Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling

[harizen]

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

[AicecreaME]

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That's right. The main idea of such streams is to increase recognition of a gambling site among the audience who is interested in gambling. I have heard many times that streamers play for the money of a gambling site and get extra money for streaming. And it is quite a lot of money. That is why streamers with a large audience are increasingly involved in this kind of promotion.

As long as you have a streaming media platform that has a lot of followers, it can have a good influence on companies that may be able to give gifts to you or can collaborate to provide advertisements or solicitation of followers for a large enough fee, but you have to be careful because there are several gambling establishments that have been hit by cases and can have a bad impact on influencers.

I agree with this. Streamers and influencers must be wary of the things they advertise and promote so that it won't backfire to them. It's always better to be cautious than be impulsive just because of money. There are cases and things that could make a person's reputation be at stake if ever they will going to endorse it. Hence, background checking is a must and greed should never be prioritized.

[dothebeats]

Even though the funds seems sponsored the streamers are having real life experience and generating contents for their viewers who get enticed with their huge wins. If the funds are sponsored as claimed then there must always be terms and conditions that will govern how this huge wins gets credited.  But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote. The key take away is how much the sell this contents to their target audience and with less regards if the funds were sponsored or not

Pretty sure that this possibility has already been explored before the streamer and the platform agree on the contract. The goal of the streamer is to entertain and possibly, attract people to play. How would they do that if they aren't winning on the platform? Surely the casino owners also have a say on how the wins will happen, and that is where the magic happens on the platform. Doesn't matter if everything is sponsored or not. Streamer and platform already had it locked before the streamer even goes live.

[BitcoinPanther]

I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.

is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

I don't see promoting a single Casino site as disrespectful to the viewers.  I also don't think it is a fake promotion because they is actually promoting that single casino.  I don't know why you arrive to a decision that promoting a single Casino is disrespectful to viewers.  It is a common ground that the streamer is being sponsored by the Casino they are promoting or they have an affiliate code and wanted to have a referral for a commission.

[Pamadar]

Even though the funds seems sponsored the streamers are having real life experience and generating contents for their viewers who get enticed with their huge wins. If the funds are sponsored as claimed then there must always be terms and conditions that will govern how this huge wins gets credited.  But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote. The key take away is how much the sell this contents to their target audience and with less regards if the funds were sponsored or not

Pretty sure that this possibility has already been explored before the streamer and the platform agree on the contract. The goal of the streamer is to entertain and possibly, attract people to play. How would they do that if they aren't winning on the platform? Surely the casino owners also have a say on how the wins will happen, and that is where the magic happens on the platform. Doesn't matter if everything is sponsored or not. Streamer and platform already had it locked before the streamer even goes live.

No doubt about that, there's an agreement before the streamer will start streaming the video of his game,

The main responsibilities is to attract viewers and gaining the attentions and engaging them to watch is already a success for
a streamer since numbers of potential traffic will be delivered.

And here comes the participation of the gambling owner, making sure that each guest visits will be converted to a potential
patrons and regular players.

[livingfree]

I don't see promoting a single Casino site as disrespectful to the viewers.  I also don't think it is a fake promotion because they is actually promoting that single casino.  I don't know why you arrive to a decision that promoting a single Casino is disrespectful to viewers.  It is a common ground that the streamer is being sponsored by the Casino they are promoting or they have an affiliate code and wanted to have a referral for a commission.

Maybe it's because the content is just for the viewers and adding some sponsorships would think that they're being sold to the advertisers. Well, we do have our own thoughts regarding it but I agree with you that it's not really disrespectful if there's a casino sponsoring the streamer.

They're like everyone who's also trying to make money out of these sponsorships but having that number is a big amount from casino winnings. So, if there's a verified information that the figure given is for real, that's such a huge profit for three months.

[Eternad]

I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.

This is legit because he has a million bank roll on his account. He is using his own money aside from his streamer profit during the time he suffers addiction. He got an interview on one of Pokimane live stream and he admit that have a gambling problem that time that caused him million dollars loss, it’s possible that he have that 686M wager volume since he is betting max bet during his gambling streams. I remember xQc has a lot of money from his stream profit to sustain his gambling addiction until he loss it all.

[serjent05]

Maybe it's because the content is just for the viewers and adding some sponsorships would think that they're being sold to the advertisers. Well, we do have our own thoughts regarding it but I agree with you that it's not really disrespectful if there's a casino sponsoring the streamer.

How can the viewers be sold to the advertisers?  It is the viewers who have to decide whether they will try the platform or not.  In any case, it is the casino who is selling their services to the viewer so it is kinda impossible that viewers are being sold to the casino because the streamer only promotes 1 Casino because of its sponsorship.

They're like everyone who's also trying to make money out of these sponsorships but having that number is a big amount from casino winnings. So, if there's a verified information that the figure given is for real, that's such a huge profit for three months.

I am lost, can you give more details on this?

