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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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June 07, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
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Making it to the UCL final was an extraordinary achievement for Haaland in his first season with Manchester City, Haaland had to prove his quality by helping Manchester City win the UCL and win the Treble Winner in his first season. Haaland who has a different character from Ronaldo has his own way of proving to all football fans that his quality deserves to be included in the list of the world's great players.

without the UCL title, Haaland has proven that he is a talented player that Man City deserves to buy at a high price. in this season in the EPL alone Haaland made 3 goals from 35 games. while in the UCL he has made 12 goals.
Haalnd is the best card Man City currently has. especially for the final match later, this will be history for Haaland who was successful with Man City in his first season.
now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
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June 07, 2023, 03:21:12 PM
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Making it to the UCL final was an extraordinary achievement for Haaland in his first season with Manchester City, Haaland had to prove his quality by helping Manchester City win the UCL and win the Treble Winner in his first season. Haaland who has a different character from Ronaldo has his own way of proving to all football fans that his quality deserves to be included in the list of the world's great players.

without the UCL title, Haaland has proven that he is a talented player that Man City deserves to buy at a high price. in this season in the EPL alone Haaland made 3 goals from 35 games. while in the UCL he has made 12 goals.
Haalnd is the best card Man City currently has. especially for the final match later, this will be history for Haaland who was successful with Man City in his first season.
now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
The boy or should I say the man is a beast when it comes  to given defenders a really hard time in their own eighteen yard box and inter Milan defenders are well aware of this and knows all his capability. I think the main focus of this inter Milan defenders even shouldn't be Harland, they should really straightene their energy on the force that always makes things work in the Manchester midfield which is Kevin de bryune.

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June 07, 2023, 03:26:31 PM
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If anyone is looking for who to compare with Haaland, the person can choose Salah. Even at that Haaland needs to be as this wonder by next season before we could start such a comparison between him and Salah.
As long as the world of football is concerned, the only person worthy to be compared with Ronaldo is Messi, apart from that no more.
Those two guys are in the league of their own and are not compared outside their two.
Why comparing Haaland with Salah?

Salah has a nickname like an Egyptian Messi and it says all. You can compare Salah with Messi but not with Haaland. If you want to find a player who can compare with Haaland, you can consider Ibrahimovic, Cristiano Ronaldo or Lewandowski. They are strikers and striker is a position of Haaland in recent years.

If you need a player who is young and talented enough to compare with Haaland, you can consider Mbappe. People are discussing about another long dual race between Haaland and Mbappe like what happened with Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in the last decade.
I do not think that it will be as talented as Ronaldo vs Messi duel, because that two had combined 100+ goal seasons for nearly a decade, that's not something you can see in anywhere else. Mbappe and Haaland are great players but I do not think that they are as good as Ronaldo and Messi was neither.

However, the difference is that Mbappe used to be a winger that turned into a striker, he was at left wing and played a lot of striker this year, I think when you consider it like that, a parallels can be made to Ronaldo, he used to be a left winger that turned into a striker as well. And they are both amazing physically, fast and powerful so they can run and go pass the defender. Haaland on the other hand is a lot similar to Ibrahimovic, maybe not as skillful but definitely much better positioning and he is "there" for cheap goals, people may dislike the goal, but being able to predict that is a huge talent.
There are so many comparisons here and there and it might be based on how anyone sees it which I respect so much, and no matter what, those players are good in their own way. Still, to be frank with what Messi has played and achieved and that of Salah, there is room for comparison, especially in the way they are calling him the Egyptian Messi, they are just qualifying him with something good, and it doesn't necessarily mean they are of the same feat, and to me, once you could be called in a name for appraisal, that technically means that the person is greater than you, that's the psychology at which I would like you to look at this.

Therefore, Messi is greater than Salah and Haaland which brought the whole argument. And in my personal assessment, Haaland and Mbappe are still very young in the world of football, it's unfair to be comparing them with those that would be difficult for their names to be forgotten in the world of football.

