Is United States on the verge of a civil war?

[iBaba]

Practically not. The US is a developed country with a high literacy rate and more educated & more conscious people. Moreover, the government is well aware of dealing with such situations. So there are no chances of Civil war within the United States.

I agree with you that the United States is a developed country that has already kind of outgrown the tendencies of going into a civil war but there's been a series and pockets of civil unrest in some region of the country and the government does not seem to address these issues head on even when these things have been happening over the years and increasing in numbers.

I know this is the reason why Donald Trump has frown against the immigrants and promised to deport them back to their country which I heard the first batch of deported immigrants for Nigeria was taken back to their country but we also need to keep asking whether it is the immigrants that are the cause of these challenges or it is the government that has not stabilized security so well that the citizens carry out different heinous activities but have sentiments built around it to cover or justify their wrongdoing.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The media and politicians are creating a lot of division and hatred of others. Mental health issues aren’t taken seriously, people have easy access to guns, and violence committed by the U.S. government and its allies is always being glorified. School shootings are so common that you get desensitized. Tensions will only continue to escalate in this environment.

I don’t think it will reach the point of civil war. We will instead see more repression and limitations on civil liberties. They will look for more excuses to deplatform, debank, and disappear anyone who is a dissident of the current regime. This will make it harder to organize on a large scale and we will likely only see isolated incidents from time to time.

[_Miracle]

3 years later this term is being used more...

(1) polarized United States (2) violence has been increasing (3) inflation

+
(4) recession
(5) corruption
(6) Trump
(7) genocide
( debt
(9) isolation of USA

I'm still curious to know what Americans think.

In 2007 I was center, leaning right for small government with less regulation and left for individual freedom and civil liberties. Real Estate Broker, member of Rotary, involved in community and my daughter’s activities in school.
Being registered with no party affiliation (aka Independent) didn’t affect my personal relationships with Democrats/Republicans other than bringing questions which could turn into conversations regarding specific policies.

2008 began my re-awakening.

The founding of our country on classical liberal enlightenment ideals such as equality used to make me aspire to libertarianism but at this moment, we seem bent on proving that we don’t even have what it takes for a free democratic republic.
It could be that founding a country on hypocrisy, social constructs of hierarchy with a wealthy elite wielding the most influence and teaching propagandized history without critical thinking skills will always bring us backwards until we reckon with those things.

George Carlin talking about Bush Administration as a “pre fascist state”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5eqb4PlxBE&ab_channel=JackSeal --40 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOTAdvc1MJM&list=PL2AO4_ZVyGMzvkNiZgxdpo_lIMiZeujMj&index=2&ab_channel=OfficialGeorgeCarlin  ---2005 It’s a big club and we ain’t in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE3sYUJASLY&ab_channel=ClownJewels -- "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interest converge."
I hope we the 99% get up to speed regarding our converging interests.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583  - Kevin Roberts said the [2nd] revolution will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

Has the 1st American Revolution 249 years ago even been fully been realized?
Our 1st Civil war never ended, they took the confederate flag down in South Carolina 10 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3io80FUV08&ab_channel=WBTVNews-Charlotte
And that ignited more grievance –The Great Replacement Theory came to the forefront.
Charlie Kirk was shot by a white man and black colleges had to go on lock down under threats of violent “retaliation”.


I think Trump is a constitutional seditionist who exploits and exemplifies the rot in our system perfectly.
He is for himself and against anything that doesn’t feed his avarice of ego.
He incited an insurrection, pardoned the insurrectionists and is in the process of rewriting its history while attempting to further dumb down our American history with executive orders, withholding funds from colleges and censoring museums.

Picking fights with our allies and being flattered by former Russian intelligence President Putin.
Our government has been captured by money and false Christianity posing as morality.

If you ask maga “he’s the best president ever”.
They think his grievances are their grievances and anything else he does doesn’t matter.