[AicecreaME]

I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.

is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

I don't see promoting a single Casino site as disrespectful to the viewers.  I also don't think it is a fake promotion because they is actually promoting that single casino.  I don't know why you arrive to a decision that promoting a single Casino is disrespectful to viewers.  It is a common ground that the streamer is being sponsored by the Casino they are promoting or they have an affiliate code and wanted to have a referral for a commission.

Most streamers stream because of mixture of passion and money generation. Of course, they have to be practical as well. During this trying times, they have to earn in order to put food onto their tables, to make their ends meet, and maybe to put up with the lifestyle that they want for themselves. Most do paid or sponsored streaming and I don't see anything wrong with it as long as they will declare it and won't spread false information to their viewers. Because after all, their job given with that kind of contract is to promote and to encourage their audience to try and play in that specific platform.

[livingfree]

Maybe it's because the content is just for the viewers and adding some sponsorships would think that they're being sold to the advertisers. Well, we do have our own thoughts regarding it but I agree with you that it's not really disrespectful if there's a casino sponsoring the streamer.

How can the viewers be sold to the advertisers?  It is the viewers who have to decide whether they will try the platform or not.  In any case, it is the casino who is selling their services to the viewer so it is kinda impossible that viewers are being sold to the casino because the streamer only promotes 1 Casino because of its sponsorship.

Well, by the time that you've watched the streamer and there are ads, you're already being sold to them and that's what advertisers want. To just be exposed to their viewers. Just like using social media, they're free but we are the products and we're sold to the advertisers.

They're like everyone who's also trying to make money out of these sponsorships but having that number is a big amount from casino winnings. So, if there's a verified information that the figure given is for real, that's such a huge profit for three months.

I am lost, can you give more details on this?

I've cut the quote and I've just joined the discussion that's also being quoted in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5407929.msg60747955#msg60747955

[coupable]

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

The problem is not technical but primarily moral. And here I mean the streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit.
I personally do not trust them and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.

[BitcoinPanther]

The problem is not technical but primarily moral. And here I mean the streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit.
I personally do not trust them and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.

Probably the streamer is sponsored so he really won't review the casino since he will not lose anything.  All he needs is to stream get winning and withdraw his commission.  There are lots of streamers that doesn't mind if the casino has a valid accusation, all they care about is the money that they can get on streaming and the percentage of the amount wins.
If the streamer is able to withdraw the fund, of course, he will say that he gets the money through successful withdrawal. 

[uneng]

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

The problem is not technical but primarily moral. And here I mean the streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit.
I personally do not trust them and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.

You mentioned a case in particular of a streamer promoting a scam casino. It's indeed a moral issue, but not every streamers who decide to promote a single platform exclusively should be labeled like this, since they promote legit casinos and don't deceive the audience by having advantages not disponible for common players.

I usually follow videos and series from small gamblers, because these are the most realistic and honest ones. When they cast a series (bankroll management/growment), every videos are done in one site exclusively and it is actually good to see their progression inside the platform. However, I must highlight I only watch these videos for entertainment purposes, as we shouldn't follow streamers' steps for real. People sometimes misunderstand this fact and think they will reproduce the same results when exactly repeating what streamers do.

[carlfebz2]

I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.

is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

I don't see promoting a single Casino site as disrespectful to the viewers.  I also don't think it is a fake promotion because they is actually promoting that single casino.  I don't know why you arrive to a decision that promoting a single Casino is disrespectful to viewers.  It is a common ground that the streamer is being sponsored by the Casino they are promoting or they have an affiliate code and wanted to have a referral for a commission.

Most streamers stream because of mixture of passion and money generation. Of course, they have to be practical as well. During this trying times, they have to earn in order to put food onto their tables, to make their ends meet, and maybe to put up with the lifestyle that they want for themselves. Most do paid or sponsored streaming and I don't see anything wrong with it as long as they will declare it and won't spread false information to their viewers. Because after all, their job given with that kind of contract is to promote and to encourage their audience to try and play in that specific platform.

Sometimes you people use English language to deceive us I don't understand what is streamers or streaming in the gamblling so,we have so many things that we have to understand. Because I know that when we that is coming up more or less overheard him because discussing with you guys concerning this streaming is something that we find uncomfortable right now to discuss with.

Doesnt matter on what language would be used by those streamers yet it would really share up on the same motive and intent in mind which is to advertise on the gambling site or platform on where they been paid on.So it would be normal that they would really be just following on whats been mandated or whats been instructed.The thing only here is that whether they would really be having that deceiving kind of intent or
behavior or would really be just simply honest with their actions and just simply doing their job on a fair way.I dont see something wrong with these kind of streams yet this had been a very common way or been
one of the trending jobs since we know that earning money through this is decent and you are just simply showing off on to the public on how things should be done.

