Q4 2010-Q1 2011 wallets

[Bennoko]

hello have you tried armony wallet?

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

[1714494876]

1714494876

[1714494876]

1714494876

[1714494876]

1714494876

[Bennoko]

hello have you tried armony wallet?

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

a version of electrum was released in beta version in 2010 then it was finalized in 2011

Source? My wallet allows me to copy the private key with one click on btc adress thats I remember exactly
Does beta version do that? Do u know?

[DireWolfM14]

hello have you tried armony wallet?

Is that a typo?  Do you mean Armory Wallet?

No never heard of it, i look for desktop wallets around 2011

I think he means Armory Wallet which was first released in early 2012.  If you were extracting individual private keys, that might have been the wallet you used.  That could explain why your seed phrase doesn't restore anything when restored in Electrum.  Armory does use seed phrases, but they're not Bip39 compatible.

[hosseinimr93]

If you were extracting individual private keys, that might have been the wallet you used.  That could explain why your seed phrase doesn't restore anything when restored in Electrum.  Armory does use seed phrases, but they're not Bip39 compatible.

Armory gives you 18 sets of meaningless four-letter words which is called root key.
Given that OP has a seed phrase including 12 words, it can't be generated by Armory.

[Bennoko]

Yes it cant be armory, i ve 12 words, fits with v1 electrum wordlist


Newbie You ve solution, would u explain how?

[Bennoko]

No there is not, If you write your solution proposal long, we will not be occupying the page and forum.

[Bennoko]

Yes they re

[16xypjnxlrew]

Did you have a lot of bitcoins in your wallet? Are you sure you didn't have a dream? When I set a password on my Bitcoin Core and forgot it, I tried to remember it for several hours, but then I gave up and deleted this wallet, then installed a mobile Trust Wallet that gives more functionality. And I screened 12 words and now my wallet is the most secure, although it is empty 

[Cricktor]

When I set a password on my Bitcoin Core and forgot it, I tried to remember it for several hours, but then I gave up and deleted this wallet, ...

It doesn't make any sense to delete the wallet as 1) you may remember your password suddenly (human memory is sometimes like that),
2) if your wallet password wasn't too complex it might be possible to crack it, especially if you remember parts of it (there are lots of tools for that, hashcat is one of them)
3) it's almost always a mistake to not write down a freshly invented password, even if you only tweaked your personal favorite password somehow for your wallet (or whatever password creation procedures you use; humans are usually terribly bad to create good passwords)

... then installed a mobile Trust Wallet that gives more functionality. And I screened 12 words and now my wallet is the most secure, although it is empty 

Did you make a screenshot of your 12 mnemonic words of your Trust wallet, a digital copy of it on a internet connected mobile device?
Terribly wrong procedure and good look with the security of your wallet in the future. Oh, don't cry later should it get suddenly emptied after you put some funds into your mobile Trust wallet. (If you made a screenshot it likely got already distributed to some cloud services who do unknown picture screening by their so-called picture recognition tools to identify picture content, tag pictures, you name it...

[16xypjnxlrew]

It doesn't make any sense to delete the wallet as 1) you may remember your password suddenly (human memory is sometimes like that),
2) if your wallet password wasn't too complex it might be possible to crack it, especially if you remember parts of it (there are lots of tools for that, hashcat is one of them)
3) it's almost always a mistake to not write down a freshly invented password, even if you only tweaked your personal favorite password somehow for your wallet (or whatever password creation procedures you use; humans are usually terribly bad to create good passwords)

Did you make a screenshot of your 12 mnemonic words of your Trust wallet, a digital copy of it on a internet connected mobile device?
Terribly wrong procedure and good look with the security of your wallet in the future. Oh, don't cry later should it get suddenly emptied after you put some funds into your mobile Trust wallet. (If you made a screenshot it likely got already distributed to some cloud services who do unknown picture screening by their so-called picture recognition tools to identify picture content, tag pictures, you name it...

The wallet was deleted in 2019 and there is no way to restore it! Even on Android sends? But they are checked by a robot, not a person? I read an article that a married couple who stole bitcoins worth several million-billion dollars kept a private key in the cloud and nothing happened to it

[Abdussamad]

are the words in the mnemonic in this list too:

https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/master/mnemonic_words_v3.html

If yes then you could have a blockchain.info legacy wallet. This is a non-hd wallet and the mnemonic is used as a password reminder. You will need to enter the mnemonic on this page here to get the password:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/forgot-password

You will also need the wallet UUID which is a long hexadecimal number. You can find that by searching your email archives for emails from blockchain.info. You can then login here:

https://login.blockchain.com/#/login?product=wallet

If you can't find the UUID try using an email address instead.