If you watch/read Katie Johnson’s formal declaration (almost a decade ago) the Epstein connection was clear then and his belief systems on full display to this moment in time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo&t=466s&ab_channel=ScottDybiec -video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4UA9r-o2k&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow  -10/2016
With Epstein you see how the powerful want more control and ARE then controlled.
The trial should -finally- go forward.  Then the rhetoric around “law and order” might at least have a whiff of legitimacy.

Elon Musk donated millions in an election and then got total access to our government.
Reposting a meme about “the parasites thrashing hard” ---YES you guys really are.
The debt ceiling was raised by trillions while social programs were cut.
Our police are already over militarized now the military will be aimed at US citizens.
Our supreme court who passed Citizens United in 2010, struck down Roe v. wade a couple years ago and just ruled with only (3 dissenting) that I.C.E. agents can racially profile.
Prisons and detention centers profit the rich donors at the expense of taxpayers.
The Hyundai plant in Georgia was I.C.E. raided and hundreds of Koreans setting up the plant are getting deported ---approved in 2022 to fill over 1000 jobs for ‘mericans
The world watches another “Trail of Tears” as they level Palestine to dust so the 1% can profit.
                                                               And it’s out in the open go watch the Trump Gaza A.I. video he re-posted <---the oppression is strong with this one
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9fIaP0T_p5g Trump on US ‘owning” the Gaza strip 7 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ7C5EOf274&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21 (9-12-25)
Trying to quiet dissent (not just in my country) where millions are protesting to build up to 3.5%

https://apnews.com/article/banksy-mural-court-judge-beating-protester-removed-scrubbed-london-74bc9121340a73e6620a4898c4199c94
They used to hide the extraction from us but then we collectively begin to learn things such as: the Congolese people should not be poor because they have trillions of dollars in “untapped resources”
The old tactics of dehumanizing others *calling Native Americans “Savages” in the declaration of independence is embarrassingly still effective on us today.

Trump still has an overall approval rating of 41% ?
https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

Maybe America should have a real conversation because this party wants us back in the 1800’s and they are moving fast to install more loyalists. It doesn’t seem to matter how many laws get broken on the way because the courts can't act fast enough and the highest one has been curated for this moment.
Maybe there are enough of us citizens who want to go back, don’t realize our rights are like dominos or simply don’t pay attention.

It seems like the same people who thought being made to wear masks in public was fascism don’t mind if masked people without warrants take people off the street and put them into pop-up “detention centers”.    I’m against top-down power exerting itself on people, I am for people living with basic human dignity; further iterations should improve towards the latter.

I know TLDR


P.S.
I hope Greta and the flotilla makes it to Palestine without further incident.
 

[_Miracle]

Your question reminded me of Robert Reich's book (and documentary) Saving Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukLTBlFQ_-E&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21

The documentary is on Netflix

[Obulis]

The United States is considered a mature country, they can handle their issues and ensure a civil war never breaks out. It is possible that they can go into a war with another country, but If asked the possibility of a civil war, I'd say it is highly unlikely, they are not called the United States for no reason.

United States possesses gallant institutions designed to prevent internal collapse, but the idea that a civil war is "highly unlikely" may undermine serious and growing societal catastrophe.  History has it that even mature democracies are not immune to severe internal brouhaha when polarization or two main opinions magnifies. .  The name "United States" implies an ideal, yet not a guaranteed reality.  The possibility of prolonged political violence or fragmentation cannot be completely handled as unimportant, even as a full-scale war is still highly unlikely. Vigilance, is necessary not assumption.

[_Miracle]

The United States is considered a mature country, they can handle their issues and ensure a civil war never breaks out. It is possible that they can go into a war with another country, but If asked the possibility of a civil war, I'd say it is highly unlikely, they are not called the United States for no reason.

