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August 08, 2022, 06:46:09 PM
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The fight is for the clearly for the money. Can we call it a case of exploitation if both men had agreed to the fight? In my estimation, it was clearly neither fun nor entertaining to watch. Promoters would do anything to promote an official match, I guess this is a typical example. Right now, people would watch you anything as long as you are popular on the internet. And most people who are popular on the internet would do anything as long as will they get paid for it.
Yes that's for content I even see people eating live chicken just to be popular and gain followers, the trending videos now are those mukbang
That’s how things are right now, any content that will provide viewers whether it is discriminating or something that is out of ordinary that will garner tons of views and money. This kind of event whereas people would like to see these internet sensation to fight each to know how it will end will surely amass tons of viewers which is why the match has been held even without any experience.

But still the good thing about this, is that they will able to earn money from this matches and possibly continue their careers through this hype and maybe became a boxer as well whereas a rematch can be officially made.

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August 08, 2022, 06:54:32 PM
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It could be that promoters exploit their popularity while they still have supporters who will support them in competing.
We can support the fight in the ring but also refuse it.
But even if we reject it, we don't know if it will work because if the promoter has someone behind it, the event will continue and more will follow.
But maybe it's common sense to exploit such fights to entertain the audience, although we might think it would be weird.
Definitely, its a clear manifestation that the promoters here want only money to sold out all tickets even if the match alone is not entertaining. Although some might still having fun but i bet, most have only gone there since they want to witness these two internet sensations. Well, to be honest, i'm not really into this fight because it only serves more of taking advantage their names while they are hot, and its up to the audience alone if they want to avail the tickets or not.
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August 08, 2022, 06:57:19 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Is there something we can actually do to prevent that kind of match? It's easy for organizers to make such fights since it's not prohibited in the first place. Even those professional players in that specific sport can't prevent that kind of match from happening even if they will voice out their concern that they are against at those exhibition games where it involves a personality that's not even a real player of that sport.

Simply, if we are again at this, we can take action by not supporting that match or just ignoring it.

But since many people are patronizing that event, then no choice but to keep our disappointment from ourselves.
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August 09, 2022, 03:15:52 AM
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With how much they've made from the match I want to say they did it for the money.

Unfortunately, this is the first time that I heard about this match.

Are there any crypto betting options for this though? What are the odds for either? I'm just asking so that I can gauge if there is someone who lost or make money out of this fight, other wise it might be rigged or something.
If crypto sportsbooks decided to offer odds for this game it'd probably be around 1.1 for the favorite since that boxer looked like a professional while the other couldn't keep up with the punches being thrown at him.

I don't think it's rigged but there's a possibility if the outcome from the judges ends up the other way around like a draw for example.

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August 09, 2022, 03:43:04 AM
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But still the good thing about this, is that they will able to earn money from this matches and possibly continue their careers through this hype and maybe became a boxer as well whereas a rematch can be officially made.


For the Iranian Hulk his career in boxing is over he had one minute of fame in boxing, I was disappointed after I see him in the video there's a lot of difference in pictures that he and his followers have uploaded to his video I thought he was huge and massive and had a lot of muscles like the incredible hulk turn out he is just a big fat guy, I like to believe those who alleged that all his pictures online are photoshopped to make him look like he is frightening on the online world.

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August 09, 2022, 06:33:24 AM
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It could be that promoters exploit their popularity while they still have supporters who will support them in competing.
We can support the fight in the ring but also refuse it.
But even if we reject it, we don't know if it will work because if the promoter has someone behind it, the event will continue and more will follow.
But maybe it's common sense to exploit such fights to entertain the audience, although we might think it would be weird.
Definitely, its a clear manifestation that the promoters here want only money to sold out all tickets even if the match alone is not entertaining. Although some might still having fun but i bet, most have only gone there since they want to witness these two internet sensations. Well, to be honest, i'm not really into this fight because it only serves more of taking advantage their names while they are hot, and its up to the audience alone if they want to avail the tickets or not.
Yes, that's true.
If the promoter were more concerned with money than a serious match that could really entertain the crowd, they would do whatever it took to make a big profit in that match.
They will only try to create a sensation by using various means so that more viewers will be interested in buying tickets or can provide more profits for the promoter.
Maybe the audience won't think about exploitation because they just want some entertainment from the game.
But hopefully, the audience will not attract to the match the promoter is trying to exploit.

