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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 13, 2022, 09:32:55 PM
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Quote from: Mia_houston123 on August 12, 2022, 07:31:09 AM
I really respect you for the knowledge you have, and I hope you can be fair to anyone regardless of whether you like the person or not, because you are now a DT and as a DT you have to be fair and not just drown someone with mistakes with not have absolutely solid evidence as you did some time ago, so to give rise to the notion that you are abusing trust.
LOL, this is a completely different matter. But do you really want me to do something a little more cruel to the 16 accounts that are most likely your friends?
Let me tell you, I have valid proof to tag all those accounts even if I wanted to do it now. One of them has been banned, so maybe 15 other accounts should get the same due to ban evasion. So if you want to drag them here again, then brace yourself and your friends too. I removed the red tag for one reason, but that doesn't mean I can't tag it again next time based on all the available evidence. It's not a threat, but when I have enough time, I'll come back to them.
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but I don't want to be a desperate person because in any case, it's certainly not justified for someone to get a sentence without stronger evidence.
The evidence you post is far more powerful than bullshit from your story.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 14, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
#22
Quote from: _BlackStar on August 13, 2022, 09:32:55 PM
The evidence you post is far more powerful than bullshit from your story.
I want to ask about this case, Xal0lex said:
Quote from: Xal0lex on August 13, 2022, 08:37:10 PM
Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.
So since some of the evidence in
this report post
has been deleted by the user in question (no longer on the forum) then is there any chance for mia_houston to be unbanned?
I know that there is solid evidence in the spreadsheet of mia_houston's participation using the same twitter as the previously banned rindo, but isn't that external evidence that exists outside the forum considering the authentication post no longer exists?
This question is not a defense for mia_houston, but I'd like to understand some basic rules about how a user is considered ban evasion. Thanks.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 14, 2022, 09:14:15 AM
#23
Quote from: indah rezqi on August 14, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
So since some of the evidence in
this report post
has been deleted by the user in question (no longer on the forum) then is there any chance for mia_houston to be unbanned?
Only global moderators can decide that, I never know.
Quote from: indah rezqi on August 14, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
I know that there is solid evidence in the spreadsheet of mia_houston's participation using the same twitter as the previously banned rindo, but isn't that external evidence that exists outside the forum considering the authentication post no longer exists?
If global moderators don't find a reason why mia_houston should be ban because ban evasion, then I really don't expect them to. Existing evidence shows that he worth it for ban evasion, but I don't really know what evidence got mia_houston banned other than the evidence reported by @rhomelmabini and his habit of spamming.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 14, 2022, 12:39:49 PM
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Quote from: indah rezqi on August 14, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
So since some of the evidence in
this report post
has been deleted by the user in question (no longer on the forum) then is there any chance for mia_houston to be unbanned?
I don't think so. By that logic, anyone could request an unban after simply deleting their old posts. Aside from that, posts on the forum are not actually deleted, but only hidden from the public. Moderators can probably still see them in the trash. Those posts are moved from the active database to the backup only after a year, as far as I know.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 14, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
#25
Quote from: indah rezqi on August 14, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
Quote from: _BlackStar on August 13, 2022, 09:32:55 PM
The evidence you post is far more powerful than bullshit from your story.
I want to ask about this case, Xal0lex said:
Quote from: Xal0lex on August 13, 2022, 08:37:10 PM
Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.
So since some of the evidence in
this report post
has been deleted by the user in question (no longer on the forum) then is there any chance for mia_houston to be unbanned?
That means that at the time the report was reviewed by the global moderator, the post had not yet been deleted. I don't remember exactly, but when I reviewed this post for the first time, it seemed to be on the forum. Or the reason for the ban was another rule violation. In any case, the true reason for the ban is known only to the one who banned mia_houston.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 15, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
#26
Quote from: Xal0lex on August 14, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
In any case, the true reason for the ban is known only to the one who banned mia_houston.
