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August 17, 2022, 10:44:26 AM
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Considering how polarized United States is and how the violence has been increasing alongside inflation over there, I'm interested to know what others think about the possibility of a civil war, specially if you are from US.

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August 17, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
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Considering how polarized United States is and how the violence has been increasing alongside inflation over there, I'm interested to know what others think about the possibility of a civil war, specially if you are from US.


    There will be no civil war since the country is in recession which citizens are aware of that,which means they know that inflation must occur even all countries are presently under inflation.violence is carried out by human,if you are been caught you will face the law. The citizens know all this

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August 18, 2022, 06:49:15 PM
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The United States is considered a mature country, they can handle their issues and ensure a civil war never breaks out. It is possible that they can go into a war with another country, but If asked the possibility of a civil war, I'd say it is highly unlikely, they are not called the United States for no reason.

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August 18, 2022, 08:03:11 PM
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"Civil war" is a new (well, not quite but newish) nutjob meme, mostly right wing but there are some leftists too, who can't cope with whatever "issues" they have - like pancakes not hot enough at IHOP - and the only explanation for said issues is a massive government conspiracy that can only be resolved via civil war. Obviously the orange piece of lard didn't help by discrediting the election process, so the nutjobs now have one more excuse to not vote like normal people but bitch and moan on the intertubes and dream of the day they can kill people they disagree with.
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August 18, 2022, 09:42:28 PM
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There will be no civil war, because there is no flag agreed by those who hate the US constitution. (or not that I know as a US citizen)

If a flag is made, and enough people rally behind it, then maybe.

Which 'nation' inside the US will go to war with the US constitution?

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August 19, 2022, 07:39:45 PM
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Polarization does not mean civil war. Their first (and only) civil war was not because polarization, but rather a fundamental cultural divide and economic issues. While it seems that those issues are present today, they are nowhere near as they were back then.

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August 19, 2022, 08:10:13 PM
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It is an exaggeration to think of a civil war in the United States even with the crisis of gun ownership and the wave of violence occurring in almost all the states. The reason is simply that all these events are individual events and have nothing to do with organized plans.

The reasons that lead to the civil war are mainly ideological reasons, motivated by ethnicities or religions through various manifestations. This does not seem to me to be the case in the United States now.

As for the economic downturn, it is a global crisis facing the whole world, and I do not think a country is able to overcome it even if it fought a civil war.

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Polarization does not mean civil war. Their first (and only) civil war was not because polarization, but rather a fundamental cultural divide and economic issues. While it seems that those issues are present today, they are nowhere near as they were back then.

Polarization is going to become a larger issue as we go forward.  The pendulum is swinging further and further in each direction and that means more and more craziness.  I feel like after 9/11 it seemed like Americans were feeling patriotic and coming together, but cooperation and patriotism has been on the downhill slide since then.  This recent rise in Trump supporters has seemed to buck the trend a bit over the last few years, but I feel like that's just a blip.

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Most Americans are too fat for a civil war.

The riots at the Capitol had something like 3 or 4 deaths that pertained to obesity related causes like a heart attack or stroke. There are not much prospects for a civil war if most people in the developed world can't walk up a flight of stairs without being breathless.  Grin
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There's no country in this world who are good at causing a problem for other countries than the USA because they wanted for their country to be free from American Soldiers just like what we have seen with Afghanistan. For them to cause in their own country, that would not possible because they already mastered how it will begin and they already prevented it. Just like what Trump said, they caused the civil war in Iraq and Libya.

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I see the the driving force for the two as different from each other, let's take a look at inflation, many factors as a result of pandemic and war, this are as a result of demand and supply that cut short within a specific time, causing the price of a commodity to rise or fall base on the availability of the market, civil war is mostly cause by inter geopolitical affairs between countries resulting to dispute thereby causing the strong nation or country exercising power, rule or mastery over the weak resulting into conflict that turns into war over a prolonged duration.

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August 29, 2022, 08:13:34 PM
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The United States is considered a mature country, they can handle their issues and ensure a civil war never breaks out. It is possible that they can go into a war with another country, but If asked the possibility of a civil war, I'd say it is highly unlikely, they are not called the United States for no reason.

If a second Civil War ever begins, it will probably be because the elites calling the shots found a way to make it profitable to themselves.

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The United States is considered a mature country, they can handle their issues and ensure a civil war never breaks out. It is possible that they can go into a war with another country, but If asked the possibility of a civil war, I'd say it is highly unlikely, they are not called the United States for no reason.

