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Author Topic: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8  (Read 3587 times)
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August 31, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

If Ancajas wins this fight, he might probably plan to have a unification bout against Kazuto Ioka.  That would be the possible best course for him since Ioka would be a good match for him.  I do not think a trilogy sounds better than the Ancajas-Ioka fight.  That is if he wins and decided to stay in his current division.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Yeah, Ancajas needs to win first and if ever he did, I think fighting Ioka would give more money than the trilogy.
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August 31, 2022, 09:07:03 PM
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If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.


That's a good thing, it will bring more money and I'm sure that trilogy will attract more fans as that could possibly be the finale of this rivalry. I guess we should bet on Ancajas, he could win here to even this series if it's a best of 3 (considering trilogy) and he would also reclaim the belt.

He's on a mission to reclaim his belt so as fan better to place some spare money to add up with your entertainment while watching the fight, Ancajas will adjust and will do everything to bring back the belt and be the champion once again, if luck permits him he will earn a lot. He's still young and the chance of making more money is really possible, especially if promoters will see his potential.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Or he should go up in weight, for me his lost has something to do with him can't make the weight in his division. He might be weight drain during his first fight. Well there could be trilogy, but I'm not going to be interested on it. Maybe Ioka next, but if he has problems making the weight then for sure he might lost again.

Hopefully, he can win this fight, just enough to get his belt back and his confidence. Because the way he was beaten, it looks like Martinez is the champion that time because of his performance.

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August 31, 2022, 09:20:59 PM
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Or he should go up in weight, for me his lost has something to do with him can't make the weight in his division. He might be weight drain during his first fight. Well there could be trilogy, but I'm not going to be interested on it. Maybe Ioka next, but if he has problems making the weight then for sure he might lost again.

Hopefully, he can win this fight, just enough to get his belt back and his confidence. Because the way he was beaten, it looks like Martinez is the champion that time because of his performance.

That sound logical.  If a boxer is having difficulty to meet the weight requirement then he must move up. This reminds me of Manny Pacquiao.  Pacquiao had his first two losses because of having difficulty in meeting the required weight limit.  So it isn't surprising why Ancajas easily got exhausted during the first fight and got defeated.

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Pacquiao's weight increased from 106 to 113 pounds before losing in his twelfth bout against Rustico Torrecampo via third-round knockout. He was caught with a looping left hand flush on the chin which he couldn't get up from. Pacquiao failed to make the required weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves than Torrecampo, thereby putting him at a disadvantage.[35]
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However, Pacquiao lost the lineal title in his second defense against Medgoen Singsurat, also known as Medgoen 3K Battery, via third-round knockout. The bout was held in Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body, coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there. Prior to the fight, Pacquiao lost the WBC title at the scales as he surpassed the weight limit of 112 pounds.

Boxers need to be conditioned before fighting but if they think they will fail to meet the weight, they will do more exhausting activities that will greatly affect their fight.

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September 01, 2022, 10:26:18 PM
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

It literally means the same because winning in this rematch means that Ancajas can have that belt again and he will be a champion as well, that's just a simple mistake that cost Ancajas his throne but I bet that this time will be a much different scenario because this time, Ancajas will come prepared as he will train for Martinez.  The latter might be difficult to overcome but I believe Ancajas can still do it.

I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

If Ancajas wins this fight, he might probably plan to have a unification bout against Kazuto Ioka.  That would be the possible best course for him since Ioka would be a good match for him.  I do not think a trilogy sounds better than the Ancajas-Ioka fight.  That is if he wins and decided to stay in his current division.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Yeah, Ancajas needs to win first and if ever he did, I think fighting Ioka would give more money than the trilogy.

Every boxer will always seek to win in any way, whether it is for the unification fight against Ioka for having more fame, but in case he loses, things cannot go the wrong way or give up, if things can be complicated, but a boxer if he fights and loses it is because maybe he failed in his strategy or he did not prepare enough, for me there is no other reason, in this case Jerwin will do whatever it takes to win, he needs to win and have more fame, he also knows that if you win your doors will open to more fights and therefore if you need money you will undoubtedly get it, this is one of the things that can be taken into account when making a good bet.

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September 01, 2022, 11:15:08 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.
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September 02, 2022, 02:26:20 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.

