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July 17, 2023, 11:48:27 PM
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I was think about storing emergency supplies for 2 people.

How affordable is it to store enough food and water for myself and my wife.

A few years ago hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey hard and the shelfs were bare.

Pandemic came and lots of shortages.

So could I reasonable store 30 days of food and water for my wife and I.

How much space?
How much food ?
 how much water?

propane?

I am a diabetic so I use high protein and fat low carb diet.

30 days means
30 cans of chicken
10 cans of tomatoes
10 cans of chickpeas
10 cans of cannaelli beans

10 pounds of roasted peanuts
 5 pounds of walnuts
5 pounds of almonds

a bottle of multi vitamins

and 100 ½ liter bottles of water
a dozen cans of peaches
a dozen cans of pears
some parmalot as it keeps
some cereal

The above should do the trick for my wife and I. For maybe 45 days.

I can afford to have the above list I am thinking a lot of people can’t.

So how exposed are people to a solid disaster.




No fresh meat
No dairy since refrigerated goods may be gone.


I would think most of the world is a short time away from real food issues if food shopping is shut down.

your thoughts and ideas are welcome.

That is a great plan. We never know when will the natural calamity or another pandemic will occur. Like what happened during the pandemic when the government declared the restrictions during the pandemic, it restricted the people of going out and it ends out people in a panic buying situations because they were not able to store foods and other necessities they needed. Same with calamity like hurricane, earthquake etc. How lucky are the people who can store and save food in times of calamity and pandemic, Because a lot of people do not have the capacity to buy excess food for storing in times of calamity and pandemic. But as for me i will store some food in preparation for calamity and pandemic little by little. As per your lists above just in case calamity and pandemic will not occur maybe you can consume them before they reach expiry and make it a point that you will buy some replacement so that food you stored will not go to waste.

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July 18, 2023, 02:03:23 AM
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The level of food we needed in life is unlimited I think because we need enough in our daily lives
When there is sufficient of food we are okay and we feel alive but when it gets exhausted I think there is a problem
The only estimation your can give on food is the meal that can make up your day neglecting the next day because surely you must eat
It is advisable to store as much as available food because it is a source of energy





Yes you are right because as day goes by our need increases we need enough food to survive that's why people work 24/7 in other to provide for their various families.
Most time we misunderstand the main reason why we work all day, the only reason I can see is to afford food and other items needed for our personal hygiene
Working all day is not the ideal job and for me it's important to keep a balance,
indeed we need money to make ends meet but if we work like 24/7 it might create new problems such as experiencing body pain or something else,
it is also important to manage our work.

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July 18, 2023, 10:21:01 AM
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Working all day is not the ideal job and for me it's important to keep a balance,
indeed we need money to make ends meet but if we work like 24/7 it might create new problems such as experiencing body pain or something else,
it is also important to manage our work.
Yes, of course we have to be prepared for that if we don't have an investment or a business that provides income every day for us.
But what is most realistic in my opinion is that we have to work and save regardless of what we are going to do with those savings for the future, but in life we do have to be on guard for unpredictable emergency expenses.
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July 18, 2023, 02:37:51 PM
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To be able to survive, of course, we must have a lot of food stocks, ideally if something bad happens, for example a war, we need more food stocks, but if the situation is safe, stocks for only a few days are better because the food is fresher.
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July 19, 2023, 07:51:05 PM
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Working all day is not the ideal job and for me it's important to keep a balance,
indeed we need money to make ends meet but if we work like 24/7 it might create new problems such as experiencing body pain or something else,
it is also important to manage our work.
More precisely what you said was not to manage work, but rather to manage work time for everyone. Because when someone works more hours, it is certain that he will experience more fatigue, although sometimes this can also affect more income. But not always those who work more hours can get more income because there are also people in life who work more hours just because they have less income so they try to earn more by using their time excessively.