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June 07, 2023, 03:35:30 PM
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What has Halaad achieved,please we need to understand the quality and experience every player has before comparing them to one another. The world don't know Halaad yet but the world knows Ronaldo as a legend in football. Can Halaad move to Saudi and give his club the attention that Ronaldo gave to El-Naasri, never. Ronaldo should be compare with Messi,I don't even think that Halaad can be compared with Mbappe,who is the upcoming super legend.
They have their own time. Ronaldo Messi is starting to age and is at the end of his career. Mbaape and Neymar are the second generation after them. But Neymar is older and Mbappe may still be able to succeed Ronaldo and Messi as stars begin to shine alongside Haaland. Football has an age span and they will stop at the time they retire. They will be remembered for their achievements and abilities. At the moment maybe Haaland is in his best because he is still young and has a long period of time to play footbal
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June 07, 2023, 03:44:00 PM
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If anyone is looking for who to compare with Haaland, the person can choose Salah. Even at that Haaland needs to be as this wonder by next season before we could start such a comparison between him and Salah.
As long as the world of football is concerned, the only person worthy to be compared with Ronaldo is Messi, apart from that no more.
Those two guys are in the league of their own and are not compared outside their two.

It's a disrespect to compare Haaland with Mo Salah. Haaland is just a goal scorer but Mo Salah is more than a goal scorer and also has the champions league to his name and has been carrying Liverpool for years now. Haaland just come this season and he isn't even the one carrying Manchester city. We all know the engine behind the success of that club and it's Kevin Kevin De Bruyne. Haaland is just lucky to play in a team like Manchester city that everything has be done for him and all he has to do is to tap the ball into the net. Even the almighty Ronaldo didn't just score tap in as Erling Haaland is doing.

Haaland has his peers and they're Victor Osimhen, Mbappe etc. Mo Salah also has his peers which are Harry Kane, Sadio mane, and the rest. Messi and Ronaldo are on a different level of greatness. They dominated football together and won everything possible with Ronaldo conquered the. Champions League and Messi has now won the world cup so it looks like he's now the favorite to be declared the Goat but that doesn't silence the impact Cristiano Ronaldo has on the pitch with his goals.

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June 07, 2023, 03:59:55 PM
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Making it to the UCL final was an extraordinary achievement for Haaland in his first season with Manchester City, Haaland had to prove his quality by helping Manchester City win the UCL and win the Treble Winner in his first season. Haaland who has a different character from Ronaldo has his own way of proving to all football fans that his quality deserves to be included in the list of the world's great players.

without the UCL title, Haaland has proven that he is a talented player that Man City deserves to buy at a high price. in this season in the EPL alone Haaland made 3 goals from 35 games. while in the UCL he has made 12 goals.
Haalnd is the best card Man City currently has. especially for the final match later, this will be history for Haaland who was successful with Man City in his first season.
now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
The boy or should I say the man is a beast when it comes  to given defenders a really hard time in their own eighteen yard box and inter Milan defenders are well aware of this and knows all his capability. I think the main focus of this inter Milan defenders even shouldn't be Harland, they should really straightene their energy on the force that always makes things work in the Manchester midfield which is Kevin de bryune.

If Inter can't contain or stop Haaland then surely, it looks like Haaland will have a few goals too in the final. But yes, I also realize that Inter is not a weak team and Inter are also not a team that is easy to beat, but because Haaland has good movement and finishing, of course Inter's defense will be a major factor to maximize in the final match later. After all, if Inter maximized their attacks, it's unlikely that they would succeed because Manchester City have very good players in every position and of course it will make it difficult for Inter to win ball possession.

