson is stripped of his WBO and WBC belts. If Conceicao somehow manages to pull an upset then he can take the 2 belts. Although even if Shakur is having a hard time making the weight limit, I am still doubtful of an upset. For as long as Conceicao cannot make a clear win per round then he still can't take the judges' nods as Shakur is being built as the next big thing in boxing despite his lack of power.

After this fight, Shakur can take a tune-up at 135, and then he can take the winner of the Loma-Haney/Kambosos fight.

This is unfortunate but Shakur's health is more important than making a cut so he relinquished the title, I also believe that Shakur is far superior to Conceicao, Shakur will win this bout then he will move up a division that is loaded with talents, it's a good match up between any of the two Loma or Haney or even Ryan Garcia, it's good that he chooses to move up so he can test his skill on a division with a lot of skillful boxers and see if he can rule that division, this is a big challenge ahead for Shakur but he must first beat Conceicao decisively which I believe he can.

Lots of boxers now have struggled to maintain their weight but it's always right moving up. Well, Shakur Stevenson is a great fighter, I'm sure he will become a champion again in a higher division, so it's alright if he will get stripped with his belt because fans understands he did not lose the fight.

The division he is picking for another quest is loaded with a lot of great boxers, Haney, Loma, Kambosos, and Garcia and now himself, this is going to be the division to watch, and many great fights if they all agreed will happen here, I have this feeling that the division will revolve on these names, I hope to see Shakur face off against Garcia they are two thrash talkers and a match up will generate excitement and of course a lot of thrashtalks.

[Kasabus]

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

[bisdak40]

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

Better for him to start fighting non-popular boxers in the 135/140 division as a tune-up to see if he still has it in this new weight. He might be fast in the Super Featherweight but he can't be that fast when he moves up because of the added weight but I think he will adjust in future fights.

Back to his fight with Robson in the next few hours, i think there would ba a chance that he can knockout the lanky fighter since he will now be bigger and stronger, what do you think? Betting for him via knockout is @2.86 as of this writing, not bad and for me it is worth a try since i don't think Robson can beat him.

[Jating]

There is a high chance that Shakur will move to 135 pounds after this fight because it might be rumor for now but I guess that is one of their way to inform the public that he is already struggling to shrink his weight inside 130 pounds but I sure do hope that he is not thinking to fight Tank Davis in his debut in that said weight class, he should know what patience is.

Most likely that this will be the scenario if ever Shakur will win against Robson this weekend because there is not much left for him in this division, i mean the money fight is in the higher division. Fighting the likes of Garcia or Davis could be helpful in Shakur's young career because he is known as a defensive fighter who doesn't attract crowds and Bob Arum acknowledges that.

Too bad, Shakur won't be defending his belt anymore because he cannot meet the required weight, he exceeded almost 2 pounds with only few hours left from the weigh-in. Now, there's no holding him up from moving towards the lightweight division where there's money in almost every fight especially now that there's a lot of known good boxers in one stable.

I think he made the right decision not to force his body in the second weigh in and try to meet the required weight as it could be disastrous to him.

I just really hope that he won't be greedy enough to get Davis in his first fight, I mean, I know Shakur can manage but his chances against Tank Davis is literally low especially now that he is not used fighting in 135 lbs. yet. It might be best for him to fight Garcia first, I'm quite sure that money will rain even in that fight.

I doubt that Floyd and his team will allow his price pupil to simply fight Shakur. They have been carefully match making Tank throughout his career building him up so they don't want to be simply destroyed by the rising Shakur. It's better for him to just have a tune up up in 135 lbs first.