Yes, of course we have to be prepared for that if we don't have an investment or a business that provides income every day for us.
But what is most realistic in my opinion is that we have to work and save regardless of what we are going to do with those savings for the future, but in life we do have to be on guard for unpredictable emergency expenses.
This is more about how to use time at work along with utilizing existing income for business and investment matters so that a person does not have to spend more time working all day long which in the end can be bad for his body's health. So besides having to be smart in choosing a worker who has more income benefits, less time considerations must also be considered because it also has benefits for our own health.

To be able to survive, of course, we must have a lot of food stocks, ideally if something bad happens, for example a war, we need more food stocks, but if the situation is safe, stocks for only a few days are better because the food is fresher.
Stocking up more food for life also requires a lot of capital money so you basically also have to have a job that can give you money so you can stock up on food the way you want because now it's very difficult to get food for free every day . So the basic roots remain in jobs that can make money before someone does something good for his own life.

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July 19, 2023, 07:57:54 PM
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Buying more bitcoin is profitable but try to save some amount of cash for emerged purposes as you will need it and you will not be able to sell your bitcoin  at the time when the price will down. You buy bitcoin at a good price and I hope you will have still hold your bitcoin for profit so if you have then you will definitely achieve maximum amount of profit now as the price of bitcoin is above 31k$.

You will see more opportunities to get more revenue as the price goes more up during halving therefore try to be patience and wait some more to be a wealthy person. Bitcoin investor surely get the desire outcomes during the favourable condition so wait few months more to see how profitable investment it is.

If the internet goes down - and it's entirely possible - your bitcoin savings will become nothing. And you won't be able to eat bitcoin. It's intangible. So you simply need to have a two to three month supply of food. And you need to constantly be updating it.
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July 19, 2023, 08:21:51 PM
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Well I think you need to tell us your food consumption rate ad also how is that if your wife like then I think a conclusion can be drawn, although when eating now without any restrictions is different from when eating for survival only, I think you are more rational in the later than the former.

So this is how I think the math Can go, you calculate your intake, starting any time and after 7day you can be able to have a record of what you eat normally in a week and then after that you can divide that and estimate how much food you have to store for 30 day to survive.

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July 19, 2023, 08:29:48 PM
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I was think about storing emergency supplies for 2 people.

How affordable is it to store enough food and water for myself and my wife.

A few years ago hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey hard and the shelfs were bare.

Pandemic came and lots of shortages.

So could I reasonable store 30 days of food and water for my wife and I.

How much space?
How much food ?
 how much water?

propane?

I am a diabetic so I use high protein and fat low carb diet.

30 days means
30 cans of chicken
10 cans of tomatoes
10 cans of chickpeas
10 cans of cannaelli beans

10 pounds of roasted peanuts
 5 pounds of walnuts
5 pounds of almonds

a bottle of multi vitamins

and 100 ½ liter bottles of water
a dozen cans of peaches
a dozen cans of pears
some parmalot as it keeps
some cereal

The above should do the trick for my wife and I. For maybe 45 days.

I can afford to have the above list I am thinking a lot of people can’t.

So how exposed are people to a solid disaster.




No fresh meat
No dairy since refrigerated goods may be gone.


I would think most of the world is a short time away from real food issues if food shopping is shut down.

your thoughts and ideas are welcome.
Rule of thumb you should always store upwards of 3 months especially if its to prepare for disaster aftermaths like hurricanes and earthquakes. It's reasonable to think that things will get better in a month anyway but if you're struck at ground zero recovery will take longer so just to be safe, save some for yourself and your family for as longer as possible. As for the price, while I'm not really sure how much things are exactly in the US, in the country where I live it's within upwards of 800 bucks for 3 months of canned food and goods as well as sanitary kits and other important stuff. If ever, it may cost you guys upwards of I guess a thousand to 1600 bucks in the US.

You can't put a price on the safety and security of your family anyway so I don't think you should cheap out especially in stuff like these.

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July 20, 2023, 10:52:25 AM
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I'm thinking the same since the crisis is resulting to food shortage. I'm even thinking of moving first to my cousin who live near the lake. Where we could have unlimited fish to catch. And if in case there really is a war coming. Really worried if all these will escalate to a level where there is no U turn. You never know how long it will take.