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June 07, 2023, 04:05:40 PM
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Making it to the UCL final was an extraordinary achievement for Haaland in his first season with Manchester City, Haaland had to prove his quality by helping Manchester City win the UCL and win the Treble Winner in his first season. Haaland who has a different character from Ronaldo has his own way of proving to all football fans that his quality deserves to be included in the list of the world's great players.

without the UCL title, Haaland has proven that he is a talented player that Man City deserves to buy at a high price. in this season in the EPL alone Haaland made 3 goals from 35 games. while in the UCL he has made 12 goals.
Haalnd is the best card Man City currently has. especially for the final match later, this will be history for Haaland who was successful with Man City in his first season.
now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
The boy or should I say the man is a beast when it comes  to given defenders a really hard time in their own eighteen yard box and inter Milan defenders are well aware of this and knows all his capability. I think the main focus of this inter Milan defenders even shouldn't be Harland, they should really straightene their energy on the force that always makes things work in the Manchester midfield which is Kevin de bryune.

If Inter can't contain or stop Haaland then surely, it looks like Haaland will have a few goals too in the final. But yes, I also realize that Inter is not a weak team and Inter are also not a team that is easy to beat, but because Haaland has good movement and finishing, of course Inter's defense will be a major factor to maximize in the final match later. After all, if Inter maximized their attacks, it's unlikely that they would succeed because Manchester City have very good players in every position and of course it will make it difficult for Inter to win ball possession.
Everyone keep centralizing on the fact that Harland needs to marked out and in so doing forgetting that Manchester city is a very versatile team and they are very dynamic when it comes to player performance. I mean even if inter Milan manage to mark out Harland, they still have other players who can do enough scoring to hurt them in that final and knowing this Manchester city team, they won't focus all their hopes on Harland because they know that's what inter Milan is going to do so they will diverse to other means to score in that final game.

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June 07, 2023, 04:49:16 PM
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The final is only a few days away now, I'm quite impatient what Haaland will do in the future because it is certain that with his current condition, the markings from the Inter players will obviously be troublesome for him and of course this can be a very good test for his condition to be better again and again.
City have so many players who can score and can decide the outcome of the match, so it will not be enough for Inter just to play well with Haaland, because they have De Bruyne, Gundogan, Silva and each of them is equally dangerous. In my opinion, City is now in optimal shape, I don’t want to say that Inter is a weak team and City can easily beat them in the final, but I still think that Inter will not have many chances.
In this case I agree because really looking at the condition of the midfielders and wingers even the defenders for Manchester City are still very capable of scoring goals because their instinct for that is very big but still Haaland is the biggest scourge in this case considering he is is the target City players are always chasing for bait.
His marking has to be clear, on the other hand it has to be all out both in attack and defense for Manchester City because seeing from their current condition, they can't be half-assed because precisely that will make them a little more complicated.
I'm quite curious about the current bet for Inter whether or not someone has the courage to put a little betting money there?Cheesy

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It is not time for these two players to be compared, even though Haaland has appeared extraordinary this season with Manchester City, Haaland's quality is still far below Ronaldo in terms of skills and individual awards. Haaland is in the process of becoming the world's best player, a move to Manchester City could make him one of the potential Ballon d'Or winners after the Ronaldo and Messi era is over.

Making it to the UCL final was an extraordinary achievement for Haaland in his first season with Manchester City, Haaland had to prove his quality by helping Manchester City win the UCL and win the Treble Winner in his first season. Haaland who has a different character from Ronaldo has his own way of proving to all football fans that his quality deserves to be included in the list of the world's great players.
I will not compare Haaland with Ronaldo because both are players with different game styles. Haaland is a pure striker whose job is only to put in the best position before getting the ball to score, so Haaland is not the same as Ronaldo.

This season is Haaland's first season in the Premier League with Manchester City, he has proven his quality as a striker but still has to prove that Manchester City can have great success with him. Haaland has won two titles in his first season, but he is still very likely to lead Manchester City to a treble if he wins the Champions League final in the next few days. This is something we are most looking forward to, especially since Manchester City are the favorites to win it.