United States possesses gallant institutions designed to prevent internal collapse, but the idea that a civil war is "highly unlikely" may undermine serious and growing societal catastrophe.  History has it that even mature democracies are not immune to severe internal brouhaha when polarization or two main opinions magnifies. .  The name "United States" implies an ideal, yet not a guaranteed reality.  The possibility of prolonged political violence or fragmentation cannot be completely handled as unimportant, even as a full-scale war is still highly unlikely. Vigilance, is necessary not assumption.

Our institutions are being gutted from within right now by an administration that lives for expanding the divide in our country.
Governments throughout history do things to manufacture the consent of the governed to exchange our liberties for security/safety all the time.
9/11 in America got us ready to accept being surveilled.

For the last decades people have been learning just how much and what ways  --> money has infiltrated and corrupted our politics.

I think those top down power structures are fighting with all they have to: keep their influence, hoard more money and power AND exert more control over us people.

Trump pumps rhetoric regarding undocumented immigrants instead of creating paths for documentation or temp work permits.
BTW Migrant workers actually pay into our tax rolls and do not get Social Security benefits.

You can find hours of this rhetoric and Trump stoking up his magas with radical left
https://www.politico.com/video/2024/10/11/trump-deploys-harsh-anti-immigrant-rhetoric-as-election-day-nears-1462750
https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/donald-trump-on-illegal-immigrants-poisoning-the-blood-of-our-country/5098439   "poisoning the blood of our country" --where have we heard rhetoric like that before?
I.C.E.'s massive budget goes into effect in November with "Sanctuary Cities" at the top of their "to do" list.
With masked men on the streets of America taking people without warrants to "places unknown"
Now we give up due process and re-instate racial profiling.

What Trump is is doing is ---------------------------radical right wing sh!t ---right out of histories playbook.
His war on "the radical left" almost got started with an OwO last week  ---> this is how seriously unserious this moment in time is.
Wealthy interests buying up single family homes---wealth and inequality may become "radicalizing" all on its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDhck1sIFCM&ab_channel=SenatorSheldonWhitehouse  wealthy interests who continue climate denial (while insurance companies decide where to insure based on climate related information ;-))

P.S. Reopen the Epstein Case  ;-))

[tvbcof]

...
For the last decades people have been learning just how much and what ways  --> money has infiltrated and corrupted our politics.
...

Yeah.  These people are called 'groypers' more recently.

The Congenital Left has some has some flickering pattern recognitions from time to time, but are conditioned to suppress them via psychological techniques involving internal shame/guilt, social ejection fears, etc.

[_Miracle]

Trump Blames the Left for Charlie Kirk's Assassination as Rhetoric Escalates | The Daily Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7otv-HjT44&ab_channel=TheDailyShow  ---> "This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the violence we see today" -->Also Labubus
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/black-students-colleges-racist-threats
Again: black universities had to go on lockdowns

[montaga]

I think in this case it would split into more than 2 pieces. It would be like a domino effect, Europe, Russia, China........

[_Miracle]

I think in this case it would split into more than 2 pieces. It would be like a domino effect, Europe, Russia, China........

Just to be clear where I stand:
I consider MTG and the Trump Administration to be far right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RdZRORfyY&ab_channel=TheYoungTurks   a couple years ago MTG ad
She's radical and CK even now that his social media is being scrubbed and sanitized was divisive.

The splinters of illiberal leftists and antifascist alt right seem hyper fueled by our online connectedness, it would be fascinating if it wasn't our current reality and no doubt there will be study.

It could be that the world is waking up to the real oppression of top down power left unchecked which has made us question many other of the power structures is built upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RdZRORfyY&ab_channel=TheYoungTurks


Google:
The term "extinction burst of the patriarchy" refers to the concept that as the patriarchal system declines, it will likely exhibit an increase in its most extreme and violent behaviors in a desperate attempt to regain control before its eventual fall. Borrowed from behavioral psychology, an extinction burst is a temporary escalation of behavior that occurs when a habit or stimulus that was once reinforced is no longer received. In the context of the patriarchy, this manifests as intensified attacks on reproductive rights, resistance to gender equality, and the rise of misogynistic movements like incels, all serving as a final, desperate "thrash" of a dying system. 
 
