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August 06, 2022, 09:01:47 AM |
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I think paying people to give us information is a wrong opinion, I think if we want to earn, we have to work hard ourselves, don't depend on other people, because if we depend on other people we won't be able to do anything in the future day. so in my opinion if we want to produce hard study then we will find what we want, and surely from the results of our own hard work it will produce something good.
There's no difference from those groups that are doing pump and dump of shitcoins. And why are you targeting the rich? They're already rich enough and that's why they're getting richer. That amount you've said is already a lot and no fool will do that.
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
realy mate do you really think it's possible to happen? Lol sounds funny tbh especially that amount where in much better to invest it than spend it because surely there's a good return after all.. And even we pay for whales to give us information how can you assure that it's safe and can give us good profits? Because i know some whales that trading in the market and sometimes they made losses as well.. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) and there's a bunch of whales and most of them that really control the market are anonymous.. So it didn't make sense to spend such amount of money in order to get information and to become profitable.. Much better to learn on your own because it's free in the internet. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) whales like us, sometimes losing money, going bankrupt, watching 3ac the largest whale investment fund in the market also die there are no guarantees in this market with that monthly amount, i think we are more than enough to trade on our own, we can learn and train at the same time and I believe we will quickly become professional investors there is no better way to do business or invest than to rely on yourself, learn on your own, gain knowledge and gain experience
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August 06, 2022, 04:45:50 PM |
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I think paying people to give us information is a wrong opinion, I think if we want to earn, we have to work hard ourselves, don't depend on other people, because if we depend on other people we won't be able to do anything in the future day. so in my opinion if we want to produce hard study then we will find what we want, and surely from the results of our own hard work it will produce something good.
and in the first place, even if we say they are one of the big holders of btc, it doesn't mean that they have the major influence in the market movement. it is not an innovative idea by the OP by any means. in this market, you don't need to pay someone to assure your profits. that's not gonna happen. why not study the market, watch out for valuable coins, don't get involve in hype up coins, learn some technical analyses? Suffice to agree with what you said, because if you look at people who have been in the trading world and see from some of the experiences I've had, trusting others only makes hope false there considering that in this kind of thing no one can really be relied on except yourself. alone. I prefer the analysis and research that I do rather than claiming someone can be good at trading because indeed when they say things like that and follow their path when they lose, it is clear that there will be an assumption that we feel like we have been cheated even though we are the ones who don't really believe in ourselves and more dependent on others. If we trade too much relying on other people's opinions, then we must be prepared to experience disappointment and losses. Because after all it's not a good idea to make a profit by relying on the signals given by other people. That's why until now I have never trusted a paid or free trading group to be able to make a profit. It is clear that most trading groups only benefit the group owner, then the best way to make a profit from trading is to rely on our own ability to analyze the market. So don't be lazy to learn how to do the right research and analysis, because the only thing we can trust is the results of our own research and analysis.
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If we trade too much relying on other people's opinions, then we must be prepared to experience disappointment and losses. Don't you realize that 8 out of 10 beginners may prefer to invest because of the hype? They want to get rich quick, but don't have a true understanding of how the market works. They would think of such ridiculous things because they thought it could help them earn big profits. Nothing is truly profitable when they have no intention of learning about how they can make their own profit in the market. Expecting someone else's analysis is never really recommended, unless they suggest bitcoin instead of random altcoin.
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August 07, 2022, 01:13:34 AM |
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If we trade too much relying on other people's opinions, then we must be prepared to experience disappointment and losses. Don't you realize that 8 out of 10 beginners may prefer to invest because of the hype? They want to get rich quick, but don't have a true understanding of how the market works. They would think of such ridiculous things because they thought it could help them earn big profits. Nothing is truly profitable when they have no intention of learning about how they can make their own profit in the market. Expecting someone else's analysis is never really recommended, unless they suggest bitcoin instead of random altcoin. A great deal of the newbies don't understand that the only people in which we can rely on is ourselves, it may seem attractive to follow the advice of someone else because that will save us all the time and the effort that we will need to spend trying to learn how to trade the markets, but unfortunately something like this is not possible, and this means that all of those people that try to follow that formula are going to be incredibly disappointed by the results that they get.