...is known to the one who banned and I think also an email should be sent to the banned account providing detailed reasons the account was banned. Though I don't know how it works, but I think there should be a way to tell a user the particular reason the account was banned. I am concerned about this because I have seen someone appealing for banned account but doesn't know actually the reason the account was banned. Maybe the person was accused of plagiarism and later on accusation of another offence.
Meanwhile, I believe that the reason that would make a good hero account like that of Op to be banned should be strong and convincing. Besides, if I am a judge, I can pardon a mistake make 4years ago and then place the account on probation, which will then get banned if there is a slight sign of further violation.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 15, 2022, 10:20:00 PM
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Quote from: KingsDen on August 15, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Meanwhile, I believe that the reason that would make a good hero account like that of Op to be banned should be strong and convincing. Besides, if I am a judge, I can pardon a mistake make 4years ago and then place the account on probation, which will then get banned if there is a slight sign of further violation.
Ban evasion is still ban evasion, they must bear the consequences. The rules don't say that if you make a good contribution to the forum but you make ban evasion, you can be forgiven as is the case in the case of a ban on plagiarism. I've never seen anyone with an ban evasion get unbaned, but I've seen forum contributors forgiven after being banned for plagiarism. These are resolved case by case, but obviously not all of them.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 15, 2022, 10:22:09 PM
#28
Quote from: KingsDen on August 15, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Quote from: Xal0lex on August 14, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
In any case, the true reason for the ban is known only to the one who banned mia_houston.
...is known to the one who banned and I think also an email should be sent to the banned account providing detailed reasons the account was banned. Though I don't know how it works, but I think there should be a way to tell a user the particular reason the account was banned. I am concerned about this because I have seen someone appealing for banned account but doesn't know actually the reason the account was banned. Maybe the person was accused of plagiarism and later on accusation of another offence.
As far as I know, global moderators do not practice this. The only thing in the Russian-language section of the forum
I have a topic
where I post information about banned accounts with an indication of the reason for the ban. But in that list are only Russian-speaking accounts.
Quote from: KingsDen on August 15, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Meanwhile, I believe that the reason that would make a good hero account like that of Op to be banned should be strong and convincing. Besides, if I am a judge, I can pardon a mistake make 4years ago and then place the account on probation, which will then get banned if there is a slight sign of further violation.
Well, she has already been offered an option in this thread:
Quote from: tranthidung on August 09, 2022, 11:48:43 PM
If you make a ban appeal, you should provide evidence of your contribution, to show good net effects for unban. You did not include evidence in this thread.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
August 15, 2022, 11:35:39 PM
#29
Quote from: _BlackStar on August 15, 2022, 10:20:00 PM
Quote from: KingsDen on August 15, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Meanwhile, I believe that the reason that would make a good hero account like that of Op to be banned should be strong and convincing. Besides, if I am a judge, I can pardon a mistake make 4years ago and then place the account on probation, which will then get banned if there is a slight sign of further violation.
I've never seen anyone with an ban evasion get unbaned, but I've seen forum contributors forgiven after being banned for plagiarism. These are resolved case by case, but obviously not all of them.
Yea, they are resolved case by case and the few lucky ones to be unbanned after commiting plagiarism presented their case as;
1. Newbie Mistakes
2. Not intended to steal or make money out of it.
3. Must have contributed obviously to the growth of the forum.
In the case of ban evasion, if the offenders present a strong case based on the aforelisted items, they could get chances of being unbanned as well.
Quote from: Xal0lex on August 15, 2022, 10:22:09 PM
Well, she has already been offered an option in this thread:
Good to know, sorry I didn't follow up the thread post by post.
If the option is signature ban or something more lenient, Op should gladly accept then.
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Re: Appeal Mia_houston
October 14, 2022, 05:07:19 PM
#30
I still feel very lost and hope that the moderators will return to recover my account, because in this case I hope that the moderators will reconsider my defense.
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