[hosseinimr93]

If yes then you could have a blockchain.info legacy wallet. This is a non-hd wallet and the mnemonic is used as a password reminder.

As far as I know, seed phrases generated by blockchain.info wallet from that list contains 16-20 words.
As OP's seed phrase includes 12 words, I don't think it can be generated by blockchain.info wallet.

[Bennoko]

hello can you start again from the beginning? do you remember having an electrum wallet in 2010?
the seeds you have are in v1?
but the seeds you have open an empty wallet?

Yes, all u say is exactly correct, i do remember i had some wallets around 2010 probably end of 2010. I thought its 2009 but no, long time i ve been thinking it must be q4 of 2010. So whatever we talked about that in this forum some months ago. U can examine the details.  nc50lc shared the link in first page

[BlackHatCoiner]

Guys, Electrum was mentioned in November 10, 2011 for the very first time in this forum, it can't have been an Electrum wallet. There weren't neither seeds nor HD wallets back then. If it was a wallet funded prior 2011, it must have been using Satoshi's Bitcoin-QT.

[Pmalek]

I read an article that a married couple who stole bitcoins worth several million-billion dollars kept a private key in the cloud and nothing happened to it.

What's your point? That it's OK to keep seeds, private keys, and other sensitive information in the cloud because a married couple somewhere didn't have theirs hacked/stolen/lost? You can drive your car 100 miles/hour every day without a seatbelt and never have an accident if you are lucky. But you can also crash and die the first time you do it. You can smoke for 50 years and live a long life and die an old man at 85, or you can get cancer and die at 30. You don't use those examples to cheat on security and your safety. The goal should be to follow proper procedures to lower the chances of bad things happening to you, no matter if it's related to your personal health or your financials.

[16xypjnxlrew]

What's your point? That it's OK to keep seeds, private keys, and other sensitive information in the cloud because a married couple somewhere didn't have theirs hacked/stolen/lost? You can drive your car 100 miles/hour every day without a seatbelt and never have an accident if you are lucky. But you can also crash and die the first time you do it. You can smoke for 50 years and live a long life and die an old man at 85, or you can get cancer and die at 30. You don't use those examples to cheat on security and your safety. The goal should be to follow proper procedures to lower the chances of bad things happening to you, no matter if it's related to your personal health or your financials.

Why did you cut out my phrase from the context? In my post, it was about the fact that I don't believe that Android could send my photos and screenshots to some cloud for checking, because I have turned off the synchronization with Google Drive. And even if my photos and screenshots secretly go to some cloud can't be checked by a person, but some robot does them

[Pmalek]

And even if my photos and screenshots secretly go to some cloud can't be checked by a person, but some robot does them

A real person might not be interested in checking your data due to millions of other files that may or may not have greater priority. When the Coinomi wallet incident happened a few years ago, it turned out that Coinomi was sending seed phrases from their desktop users to Google services for spellchecking. That data was also supposed to be checked by a bot or automatic service. Despite that, a significant sum of money was lost and someone somewhere got hold of the unencrypted seed phrase. A bot couldn't do that, but a person having access to the bot's data could.

[Bennoko]

 :)trying to steal peoples money thats not a kind of business for me, i told all the details i remember, there is no more secure than having private key or seeds in 2010-2012, so u cant hide the funds i think. I ve one last hhd drive that i didnt recover the history yet and somewhere i put, hidden somewhere in my house, i cant find it, how pity, that cracks me up, its last of my hope, and main hdd (all the transactions i did) is next to me. its breakdown for a long time, there re some lil scratches on the plate disks it d work on carefully hands but i trust noone, how great

[16xypjnxlrew]

:)trying to steal peoples money thats not a kind of business for me, i told all the details i remember, there is no more secure than having private key or seeds in 2010-2012, so u cant hide the funds i think. I ve one last hhd drive that i didnt recover the history yet and somewhere i put, hidden somewhere in my house, i cant find it, how pity, that cracks me up, its last of my hope, and main hdd (all the transactions i did) is next to me. its breakdown for a long time, there re some lil scratches on the plate disks it d work on carefully hands but i trust noone, how great

What recovery programs will you use? How could you scratch the inside of the disc? Did you open it?

[Bennoko]

Recuva, r studio, easeus and i ve 2 more. I opened it for a take a look, the reading head is broken, it makes damaged that whenever i try to switch power.