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August 07, 2022, 07:18:55 PM |
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Suffice to agree with what you said, because if you look at people who have been in the trading world and see from some of the experiences I've had, trusting others only makes hope false there considering that in this kind of thing no one can really be relied on except yourself. alone. I prefer the analysis and research that I do rather than claiming someone can be good at trading because indeed when they say things like that and follow their path when they lose, it is clear that there will be an assumption that we feel like we have been cheated even though we are the ones who don't really believe in ourselves and more dependent on others.
If we trade too much relying on other people's opinions, then we must be prepared to experience disappointment and losses. Because after all it's not a good idea to make a profit by relying on the signals given by other people. That's why until now I have never trusted a paid or free trading group to be able to make a profit. It is clear that most trading groups only benefit the group owner, then the best way to make a profit from trading is to rely on our own ability to analyze the market. So don't be lazy to learn how to do the right research and analysis, because the only thing we can trust is the results of our own research and analysis. Seeing what others are doing may be possible but obviously there must be further consideration there and it must be accompanied by the research we do. Keep in mind that trading requires skill and careful observation so that we don't get stuck there. Btw I agree with what you said about groups relying on signals with the lure of profits will only make us look like fools for not believing in ourselves.
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
Sorry mate but i think your idea is quite absurd, and certainly not going to work. Just imagine such a huge amount will be gone just to reach out for that biggest whale, and we're not even sure if his own idea may work too. Probably, if we do that, its like we're gambling our hard earned money and i won't encourage everyone to risk for that. If we want to make profits, then let's study the market well so we can create good market analysis afterwards.
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August 10, 2022, 03:31:30 AM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
500,000$ Is a lot of money and also we are not sure if this whales really know when is the next pump. And i am really shookt 500,000$ monthly is really a big money and also you are not even sure if you can make that kind of money every month. For me in my perspective this is not a good idea, i will be learning instead paying 500,000$ a month to those whales. Learning is good, and knowledge is power in the world of trading.
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To get a good idea of both investment and trading, remember to read and understand the terms and conditions of the platform first of all for the details of whichever platform you trade. Also whatever you do, do it at your own risk also you can follow or emulate those who are the best traders if you want but own skills are most effective.
Investments or trades made are your own responsibility and risk. So before you really want to make a profit, you must know what to prepare. expertise in trading is about how to do technical and fundamental analysis, so as not to depend on others. Your own skills are paramount, so keep practicing your own abilities so you can make a profit from your own hands.
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To get a good idea of both investment and trading, remember to read and understand the terms and conditions of the platform first of all for the details of whichever platform you trade. Also whatever you do, do it at your own risk also you can follow or emulate those who are the best traders if you want but own skills are most effective.
Investments or trades made are your own responsibility and risk. So before you really want to make a profit, you must know what to prepare. expertise in trading is about how to do technical and fundamental analysis, so as not to depend on others. Your own skills are paramount, so keep practicing your own abilities so you can make a profit from your own hands. The people that come to this market only think of the benefits and freedoms they can enjoy by joining this market, but they forget that with this newfound freedom they also need to carry huge responsibilities as well, and this means that if they want to invest in this market they are free to do it but they also need to accept the fact they are 100% responsible for the results they get and any attempt to try to give up that responsibility will likely end up in disaster.
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August 10, 2022, 01:11:24 PM |
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To get a good idea of both investment and trading, remember to read and understand the terms and conditions of the platform first of all for the details of whichever platform you trade. Also whatever you do, do it at your own risk also you can follow or emulate those who are the best traders if you want but own skills are most effective.
