Need some help: is this a Tether adddress or not?

[MegaAkker]

Hello guys,

The following address: 35Fx6GRmqZiBN9pWrERGU5VQjAHcR4TEVq

Does this address belong to Tether or any other crypto and if so which?
And can you show me all transactions that were made to this address?

Thanks!

[LoyceV]

And can you show me all transactions that were made to this address?

It looks like an empty Bitcoin address. What makes you think it's anything else than that?

[Upgrade00]

And can you show me all transactions that were made to this address?

You can always check an address using a block explorer like blockchair.com
This would show all transactions the address has been involved in, but cannot de anonymize the wallet to show the owner.
That can only be assumed based on the frequency of transactions as to whether it's an exchange wallet or an individual address.

As LoyceV said, it's a completely empty wallet which has not been involved in any transactions.

[bitmover]

And can you show me all transactions that were made to this address?

It looks like an empty Bitcoin address. What makes you think it's anything else than that?

Tether used to run on omni layer, on bitcoin  blockchain

This is not the case of this address, which never received any btc or usdt
This os the proper explorer to verify usdt transactions in bitcoin blockchain
https://omniexplorer.info/address/35Fx6GRmqZiBN9pWrERGU5VQjAHcR4TEVq/

This is a usdt transaction in bitcoin blockchain
https://omniexplorer.info/tx/f7ad1d12ba552c1ceadc426febc9adf8cd53b191255806f41a7def835dcc99c9

Nowadays usdt runs mainly in other chains, such as eth, matic, bsc.. but btc was the main chain until some time ago

[MegaAkker]

Thanks guys.

Let me clarify a bit: the reason I started this topic is because a couple days ago I requested a withdrawal from one crypto sportsbook to another one. In the cashier section of the other one (named Justbet.cx) they have a list of cryptocurrencies and I selected Tether and got this address (the one I mentioned in the OP).
So I withdrew my USDT balance in the other book to this address. Then it lasted a couple hours and I still did not get the funds credited on Justbet and I asked the other book what is wrong and they said the transaction failed. Now, after doing some research it's starting to look like the Tether-address I got fom the cashier in Justbet was in fact a Bitcoin address. Which is ofcourse a horrible mistake of them and now because of this my funds are stuck in the air somewhere.

But some things confuse me. I went into the Justbet livechat and their Bitcoin specialist that I got connected to kept saying that it really is a Tether address. So either they have no clue what they are talking about or it is in fact an address that can receive both Bitcoin and USDT? I did not know that was possible but looking at what bitmover said in the post above this, there are addresses that can receive both?

And one more question: as you guys said the address I posted is a completely empty address with no transactions visible. Should it not show at least a failed transaction if USDT is sent to a Bitcoin address? Or does a failed transaction equal no transaction and therefore it shows zero transactions?

[LoyceMobile]

Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain.

[MegaAkker]

Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain.

Thanks, and any answer please on my other question:

But some things confuse me. I went into the Justbet livechat and their Bitcoin specialist that I got connected to kept saying that it really is a Tether address. So either they have no clue what they are talking about or it is in fact an address that can receive both Bitcoin and USDT? I did not know that was possible but looking at what bitmover said in the post above this, there are addresses that can receive both?

[bitmover]

. So either they have no clue what they are talking about or it is in fact an address that can receive both Bitcoin and USDT? I did not know that was possible but looking at what bitmover said in the post above this, there are addresses that can receive both?

Yes, a bitcoin address can receive usdt.

Take a look here and explore omni layer
http://omniexplorer.info/

But you can't just send usdt to a bitcoin address. Both Sender and received must be using an omni wallet.

The problem is that Nowadays not many exchanges and using bitcoin network for tether transactions anymore.
In 2021  binance abandoned omni layer
https://u.today/binance-abandons-first-ever-tether-platform-omni-network

On the other hand, tether is making yhe first transactions in the lightning network
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/tether-sent-using-the-lightning-network

Will Tether Migrate To The Bitcoin Blockchain With Advances In The Lightning Network?
Marty Bent, Mar 24, 2022

Bitcoin company, Synonym, has successfully used the Lightning Network to send a Tether transaction, paving the way for stablecoins built on Bitcoin.

....

What's interesting about Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning is that it leverages the Omni Layer protocol, which is where Tether originally launched. As on-chain fees increased in the years after Tether launched on Omni Layer Tether usage migrated to other chains to take advantage of their relatively low fees and has since been playing a game of hot potato. Hopping from one chain to the next.