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June 07, 2023, 05:02:53 PM
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I will not compare Haaland with Ronaldo because both are players with different game styles. Haaland is a pure striker whose job is only to put in the best position before getting the ball to score, so Haaland is not the same as Ronaldo.

This season is Haaland's first season in the Premier League with Manchester City, he has proven his quality as a striker but still has to prove that Manchester City can have great success with him. Haaland has won two titles in his first season, but he is still very likely to lead Manchester City to a treble if he wins the Champions League final in the next few days. This is something we are most looking forward to, especially since Manchester City are the favorites to win it.
Haaland is still quite young I think he will have a more stunning heyday in the coming seasons, I will not compare him with some other senior players like messi and ronaldo but I think Haaland will have comparisons that will strengthen him as a player best later. At the moment I think one of the things that sets him apart from other players is his goalscoring genius.

One of the things that amazed me about Haaland is that his strength is similar to that of Ibrahimovic, which is too difficult for other players to control his movements, making it easier for Haaland to react freely in front of the opponent's goal.

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June 07, 2023, 05:22:39 PM
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Well, body shape doesn't really count that much and we have some very good examples for that when we talk about great players. But Jesus isn't anywhere nearly as dangerous as Haaland. This is a numbers question and nothing else. When somebody scores over 40 goals per season for a team and the other striker scores und 20 goals per season, the striker with 40 goals is better in that season and if he outcompetes the other player for a longer period of time, he is the better player in general. I would find it right if Haaland gets some more time to prove himself.

Gabriel Jesus is an important striker, yes I admit, but I don't see any striker in the world right now who will play like Haaland. He is also very young and not everyone can achieve such a good physical condition at this age. His father must be proud of him as a former Manchester City resident. I don't think any active striker in the world can compare with him right now, not only Gabriel Jesus.
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Indeed Haaland is one of those players that can be described as an exception. Being a striker like him at that age hasn't even happened before I believe when you just consider the raw numbers. Regarding those numbers he can even compete with Ronaldo and Messi, but now for him it is all about keeping that level for many years in a row without severe injuries stopping him.

I would also like to see him score in the final now. So far he has been a bit passive in the games against Real Madrid, but it was difficult for him because the defense did their job very well against him. He'll have a new chance soon enough now.

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June 07, 2023, 05:32:24 PM
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I think even in this case Manchester City's probability is much bigger than inter but to say that Inter doesn't have the power to stop Manchester City I think this is a wrong assumption.
Even though in this case we can also see how Manchester City's current condition doesn't mean Inter can't do anything, it's just that in this case the situation is more difficult for Inter than City but that doesn't mean City can win easily.
Yeah there's always a chance regardless how small or big the probability is, Inter have beat many teams before, if they're weak they wouldn't able reach into final match. We shouldn't underestimate Inter, if the result is draw, the winner will be definitely 50/50 because anything can happen in penalty stage, luck will play. There are many good players missed in penalty.
The chance to play is still 50/50 but for statistics and other things to be honest I still feel Manchester City is superior but I agree with what you said in this matter. As long as they still have the enthusiasm to play even if it's difficult for Inter then it's already very good for them.
They are aware that Manchester City are favourites but that is no reason to be daunted at the moment.