The phrase "extinction burst of capitalism" is not a formal, recognized economic theory, but a metaphorical concept gaining traction in social commentary. It applies the psychological principle of an "extinction burst" to the global economic system, suggesting that as capitalism faces fundamental challenges, it will intensify its most destructive behaviors in a final, aggressive surge before a major societal shift.

An "extinction burst of imperialism" is a non-academic political metaphor that applies a behavioral psychology concept to the political decline of imperial powers. It suggests that as imperialism loses its power and influence, it may first intensify its aggressive, dominating, and destructive behaviors as a last-ditch effort to maintain control before its eventual collapse.


This is a clear pattern observed in past societal shifts. It is interesting how some of the wealthy elites (elon musk) keeps talking about the "radical left". As if they are center?


I guess these are my leanings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUNg_we_ez8&ab_channel=PissedMagistus

https://www.youtube.com/GarysEconomics
 

[pooya87]

What's interesting is that at this time that US is polarized and the unrest keeps growing with protests against the regime, Trump is not only becoming a bigger dictator back home (eg. he just ordered shutting down of any outlet that posts anything "negative" about him like the shut down of the popular show with Jimmy Kimmel) while still claiming they have "freedom of speech"! but also he is isolating United States as I predicted last year before the elections. For example this just came out showing the way emperor-wannabe of America is treating the dictator of England as Trump walks with the guard and makes the King Charles walk behind them like a servant

[bitwalhr]

What's interesting is that at this time that US is polarized and the unrest keeps growing with protests against the regime, Trump is not only becoming a bigger dictator back home (eg. he just ordered shutting down of any outlet that posts anything "negative" about him like the shut down of the popular show with Jimmy Kimmel) while still claiming they have "freedom of speech"! but also he is isolating United States as I predicted last year before the elections. For example this just came out showing the way emperor-wannabe of America is treating the dictator of England as Trump walks with the guard and makes the King Charles walk behind them like a servant

Strict ban on media about internal issues and having not good way of talk and ending chaos which increasing day by day mean now end is already started like we have in many other countries those ended in many due to dictatorship like this which is currently under Trump regime.

He is acting like Mikhail Gorbachev as he was last leader of USSR and then world have Russia same going to happen because Trump is killing peoples for nothing instead of talking with them about issues which can settle through table talk things like these never exist for long time there is no freedom of speech it's just for few peoples those are favorite and doing which is helpful for having control.

Trump could be national shame for the USA due to his tactics which are never been happened in past after watching his many clips now I am understanding he is using tactics like WWE where they were doing this all for money and here just for increasing popularity, but it's going worse.

[Agbamoni]

What's interesting is that at this time that US is polarized and the unrest keeps growing with protests against the regime, Trump is not only becoming a bigger dictator back home (eg. he just ordered shutting down of any outlet that posts anything "negative" about him like the shut down of the popular show with Jimmy Kimmel) while still claiming they have "freedom of speech"! but also he is isolating United States as I predicted last year before the elections. For example this just came out showing the way emperor-wannabe of America is treating the dictator of England as Trump walks with the guard and makes the King Charles walk behind them like a servant

He is rather called an "Authoritarian figure" since he exerts control in the US and other countries without necessarily holding the title of a dictator.
If there was no democracy, Trump will be fuming under authoritarian power as a dictator. His actions against the press and popular tv shows obviously prevent freedom of speech. And where there is no freedom of speech brings fear of censorship and propaganda.