If a second Civil War ever begins, it will probably be because the elites calling the shots found a way to make it profitable to themselves.

It's the people who can't think very well who join in a civil war. Meanwhile the thinkers among them reap profits wherever they see an opportunity.

For example, a shoe and boot maker doesn't have time to fight in a civil war, because he is making shoes and boots for both sides.

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This article was just released today which says More than 40% of Americans think civil war likely within a decade.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/29/us-civil-war-fears-poll

I don't know if they will wait in a decade specially if all of whats going on today and bad decisions of the government, inflation and hunger due to food crisis, this is not going to make them wait for a decade. History repeats itself, you know the country was created and its due to civil war when Britain taxed them.


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October 26, 2022, 12:07:49 AM
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Considering how polarized United States is and how the violence has been increasing alongside inflation over there, I'm interested to know what others think about the possibility of a civil war, specially if you are from US.

I have a prediction about how they are going to try to prevent it if it becomes serious but I don't want to jinx it so here is SHA256 hash of it lol 2330132f31cf79d0113d81036d42f4d6ddbb64628ad0fbe189f99842ea0d4e16
there will be no war, because from the past there are times when the atmosphere is like that, so don't be weird and don't ask too many questions,
it's a common thing in America.
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^^^ Right. It's a common thing in America. After all, you can see from the multitudes of divorces that there are little civil wars going on all over the place... in America.

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October 26, 2022, 05:29:48 PM
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Perhaps most concerning, a survey published last fall found that 80% of Biden voters and 84% of Trump voters view elected officials from the other party as “presenting a clear and present danger to American Democracy.” It also reported that 41% of Biden voters and 52% of Trump voters favor red or blue states seceding from the Union to form their own separate country, with 30% Republicans and 11% of Democrats ready to resort to violence to save the country. That is approximately 20 million Americans ready to fight in a country with 400-plus million guns. And this data was collected before the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the recent FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, both of which are currently being weaponized by political pundits.

The article itself is worth reading (from the standpoint of a conflict-resolution professional).

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October 27, 2022, 01:50:15 PM
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Perhaps most concerning, a survey published last fall found that 80% of Biden voters and 84% of Trump voters view elected officials from the other party as “presenting a clear and present danger to American Democracy.” It also reported that 41% of Biden voters and 52% of Trump voters favor red or blue states seceding from the Union to form their own separate country, with 30% Republicans and 11% of Democrats ready to resort to violence to save the country. That is approximately 20 million Americans ready to fight in a country with 400-plus million guns. And this data was collected before the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the recent FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, both of which are currently being weaponized by political pundits.

The article itself is worth reading (from the standpoint of a conflict-resolution professional).
I was reading that article but stopped once I got to the image/table titled "how we got so divided", which discredited the author.

To address your quote from the article, and the theme of the OP -- money is ultimately what drives elections; money is needed for political advertisements, and for get-out-the-vote/voter outreach efforts. The most effective way to get money is to scare people into sending money; this is often done by describing the election as very important, and by labeling their opponents as extremists.
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October 27, 2022, 02:21:55 PM
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Perhaps most concerning, a survey published last fall found that 80% of Biden voters and 84% of Trump voters view elected officials from the other party as “presenting a clear and present danger to American Democracy.” It also reported that 41% of Biden voters and 52% of Trump voters favor red or blue states seceding from the Union to form their own separate country, with 30% Republicans and 11% of Democrats ready to resort to violence to save the country. That is approximately 20 million Americans ready to fight in a country with 400-plus million guns. And this data was collected before the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the recent FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, both of which are currently being weaponized by political pundits.

The article itself is worth reading (from the standpoint of a conflict-resolution professional).
I was reading that article but stopped once I got to the image/table titled "how we got so divided", which discredited the author.

To address your quote from the article, and the theme of the OP -- money is ultimately what drives elections; money is needed for political advertisements, and for get-out-the-vote/voter outreach efforts. The most effective way to get money is to scare people into sending money; this is often done by describing the election as very important, and by labeling their opponents as extremists.

Besides, in these times of US poverty coming to many people, most of the media Internet sites have a lot more advertising on them. So, you can barely figure out what the site says because all the advertising gets in the way.

Btw, are you making much off your advertising in Bitcointalk? Thanks for keeping it down there rather than all over the page.

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