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The first to vote here. I think Fury will win. I just don't think Usyk can take Fury's size and power for 12 rounds. Moreover, Fury can jab. And he also normally extends his arms to keep his opponent at bay when there's an attack coming. He could definitely use his reach advantage for this.
Usyk is a great boxer, no doubt about it. But Fury simply belongs to another level, and probably size as well. The certain thing is that Usyk cannot finish Fury. So the only way for him to defeat Fury is to outpoint him. That could happen, of course. But what is hard to happen is for Usyk to absorb all the powerful blows of his heavy-handed giant opponent for 12 rounds.
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Usyks did a great job defending his belt against Anthony Joshua but I doubt that he'll be able to go against Fury who is also as aggressive as he is. Usyks is good and shows very good ability on the ring, but Fury is better to me as he can counter match Usyks attacks with same speed and power, plus he will not be as rigid, unresponsive and unaggressive as AJ was. Fury had this to say after Joshua fight, clearly he wants Usyk to put it all on the line with some good money as motivation for him. “I've just seen Joshua lose for the second time to Usyk – out of his depth.
“However, England has been relieved of its belts. Yet again, as usual.
“There is a remedy and a solution that I can suggest. If you want those belts back then send in the Gypsy barbarian of England. Come on!
“Send me in. I will relieve the Ukrainian dosser of his belts like I did the last Ukrainian dosser.
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I also voted for Fury to win the unification fight. Of course Usyk will be bring something that maybe Fury hasn't face before, he is a technical boxer and uses a lot of movement.
But I think Fury will rely on his advantage, his height and length and his ring IQ to solved Usyk and maybe this fight will go to distance with a MD or SD win for Tyson Fury.
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Voted for Fury as i think Usyk is no match to Fury's boxing style. Joshua's confidence or shall we say style is not made for Usyk's quickness and relentless throwing of bombs. Have seen a video of Fury and he said that he is ready to face Usyk but it would be expensive . money grabs for him, different approach with that of Mayweather to sell the fight.
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August 21, 2022, 01:28:19 PM |
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-skip- Eventually that unification fight is going to happen therefore who do you think will win: Fury or Usyk
On the one hand, I would say that Fury will win, because if the difference in weight between Usyk and Joshua is approximately 10 kilograms, then between Usyk and Fury it is already more than 20 and this looks like a critical advantage. On the other hand, if you remember how many hits Fury missed from Wilder (and in fact won only due to a stronger head), then I would say that if Usyk is fast and Fury cannot knock him out, then Usyk will win on points. In any case, I would love to watch this fight.
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What happened to Tyson Fury wanting an exhibition fight with UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou?
Usyk pushes a high pace with his elusive head movement, angles and defense. But I think Tyson Fury is too big, has too much reach and is too savvy a boxer to have trouble landing punches on Usyk the way that Anthony Joshua did. Fury throws more punches per round than Joshua. Inactivity was one of Joshua's biggest failings. AJ took too many rounds off as rest rounds. He tired quickly. Even though he only threw around 10 punches in some rounds. Usyk will have a harder time outworking Fury to win on points.
Its interesting to see modern day heavyweight boxers throw low volumes of punches. The athleticism and endurance of boxers appears to have significantly declined. When Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and the other greats were still competing, boxing was a much more action packed and exciting sport.
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The boxing community will ask and probably demand this, Joshua and Wilder are out of the picture for good and they are two men standing for the claim of the greatest heavyweight champion of this generation, I just hope there will be no further delay just like what happened between Wilder and Joshua and between Joshua and Fury.
There's huge money waiting for both fighters and of course the legacy, right now Usyk is still enjoying his victory but hopefully, he will announce his eagerness to fight Fury, so talks can begin, I don't want to speculate about who will beat who until they both agree even in talks.
