Casino Games or Gambling Considered Sports, really!

[passwordnow]

AFAIK, when I was still young, billiards or pool is already a sport and I used to look at those players placing bets on each round and that's why basically it's a good gambling game. Also, there's this sport originated in India that I've known when I grew up but haven't played that but it's like a close game to billiard/pool. However, I don't know if players that play that game used to have bets, maybe there is also betting on it. We've got Indian friends in the forum and I think they can testify and explain how it works.

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[Wexnident]

Why is Billiards (or pool, or whatever you call it) considered a gambling game...? Pretty sure it's a separate sport altogether, I do know there are different types of pool games but they aren't really connected to gambling afaik. I mean if you compare it to card games like poker, then yea it's pretty far from being considered as a gambling game imo. Not to mention that billiards is a pure game that requires skill, unlike poker where luck is still in play.

On the topic though, poker would be the most general answer here imo, it's a well-known card gambling game after all. Other than that I don't think there's any other that comes close. The others are just different renditions of poker, or are purely luck based which is probably why they aren't considered sports.

[virasog]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

I think sports games like boxing, football, etc are not directly linked with gambling games. There are sports on which gamblers bet on the matches. Chess is also not a gambling game, you can only bet on chess matches.

The casino games like dice, slots, or even lottery are not skill based games, they are just luck based games where you win because of your good luck and nothing else. Some people consider poker as a skill based game which i disagree.

[Despairo]

Billiard or pool is a sport, not considered as gambling.
It's similar like how people say chess isn't a sport, but a game since there's no relation with physic, in the end it should be a sport.

The reason why billiard or pool isn't a gambling is you can play without betting your money, you can make a fun, freestyle, and show your skills on the table. I'm really satisfied when see a trick shot from the legend Efren Reyes.

[davis196]

There's nothing wrong with poker being considered a sport.
Nowadays even playing video games like CS:GO and FIFA is considered a sport. There are big CS:GO and FIFA gaming tournaments and those gamers are being treated like sports athletes. This seems way more ridiculous than calling poker a sport.
There aren't any traditional gambling games in my country, that can be considered an actual sport.
AFAIK, billiard isn't as popular as snooker. For some reason, snooker is really popular in the UK and worldwide, while I don't see any big billiard tournaments being hosted anywhere. I remember that some billiard players where betting money on a game of billiard back in the 90s, but I don't that this has the level of popularity nowadays.

[Beparanf]

There’s a thin line separating between sports and gambling which is money involved. Technically gambling can be considered as sports if it didn’t involved money because it’s for entertainment and competing to other players but since players is risking money in able to get entertained, Gambling can’t be considered as sports for that particular reason.

[Gozie51]

Billiard or pool is a sport, not considered as gambling.
It's similar like how people say chess isn't a sport, but a game since there's no relation with physic, in the end it should be a sport.

The reason why billiard or pool isn't a gambling is you can play without betting your money, you can make a fun, freestyle, and show your skills on the table. I'm really satisfied when see a trick shot from the legend Efren Reyes.

Overall I think what make an activity whether sports or just a game played in casino to be gambling is what is attached to it and that is money known as the price tag for proving right or wrong in that activity. For a time I wanted to consider games exerted with strength to be sports alone but if we look deeply, there is bet placed on games to make them gambling. So if there is a price placed on any activity including eating, dancing, clapping and all other things placed against the other in monetary terms, I think the act itself qualifies as bet and that is same as gambling.

[Ray Josh]

I consider casino and gambling mental and emotional sports. It keeps you going, giving you a reason to continue playing. It feels like a never ending roll coaster.

[AicecreaME]

Well, I agree since poker is a mind game, not a luck based one. As long as they could compete with it, I believe we can call it a sport. Also, there's nothing wrong calling it a sport, because when they are playing poker as a sport, they are using the casino money but the profit they would earn each battle won't be credited to them. I believe the price depends on what place they would get in the competition (if I'm not mistaken).

[ethereumhunter]

I think it's obvious that sports and gambling are different. Sport is an activity that does not involve money; no one else spends money to choose who wins. But gambling is an activity that uses money and can choose anything to bet on, other than using sports to bet and choose who will be the winner. But sports and gambling are both entertaining activities for people who can enjoy them.

[inanilujimi]

Games that don't just rely on luck alone, I think it's also appropriate to say it's a sporting match, domino and poker can be said as sports because it takes skill and mentality to read the situation that's going on, this is like playing chess even though we all know how to play it, but it takes a mind-blowing strategy to win it.

[Rufsilf]

I think it's obvious that sports and gambling are different. Sport is an activity that does not involve money; no one else spends money to choose who wins. But gambling is an activity that uses money and can choose anything to bet on, other than using sports to bet and choose who will be the winner. But sports and gambling are both entertaining activities for people who can enjoy them.

And it creates some questions about why Billiard and poker are included in sports games as it was not known to be like that.
I have no argument as the criteria fit them and make them be called sports games as we know that Billiard is also like any sports games that require skills and possibly the basis for this. But talking about Poker, that is something different as I considered this gambling like any of these card games.

[chaser15]

Just for clarification for the OP's question regarding "What casino games are sports in your country?" , does it mean those games/sports that were being played exactly in the casino but began to consider it as sports and already included in sports events?

I'm not aware that billiards before are mostly played in a casino hall. Even if does, I think that was already a usual sport before. Our country is known for having good billiards players since the classic year that's why I was surprised that billiards is actually a casino game, maybe in some countries.