If that's the only problem why he lost, then we can expect that he will give a good fight in this rematch, and who knows, he could get the belts and be a champion again. Plenty of time, we have over a month before we can see this fight, and hopefully the training of Ancajas will be more intense so he can have better stamina in the fight.
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September 02, 2022, 03:27:56 PM
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In this fight for sure the revenge of a Filipino boxer we will see in this upcoming October 8, 2022, this will be a second and right time to claim the belt in their division and Inassure that ancajas will make it. The team of ancajas already settled and monitor the health of their fighter to be better when the time has come. Also for ancajas right timing with good footwork and a speedy hands then for sure a knockout or easy win for him.
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September 02, 2022, 03:53:17 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable,

I think on that part, it was already Ancajas camp's priority list.

They hired a new nutritionist to take care of Ancajas' diet to prevent the struggles in the preparation during the first fight with Ramirez. Ancajas shows fatigue in that first fight because there's difficulty getting the catchweight required.

Now that the camp already knows the problem, for sure that will be addressed and they will make sure Ancajas is fully in shape for this rematch.

They are focusing on his health and the balance with the training that he's taking. It's very important to make sure that his body will move accordingly. Fighters always have that desire, but without good balance with his condition, it won't work. Ancajas team are working on this part. They've acknowledged that lapse from their last fight and they needed to adjust now and make things possible for him. Tha chase for winning back his belt is the important thing right now.

In this fight for sure the revenge of a Filipino boxer we will see in this upcoming October 8, 2022, this will be a second and right time to claim the belt in their division and Inassure that ancajas will make it. The team of ancajas already settled and monitor the health of their fighter to be better when the time has come. Also for ancajas right timing with good footwork and a speedy hands then for sure a knockout or easy win for him.

Still another month for his preparation and his dietarian are there to monitor his condition, again it's more on balancing his health and the training that he will be undergoing now. The rematch is very important in his career, better to work more and be ready to claim back his former title.

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September 02, 2022, 05:51:22 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

I guess we can call it that way, it's a faith that he can redeem what he lost in their first encounter while also supporting Ancajas regardless of the result because he is a fellow countrymen.

I think that fatigue we saw on Ancajas is a result after he met the required weight because days before the fight, he's still struggling to meet the weight needed while he is training in double as there's a last minute replacement which is Martinez. That's why he looks like he didn't have enough energy. But we'll see it this time as things could be much more different than their first fight.

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September 02, 2022, 07:59:09 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

The performance of Ancajas in his first fight with Martinez is greatly affected by his weight problem.  Instead of getting conditioned, he puts extra time, tiring himself to extract those excess weights.  I believe if his weight doesn't appear as a problem in this upcoming fight, we will be seeing a better Ancajas. 


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September 02, 2022, 09:37:18 PM
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I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

The performance of Ancajas in his first fight with Martinez is greatly affected by his weight problem.  Instead of getting conditioned, he puts extra time, tiring himself to extract those excess weights.  I believe if his weight doesn't appear as a problem in this upcoming fight, we will be seeing a better Ancajas. 

It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

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September 02, 2022, 09:58:11 PM
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.

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September 02, 2022, 10:20:33 PM
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.

Let us wait and see how effective their newly hired nutritionist will be.  I hope this nutritionist will solve the dietary requirements for Ancajas to be able to lose weight while still being 100% nourished, since exerting effort to lose weight alone isn't as effective as the one with nutritional aid.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

Casimero failed to defend his WBO belt twice against mandatory challenger Paul Butler.

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September 02, 2022, 10:40:37 PM
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It is has become a problem for him, then definitely it will have the same effect on his second fight. Unless he had someone to watch over his weight and not drastically lose everything like weeks before the actual fight. It should be gradual that his body will be like hone in with this weight, so it's really important to him besides his training regime. Otherwise, if they don't address this, and he come up making the weight but his body is really draining, then I see the same results.

The weight problem is really sensitive and it's hard to maintain the required weight once the boxer experiences struggling to catch it.

Remember John Riel Casimero? We always think that he is always in shape but guess what happened to him? Even though we saw him as a strong boxer, his weight problem resulted in him being stripped of his title.

We should trust now that the newly hired nutritionist, as mentioned above, will take care of Ancajas weight problem and will try to make him at his full 100% condition once he enters the ring now and face Martinez on this rematch.

Yes, Casimero should be the one fighting Inoue now hehehe.