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The first to vote here. I think Fury will win There are 6 votes in the poll right now and all 6 have voted for Fury to win Usyks did a great job defending his belt against Anthony Joshua but I doubt that he'll be able to go against Fury who is also as aggressive as he is Fury will take the fight on from the first round and not take anything for granted but eventually he should win because as great a fighter Usyk is he will be up against Fury who is probably going to go for a KO or TKO rather than go 12 rounds and try to win on a points decision. I also voted for Fury to win the unification fight. Of course Usyk will be bring something that maybe Fury hasn't face before, he is a technical boxer and uses a lot of movement.
But I think Fury will rely on his advantage, his height and length and his ring IQ to solved Usyk and maybe this fight will go to distance with a MD or SD win for Tyson Fury. Fury will certainly be trying to lean on Usyk trying to weaken him the way he roughed up Wilder but Usyk hardly let Joshua lean on him because he was fluid. Fury will have a lot of reach advantage and will use that jab to much better use than Joshua did over the course of their two fights.
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I also voted for Fury to win the unification fight. Of course Usyk will be bring something that maybe Fury hasn't face before, he is a technical boxer and uses a lot of movement.
But I think Fury will rely on his advantage, his height and length and his ring IQ to solved Usyk and maybe this fight will go to distance with a MD or SD win for Tyson Fury. Fury will certainly be trying to lean on Usyk trying to weaken him the way he roughed up Wilder but Usyk hardly let Joshua lean on him because he was fluid. Fury will have a lot of reach advantage and will use that jab to much better use than Joshua did over the course of their two fights. Although if I may add, this might be the first time that we might see Joshua having his match in terms of movement and with fast hands. But then again, that reach and power belongs to Fury and I think he will still rely on that kind of tactics, maybe testing on how Usyk will respond if he roughs him up, putting all his weight on him in the corner . And then Fury's jab will also play a key role. He has fast hands and for sure he can hit Usyk more than Joshua did on their two fights.
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I'll be monitoring the poll it's good that we have a poll, despite Usyk beating Joshua for the second time I also don't think he will have a clear advantage over Fury, actually, on the contrary, Fury will have a huge and clear advantage against Usyk, we cannot compare Joshua to Fury, Joshua is a stiff boxer and that's how Usyk exploited it, Fury is very fluid, he can give double jab and very good at counter-punching, Usyk will have to double his effort, this is a battle of two technical fighters who don't rely on sheer power but loves to break down their opponents until chopping them when it's ripe.
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We all know Usyk can take a punch because he withstood what Joshua threw at him and did not panic but I we all also know that Fury is a different fighter altogether and not only will he throw more punches than Joshua, many of those punches will land and cause problems for Usyk. Without a doubt the Fury jab will play a significant part in the fight simply because that will be his chosen technique to keep Usyk at a distance while he prepares to throw those right hooks and uppercuts. He will definitely land more punches on Usyk than Joshua did. Although if I may add, this might be the first time that we might see Joshua having his match in terms of movement and with fast hands. But then again, that reach and power belongs to Fury and I think he will still rely on that kind of tactics, maybe testing on how Usyk will respond if he roughs him up, putting all his weight on him in the corner . And then Fury's jab will also play a key role. He has fast hands and for sure he can hit Usyk more than Joshua did on their two fights.
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Voted for Fury as i think Usyk is no match to Fury's boxing style. Joshua's confidence or shall we say style is not made for Usyk's quickness and relentless throwing of bombs. Have seen a video of Fury and he said that he is ready to face Usyk but it would be expensive . money grabs for him, different approach with that of Mayweather to sell the fight. if they will indeed see huge payout for this match, their promoters will schedule this as soon as possible. remember, many times money matters when it comes to these respective promoters. and of course the purse split among their boxers. voted for fury here as well. and based from the poll, users here are rooting for fury. but we can never be sure as upsets in boxing always happen.