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August 09, 2022, 06:46:53 AM
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These are just taking place for attention and money. Internet culture makes everything important a mockery because of potential to profit. I am not totally against it as I understand people want to make easy money. But this type of matches should not ever be named sport match but instead a TV Show. Literally. Its %100 show. They are no different than actors.
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August 09, 2022, 08:59:30 AM
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These are just taking place for attention and money. Internet culture makes everything important a mockery because of potential to profit. I am not totally against it as I understand people want to make easy money. But this type of matches should not ever be named sport match but instead a TV Show. Literally. Its %100 show. They are no different than actors.
TV shows for football and other sports can fully be used for business as well because in some big clubs such as Barcelona, which sells broadcasting rights to investors at a very high value, this shows that on TV shows everyone can make a profit because when the TV gets bigger and The more visitors, the higher the selling price. forever everything has a clear legality in my opinion is not an important problem.

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August 10, 2022, 09:03:06 AM
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These are just taking place for attention and money. Internet culture makes everything important a mockery because of potential to profit. I am not totally against it as I understand people want to make easy money. But this type of matches should not ever be named sport match but instead a TV Show. Literally. Its %100 show. They are no different than actors.

Based on what we've seen they are not actors in the ring, but they are actors and imitators of what they are showing on the internet I'm surprised that they let their rivalry settle in the ring, they should have done it in other sports like weight lifting, these two protagonists did not give us good boxing they but in fairness to Kazakh Titan he has boxing skills for Gharibi he should not ever step into the ring and just compete in weight lifting where he excels, and he should take down those photoshopped images in the internet showing his muscular physique. 

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August 10, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
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These are just taking place for attention and money. Internet culture makes everything important a mockery because of potential to profit. I am not totally against it as I understand people want to make easy money. But this type of matches should not ever be named sport match but instead a TV Show. Literally. Its %100 show. They are no different than actors.
Maybe it's all just to get a lot of money from the audience so they use the match show to attract their interest. Let's hope no one gets injured after the game, especially if the game is just entertainment. And hopefully, the players can also get a decent fee because they have entertained the audience with their abilities even though it's not a real match event. Maybe there will be more events because the audience at home or watching lives need such entertainment.

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August 10, 2022, 02:41:57 PM
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Exhibitions matches are really for a money-making scheme purposes. That's why it called exhibition match in the first place.

In boxing, MMA or any other sports, these matches are not being sanctioned or governed by an official body council council of that sports making it as a free will for any organizers to just do what they want as long as those involved athletes agreed.

But on the other hand, exhibition matches is also a way to raise funds to help a certain charity or if there's a calamity.

We should only support an exhibition matches that involves helping a foundation for real and not for a fun or entertainment purposes.

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August 10, 2022, 03:07:18 PM
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Exhibitions matches are really for a money-making scheme purposes. That's why it called exhibition match in the first place.

In boxing, MMA or any other sports, these matches are not being sanctioned or governed by an official body council council of that sports making it as free will for any organizers to just do what they want as long as those involved athletes agreed.

But on the other hand, exhibition matches are also a way to raise funds to help a certain charity or if there's a calamity.

We should only support exhibition matches that involve helping a foundation for real and not for fun or entertainment purposes.

Yes, most exhibition matches have a purpose and that is mainly to earn funds either for charities or other things being organized by the management. The first goal is to earn funds and the negotiations will be between the management and the fighters. They could make the matches more exciting and thrilling and we can't blame them for that because their main goal is just to earn funds without any title involve.
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August 10, 2022, 05:17:23 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

That's not illegal in the first place so no choice but to allow them to just organize fights like that. Clearly, it's about earning money regardless of the purpose as no way obviously that they will held such events if not for money. The fact is, there are people who really wants that entertainment that's why even there's a call for real professional boxers to stop those sh*ts, nothing they can do.