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June 07, 2023, 05:35:17 PM
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now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
Inter Milan are not going to prepare for this game with the intention of stopping Haaland from scoring, if you concentrate on only Haaland, City have more than enough players to punish you, Haaland didn't even score against Real Madrid in the SF, but City won 5-1. Haaland has the ability to attract defenders to him, which gives other players the space to penetrate and score. Inter Milan will have to prepare for this game to stop the entire Manchester City team, i am pretty sure they are going to park the bus, they'll surround their box with their players and wait for City to try and break them down, it is not about stopping Haaland, but City.
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June 07, 2023, 05:37:01 PM
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Manchester City have the storyline to currently intimidate any other team regardless of any old record they have. Their players are very good and very confident in their abilities. The coach is also very good and knows the exact players that every game needs. They have a better chance and unstoppable in the Champions League final. If the Manchester City players don't get overconfident that winning Inter Milan is already a job done then they can actually do the job. But if overconfidence gets in, they can make mistakes that would hurt them.
If there was to be a mistake, I don't think it'll come from the players, it'll be the fault of Pep Guardiola with his overthinking mentality. He might just decide not to play Kevin De Bruyne or Haaland at the finals. He tried something similar in the last champion league finals which he played against Chelsea and lost and I won't be surprised if he tries it again. Manchester city players are very professional and it's hard to pinpoint a time they made a mistake. I understand they're humans but those players are built different. They understand what's at stake as they have the chances to equal their rival bragging right of winning the treble.
The players will have that in mind while playing the finals against Inter Milan. Inter Milan has nothing to lose as them getting to the finals is already an outstanding season for them because if they were told at the start of the champions league season that they'll be playing the finals against the best team in the world at the moment, they won't have believed but it's happening. I can't just wait for the finals to be played, I know both clubs won't disappoint as they will give us a proper show.
I agree, although many consider Pep Guardiola to be the best coach in the world, the fact that he won the last Champions League a long time ago with Messi and with the best generation of Barcelona in history should also be taken into account.
It is a much greater success to win the Champions League with a weaker team, which is not a favorite.
After Barcelona, Pep was unable to win the Champions League again in the last 12 years, neither with Bayern nor with Manchester City.
He received unlimited money from the owner of Manchester City to bring the best players in the world to the club, but for 7 years he has not managed to win the Champions League with the best team and club in the world. It's a big failure for me.
In some key Champions League matches, against Chelsea or Tottenham for example, he simply played too cautiously and missed the chance to win.
In the match against Inter in the final, we will see if Pep has learned something from his previous mistakes.
In terms of winning the Champions League, Inter have more experience. The last time they won was in 2010. Manchester City have never won one, although they do look a lot stronger than Inter at the moment. But in this final, history could play a cruel role, as it did a few years ago against Chelsea. The strongest clubs get into the final and Inter are here for a reason.

If we consider the performance of these two teams in the last few seasons, Manchester City's performance has been much more stable and strong than Inter Milan's. Inter Milan will be far behind City. And this season too, City's performances have been far more organized and strong than Inter Milan's. Even so, there is no way to think of Inter Milan as a weak team. Their players are in good enough form now. Inter Milan's attack in particular is strong now. And so it is very unlikely that City will win this match easily. The match will be very competitive. And it is uncertain which team will be the champion.

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June 07, 2023, 05:41:19 PM
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the Champions League final will be staged this Saturday
after which everything is over and we go on summer break (so boring)
let's hope this game gives us the last good emotion even if I honestly believe it will be a one-sided game dominated by Manchester

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June 07, 2023, 05:44:55 PM
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now Inter must prepare their best defender to stop Haaland's movements.
Inter Milan are not going to prepare for this game with the intention of stopping Haaland from scoring, if you concentrate on only Haaland, City have more than enough players to punish you, Haaland didn't even score against Real Madrid in the SF, but City won 5-1. Haaland has the ability to attract defenders to him, which gives other players the space to penetrate and score. Inter Milan will have to prepare for this game to stop the entire Manchester City team, i am pretty sure they are going to park the bus, they'll surround their box with their players and wait for City to try and break them down, it is not about stopping Haaland, but City.
I think Inter will also learn a lot from Manchester City's previous match against Real Madrid and I totally agree with what you said that Inter doesn't need to focus completely on stopping Haaland because this can make Inter lose concentration on other Manchester City players, therefore they must be able to anticipate the gaps that exist to stop any attacks from Manchester City. So as usual, because Inter is a team full of surprises, Manchester City should be more vigilant than Inter. The slightest chance will definitely mean a lot for Inter to score.