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If Joshua managed to have beaten Usyk in the rematch he could have entered the ring to meet Fury in an all British unification fight that would have brought in unbelievable wealth for him but instead it is Usyk that will receive the fee. You are right upsets can happen in sport but Fury will need to mess up badly in order for Usyk to win and I just do not see it happening. I think Fury will go in to the ring with the intention it will be his swansong therefore he will be confident and he will win. if they will indeed see huge payout for this match, their promoters will schedule this as soon as possible. remember, many times money matters when it comes to these respective promoters. and of course the purse split among their boxers. voted for fury here as well. and based from the poll, users here are rooting for fury. but we can never be sure as upsets in boxing always happen.
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August 22, 2022, 01:03:04 AM |
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Sounded like the fight is on already when Usyk calls Tyson after his AJ fight. And then right after it, Fury also criticized both AJ and Usyk for being sh**. Heavy guys like them are pretty much slow but Usyk is a lot faster and can work in volume than Fury though, which I think will be the characteristic that will make him winner against Tyson.
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Sounded like the fight is on already when Usyk calls Tyson after his AJ fight. And then right after it, Fury also criticized both AJ and Usyk for being sh**. Heavy guys like them are pretty much slow but Usyk is a lot faster and can work in volume than Fury though, which I think will be the characteristic that will make him winner against Tyson. It's hard to see who will have the upperhand as far as the hand speed because both are very agile and too quick hands for a heavyweight. But I would say that natural and bigger HW will have the advantage and that is Fury. Remember that Usyk is a natural CW and that is why he seems to be very "light" for a HW boxer. But Fury is a freak of nature, at his height and weight, he is naturally gifted boxer and had a power in both hands. So for me, maybe Usyk can stay with Fury early, but Fury can match his speed and will eventually caught Usyk a couple of times for a decision win.
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If Joshua managed to have beaten Usyk in the rematch he could have entered the ring to meet Fury in an all British unification fight that would have brought in unbelievable wealth for him but instead it is Usyk that will receive the fee.
Yes, at least that is what we are expecting, an all British showdown in the Heavyweight division, sold out O2 arena and Brits are raving about it. Unfortunately, even if Joshua has change his corner and getting a US trainer in Robert Garcia, he still lost to a good boxer in Usyk. You are right upsets can happen in sport but Fury will need to mess up badly in order for Usyk to win and I just do not see it happening. I think Fury will go in to the ring with the intention it will be his swansong therefore he will be confident and he will win. if they will indeed see huge payout for this match, their promoters will schedule this as soon as possible. remember, many times money matters when it comes to these respective promoters. and of course the purse split among their boxers. voted for fury here as well. and based from the poll, users here are rooting for fury. but we can never be sure as upsets in boxing always happen.
And everything is still in the hands of Fury, for sure he will be the A-side of this fight. And we have been saying that Usyk is a technical boxer, but there is none that we can compare at this division with Fury. And I agree that this could be Fury's swansong fight, even greater than his Wilder victories.
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I was hoping for more votes by now but there are 12 votes in the poll:
Fury to win: 11 Usyk to win: 1
At the moment it is clear who the forum members think will win the fight. 91% of the voters are going for a Fury win and that view is probably shared by most people associated with the sport of boxing as well as commentators and fans.
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August 22, 2022, 12:24:22 PM |
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I was hoping for more votes by now but there are 12 votes in the poll:
Fury to win: 11 Usyk to win: 1
At the moment it is clear who the forum members think will win the fight. 91% of the voters are going for a Fury win and that view is probably shared by most people associated with the sport of boxing as well as commentators and fans.
I added my vote for Usyk I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time
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I added my vote for Usyk I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win? Although I'm rooting for Usyk, but objectively, Fury has a better chance of winning, if the fight takes place at all, of course, he is also hardy and fast as Usyk, besides, he has a powerful knockout punch. Among other things, the "Gypsy King" does not have too much of a break in order to lose shape, so if the fight takes place, I think it will be the greatest event in boxing and may delay the departure from boxing of both Fury and Usyk a little. Having a favourite is a good thing but in practical terms usually people can make a distinction between their favourite and the probable winner. I like Fury and Usyk but I think Fury will win based on what both of them are bringing in to the ring.
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