Crypto in Church.

[Agbe]

Well I may say it is a plus and  a part of the cypto currency awareness orientations that is going on in the world now. Really most religious preachers preached against crypto currencies base on ignorant while those religious leaders that understand how crpto currency works, accept it with a good faith. This campaign is not a one man job but for all the cypto currency users because we are trying to use crypto currency as the major coin to exchange goods and services, so if anyone is trying his or her best to propagate the currency, we should encourage the person. And I also believe that the pastor of the church will accept bitcoin in the offering and tithe box or probably he might open tithe or offering wallet in the church to promote the coin.

That not withstanding, We should also remember that not all the pastor in the alter are genuine pastors oh. Because by the right the pastor that the OP mentioned not supposed to teach people crypto currency in the church. He would have organized it outside the church. Now if this story is really true, the so called has blaspheme the church. That is, people will call that as a investment platform. As Christians, we can only give crypto testimonies and thanksgiving in the church but not using the church auditorium as a seminar center.

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[Hispo]

Judging for the few news I have seen about the position of some churches on Bitcoin here in South America, I'd say some churches/religion organizations value things like "trust" and "faith" greatly.

I recall an article I shared when I was new here in Bitcointalk about a pastor who openly said that Bitcoin was the mark of the beast or something like it, because trust was a Christian value and a trustless currency/system can't be Chirstian, for example.

So it depends on the branch of one's religion or even the personal opinion of one's pastor when comes to the "spiritual impact" Bitcoin has over us, it seems.

[Ucy]

Focus less on the reward/profit/money and more on it's principles & tech , which is expected to help the church be independent of evil system during the reign of global tyranny, persecution of the church, mass exodus from the system and possibly the enforcement of Revelation 13:17. This is why it's very important to always stick to True Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin with its strong principles. If you choose the fake or benefits from them, you may be left behind. So becareful what you choose. Love of money is root of all evil

[danadc]

I am of catholic religion, and something that I believe is that anyone who says that he needs money in the name of God is wrong, GOD does not want money, only that people accept it in their hearts, those priests or pastors who proclaim that they give their a tithe of a % of what they earn is for themselves, for God, to reach him you don't need money, I think that one of the things that should never be mixed is religion + money and politics, I think that's worse combination, it is much better than faith and what has to do with God is with God, the rest such as money should not be in agreement there.

[nullius]

Bitcoin is for everybody, so—sure, it’s good for churches.  Bitcoin is permissionless, so even Satan himself couldn’t censor their transactions.

I will note that religion has been in Bitcoin for a long time:  bitcult.faith

I don't like the idea of mixing religion with anything at all - politics, finance, educations, science. [...] Religious leaders shouldn't tell people how to live every aspect of their lives, its a recipe for disaster and a large number of wars and conflicts in the world stem from this to this day.

That is a repudiation of the whole concept of religion.

I am not quite defending religion here; and I am definitely not defending Christianity.  As to the latter, I agree with Nietzsche, “Ich verurteile das Christentum, ich erhebe gegen die christliche Kirche die furchtbarste aller Anklagen, die je ein Ankläger in den Mund genommen hat.  Sie ist mir die höchste aller denkbaren Korruptionen, sie hat den Willen zur letzten auch nur möglichen Korruption gehabt.”

However, I recognize that to be logically consistent and arguably sincere, religionists must take religion seriously.  A religion which is disconnected from “politics, finance, educations, science”, generally unimportant, and irrelevant to most aspects of a person’s life, is not a religion in any meaningful sense of the word.

To profess atheism is to proclaim that there are no gods.  To preach that religion should be rendered practically meaningless is to proclaim that even if there are any gods, they should be slapped in the face.

(Compare and contrast the commonplace proposition of liberal religionists who say that it doesn’t matter what you believe, as long as you believe in something of a mystical nature.  That is not only a repudiation of the concept of religion, but also a denial of the concept of truth; and it is to apotheosize irrationality.)

I can easily imagine a pastor shilling for some ICO or shitcoin for their personal profit. Maybe it even already happened.

Given the profitability of selling salvation, I would not be surprised.  But I think they will find it better to stick with Bitcoin.

[bitzizzix]

If only a few words spoken by the speaker because it has something to do with bitcoin or crypto and technology are discussed, I think it doesn't matter as long as there is no solicitation or incitement and the lecture is entirely about crypto or bitcoin.
because holy places like church or other is not the right place, unless you are talking about it in private or seminar which clearly knows what to talk about.
but as long as it's not misleading I think it's good and for the good of the people who hear it but explaining crypto or bitcoin is not as easy and fast as we think and must be at the right time and place and also with the right person.