[Franklyn-wood]

What's interesting is that at this time that US is polarized and the unrest keeps growing with protests against the regime, Trump is not only becoming a bigger dictator back home (eg. he just ordered shutting down of any outlet that posts anything "negative" about him like the shut down of the popular show with Jimmy Kimmel) while still claiming they have "freedom of speech"! but also he is isolating United States as I predicted last year before the elections.
 For example this just came out showing the way emperor-wannabe of America is treating the dictator of England as Trump walks with the guard and makes the King Charles walk behind them like a servant

Trump likes showing the world that he's in charge especially in another man's land...this is hilarious!

[_Miracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv48AUuj120  <------ Florida Open Carry the sheriff makes a point that I agree with

As a woman I never opted for open carry even when in states that allow it. On top of not wanting to be the 1st target taken out, someone having the idea (whether true or not) that they could take it from me struck me as a problem I didn't want to have.

I don't think the civil unrest is just in America. There seem to be many protests happening around the world regarding general oppression of governments against their people.
I hope that people realize where the true threats to our liberties are coming from sooner than later.


https://www.npr.org/2025/09/27/nx-s1-5555381/trump-sending-troops-portland
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cddmn6ge6e2o

[aoluain]

What's interesting is that at this time that US is polarized and the unrest keeps growing with protests against the regime, Trump is not only becoming a bigger dictator back home (eg. he just ordered shutting down of any outlet that posts anything "negative" about him like the shut down of the popular show with Jimmy Kimmel) while still claiming they have "freedom of speech"! but also he is isolating United States as I predicted last year before the elections. For example this just came out showing the way emperor-wannabe of America is treating the dictator of England as Trump walks with the guard and makes the King Charles walk behind them like a servant

Totally breaking from protocol and I dont have any love for royalty of any kind.
Trump was/is either a total buffoon or knew/knows exactly what he is doing,
either way he is a very divisive or polarising figure whether you like or loath him.

Others have mentioned in this thread that Americans are a very well educated population
and so a civil war wouldnt happen. I dont agree, if you are driven to demonstrate for or against
government policies combined with more extreme views it definitely leads down
the road to at least more and more civil unrest, next step mass violent civil unrest
and anything could happen from there.

Its like a pressure cooker with more and more volatile ingredients being added like

the countries finances
crime and the drug problem
racial tensions and immigration.

[_Miracle]

Here it is...
The most mainstream article as possible
Our "dear leader" has been trying to wage war on us people since he lost the 2020 election and now here it is ;-)
It got a jump start Jan 6, 2021, a little push when he pardoned the insurrectionists, and a boost with his ICE rebranding.
A recent poll has 40% Approval against 55% Disapproving with 27% of our citizens "strongly" approving his presidency.

I am not one of those who approve and I will not quietly allow our government to disappear people off of our streets.

Elon and Trump's  wars against wokeism have been waged (2 of the wealthiest, thin skinned, pale males in the world today) 


Trump calls for using US cities as 'training ground' for armed forces in unusual speech to generals 9/30/25
https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-hegseth-set-meet-hundreds-040954126.html

QUANTICO, Va. (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday proposed using American cities as training grounds for the armed forces, with U.S. military might being deployed against what he described as the "invasion from within."

Addressing an audience of military brass abruptly summoned to Virginia, Donald Trump outlined a muscular and at times norm-shattering view of the military's role in domestic affairs. He was joined by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who declared an end to “woke” culture and announced new directives for troops that include “gender-neutral” or “male-level” standards for physical fitness.

The dual messages underscored the Trump administration's efforts not only to reshape contemporary Pentagon culture but enlist military resources for the president's priorities and in everyday American civic life, including by quelling unrest and violent crime on city streets.

“We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military,” Trump said. He noted at another point: “We’re under invasion from within. No different than a foreign enemy but more difficult in many ways because they don’t wear uniforms.”

Hegseth called hundreds of military leaders and their top advisers from around the world to the Marine Corps base in Quantico without publicly revealing the reason. His address largely focused on his own long-used talking points that painted a picture of a military that has been hamstrung by “woke” policies, and he said military leaders should “do the honorable thing and resign” if they don’t like his new approach.