Is Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning something that will push Tether usage back to the bitcoin stack as the Lightning Network currently provides sufficiently low fees on top of the most secure ledger in the world? We shall see. In your Uncle Marty's opinion, it would be cool to see Tether (or general stablecoin usage) migrate back to bitcoin even if he does believe that the USD is failing miserably and stablecoins serve as nothing more than a transitional mechanism that provides a bit of volatility cover as we move from a fiat standard and a bitcoin standard.

Só I believe we will see many more bitcoin address receiving tether I  the future.

[MegaAkker]

. So either they have no clue what they are talking about or it is in fact an address that can receive both Bitcoin and USDT? I did not know that was possible but looking at what bitmover said in the post above this, there are addresses that can receive both?

Yes, a bitcoin address can receive usdt.

Take a look here and explore omni layer
http://omniexplorer.info/

But you can't just send usdt to a bitcoin address. Both Sender and received must be using an omni wallet.

The problem is that Nowadays not many exchanges and using bitcoin network for tether transactions anymore.
In 2021  binance abandoned omni layer
https://[Suspicious link removed]day/binance-abandons-first-ever-tether-platform-omni-network

On the other hand, tether is making yhe first transactions in the lightning network
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/tether-sent-using-the-lightning-network

Will Tether Migrate To The Bitcoin Blockchain With Advances In The Lightning Network?
Marty Bent, Mar 24, 2022

Bitcoin company, Synonym, has successfully used the Lightning Network to send a Tether transaction, paving the way for stablecoins built on Bitcoin.

....

What's interesting about Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning is that it leverages the Omni Layer protocol, which is where Tether originally launched. As on-chain fees increased in the years after Tether launched on Omni Layer Tether usage migrated to other chains to take advantage of their relatively low fees and has since been playing a game of hot potato. Hopping from one chain to the next.

Is Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning something that will push Tether usage back to the bitcoin stack as the Lightning Network currently provides sufficiently low fees on top of the most secure ledger in the world? We shall see. In your Uncle Marty's opinion, it would be cool to see Tether (or general stablecoin usage) migrate back to bitcoin even if he does believe that the USD is failing miserably and stablecoins serve as nothing more than a transitional mechanism that provides a bit of volatility cover as we move from a fiat standard and a bitcoin standard.

Só I believe we will see many more bitcoin address receiving tether I  the future.

Okay, so what scenario do you think is more realistic:
1) Justbet did mistakenly have a Bitcoin address listed under their Tether tab (massive mistake) and therefore the transaction failed
2) Justbet does have a Bitcoin address listed under the Tether tab intentionally because it can receive USDT deposits on there. But if that is the case, they should have had a disclaimer listing that the sender has to use the omni wallet too. And this disclaimer wasn't there so even in this case it's still sloppy.

[pooya87]

There is no such thing as a "Tether address" because Tether is not a regular cryptocurrency, it is a token and tokens live on other blockchains hence use their address. A base58 string starting with 3 is a bitcoin address (or its copies) or a groestlcoin which does't seem to support Tether.
If they had send you Tether you should have seen a bitcoin transaction coming to that address with the smallest amount of bitcoin possible (around 500 satoshi) and at least 2 outputs one of which is using OP_RETURN.
The address you posted hasn't received anything which means they have never sent you anything. Whether it is an address listed by mistake or they never sent you anything it is their fault and you have to contact the support and ask for your funds.

2) Justbet does have a Bitcoin address listed under the Tether tab intentionally because it can receive USDT deposits on there. But if that is the case, they should have had a disclaimer listing that the sender has to use the omni wallet too. And this disclaimer wasn't there so even in this case it's still sloppy.

You have to use an Omni wallet to spend those coins not to receive them. You have not yet received anything.

[MegaAkker]

There is no such thing as a "Tether address" because Tether is not a regular cryptocurrency, it is a token and tokens live on other blockchains hence use their address. A base58 string starting with 3 is a bitcoin address (or its copies) or a groestlcoin which does't seem to support Tether.
If they had send you Tether you should have seen a bitcoin transaction coming to that address with the smallest amount of bitcoin possible (around 500 satoshi) and at least 2 outputs one of which is using OP_RETURN.
The address you posted hasn't received anything which means they have never sent you anything. Whether it is an address listed by mistake or they never sent you anything it is their fault and you have to contact the support and ask for your funds.

2) Justbet does have a Bitcoin address listed under the Tether tab intentionally because it can receive USDT deposits on there. But if that is the case, they should have had a disclaimer listing that the sender has to use the omni wallet too. And this disclaimer wasn't there so even in this case it's still sloppy.

You have to use an Omni wallet to spend those coins not to receive them. You have not yet received anything.

So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here?
I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.

But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain."
Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?

[pooya87]

So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here?
I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.