Historically though, John Riel is known to have this weight issues, and he had to lost 10 lbs in days and was caught doing sauna by BBoC. Anyway, let's hope that Ancajas and his team learn fro this mistakes, they should do the right way of losing that weight safe for the boxers and not so drastic because it will have a bad effect on the boxers during their fight.

 
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September 02, 2022, 11:07:11 PM
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

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September 03, 2022, 08:32:44 AM
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

He just need to focus now with new strategy while maintaining his weight, more on sparring for him to be more ready on this upcoming fight. He manages to stand still and lose on the decision, but his movements and his combinations are being countered by Martinez. If he really aims to win back his belt, he needs to recreate his fighting style, additional aggressiveness with good conversions,

He needs to put extra efforts to corner Martinez and land a good solid punch, still have that skills but needs to have more body movements and that killing instinct to take down Martinez.

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September 03, 2022, 11:36:28 AM
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

So it's really on the burden of the trainer of Jerwin, he needs to ensure that he won't overtrain and will just be in the peak condition right before the fight itself. Maybe they think that having training volumes will cut his weight, but I don't think that is a good idea.

Again, they've seen their mistakes and saw how Martinez fights. This will be enough for them to make the necessary adjustment in weight, training volume and strategy so that Jerwin can get his belt back and then aim for Ioka in the future for unification.

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September 03, 2022, 11:42:11 AM
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

So it's really on the burden of the trainer of Jerwin, he needs to ensure that he won't overtrain and will just be in the peak condition right before the fight itself. Maybe they think that having training volumes will cut his weight, but I don't think that is a good idea.

Again, they've seen their mistakes and saw how Martinez fights. This will be enough for them to make the necessary adjustment in weight, training volume and strategy so that Jerwin can get his belt back and then aim for Ioka in the future for unification.

It's not a burden, it's his job and he is paid to do the job. They hire a capable one, so 90% of the time, they will achieve the desired result. Ancajas is trying to become a champion again, it's his only chance in this division, so he should make sure he will get a win and be reading for a possible trilogy.
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September 03, 2022, 12:07:29 PM
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I think it is the use of sauna that ban him from fighting and due to that, he was unable to defend his title twice which resulted in him being stripped of the title.

The bottom line is, that Casimero is having a weight problem issue that leads him to use the sauna. Aside from that, his camp was unaware of that policy under British Boxing Council. If only they are responsible, Casimero should be the one facing Inoue now. Don't want to happen the same situation with Jerwin Ancajas.

Back to topic, and as I previously posted here, Ancajas camp admits that they overtrained Jerwin just to meet the required weight.

That's why to solve that, they will cut Ancajas' training volume as one of the options to make him perfectly in good condition on the day of the fight.

So it's really on the burden of the trainer of Jerwin, he needs to ensure that he won't overtrain and will just be in the peak condition right before the fight itself. Maybe they think that having training volumes will cut his weight, but I don't think that is a good idea.

Again, they've seen their mistakes and saw how Martinez fights. This will be enough for them to make the necessary adjustment in weight, training volume and strategy so that Jerwin can get his belt back and then aim for Ioka in the future for unification.

It's not a burden, it's his job and he is paid to do the job. They hire a capable one, so 90% of the time, they will achieve the desired result. Ancajas is trying to become a champion again, it's his only chance in this division, so he should make sure he will get a win and be reading for a possible trilogy.

Exactly, they have enough time to prepare for this fight, so there's no more excuse for them if Ancajas loses again. I'm with Ancajas for revenge, but we cannot deny how strong Fernando Martinez is, so if the camp of Ancajas is not going to work hard, their chance is not going to increase.

How about the odds, when are we going to see it?


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September 03, 2022, 02:01:12 PM
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Exactly, they have enough time to prepare for this fight, so there's no more excuse for them if Ancajas loses again. I'm with Ancajas for revenge, but we cannot deny how strong Fernando Martinez is, so if the camp of Ancajas is not going to work hard, their chance is not going to increase.

How about the odds, when are we going to see it?

Right, Jerwin Ancajas' team has enough time to prepare for this. They also have notes on their mistakes in the first match. In case of a loss, although I don't want that to happen, they should admit that it's a real loss and don't mention any excuses. It does mean that Fernando Martinez is really a tough opponent.

The match with Ioka is not possible now if Ancajas will lose. I also don't think that stepping up weight will regain his reputation. It's good to move up weight after a winning match instead of losing 2 times in a row and just to avoid Martinez in the future, he will jump on another division.

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