[GiftedMAN]

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   

Imo, this is a plus to the crypto community and Bitcoin to be precise because in every institution that teaches about cryptocurrency the main focus is always Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the oldest and most accepted cryptocurrency.  The information given to the church members by the clergyman will help to encourage more people to worship in that particular church center because once the people who have been taught about the usefulness of Bitcoin and the financial freedom that it brings start practicing and enjoying the financial liberty in Bitcoin, they will spread the good news to others and more people will see more reasons to welcome Bitcoin as a means of their transaction and Bitcoin will continue to gain more popularity.

[theCommittalist]

Doesn't it say somewhere about the return of the messiah being a big surprise that most won't see coming? Like lightning over our heads, or a second sun moving east to west in the sky above? Like a thief in the night, when we least expect it? Maybe it's the Lightning network

Pennies from heaven.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

The pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere,

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?    

This is absolutely a great job done by the pastor and the professional, teaching the congregation about the basic key importance and knowledge of Bitcoin. I just wish the pastor was a member of the forum, because he would have definitely gotten 5 merits from me for such wonderful job well done. Because this is actually the kind of pastors we need now in this current hardship, a one that will give you update on how to be financially free here on Earth while he is preparing you to make heaven. It will likely reduce the rate of poverty in some countries.

I mean it's not a bad thing that's true, but are we talking about something that should be done by a priest? Don't get me wrong, anyone can do whatever they want personally, but when you have a job as a priest then you are responsible for something else other than people's money.

So if I should ask, Who is a priest? A priest is the spiritual father of the congregation, the one who intercedes on behave of the people to God and responsible for our spiritual well bring. So to me I see nothing wrong with a priest organizing a crypto class with his congregation to educate them on the new current trending topic of discussion @ "cryptocurrency".. Because I have seen churches who organize seminars on health talks whereby a Medical doctor is being invited to educate the congregation about healthy living at home on how to take proper care of there body, eat healthy food and best ways to prevent oneself from most common illnesses (HIV AIDS, Breast cancer, Kidney failure). And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on security, i.e how to be security conscious in the society. And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on skill acquisition and e.t.c.   So how then is it bad for a priest to organize seminars on cryptocurrency, a trending topic that has been a talk of the Town for the past 7-12years now, an have made many millionaire within a short while?.
So as long as the priest only educate the people, while they make the decision to either further or not, I clearly see nothing wrong with that

[lepbagong]

Teaching about cryptocurrency is good, because there are so many people who doesn't have awareness about the existence of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Guiding them to invest and profit too is good, but the same needs to be allowed on their personal interest. Because, with the learning he/she had through the session they should know decide whether to invest or not.

Some churches believe that cryptocurrency is bad, using it will not give you any good and it will be bad for your existence, that's just because they knew bitcoin in a bad way, they just need to be informed and we need to give them some knowledge that bitcoin and other alts are very good for the economy and we need to go with the flow of the technology, innovation is needed in this country.

there are still many religious leaders, both in Christianity and other religions, who have not fully explored and know crypto well, so it's only natural that there will be rejection, maybe even more extreme than just an appeal.

you may be right that there may be some churches that don't recommend anything crypto related.
the church should not need to interfere in whatever its people do in detail, the most important thing is information in general about the good and bad about what their people will do and not go into detail with the appeal about crypto.

because if it is detailed, it can be ascertained that there can be a wrong appeal because crypto can be good and it doesn't just depend on who does it.
so investing in crypto if it is run well it can provide benefits for those who do it without having to do something that is prohibited.

[uneng]

It's good religious people are adopting and learning about cryptocurrency, but the church isn't the appropriate place for this kind of apprenticeship. The preacher can incentive his community to persue wealthy and to thrive in life through Holy Bible, but can't mix religion with trading lessons.

For me it actually looks dangerous because his religious authority position can be misunderstood and have its meaning and purpose subverted. As we know, many crypto gurus attempt to impress the audience in order to profit over common people.

Unfortunatelly, in religious environments it's not different. There are many false prophets lurking around!

[GeorgeJohn]

I want ask what is the essence of title the caution of this crypto in church. Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion. Is it that you are advertising the pathways of cryptocurrency through religion? I want to really know the narrative of this text way of impacting knowledge or educating offspring who yet to adventure into cryptocurrency. We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.

[Cookdata]

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Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   

If this is all about bitcoin, a more than a welcome idea, people will get to know bitcoin even if they don't have the means to buy it now, the awareness will expose people to know that there is an alternative to their fiat money and nobody can restrict them when they want to use it but my problem with this kind of gathering is that they wouldn't tell them the necessary things they need to hear. I will be more than happy if they will tell them how their privacy is preserved to at least a bearest minimum, but you may be disappointed that among them, someone is there that prefers a PIE shitcoin to bitcoin because of what they read online.

[yohananaomi]

I want ask what is the essence of title the caution of this crypto in church. Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion. Is it that you are advertising the pathways of cryptocurrency through religion? I want to really know the narrative of this text way of impacting knowledge or educating offspring who yet to adventure into cryptocurrency. We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.

what is certain is that you are right mate, that there is no correlation between the church and crypto, because it is clear that the church is limited by rules that do not allow any investment, including crypto.
because the church was raised with the help of offerings from its congregation, so that the church does not need crypto, the church has been able to meet itself from the help of the congregation who always pays attention to all their needs.

