Q4 2010-Q1 2011 wallets

[Bennoko]

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

[bitmover]

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

12 words seeds only began in 2013 in bip 39 standard
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0039

One of the oldest and safest wallets is electrum, which is compatible with mnemonic seeds.

[Charles-Tim]

It can be 12, 15, 18 or 24 words, but 12 and 24-word BIP39 wallets are the most common.

For bitcoin, I prefer Electrum, it has its own own seed phrase differently, you can import BIP39 seed phrase on Electrum, but you can not import Electrum wallet seed phrase on BIP39 wallets, except Bluewallet. Electrum support lightning payment.

I like Bluewallet also, newbies can use it for lightning payment and support BIP39 and Electrum.

Never reveal your seed phrase to anyone, anyone that knows it can spend you coin.

[Bennoko]

 bluewallet was exist in 2011? Am talking about the past, what wallets people were using btw end of 2010 or q1 2011.
I ve seeds from the past and I remember its electrum but couldn’t  get it work with electrum

[hosseinimr93]

bluewallet was exist in 2011?

No.

Am talking about the past, what wallets people were using btw end of 2010 or q1 2011.

One type of wallets people were using that time was paper wallet. It was a combination of an address an a private key written on a paper.
The other wallet I know people could use that time was bitcoin core.

I ve seeds from the past and I remember its electrum but couldn’t  get it work with electrum

If I'm not wrong, in the very old versions of electrum, there was a seed phrase which was created using a different algorithm and a different word list.

[khaled0111]

I believe it's safe to assume that the most used wallet back in 2010-2011 was bitcoin core and the name of the software was bitcoin-qt, if am not wrong!
However, HD wallets and bip32 was introduced in 2012. So if you are certain your wallet is older than that then it should be in the form of private keys or a file usually named wallet with no extension.
If you have a 12 word seed then your wallet certainly can't be older than 2012. Try to import it into Electrum or a wallet that supports bip39 standard and see if it works.

[hosseinimr93]

If you have a 12 word seed then your wallet certainly can't be older than 2012.

Not quite true.
Take a look at the topic created by ThomasV in November, 2011.
In that time, electrum was using a 12 word seed. That seed was created using a different algorithm from a word list containing 1626 words.

[Bennoko]

Yes 12 different words, no chance to be before 2012?i deeply remember it must be earlier 2011, cause bitcoin was around 0.2dolars something and it was showing total funds below. My seeds exactly fits the old electrum mnemonic v1 wordlist, its also says old type but i can not see any transactions and no balance

[Cricktor]

I got to know about Bitcoin somewhere around 2011 and remember Bitcoin-Qt only as wallet of choise. Don't remember if it was called already Bitcoin Core in 2011. I was not too happy about the need to have only a file backup of your wallet and you had to be careful to always have a backup of the most recent version of your wallet, as there was the possibility to loose keys and funds when your most recent backup was outdated and your last copy of your wallet. (Not going into too much detail why.)

I don't remember when I first heard about Armory which to my knowledge first implemented some sort of deterministic key derivation (not compatible to todays HD wallet derivation schemes). Early Armory didn't use normal words, though.

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Could be something with derivation path (but I wouldn't assume this to be a topic in those early years)?

Which software version did you use to check your old mnemonic words?

[Bennoko]

I also remember in console tab, there re showing the people with names and how much donations they sent the server. Does anybody remember that? is that electrum are we sure?

i tried my seeds from all versions which is in electrum deposit. Also tried with debian 10 before 0.40 versions

[BlackHatCoiner]

The first bitcoin wallet software was Bitcoin-QT, which was a Bitcoin client as well. You can still download and run the very first binaries: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68121.0. In 2011, MultiBit was launched, which was very popular at that time. Then, Electrum which is probably one of the most used. Later, in 2012, Armory.

You should move this to the Wallet Software board.

[Bennoko]

The first bitcoin wallet software was Bitcoin-QT, which was a Bitcoin client as well. You can still download and run the very first binaries: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68121.0. In 2011, MultiBit was launched, which was very popular at that time. Then, Electrum which probably one of the most used. Later, in 2012, Armory.