Simply if we found an exhibition match as annoying, then just ignore those and never pay money to watch those.

That is something we need to accept now as it was considered as part of the entertainment.

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August 10, 2022, 05:19:01 PM
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I am not really against exhibition fights and even celebrities trying to enter into professional boxing. I don't call it mockery for boxing because it is the other way around since many boxing fans will laugh at their awkward fighting styles. If an op calls the Iranian Hulk fight a mockery of boxing then how come Shake Paul is not a mockery for you?

I'm not a fan of Shake Paul because he is hyping beyond his boundary. I don't mind him fighting MMA fighters and earning money, but is he talking about him as the biggest star in boxing and beating Canelo Alvarez? That's funny and annoying. Did he cancel his fight with an unknown Rahman because of the weight issue? Didn't he realize that he was too heavy also against those past primed MMA fighters? He is talking about beating Canelo but why can't he accept Chris Eubank Jr.'s challenge? Eubank is only a middleweight and is willing to accept as a late replacement for Rahman. Paul is a cruiserweight I guess but is silent about the Eubank challenge. Good thing Mayweather Jr. made his face a punching bag before. Cheesy    

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August 11, 2022, 09:18:01 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

That's not illegal in the first place so no choice but to allow them to just organize fights like that. Clearly, it's about earning money regardless of the purpose as no way obviously that they will held such events if not for money. The fact is, there are people who really wants that entertainment that's why even there's a call for real professional boxers to stop those sh*ts, nothing they can do.

Simply if we found an exhibition match as annoying, then just ignore those and never pay money to watch those.

That is something we need to accept now as it was considered as part of the entertainment.

I can accept an exhibition match that is well organized and participants well trained and the organizers are taking care of the welfare of the participants but this one is very different, one participant did not know what to do in the ring he turn his backs many times which is a big no no in boxing, this is probably the worst exhibition boxing I've seen the promoters and the participants did a great job creating a big hype on their match.

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August 11, 2022, 09:49:04 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

That's not illegal in the first place so no choice but to allow them to just organize fights like that. Clearly, it's about earning money regardless of the purpose as no way obviously that they will held such events if not for money. The fact is, there are people who really wants that entertainment that's why even there's a call for real professional boxers to stop those sh*ts, nothing they can do.

Simply if we found an exhibition match as annoying, then just ignore those and never pay money to watch those.

That is something we need to accept now as it was considered as part of the entertainment.

I can accept an exhibition match that is well organized and participants well trained and the organizers are taking care of the welfare of the participants but this one is very different, one participant did not know what to do in the ring he turn his backs many times which is a big no no in boxing, this is probably the worst exhibition boxing I've seen the promoters and the participants did a great job creating a big hype on their match.
There's nothing we can do if it would really be looking up that way because its an exhibition then they wouldnt care on what they would gonna do but its true that the fight should really be worthy on the amount been
paid for the tickets or ppv so that it wont really be ending up on disappointment and lots of discrimination from the fans.We know that this is a business and making money if we do talk about exhibitions
and doesnt matter on what would be the set up and on how they would taking those exhibition to happen.We can see clearly on whats the motive on the first place.

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August 11, 2022, 11:48:16 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

That's not illegal in the first place so no choice but to allow them to just organize fights like that. Clearly, it's about earning money regardless of the purpose as no way obviously that they will held such events if not for money. The fact is, there are people who really wants that entertainment that's why even there's a call for real professional boxers to stop those sh*ts, nothing they can do.

Simply if we found an exhibition match as annoying, then just ignore those and never pay money to watch those.

That is something we need to accept now as it was considered as part of the entertainment.