You just give me a trivia there, OP.

[virasisog]

Just for clarification for the OP's question regarding "What casino games are sports in your country?" , does it mean those games/sports that were being played exactly in the casino but began to consider it as sports and already included in sports events?

I'm not aware that billiards before are mostly played in a casino hall. Even if does, I think that was already a usual sport before. Our country is known for having good billiards players since the classic year that's why I was surprised that billiards is actually a casino game, maybe in some countries.

You just give me a trivia there, OP.

I wasn't aware either though billiards is a famous sport in our country as well. It's actually a famous pastime for people in our community and they enjoy betting on it but I didn't know as well that it's a casino game. Sports are actually considered as physical games in our country. Those that require skills and strength like boxing and basketball. There are added digital sports but they're only familiar to those who are into digital sports.

[agustina2]

I'm trying to find out what casino games are actually considered sports. Maybe OP can give us a list and check if our countries are having that kind of game. I too began to make my mind twist as for me, what I have known casinos games are the usual casinos games we are seeing like, slots, roulettes, dice, etc. Except for poker which maybe I will be believed it's just begun to become a usual sport in the late generation.

I like to know more and I hope OP can give us other casino games that were treated now as sports in some countries.

[Boristhecat]

I think sports games like boxing, football, etc are not directly linked with gambling games. There are sports on which gamblers bet on the matches. Chess is also not a gambling game, you can only bet on chess matches.

The casino games like dice, slots, or even lottery are not skill based games, they are just luck based games where you win because of your good luck and nothing else. Some people consider poker as a skill based game which i disagree.

Determining whether a sport is gambling or not depends on the percentage of luck and skill in determining the result. Obviously, there is an element of luck in football, boxing and chess, but it is negligible compared to the percentage of skill that affects the final result.
But why do you call poker a game of luck? Knowing how to count the probabilities of cards and trying to understand your opponents is a natural skill and in poker the pros are much stronger than the amateurs, which means that skill is the determining factor.

[mu_enrico]

Poker won't be considered as a sport by a reputable organization. To determine whether or not a game can be competitive is easy.
If I play 100 chess matches with a grand master, it would be guaranteed 100 loss.
If I play 100 pool matches with a pro pool player, it would be guaranteed 100 loss.
If I play 100 poker rounds with a pro poker player, the result will be unknown... it depends on how many I draw great cards.

[jostorres]

There’s a thin line separating between sports and gambling which is money involved. Technically gambling can be considered as sports if it didn’t involved money because it’s for entertainment and competing to other players but since players is risking money in able to get entertained, Gambling can’t be considered as sports for that particular reason.

How can it be considered as a sport when luck is the only thing that you need? But for some card games like poker for example, I think it's possible to consider them as a sport and like a typical sport, there are also big tournaments for poker but we don't see one for dice, crash, keno and other casino games.

Those games are only good for local use to provide the people an entertainment but they can get some incentives if they get lucky. Here in gambling we also have sports betting. This involves money but the game or a match where people places their bets are still called as a sports. It's also possible to gamble without a real money involved.

[dataispower]

In my opinion, a sports doesn't need to involve physical. Well, most of the sports are physical sports and if there's a physical sports then why there won't be a mental sports like chess and other mental sports though mental sports do require some physical which is to move a chess piece but I know it is nothing compared to basketball and other sports that you have to be active all the time.

Sports deserve or required both physical band metal health standard. The thing i understand that game is that you most be at least %80 sounds in fit people you can buoyantly pertake or competite into it, because it' required calculation and activeness to support the move. Most of the support game are what that energy is needed to be use to actualized it, perfectly. I believe that many people who is into support know exactly what I am lamenting on, because whoever that is full of fitness can make good calculation.

[famososMuertos]

Just for clarification for the OP's question regarding "What casino games are sports in your country?" , does it mean those games/sports that were being played exactly in the casino but began to consider it as sports and already included in sports events?

I'm not aware that billiards before are mostly played in a casino hall. Even if does, I think that was already a usual sport before. Our country is known for having good billiards players since the classic year that's why I was surprised that billiards is actually a casino game, maybe in some countries.

You just give me a trivia there, OP.

...! without depth is a simple and open question, on the other hand billiards is a game where you bet, a casino organizes an event or simply players put money on the table, what do you call the spaces that have billiard tables?

Billard Casino, Bergisch Gladbach, Germany.
Address: Overather Str. 56, 51429 Bergisch Gladbach, Germany

If you don't know casinos that have pool tables, give it a GS. 

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Poker won't be considered as a sport by a reputable organization. To determine whether or not a game can be competitive is easy.
If I play 100 chess matches with a grand master, it would be guaranteed 100 loss.
If I play 100 pool matches with a pro pool player, it would be guaranteed 100 loss.
If I play 100 poker rounds with a pro poker player, the result will be unknown... it depends on how many I draw great cards.

I think that is the point of the question, not everyone can play with a chess master, they need to be ranked, that is why there are federations that give you a ranking and that would allow you to access events according to your level, that simple organization and order is the beginning of at least playing for the simple fact of being number one.

Competing to win is what leads to the beginning of many activities that require preparation of the mind, body and then a federation or organization supervises you.

I am neither against nor in favor of calling anything that is organized and that has certain parameters to define it as a sport, but doing it for the simple fact of competing and showing that you are the best, then makes you be in a healthy activity and if that makes it possible to organize federations and world championships, that's fine.