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Bivol will have a good chance to win this fight in my opinion. And if he does, his manager will look at what fight is best for him financially. And it seems that it will be Canelo, in my opinion.
The unification fight with Beterbiev may have to wait, yes they are the two best boxers of the division, and they need to face each other. But Arum will protect Beterbiev and so he will let him face Canelo to be soften up. And if my memory serves me right. Beterbiev is injured.
There is an issue for Bivol, if he decides for a rematch against Canelo. Canelo would insist that the match needs to take place within the United States. And if that happens, it will be near impossible for Bivol to receive any payments or share from the PPV buys (since he is a Russian citizen). Therefore I am not sure how excited will be Bivol for a fight against Canelo. Artur Beterbiev on the other hand is a Canadian citizen, and may agree for a fight in Saudi Arabia or some of the other neutral countries. The same with Gilberto Ramírez as well. But I guess they should have at least made some efforts by now on how they can get the payment to Bivol? Everyone wanted to see his fight, the demand is there to held the fight in the US because of Canelo's followers and fans. But both side or at least Bivols' manager should have a plan outwit or bypass it. They can't remove Bivol at this point, he is other champion in LHW division. Ramirez is still the outsider unless be beat Bivol in their fight. And if ever he beats him, Canelo already insisted that he won't face Mexican next.
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October 06, 2022, 01:09:39 AM |
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Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.
If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.
It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money. There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere.
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October 06, 2022, 07:01:11 AM |
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Moneywise, Bivol would try to make Canelo activate the rematch clause if he wins against Zurdo. And it is also dangerous for Bivol to pursue a unification fight with Beterbiev because he is probably the underdog despite the 3-belt champ's age. And Canelo will never be interested to fight a beltless Bivol. But these fighters from the former Soviet Union are more glory hunters and money only comes second. Beterbiev and Bivol's team might want them to fight Canelo and Yarde respectively for money purposes but we heard these 2 champions during interviews on who they want. Both Beterbiev and Bivol said they want to face each other because they want to become undisputed.
I don't see Bob Arum protecting Beterbiev to face Bivol here knowing his fighter is the A side and probably the slight favorite but only due to Beterbiev's age. Beterbiev is a beast, he would've re-arranged Canelo's face and body if they were the ones fighting. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I believe Beterbiev is the last one to knockdown and hurt our current heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk. And we know Usyk is another legend in the making. Bivol and Beterbiev need to fight each other if they want to enter the Hall of Fame. But DAZN and Matchroom should allow Bob Arum and ESPN to promote and televise the fight to turn this into a reality. As you said, Bivol is not prioritizing Canelo and he won't be if he will come out successful in his fight against Zurdo Ramirez as a fight against Canelo is just a pure money fight with no glory to make. He already proved his talent against the undisputed boxer and upsets Canelo, that said, a rematch from Canelo's camp is the least of things he thinks of. Canelo have two choices if Bivol turns out to be the winner in his upcoming fight, first is that he has to wait because chances are high that Bivol will pursue Beterbiev first and second is to forget having a rematch because there's also a high chance that he will have the same result. And there's no roadblock for an undisputed fight in LHW because Bob Arum openly said that he will allow Beterbiev to fight after his title defense. That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees. Canelo still has a rematch clause but at light-heavyweight. I believe Canelo loves challenges too especially since he is nearing his mid-30s soon. Maybe he can tell Hearn and DAZN to let Bivol fight Beterbiev at Top Rank and ESPN. Then he fights the winner.
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October 06, 2022, 07:16:12 AM |
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This will be a great fight tbh because both of them have different techniques to handle their opponents based on their previous fights . And that's why I'm not surprised why they own a great records in boxing history, wherein surely this will be a tough fight for both sides especially for the undefeated that needs to keep his belt and to maintain the good record.
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October 06, 2022, 08:43:05 AM |
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Moneywise, Bivol would try to make Canelo activate the rematch clause if he wins against Zurdo. And it is also dangerous for Bivol to pursue a unification fight with Beterbiev because he is probably the underdog despite the 3-belt champ's age. And Canelo will never be interested to fight a beltless Bivol. But these fighters from the former Soviet Union are more glory hunters and money only comes second. Beterbiev and Bivol's team might want them to fight Canelo and Yarde respectively for money purposes but we heard these 2 champions during interviews on who they want. Both Beterbiev and Bivol said they want to face each other because they want to become undisputed.