Don't you think a water purifier will give you more advantage than keeping 100liters?  I'm thinking of putting all the stored food inside a van where you can travel with you wife because this is what I have in mind.

The more you could store I think if you go for dried food vs canned goods. I tried some in a vacuumed plastic and put them all storage box, this will keep you more than 30 days.  But of course you  still need some canned goods. First aid kit and medicines like antibiotic and for flu. I could be overthinking this already but its best to prepare.



I was thinking of dried food as well. It's easier to consume and store, also allows you a bigger space for other food supplies since it will only take a small portion for storage.

And yes, it is always better to be ready or at least just have a general idea of what to do in case something such as what op posted happens.

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I guess seems as you can and possible we know that in this cases scenario there's a lot of things might happen and might cause for the shortage of the supply so the number of people will surely hoarding too and accumulate them as many as they can get so they can survive, on this you need to make a budget for the meal and the supply to make sure you can survive, if this number of supply is not enough already before its already gone make sure you can find another source, we don't know until it will last long so for your family make sure you are knowledgeable what are the essential more things, the government sure will provide a services needs to their community to help you. Also the body can use alternative way of using source of energy if you don't have any.

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I am a person who is not too afraid of tomorrow because I believe that tomorrow will be a great day, many people are too afraid of the future so they do everything including storing groceries in the warehouse, and I think this is a waste because when we want to use it The quality of the food is reduced.


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July 20, 2023, 03:07:32 PM
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I think as much as we can, depends on how big or small the house is. You need a big storage if you want to store a lot water and foods, you need to have a good security too otherwise a criminal would steal your foods.

I am a person who is not too afraid of tomorrow because I believe that tomorrow will be a great day, many people are too afraid of the future so they do everything including storing groceries in the warehouse, and I think this is a waste because when we want to use it The quality of the food is reduced.
Did your forget about corona virus in 3 years ago? I don't think 2 years old baby can know Bitcointalk and write a post.

Many people were panic buying a lot foods, toilet paper, mask, hand sanitizer, vitamin C, etc at that time. Many people were lost their jobs, if you were one of them and don't have any saving, you wouldn't post like this.

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July 20, 2023, 03:43:08 PM
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I am a person who is not too afraid of tomorrow because I believe that tomorrow will be a great day, many people are too afraid of the future so they do everything including storing groceries in the warehouse, and I think this is a waste because when we want to use it The quality of the food is reduced.
This seems positive, but we realize this when the pandemic hits: it is not working all the time because if you haven't stored much food at that time and you just buy it by tomorrow, you'll be left with nothing to eat. It is best to be ready with just food that can last a week or even just a few days because it saves you money and also saves you time. Also, you won't be buying any food that only lasts for a day, so make sure that you put it in the refrigerator to preserve it.
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July 20, 2023, 04:04:23 PM
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We already did it when the conflict hit in the province where I live, the status of military operation that was imposed in our area gave people unable to work as usual. Most of the people in my village prefer producing food rather than storing food to survive. We have to be super active in utilizing the empty land around our house, such as planting rice, tomatoes, chilies, pumpkins and other young plants whose fruits and leaves are edible.
In addition, keeping poultry such as chickens and ducks is a must because fresh fish is very hard to come by due to the limited number of fishermen looking for fish. With the availability of basic needs that are produced from the garden, we can enjoy fresh food every day without having to spend money to buy it.
That's how we do to survive in difficult situations.

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I am a diabetic so I use high protein and fat low carb diet.
I'm an IFBB Pro and I follow the same diet too Cheesy High Protein, High fat (healthy fats) and low carb diet when I want to keep my bodyfat levels low and look shredded.
By the way, maybe you already do this but keep in mind that high protein diet damages kidneys and control your creatinine levels.