Well I can't be 100% sure since I don't know everything. But it is clear that the address you posted has not received anything at all: https://blockchair.com/search?q=35Fx6GRmqZiBN9pWrERGU5VQjAHcR4TEVq&submitButton=

Basically when you are withdrawing a token, the interface has to give you an error if you enter a wrong address (like if they support Tether on Tron network only but you enter a bitcoin address). But if they are producing bitcoin addresses themselves for Tether deposits and accept it too for withdrawals (as you said from one sportsbook to another) then they shouldn't be a problem there.

But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain."
Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?

If the transaction failed, it is still their fault. They produced this address and accepted it as valid, didn't they?

[bitmover]

So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here?
I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.

But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain."
Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?

Can you give us more details here, please?

Who is the sender? Coinbase? Binance? A friend of yours? Someone you met in the internet in a shady website promising free coins?

For example, binance has a very clear interface and instructions about USDT withdrawals


This is binance wallet  screenshot with USDT withdrawal options.

They have a lot of options to withdrawal USDT, on many different chains:
BSC, ETH, TRON, MATIC, AVAC, SOL, TEZOS, and many more i don't even know all of those chains.

if you choose the wrong chain and move your coins to some address you don't control, your funds may be lost forever.

You must be very careful and give the correct instructions to the sender.

[bittraffic]

So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here?
I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.

But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain."
Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?

Can you give us more details here, please?

Who is the sender? Coinbase? Binance? A friend of yours? Someone you met in the internet in a shady website promising free coins?

For example, binance has a very clear interface and instructions about USDT withdrawals


This is binance wallet  screenshot with USDT withdrawal options.

They have a lot of options to withdrawal USDT, on many different chains:
BSC, ETH, TRON, MATIC, AVAC, SOL, TEZOS, and many more i don't even know all of those chains.

if you choose the wrong chain and move your coins to some address you don't control, your funds may be lost forever.

You must be very careful and give the correct instructions to the sender.

So many chains today but it is interesting to see USDT on Lightning which is yet not on Binance option. LN has less fee which I bet more will prefer to use the LN.

Unbelievable that a bookie has such an address for a stablecoin. Now the funds are lost forever. I really think it's thier fault. OP, you gotta take a screenshot of all these to prove.

[MegaAkker]

So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here?
I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.

But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain."
Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?

Can you give us more details here, please?

Who is the sender? Coinbase? Binance? A friend of yours? Someone you met in the internet in a shady website promising free coins?

For example, binance has a very clear interface and instructions about USDT withdrawals


This is binance wallet  screenshot with USDT withdrawal options.

They have a lot of options to withdrawal USDT, on many different chains:
BSC, ETH, TRON, MATIC, AVAC, SOL, TEZOS, and many more i don't even know all of those chains.

if you choose the wrong chain and move your coins to some address you don't control, your funds may be lost forever.

You must be very careful and give the correct instructions to the sender.

So many chains today but it is interesting to see USDT on Lightning which is yet not on Binance option. LN has less fee which I bet more will prefer to use the LN.

Unbelievable that a bookie has such an address for a stablecoin. Now the funds are lost forever. I really think it's thier fault. OP, you gotta take a screenshot of all these to prove.

I'm very confused.....some people in this topic say that since nothing is visible on that address, they are 100% certain nothing was ever sent.
And now you are totally on the other side of the spectrum, saying funds are lost forever. Meaning that something for sure was sent since otherwise it cannot be lost.
Do you disagree with the other posters in here who are saying that since it's an empty address with zero history, nothing was ever sent?

[NotATether]

Thanks guys.

Let me clarify a bit: the reason I started this topic is because a couple days ago I requested a withdrawal from one crypto sportsbook to another one. In the cashier section of the other one (named Justbet.cx) they have a list of cryptocurrencies and I selected Tether and got this address (the one I mentioned in the OP).

Why didn't you withdraw to your own wallet in order to have a chance to salvage the funds yourself?

[MegaAkker]

Thanks guys.

Let me clarify a bit: the reason I started this topic is because a couple days ago I requested a withdrawal from one crypto sportsbook to another one. In the cashier section of the other one (named Justbet.cx) they have a list of cryptocurrencies and I selected Tether and got this address (the one I mentioned in the OP).

Why didn't you withdraw to your own wallet in order to have a chance to salvage the funds yourself?

Because it's much easier to transfer from bookmaker to bookmaker if you gamble a lot. I have done this a thousand times (with bitcoin only) and it went well a thousand times. Only this time it's going wrong, because it's the first time I use USDT. And if funds can be salvaged, they will still be salvaged because both parties (sender and intended receiver) can be trusted completely and will collaborate if I give them instructions.  That is not the issue. So you think something can be salvaged? How?