I don't see Bob Arum protecting Beterbiev to face Bivol here knowing his fighter is the A side and probably the slight favorite but only due to Beterbiev's age. Beterbiev is a beast, he would've re-arranged Canelo's face and body if they were the ones fighting. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I believe Beterbiev is the last one to knockdown and hurt our current heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk. And we know Usyk is another legend in the making. Bivol and Beterbiev need to fight each other if they want to enter the Hall of Fame. But DAZN and Matchroom should allow Bob Arum and ESPN to promote and televise the fight to turn this into a reality. As you said, Bivol is not prioritizing Canelo and he won't be if he will come out successful in his fight against Zurdo Ramirez as a fight against Canelo is just a pure money fight with no glory to make. He already proved his talent against the undisputed boxer and upsets Canelo, that said, a rematch from Canelo's camp is the least of things he thinks of. Canelo have two choices if Bivol turns out to be the winner in his upcoming fight, first is that he has to wait because chances are high that Bivol will pursue Beterbiev first and second is to forget having a rematch because there's also a high chance that he will have the same result. And there's no roadblock for an undisputed fight in LHW because Bob Arum openly said that he will allow Beterbiev to fight after his title defense. That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees. Canelo still has a rematch clause but at light-heavyweight. I believe Canelo loves challenges too especially since he is nearing his mid-30s soon. Maybe he can tell Hearn and DAZN to let Bivol fight Beterbiev at Top Rank and ESPN. Then he fights the winner. If I'm not mistaken, his trilogy fight with Canelo is the last fight that he had with Hearn and DAZN? And so if he wanted to fight Bivol next then he either sign a new deal or totally become free as a fighter and handle his own promotion. So it might be easy for him to go to other division as well and get that 5th weight title that he wanted to be the first Mexican to do that. But we will see if he is willing to sign with Hearn and DAZN since they pay him good money.
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October 06, 2022, 09:42:39 AM |
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That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees.
But if the fight will happen at super middleweight, Canelo would risk all of his belts and Bivol actually become a challenger here. It doesn't make Canelo gain anything if he win against Bivol, so it doesn't make any sense for Canelo fight on super middleweight. This will be a great fight tbh because both of them have different techniques to handle their opponents based on their previous fights . And that's why I'm not surprised why they own a great records in boxing history, wherein surely this will be a tough fight for both sides especially for the undefeated that needs to keep his belt and to maintain the good record.
Yeah both of them have difference stance, Bivol is an orthodox style (right handed) while Ramirez is southpaw style (left handed). In theory southpaw is better than orthodox since it's more flexible. But Bivol's left hand is strong too and he mostly combine left jab-hook then he will punch with his right hand.
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October 06, 2022, 10:50:40 AM |
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This will be a great fight tbh because both of them have different techniques to handle their opponents based on their previous fights . And that's why I'm not surprised why they own a great records in boxing history, wherein surely this will be a tough fight for both sides especially for the undefeated that needs to keep his belt and to maintain the good record.
Great fight in paper, but I would still give it to Bivol 1. Ramirez record is 0 losses, but if you just check the quality of the boxers that he has face, I think Bivol has better record 2. Bivol technique is far more superior, he has beaten Canelo already, so it just shows that he is not afraid to face anyone and execute his gameplan to win fights. So this is not going to be a 50:50 fight in my book, it's either Bivol by KO or UD, in my opinion.
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October 06, 2022, 12:36:33 PM |
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This will be a great fight tbh because both of them have different techniques to handle their opponents based on their previous fights . And that's why I'm not surprised why they own a great records in boxing history, wherein surely this will be a tough fight for both sides especially for the undefeated that needs to keep his belt and to maintain the good record.