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June 07, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
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This information will never be confirmed - after all, if UEFA is caught on something like that, then UEFA itself will be fucked up. This is a clear violation of the principles of free competition and any such attempt will be punishable. But UEFA officials are so stupid that I nevertheless have some hope that they will fall for this. It would be a good blow to UEFA and perhaps the Super League project would get a second wind.

"There is irrefutable evidence that UEFA threatened Juve with throwing it out of Europe for three years"

According to AS here, translated with google.

https://as.com/futbol/internacional/hay-pruebas-irrefutables-de-que-la-uefa-amenazo-a-la-juve-con-echarla-de-europa-tres-anos-n/



Source; https://as.com/futbol/internacional/hay-pruebas-irrefutables-de-que-la-uefa-amenazo-a-la-juve-con-echarla-de-europa-tres-anos-n/

As I said 2 months ago, even EUFA members said the punishment they got in Serie A was to because to exclude them from the Champions League.


As far as I know the penalty for withdrawing from the Superleague project is huge and I don't know how Juventus will be able to solve it, but it is obvious that they decided to cheat and not fulfill their obligations.


Cheat what exactly? Don't follow the propaganda.

Evidence can be anything, but if it's not strong enough for the court, then it's nothing more than zilch. Any journalist can invent any number of such evidence.
As for cheating, these clubs had a simple agreement - they organize the Super League, and if someone withdraws from the agreement, he pays a penalty. Taking into account the fact that the news went about the fact that "Juventus's lawyers notified the Super League about the withdrawal" and not about the fact that "Juventus paid a penalty and left the Super League", then I see that Juventus is trying to waive the obligation to pay the penalty with the help of legal tricks . What is this if not cheating?

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June 07, 2023, 05:52:56 PM
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the Champions League final will be staged this Saturday
after which everything is over and we go on summer break (so boring)
let's hope this game gives us the last good emotion even if I honestly believe it will be a one-sided game dominated by Manchester
I don't think so, but Inter should have something to make the final exciting. Manchester City may be better in terms of performance and ability to build attacks, but Inter also has the possibility to trouble Manchester City's defense during the game. No, I don't expect it to be a one-sided match like when Manchester City beat Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final.

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June 07, 2023, 06:59:40 PM
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I don't think so, but Inter should have something to make the final exciting. Manchester City may be better in terms of performance and ability to build attacks, but Inter also has the possibility to trouble Manchester City's defense during the game. No, I don't expect it to be a one-sided match like when Manchester City beat Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final.


to me honestly it looks like a tired and unmotivated team
I don't really think it can do anything
bookmakers also say so, unfortunately it's an ending that's already taken for granted (obviously I'm sorry for this)

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June 07, 2023, 07:12:19 PM
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Inter Milan are not going to prepare for this game with the intention of stopping Haaland from scoring, if you concentrate on only Haaland, City have more than enough players to punish you, Haaland didn't even score against Real Madrid in the SF, but City won 5-1. Haaland has the ability to attract defenders to him, which gives other players the space to penetrate and score. Inter Milan will have to prepare for this game to stop the entire Manchester City team, i am pretty sure they are going to park the bus, they'll surround their box with their players and wait for City to try and break them down, it is not about stopping Haaland, but City.

I haven't seen Inter parking the bus against a team for a long time. They have been used to playing with 3 defenders and an offense-oriented game at the same time. But this must be their toughest match even in the recent years. Manchester City are such a dominant team against even the ones we know as the same. We all witnessed what they did to Real Madrid in the rematch. Real Madrid were just desperate against them after a point. Thinking about that I can't even imagine what Manchester City can do to Inter.

However this is the final stage of course. Both teams will need to play carefully. I think Inter will prioritize zone defense and force their opponent to shots outside the box. But if they still somehow give spaces then Manchester City can break the deadlock earlier and finish the job later on.

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