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99.99% of multivitamins are a waste of money, time and health. I suggest you to buy certain vitamins/minerals that you lack and always do research to determine which form of that certain vitamin/mineral is absorbed by the body.
For example, we all lack magnesium and it's better to supplement with it every day but the problem is that most magnesium forms aren't absorbed. For example, when you buy magnesium oxide, you are wasting your money because body can't absorb it well, in this case, you better buy Magnesium Glycinate or Bisglycinate.
If you want to buy Zinc, you better buy Zinc Picolinate to get the most out of it.
If you want to buy L-carnitine, you better buy L-carnitine-l-tartrate. Or probably Acetyl-L-carnitine if you mostly want to take care of mental health instead of physical bodyfat.
By the way, the only multivitamins that I know is really good compared to others, is Pure Encapsulation's O.N.E™ Multivitamin.


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I am a person who is not too afraid of tomorrow because I believe that tomorrow will be a great day, many people are too afraid of the future so they do everything including storing groceries in the warehouse, and I think this is a waste because when we want to use it The quality of the food is reduced.
Storage of goods in the form of food must also be chosen accordingly so as not to store them excessively, because if it is to meet daily needs which can be obtained at a cheaper price, I think it is also not wrong if someone wants to store them in moderation in a safe place. does not reduce the quality of the food itself. I also agree with what you said on the point of waste if it is stored in excess, but if it is only stored as needed, I think that is a very reasonable thing and is not included in the waste.

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This is a good topic. I’m not embarrassed to admit that I’m a bit of a prepper myself. I’m moving soon and will have more space to store things so I’ve been asking myself these same questions lately too. I’ve got a bug out kit set up for a small journey and I keep those “survival” meal bars that last for several years in my bag. I imagine some preppers would recommend storing some of those bars amongst other things. Their main deal is being high in everything so if you’re really in need of substance these things will fill you with proper fats/cals, proteins, carbs etc.


Wow, I can't believe it's been almost exactly one year since I wrote this post. 

As I mention above, I'm a bit of a prepper myself and over the course of this past year I have moved, and I do have a lot more space to store things in case the economy or even the world goes belly up, but I've run in to a few tough situations. 

For one, my basement is quite damp.  I do run a dehumidifier 24/7, and I know this helps, but I still fear for long term storage. 

What I wanted to ask today is, does anyone know of good sites that sell pre-made food kids that are actually affordable?

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July 20, 2023, 11:17:28 PM
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Reserves are good preventative measures, they can deal with any number of possible mishaps. In countries with significant risks of all kinds, they are highly used tools.. but that is for those who have the possibility, generally many people do not and this is reflected in many ways, as mentioned in previous comments. Also in your case you require a special diet due to your health condition. I am a bit ignorant about these issues, but I can say a couple of things with certainty, sometimes as the pandemic has shown, a reserve for 45 days is not enough and in the same way many people put nutrition aside to prioritize survival in scenarios like this, it all depends on the particular conditions of each person
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July 21, 2023, 01:11:31 AM
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I was think about storing emergency supplies for 2 people.

How affordable is it to store enough food and water for myself and my wife.

A few years ago hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey hard and the shelfs were bare.

Pandemic came and lots of shortages.

So could I reasonable store 30 days of food and water for my wife and I.

How much space?
How much food ?
 how much water?

propane?

I am a diabetic so I use high protein and fat low carb diet.

30 days means
30 cans of chicken
10 cans of tomatoes
10 cans of chickpeas
10 cans of cannaelli beans

10 pounds of roasted peanuts
 5 pounds of walnuts
5 pounds of almonds

a bottle of multi vitamins

and 100 ½ liter bottles of water
a dozen cans of peaches
a dozen cans of pears
some parmalot as it keeps
some cereal

The above should do the trick for my wife and I. For maybe 45 days.

I can afford to have the above list I am thinking a lot of people can’t.

So how exposed are people to a solid disaster.




No fresh meat
No dairy since refrigerated goods may be gone.


I would think most of the world is a short time away from real food issues if food shopping is shut down.

your thoughts and ideas are welcome.

That is a good plan for the upcoming pandemic or even a natural calamity. Even me i would do the same because we never know when will be the next calamity or pandemic will occur. Based on your plan I think 30 days stocking would be good enough to sustain your needs  in times of calamities. We really must think and plan ahead of time before something serious calamity might occur.



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