Great fight in paper, but I would still give it to Bivol 1. Ramirez record is 0 losses, but if you just check the quality of the boxers that he has face, I think Bivol has better record 2. Bivol technique is far more superior, he has beaten Canelo already, so it just shows that he is not afraid to face anyone and execute his gameplan to win fights. So this is not going to be a 50:50 fight in my book, it's either Bivol by KO or UD, in my opinion. After beating Canelo, the confidence of Bivol's fan is really high, the winning chance is greater compared to his opponent. Ramirez stat in papers gives him that credit that he's a decent fighter as well, but likewise the quality of his fight might be different from what Bivol's achievements, we will be able to witness them fighting and after the fight we will all be witness who will dominate and after the fight, we can judge and conclude who's the best fighter between the two.
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Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer.
As long as it will contribute to pressuring Russia, they will just do whatever it takes. They should not really look into Bivol being a Russian or to any athletes but since the Russian President is just also doing what he wants whatever it takes, it affects their athletes. But I'm sure it's not that Bivol is really receiving bad treatment most of them. He will get what he deserves to get. The world is not that harsh to Russian athletes. With regard to Bivol and with everything that has to do with the problem of Russia and Ukraine, I think that the best thing is that the fights take place, Bivol I think he was the only Russian athlete who was allowed to participate in a fight when all the Russian athletes They have them betated, just like what happened in the soccer world cup, so I think that Bivol and the boxing federation should not allow him to be paid to the authorities by banks, but I think that now there are many options, I don't know if the boxers They can demand payment in Bitcoin or other means so that they do not have any retention problems, of course this is an option that I say, but I imagine that they will have obviously considered it. Bivol will have a good chance to win this fight in my opinion. And if he does, his manager will look at what fight is best for him financially. And it seems that it will be Canelo, in my opinion.
The unification fight with Beterbiev may have to wait, yes they are the two best boxers of the division, and they need to face each other. But Arum will protect Beterbiev and so he will let him face Canelo to be soften up. And if my memory serves me right. Beterbiev is injured.
There is an issue for Bivol, if he decides for a rematch against Canelo. Canelo would insist that the match needs to take place within the United States. And if that happens, it will be near impossible for Bivol to receive any payments or share from the PPV buys (since he is a Russian citizen). Therefore I am not sure how excited will be Bivol for a fight against Canelo. Artur Beterbiev on the other hand is a Canadian citizen, and may agree for a fight in Saudi Arabia or some of the other neutral countries. The same with Gilberto Ramírez as well. But I guess they should have at least made some efforts by now on how they can get the payment to Bivol? Everyone wanted to see his fight, the demand is there to held the fight in the US because of Canelo's followers and fans. But both side or at least Bivols' manager should have a plan outwit or bypass it. They can't remove Bivol at this point, he is other champion in LHW division. Ramirez is still the outsider unless be beat Bivol in their fight. And if ever he beats him, Canelo already insisted that he won't face Mexican next. If the payment problem escalates, I think that both the sponsors and the boxing federation themselves will look very bad, they should put in context the fastest and safest option, that they pay Bivol in Bitcoin, or in any other means of payment, but if they decide to do it in the USA and that their main obstacle is that, it will be seen as something very ridiculous and that would be a scandal for everyone, I think everyone would come out very badly, I think Bivol, if I remember correctly, does not want to fight against Canelo, what I am not sure is if it is for that reason, but as I said before, it would be very bad if that was the impediment.
This Zurdo vs Bivol fight promises, and many informations appear: 30 days to go for Bivol-Ramirez ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7UE9xeS.png&t=665&c=V3zjTCTv4agDyQ) Today there are 30 days left for the mandatory fight of the pioneer body and both fighters are in full training camp. Bivol arrived in Abu Dhabi a few days ago to fulfill the final part of his preparation.
The monarch showed some photos on his social networks that show how this training phase is going and how eager he is to step into the ring for this great fight. Source: https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/30-days-to-go-for-bivol-ramirezThings are heating up, and fans are increasingly wanting to know more about the preparations, this fight really promises, the bets will be very high.
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Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.
If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.
It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money. There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere. All will be updated after these upcoming fight, for now we can just speculate and give our opinions to whoever challenger Bivol will face, as for your information still the money from that last fight against Canelo still not being transferred as whole, hopefully Bivol and his camp will be able to enjoy the money. It's a risk that he takes accepting the challenge against Canelo and he is the underdog and regards to the profits, Canelo and his camp already consuming all those dollars that they've taken even they lose the fight. And regards to possibilities, I agree better for Bivol's camp to make an assurance that if ever they will accept his next challenger, they will be assured not to have any issue with the payment.