[rby]

the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere

There are things needed to be clarified in other to avoid a second thought from people, i think using the word church here looks odd to me from your topic saying "crypto in church" i think this is wrong, first the reason been that you could have stated that a clergy man organises a crypto class, because saying crypto is being taught in church is wrong and i totally disaggree with that because it can compromise the standard and purpose of what the church stands for, another reason why i will stand against your topic is because you're making two wrong steps, first is posting about crypto on bitcoin discussion board, you could have use the word bitcoin or secondly make your post on altcoins discussion,  and talking about cryptos in general is a pool of shitcoins except for bitcoin.

I don't know how you arrived at all these you said. But I can say that you are the one thatvis wrong here and not the op.
Crypto is a new form of money and investment, how does it contradict anything if it's been taught in church. The church collects tithe and if I insist that I will pay my tithe with crypto, I know the church will give me an address.
If church organises seminars for other things  crypto shouldn't be a different.

When one use the word cryptocurrency doesn't mean it belongs to altcoins. Whether I use bitcoin or cryptocurrency, we all understand. The king is not in battle with anyone, he is bitcoin and he is the king of cryptocurrency and so he is also cryptocurrency.

[theCommittalist]

Bitcoin is open-source secure technology that functions as a decentralized currency on the internet for millions of people for over a decade. This is more about decentralization than encryption. Some forms of crypto use their encryption to conceal centralization as in scamcoins right? Let's face it, a working virtual currency is a very big deal for our internet age. Not just anyone could do it. Maybe the church has something to do with it? It is easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle, than to create an actually decentralized working currency for an information super highway

[OgNasty]

I couldn’t imagine my church having any sort of connection to Bitcoin. That’s a very odd pairing to me. I could maybe see them accepting Bitcoin donations but discussing it in church seems a bit much. If people are interested though and the knowledge is there, seems like sharing it is a good idea. I’d just hate to see this take people down a path where churches are pumping altcoins to try and bring in additional funds.

[dothebeats]

I would be open to agreeing with their intentions only if I don't know that these churches are also filled with corruption to their core. There is a local church here in the Philippines that is aggressively asking for tithes every month, like 10% of their salary. They made beautiful churches and did impressive projects, but to see that their leaders and figureheads are rolling with luxury cars and can afford houses worth millions, while their followers are living in poverty is something that offed me a lot. Also, religious teachings often always ask their followers to live frugally and just be a good person, but apparently the figureheads are exempted from this rule

It's good that they're trying to learn crypto, but IMO, religious sects should not engage in financial matters that much, and let other people handle it for them to keep their dignity and to follow their teachings like what they have on their books.

[nullius]

Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion.

As the self-appointed high priest of the god of Bitcoin, I must object:  Bitcult.Faith

We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.

Why not?  Are you aware of the wealth that churches have, and of the investments they make in other asset classes?

The pretense here that money has nothing to do with religion has encouraged me to update my cult’s tithing address.  For too long have I lived as if under genuine vows of poverty!  Hark, a vision:  The god of Bitcoin wants me to have some more of those bitcoins.  To fulfill this divine commandment, you must tithe only 10% of your income.

Money is, after all, one of the major purposes of religion.  Religion is the best business on Earth!  Perhaps I have sinned as a businessman, by never having sufficient greed.  But I do understand religion.  How should I best please divinity in a religion about money?  Should I preach about money, but not practice it?  Forsooth, an it be so, the god of Bitcoin may condemn me as a hypocrite!

I said it in 2017:

Most importantly, as a cult leader, I have the prerogative of taking advantage of my adoring followers financially (and the attractive female followers in other ways).

All hail the god of Bitcoin.

I would be open to agreeing with their intentions only if I don't know that these churches are also filled with corruption to their core. There is a local church here in the Philippines that is aggressively asking for tithes every month, like 10% of their salary. They made beautiful churches and did impressive projects, but to see that their leaders and figureheads are rolling with luxury cars and can afford houses worth millions, while their followers are living in poverty is something that offed me a lot. Also, religious teachings often always ask their followers to live frugally and just be a good person, but apparently the figureheads are exempted from this rule

Good idea.

For the record, I drafted the above about a 10% tithe on 2 August, when I updated my cult’s page—before you wrote this.  10% is a traditional tithe.

[n0ne]

It might seem silly, but this is what striked my mind. Possibly to receive offerings in the form of cryptocurrency the pastor of the church could've taken the initiative. So, that there is no issues with taxation and other problems. Apart this isn't the duty of the pastor. Nowadays everything is about money, they teach and preach for money and very few are truly spiritual. Anyhow in one way this seems good.