You should move this to the Wallet Software board.

Looking for a wallet with 12 words type around 2011
Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time. i dont think its multibit also. All of my attentions re on electrum somehow. ecsda.electrum i also remember with a black page. What am i doing wrong

[hosseinimr93]

Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time.

Right. Even now, bitcoin core doesn't support seed phrase.

All of my attentions re on electrum somehow.

If all words exist in the old electrum word list, there's a big probability that the wallet has been generated by electrum.
Maybe, the wallet hasn't been funded at all and that's simply why you don't see any balance.

[Bennoko]

Bitcoin qt is not working with seeds i think in that time.

Right. Even now, bitcoin core doesn't support seed phrase.

All of my attentions re on electrum somehow.

If all words exist in the old electrum word list, there's a big probability that the wallet has been generated by electrum.
Maybe, the wallet hasn't been funded at all and that's simply why you don't see any balance.

No, there must be something inside, at least the wallet has to show the transactions.

Last time i ve reached my wallet like 2012 summer, the pop up message like “update the electrum copy the private keys” its even showing what i ve n all transactions, so i left it as it is

I just wanna be sure if its electrum or
If Anybody see the topic and used to use electrum 2010 to 2012, in console tab its showing donators how much they donate the server n with their names, does remember this thing please light me up

[Cricktor]

Usually the first things that are shown in the Electrum console tab is the text banner response from the Electrum server to which your Electrum wallet connects. That might include some details you remember, usually a donation public address and maybe as motivation attempt what amounts have been donated by others. And whatever the Electrum server owner deems fit to let his peers know about.

[DireWolfM14]

No, there must be something inside, at least the wallet has to show the transactions.

Last time i ve reached my wallet like 2012 summer, the pop up message like “update the electrum copy the private keys” its even showing what i ve n all transactions, so i left it as it is

I just wanna be sure if its electrum or
If Anybody see the topic and used to use electrum 2010 to 2012, in console tab its showing donators how much they donate the server n with their names, does remember this thing please light me up

It doesn't matter what software was used to create the seed in the past.  If it's a valid seed, then you should be able to restore your wallets.  As I recall, Electrum was in development as early as 2011, but the first release was in 2013.  The most widely used wallet during the time you're referring to was bitcoin core.

Have you tried to restore the seed in the current version of Electrum?

[nc50lc]

For reference, OP already tried various old versions of Electrum before the compatibility-breaking updates and failed to restore the correct wallet.
Here is his old thread: Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

[Bennoko]

For reference, OP already tried various old versions of Electrum before the compatibility-breaking updates and failed to restore the correct wallet.
Here is his old thread: Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

Thank u for the info bro u tried to help me a lot


At the end of my searches and tries, am gonna think there is invalid seed that i dont know the reason or my electrum modified with someone else but i do remember i exactly downloaded from ecdsa. However did anybody rescue any bitcoin with btcrecover especially v1 electrum?

[Bennoko]

Hello guys, i want to ask to old people who follows bitcoin since the beginning or anyone which has a knowledge about.
What kind of desktop wallets re using in that time? What were the wallet names for windows? With the 12 mnemonic seeds

Thank you

12 words seeds only began in 2013 in bip 39 standard
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0039

This isn't true. Very early version of Electrum (0.X) on 2011 already generate 12 words by default. I made a post about it few months ago at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379817.msg58942538#msg58942538. But OP should already know about it.

What am i doing wrong

You misremember detail of how you manage your Bitcoin.

Any empty wallet would erase the transactions in history if its not in use? Empty no funds untouched wallet?  Like 10 years? Or transactions must shown up all the in the wallet whenever u open?

[hosseinimr93]

Any empty wallet would erase the transactions in history if its not in use? Empty no funds untouched wallet?  Like 10 years? Or transactions must shown up all the in the wallet whenever u open?

Transactions are recorded and stay in the blockchain forever.
If you don't see any transaction, it means that the wallet you opened has been never used.