I can accept an exhibition match that is well organized and participants well trained and the organizers are taking care of the welfare of the participants but this one is very different, one participant did not know what to do in the ring he turn his backs many times which is a big no no in boxing, this is probably the worst exhibition boxing I've seen the promoters and the participants did a great job creating a big hype on their match.
^ An exhibition fight is supposedly an entertainment match and there is nothing we can do if it may result in a worse or it will be entertained very well to the audience. The purpose of that match is to collect funds, nothing else. They are not even fighting their reputation title, so sometimes I consider the exhibition fight is a boring match not unless if they performed very well.
But yeah, this is considering as an entertainment match.
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring

Personally, I don't like supporting these type of matches unless the revenue goes to a charity. Most of the time, influencers just do those matchups for the sake of clout. The influencers will create a scripted issue, make it look serious, hype it on social media then settle it on a fighting match. Organizers also take advantage of it because of the influencers' big fanbase that can generate them a huge amount of profit.

Well to tell the truth, I also agree with your opinion, when it comes to this type of event, I personally do not think much about sanctions on the internet, and it is as you say, it is better that if this type of event takes place it is for a charity occasion, otherwise I think it would not be very attractive.

On the other hand, influencers are usually used for this type of event and many times they do not do it to do a good charity work but for the money they can receive and that is something that I do not like either, if we were a little more human and that the same influencers making charitable donations was much better.

Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

That's not illegal in the first place so no choice but to allow them to just organize fights like that. Clearly, it's about earning money regardless of the purpose as no way obviously that they will held such events if not for money. The fact is, there are people who really wants that entertainment that's why even there's a call for real professional boxers to stop those sh*ts, nothing they can do.

Simply if we found an exhibition match as annoying, then just ignore those and never pay money to watch those.

That is something we need to accept now as it was considered as part of the entertainment.

I can accept an exhibition match that is well organized and participants well trained and the organizers are taking care of the welfare of the participants but this one is very different, one participant did not know what to do in the ring he turn his backs many times which is a big no no in boxing, this is probably the worst exhibition boxing I've seen the promoters and the participants did a great job creating a big hype on their match.
^ An exhibition fight is supposedly an entertainment match and there is nothing we can do if it may result in a worse or it will be entertained very well to the audience. The purpose of that match is to collect funds, nothing else. They are not even fighting their reputation title, so sometimes I consider the exhibition fight is a boring match not unless if they performed very well.
But yeah, this is considering as an entertainment match.


Well, in part I also consider it that way, if there is one thing that I have to do with exhibition it is for that, it is not something real, there is not that rivalry to make it something exciting, if we take into account that they can make a difference, yes, maybe, but they do this more than anything to raise money, I like it when it's for charity occasions, the only exhibition fight I'd like to see is Mike Tyson and that's something we can forget about, because he himself said that I wasn't going to do it, unless it was for a large amount of money, something really very large, I see this as friendly football matches.

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August 20, 2022, 11:34:33 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

I don't agree with this kind of fight, It is so clear that the promoter is just taking advantage of the popularity of the two fighter just to grab money from the target audience.  Even if it is labeled as exhibition match, I don't see any exhibit in the fight since the other fighter is too noob to fight while the other fighter is well accustomed to the fight. 
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August 20, 2022, 11:44:15 PM
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Should we allow or support internet sensations to fight in the ring I'm ok with the Paul brothers but these two other so-called internet sensations are making a mockery of boxing.

Watch the whole fight here
https://dailymmafighting.com/watch-kazakh-titan-dropped-iranian-hulk-in-first-round/

I don't agree with this kind of fight, It is so clear that the promoter is just taking advantage of the popularity of the two fighter just to grab money from the target audience.  Even if it is labeled as exhibition match, I don't see any exhibit in the fight since the other fighter is too noob to fight while the other fighter is well accustomed to the fight.  

well, as the audience saw what kind the fight it was, then, if the promoters will schedule a similar exhibition fight, then don't buy or watch it. clearly, the promoters are exploiting their popularity to earn money. but if the fight is not even worth to watch as exhibition fight, then the audience should not let these promoters earn from their ticket sales. because they will promote an exhibition fight as long as people are buying it.

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