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~~~ And regards to possibilities, I agree better for Bivol's camp to make an assurance that if ever they will accept his next challenger, they will be assured not to have any issue with the payment.
There can be no such assurances if the match takes place in the United States. Some of the users are even suggesting payments using Bitcoin, but that is also not possible. All modes of payments are prohibited from the United States towards Russian citizens, and that includes cryptocurrency as well. Only remaining option is to stage the match outside the United States and the European Union, for which Canelo would disagree. So for the foreseeable future, we can say that a match between Canelo and Bivol will not take place.
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That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees.
But if the fight will happen at super middleweight, Canelo would risk all of his belts and Bivol actually become a challenger here. It doesn't make Canelo gain anything if he win against Bivol, so it doesn't make any sense for Canelo fight on super middleweight. Well, Canelo will defend his undisputed belts at super-middleweight anyways. If he feels better at super-middleweight than at light-heavyweight then he should try to convince Bivol to let the rematch happen at 168. Maybe Bivol will be less robust and his punches are not that strong at 168. And Canelo mentioned that getting his revenge on Bivol is very very important to him. Here's what Canelo said: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN2BUIMN.jpg&t=665&c=nCZy3ETzlHWaWw) If I'm not mistaken, his trilogy fight with Canelo is the last fight that he had with Hearn and DAZN?
And so if he wanted to fight Bivol next then he either sign a new deal or totally become free as a fighter and handle his own promotion. So it might be easy for him to go to other division as well and get that 5th weight title that he wanted to be the first Mexican to do that.
But we will see if he is willing to sign with Hearn and DAZN since they pay him good money. Yes, you are right. It was a 2 fight deal with Matchroom and DAZN. Although ever since HBO left boxing, Canelo is always with DAZN already. Except when Canelo fought at Showtime in order to unify his WBA, WBC, and WBO titles against PBC's former IBF champion Caleb Plant. Canelo owns Canelo Promotions and is very active in Mexico. But the big promotions like Top Rank, Matchroom, Golden Boy, and PBC (hiding under a managerial license) are the ones promoting the big fights in the biggest stage of boxing. Canelo loves DAZN but I won't be surprised if he will temporarily fight at the other networks soon knowing there's only Bivol/Ramirez and Andrade left for him. Showtime/Fox has Benavidez and Charlo while ESPN has Beterbiev.
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^^ Yes, Canelo has a good management team lead by Eddy Reynoso. So for sure he will look for the best interest of his client and see what the future will bring for him, whether to stay at 168 lbs or move up to 175 lbs and face Beterviev or Bivol or go to CW at 190 lbs and get his next belt. Or just be a free agent so that he can fight anyone and this is a good option but we will have to see. He has good relationship with Match Room so he could be open for another 2-3 fight with them.
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Moneywise, Bivol would try to make Canelo activate the rematch clause if he wins against Zurdo. And it is also dangerous for Bivol to pursue a unification fight with Beterbiev because he is probably the underdog despite the 3-belt champ's age. And Canelo will never be interested to fight a beltless Bivol. But these fighters from the former Soviet Union are more glory hunters and money only comes second. Beterbiev and Bivol's team might want them to fight Canelo and Yarde respectively for money purposes but we heard these 2 champions during interviews on who they want. Both Beterbiev and Bivol said they want to face each other because they want to become undisputed.