[bitmover]

The sender is bitcoin casino Wintomato, as part of a withdrawal from my account. And they on their turn have an external provider doing the transfers for them.
Please don't question Wintomato's trustability since I have a long history with them and they never did anything bad for me and processed numerous deposits and withdrawals already. But those were always with Bitcoin and this one was the first one with USDT. So I find it hard to believe that they really did not send anything out.

But then again, if they send USDT to a Bitcoin address, shouldn't they get a warning that it's an invalid address?

And on the receiving side of the transfer is the online bookmaker Justbet.cx, also no question about their trustability and I also have a long positive history with them.
It's a deposit into my account there. I just opened the cashier, selected Tether and copied the address and entered into the Wintomato withdrawal screen.

This is wintomato USDT deposit screen. I entered a random Btc address just for testing

https://wintomato.com/en/billing/withdraw

This failed the captcha with the BTC address. So maybe you didn't send anything at all (there is a chance)


They support only TRON and ETH chains (which is disabled now). It is impossible they could have sent USDT in the bitcoin chain to justbet.cx.

You most likely sent in TRON chain to justbet (which can't receive it)

I took a look at justbet.cx and they don't mention USDT support in their website (btc, ltc, etc and bch)
https://www.justbet.co/bitcoin-sportsbook

I'm very confused.....some people in this topic say that since nothing is visible on that address, they are 100% certain nothing was ever sent.
And now you are totally on the other side of the spectrum, saying funds are lost forever. Meaning that something for sure was sent since otherwise it cannot be lost.
Do you disagree with the other posters in here who are saying that since it's an empty address with zero history, nothing was ever sent?

You said the sender Wintomato send something.
You said the receiver didn't receive anything.

So you have something in an address nobody control. This is why it might be lost.

And still I am confused because there are also people here who say Bitcoin addresses can receive USDT payments.

There is nothing to be confused here. Bitcoin address can receive OMNI layer USDT tokens.
Bitcoin addresses cannot receive TRC-20 USDT tokens or any other type of USDT token.

Only this time it's going wrong, because it's the first time I use USDT. And if funds can be salvaged, they will still be salvaged because both parties (sender and intended receiver) can be trusted completely and will collaborate if I give them instructions.  That is not the issue. So you think something can be salvaged? How?

You need to try to discover where did your coins go (if they did go at all). I believe wintomato did not sent anything.

You need to contact wintomato support to see if they did send anything at all. Then, if they did send, you need to look for blockchain confirmation.
If you see a blcokchain confirmation, you might need to contact justbet support to try to recover the private key of the lost funds.

It is very unllikely that third party will try to recover private key of funds sent to wrong addresses, because it is a security risk for them and the fault is on you (who sent coins to the wrong address).

 this is why it is much easier to recover funds that you sent to a wallet you control the private keys.



This is a copy-paste of justbet.cx terms (https://www.justbet.co/bitcoin-sportsbook):

IMPORTANT!

Every Bitcoin transaction uses a unique address. We strongly recommend copying and pasting Bitcoin addresses (use the copy/paste icon in the Cashier). Do not try typing an address by hand. If you make a mistake with the address, it is possible to send the Bitcoin to the wrong receiver and the funds may be lost.

...

Be sure to double-check the address where you are sending or receiving your Bitcoin. If you send to the wrong receiver, there’s usually no way to retrieve the funds, unless the other party agrees to send them back to you.

[seoincorporation]

Bitcoin addresses cannot receive TRC-20 USDT tokens or any other type of USDT token.

This is right, each one works in different blockchain and the right way to send USDT is to swap your BTC to USDT first.

Let me explain to OP the deifference between a BTC addy and a TRC-20 addy.

Bitcoin address can start with 3, 1 & bc1q, Here are some examples:

Code:

1BtcBoSSnqe8mFJCUEyCNmo3EcF8...
3FufnxjdAZY1XEoEThBG1pbCdkiXu...
bc1qtf0vv2hezurt6fpkkk6qlvxy2l7hm29h...

And USDT is an Smart Contract: https://etherscan.io/token/0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7#code

And their address start with 0x. as you can see in the next example:

Code:

0xf57b4f2116e51654d8609e4feb0e090761d795fc76a...

[bitmover]

Bitcoin address can start with 3, 1 & bc1q, Here are some examples:

Code:

1BtcBoSSnqe8mFJCUEyCNmo3EcF8...
3FufnxjdAZY1XEoEThBG1pbCdkiXu...
bc1qtf0vv2hezurt6fpkkk6qlvxy2l7hm29h...

And in Bitcoin we now have the new Taproot (P2TR) format, starting with  bc1p.
For example:
https://mempool.space/address/bc1p0005q9cq22kye6pn64yyqq5lk6sqh85fskxzqwz35a3sz3kw7e8q329up0