[serjent05]

Sometimes you people use English language to deceive us I don't understand what is streamers or streaming in the gamblling so,we have so many things that we have to understand. Because I know that when we that is coming up more or less overheard him because discussing with you guys concerning this streaming is something that we find uncomfortable right now to discuss with.

That is why it is important to learn English, in order to fully understand people who are talking in English.  Besides, why are you watching  English language streams when you have difficulty understanding them?  If you are uncomfortable discussing Streamers, you have an option not to participate in the discussion since replying here is all at your own free will.

[AmoreJaz]

Sometimes you people use English language to deceive us I don't understand what is streamers or streaming in the gamblling so,we have so many things that we have to understand. Because I know that when we that is coming up more or less overheard him because discussing with you guys concerning this streaming is something that we find uncomfortable right now to discuss with.

That is why it is important to learn English, in order to fully understand people who are talking in English.  Besides, why are you watching  English language streams when you have difficulty understanding them?  If you are uncomfortable discussing Streamers, you have an option not to participate in the discussion since replying here is all at your own free will.

it is the universal language, so expect that english would always be the medium here. that's right, it is your own prerogative to watch these streamers. and it is your own accord how you will react on them. for sure, some of them are paid, so be careful on what they are endorsing. i don't think it will be uncomfortable if you know what they are discussing with. the concern for me is more on how truthful are these streamers are with what they are showing to their audience.

[Silberman]

Sometimes you people use English language to deceive us I don't understand what is streamers or streaming in the gamblling so,we have so many things that we have to understand. Because I know that when we that is coming up more or less overheard him because discussing with you guys concerning this streaming is something that we find uncomfortable right now to discuss with.

That is why it is important to learn English, in order to fully understand people who are talking in English.  Besides, why are you watching  English language streams when you have difficulty understanding them?  If you are uncomfortable discussing Streamers, you have an option not to participate in the discussion since replying here is all at your own free will.

it is the universal language, so expect that english would always be the medium here. that's right, it is your own prerogative to watch these streamers. and it is your own accord how you will react on them. for sure, some of them are paid, so be careful on what they are endorsing. i don't think it will be uncomfortable if you know what they are discussing with. the concern for me is more on how truthful are these streamers are with what they are showing to their audience.

People need to be incredibly careful when there is a language barrier between two people, sometimes it is even difficult to understand each other when you have complete mastery over the same language, imagine how difficult it can be for two people to try to communicate with each other when one of them doesn't have mastery over that language, so for someone that is not confident on their English language skills they can always try to look for information on their native language, so they do not get the mistaken idea of trying to make profits out of the casinos.

[TheGreatPython]

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

Maybe he thinks that it's too obvious that the streamer is doing a promotional play if he is only gambling with one site and not with the other but no one is forcing to watch the stream anyway. If they hate what the streamer is doing then they can simply ignore it and watch those natural streamers which aren't connected to any gambling sites.

We have so many whale gambler that risk huge amounts. Maybe if he sees that, he will also think that those guys are affiliated with a gambling site. There are streamers which aren't connected to a gambling site but will only play on one site because for them this is already the best and they can't afford to place more bets on any other gambling sites.

[Pamadar]

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

The problem is not technical but primarily moral. And here I mean the streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit.
I personally do not trust them and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.

You mentioned a case in particular of a streamer promoting a scam casino. It's indeed a moral issue, but not every streamers who decide to promote a single platform exclusively should be labeled like this, since they promote legit casinos and don't deceive the audience by having advantages not disponible for common players.

I usually follow videos and series from small gamblers, because these are the most realistic and honest ones. When they cast a series (bankroll management/growment), every videos are done in one site exclusively and it is actually good to see their progression inside the platform. However, I must highlight I only watch these videos for entertainment purposes, as we shouldn't follow streamers' steps for real. People sometimes misunderstand this fact and think they will reproduce the same results when exactly repeating what streamers do.

There are streamers who do things like this as reviews some might not really affiliate to the site itself

most of those small time gamblers who stream their games are just simply enjoying sharing how they play the game, if those
streamers reach enough viewers that will be the time that the website / casino owners will contact them.

Not all the time, it's already an established advertisement for the casino. There are still streamers who are trying to engage
for a good compensation.

[KTChampions]

Probably the streamer is sponsored so he really won't review the casino since he will not lose anything.  All he needs is to stream get winning and withdraw his commission.  There are lots of streamers that doesn't mind if the casino has a valid accusation, all they care about is the money that they can get on streaming and the percentage of the amount wins.
If the streamer is able to withdraw the fund, of course, he will say that he gets the money through successful withdrawal. 

Now (however, as before) you can not trust anyone. The essence of the work of streamers is that they are purchasable, (I'm talking about the most popular ones) - if someone offers them a contract under which they will receive x10 compared to the income that the audience itself gives them (donations, subscriptions, etc.), then 99 out of 100 will agree without hesitation.
But we should not forget about the naivety of people - if they see how every evening a streamer loses 5-10 thousand dollars in a casino, then it is worth considering whether this is real money