Though meetings between military brass and civilian leaders are nothing new, this gathering had fueled intense speculation about its purpose given the haste with which it was called and the mystery surrounding it. The fact that admirals and generals from conflict zones were summoned for a lecture on race and gender in the military showed the extent to which the country’s culture wars have become a front-and-center agenda item for Hegseth’s Pentagon, even at a time of broad national security concerns across the globe.

‘We will not be politically correct’

Trump is used to boisterous crowds of supporters who laugh at his jokes and applaud his boasts during his speeches. But he wasn't getting that kind of soundtrack from the military leaders in attendance.

In keeping with the nonpartisan tradition of the armed services, the military leaders sat mostly stone-faced through Trump’s politicized remarks, a contrast from when rank-and-file soldiers cheered during Trump’s speech at Fort Bragg this summer.

During his nearly hourlong speech, Hegseth said the U.S. military has promoted too many leaders for the wrong reasons based on race, gender quotas and “historic firsts.”

“The era of politically correct, overly sensitive don’t-hurt-anyone’s-feelings leadership ends right now at every level,” Hegseth said.

That was echoed by Trump, who said “the purposes of America military is not to protect anyone’s feelings. It’s to protect our republic.″

″We will not be politically correct when it comes to defending American freedom,” Trump said. “And we will be a fighting and winning machine.”

Sen. Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, called the meeting “an expensive, dangerous dereliction of leadership" by the Trump administration.

“Even more troubling was Mr. Hegseth’s ultimatum to America’s senior officers: conform to his political worldview or step aside," Reed said in a statement. "That demand is profoundly dangerous. It signals that partisan loyalty matters more than capability, judgment, or service to the Constitution, undermining the principle of a professional, nonpartisan military.”

Loosening disciplinary rules


Hegseth also said he is loosening disciplinary rules and weakening hazing protections, putting a heavy focus on removing many of the guardrails the military had put in place after numerous scandals and investigations

He said he was ordering a review of “the department’s definitions of so-called toxic leadership, bullying and hazing to empower leaders to enforce standards without fear of retribution or second guessing.”

[Bigjoe158]

USA will not go into civil war within themselves, because of gun violence and inflation. These two factors have been there since  long time ago. USA is a civilized country and they know that so many countries look up to them. Gun violence has been there and if the law catches up with any one, that person will face it. Inflation is not a new thing to them because it will surely be contained in due time. All over the world, inflation had rampaged their economy. USA is a world power and will not want to surrender that power. If they go to war within them,their perceived enemies will take advantage of it and will not be a good one. So civil war in USA will not happen any time soon. What is playing out is politics, probably Trump's policies are not favouring some top men over there and they want him out by all means.

[epsi1on]

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[yixichloro2xx]

The media and politicians are creating a lot of division and hatred of others. Mental health issues aren’t taken seriously, people have easy access to guns, and violence committed by the U.S. government and its allies is always being glorified. School shootings are so common that you get desensitized. Tensions will only continue to escalate in this environment.

I don’t think it will reach the point of civil war. We will instead see more repression and limitations on civil liberties. They will look for more excuses to deplatform, debank, and disappear anyone who is a dissident of the current regime. This will make it harder to organize on a large scale and we will likely only see isolated incidents from time to time.

Even if the situation feels unstable, you are probably right that a full civil war is unlikely. What usually happens in times like this is not open conflict but quiet control, governments tighten surveillance, restrict speech, and make it harder for people to resist collectively. Perhaps that’s why censorship, deplatforming, and financial restrictions are becoming the preferred tools, because they weaken opposition without firing a shot. Of course isolated violence will still happen, but the bigger concern is how normal people slowly adapt to losing freedoms one step at a time. History shows repression rarely arrives all at once but  it usually creeps in until what was once unacceptable feels ordinary.