Yes it’s best to take the responsibility on yourself while investing or trading with own money. I mean if you get profits from the trade, then you will praise the person or the company through which you bought the coins, but if by chance you lose it, then the whole life you will blame him or them. Also as always said earlier, no one shares the secret on how to make money. If they were actually making that much amount of money through that, then they would have got rich by it. No need of sharing the strategy or the tips.
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August 11, 2022, 03:23:06 PM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
Can I ask you mate? why did you think of such a method? You know because we are in the cryptocurrency business industry, where we have trading here that is a way to make money in altcoins or crypto not in the way you think. Although we all know here that the main way to earn in crypto is to do trading, and the other is to offer their skills to pay them with cryptocurrency for the service they can provide something like that anyway.
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August 11, 2022, 08:43:29 PM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
That won’t work for us since we are giving them the best advantage, letting them take away our own hard-earned money without guarantee that we will profit in return. Kinda like absurd like you are making them richer and leaving us poorer and poorer. So if we want to make profits, then making shortcuts will never do that. Always learn the market the hard way and get more experiences that will build your skills and strategies, that way you will be productive later on.
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August 11, 2022, 11:01:29 PM |
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I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Do you think they need this if they can earn much more money? hahaha so funny. No need to do a useless things here for grayscale Let them do what they like to do. And let them do what we can do. This is not only about their influence on the crypto market. But, this is too complicated. What we need to do is by focusing on whatever we're doing. If we are trading, we can utilize every technical analysis and also fundamental analysis to help to trade in order to earn profits. If we are a holder, we can keep holding the coins until the price that we target is done. Just do what we will do. No need to think about paying the grayscale money to make this market stable, not making other big news, and others. They don't need it. they are big and they only focus on them.
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August 11, 2022, 11:26:11 PM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
Can I ask you mate? why did you think of such a method? You know because we are in the cryptocurrency business industry, where we have trading here that is a way to make money in altcoins or crypto not in the way you think. Although we all know here that the main way to earn in crypto is to do trading, and the other is to offer their skills to pay them with cryptocurrency for the service they can provide something like that anyway. Did he really think that the whales would spare our money just because we planned to give it to them? And besides of that, if someone knew when would be the market is going to pump then who will gonna take the losses? I don't know if OP is thinking or not but the idea just came out of nowhere. Lol Trading consist of winning and losing so that there will be gainers and losers. A plan like that wouldn't work IMO unless of they would agree but it's also unfair to the other traders. So, it's basically a way to destroy trading industry because of the way they want to earn.
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It is a good idea if you make trade not only with the bitcoin market there's alot of opportunity to grab within, like make a profit with the altcoins and make dive into a different projects you can earn a token but if you want to pursue trading make a chance with the swings and small trades even though not all the time the market is volatile still theres a chance to grab for the sideways but of course trading is also a waiting game wait for your entry.
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August 11, 2022, 11:50:42 PM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
What just we did is trying to manipulate these whales and take actions in favor of us which is not how the market works. You are trying to make trading like politics where we can bribe other people just to have their faith in us. NO, whales are smarter than you and besides, they don't have the capability to control the market. I'd see no fairness in this and only a greedy person can just think about this strategy. I hope this never happens so everyone will enjoy the volatility of the market.
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August 12, 2022, 08:34:07 AM |
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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves. Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do
Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here
This is actually my first time hearing the name "Grayscale" and I quickly just made my research online and got to know that Grayscale is the largest digital currency asset manager with over 579k active followers on Twitter which helps investors build their digital asset portfolios. So this suggestion is a nice idea to pay them to give us correct information and signal on market whales, but one problem with big companies like this is that when they get trusted with bigger funds, they tend to fold up and run away with it. So this suggestion is a big risk (that's my opinion).. I don't know of others
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AicecreaME
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I'm more interested on how to make that $500,000 and keeping that to myself that I'm gonna use in trading just myself. Why bother on whales if you could make your own profits. The problem here is that most of the newbie traders wants an instant millionaire life overnight, there's no such thing. Trading is about commitment, dedication, and perseverance, if you don't have those, for sure you'll just burn your money in trading.
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