I don't see Bob Arum protecting Beterbiev to face Bivol here knowing his fighter is the A side and probably the slight favorite but only due to Beterbiev's age. Beterbiev is a beast, he would've re-arranged Canelo's face and body if they were the ones fighting. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I believe Beterbiev is the last one to knockdown and hurt our current heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk. And we know Usyk is another legend in the making. Bivol and Beterbiev need to fight each other if they want to enter the Hall of Fame. But DAZN and Matchroom should allow Bob Arum and ESPN to promote and televise the fight to turn this into a reality. As you said, Bivol is not prioritizing Canelo and he won't be if he will come out successful in his fight against Zurdo Ramirez as a fight against Canelo is just a pure money fight with no glory to make. He already proved his talent against the undisputed boxer and upsets Canelo, that said, a rematch from Canelo's camp is the least of things he thinks of. Canelo have two choices if Bivol turns out to be the winner in his upcoming fight, first is that he has to wait because chances are high that Bivol will pursue Beterbiev first and second is to forget having a rematch because there's also a high chance that he will have the same result. And there's no roadblock for an undisputed fight in LHW because Bob Arum openly said that he will allow Beterbiev to fight after his title defense. That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees. Canelo still has a rematch clause but at light-heavyweight. I believe Canelo loves challenges too especially since he is nearing his mid-30s soon. Maybe he can tell Hearn and DAZN to let Bivol fight Beterbiev at Top Rank and ESPN. Then he fights the winner. Bivol seriously knows his boundaries even if he knows that his chances against Canelo are high in SMW and he knows that going after Canelo again won't help him achieve what he wanted in the first place, unfortunately for Canelo, he just became a stepping stone for Bivol to gain more experience and add him to his pretty record. Canelo still has a rematch clause but at light-heavyweight. I believe Canelo loves challenges too especially since he is nearing his mid-30s soon. Maybe he can tell Hearn and DAZN to let Bivol fight Beterbiev at Top Rank and ESPN. Then he fights the winner. Canelo fighting for undisputed title in light-heavyweight? There's a chance but he got to be that lucky if he can have that chance because there are others in the said division who are lined up already. Also, Beterbiev might be hailed as undisputed here and Canelo will fight him? Doesn't make sense because he'll just add another defeat in his record. He can't even defeat Bivol and he is thinking that he can crack Artur Beterbiev? Surely, that's a suicide and might be the first time seeing Canelo sleeping in the canvass.
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Canelo fighting for undisputed title in light-heavyweight? There's a chance but he got to be that lucky if he can have that chance because there are others in the said division who are lined up already. Also, Beterbiev might be hailed as undisputed here and Canelo will fight him? Doesn't make sense because he'll just add another defeat in his record. He can't even defeat Bivol and he is thinking that he can crack Artur Beterbiev? Surely, that's a suicide and might be the first time seeing Canelo sleeping in the canvass.
Well since Canelo doesn't have any tasks left to do in the Super Middleweight, what's next is trying to dominate the Light Heavyweight even for others, its a suicide for Canelo. At least he's not the type of boxer that will protect his legacy by just staying in his comfort weight division. Just look at how the boxing community responds when Canelo was defeated by Bivol. There's not much criticism because at least he tried moving up. Although he failed to win against Bivol, it doesn't mean he can't come back anymore.
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^^ Yes, Canelo has a good management team lead by Eddy Reynoso. So for sure he will look for the best interest of his client and see what the future will bring for him, whether to stay at 168 lbs or move up to 175 lbs and face Beterviev or Bivol or go to CW at 190 lbs and get his next belt. Or just be a free agent so that he can fight anyone and this is a good option but we will have to see. He has good relationship with Match Room so he could be open for another 2-3 fight with them.
I think there's no other candidate for Canelo's next possible match other than Dmitry Bivol and Beterviev. It's been always the talk that Bivol might be the next after Canelo successfully settle the business with Gennady Golovkin last month. Although if Zurdo Ramirez will win here, we should expect that Bivol's rematch against Canelo might not happen. Not unless Bivol will go down weight just to meet Canelo. Although Canelo doesn't have to gain for fighting Bivol again, he should fight Bivol no matter what to clear that bitter loss during their match.
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October 08, 2022, 04:35:43 PM |
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Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.
If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.
It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money. There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere. That is also the issue because Bivol haven't received his share yet, maybe he'll get interested or may give Canelo a chance if Hearn will pull some strings to get Bivol's share that was guaranteed to him. Also, Bivol already learned a lesson in American soil and I won't be surprised if the fight will take place in UAE where the place is neutral for both camps. That is the nearest possible scenario because Bivol here have earned his right to demand.
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October 08, 2022, 09:17:51 PM |
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Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.
If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.
It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money. There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere. That is also the issue because Bivol haven't received his share yet, maybe he'll get interested or may give Canelo a chance if Hearn will pull some strings to get Bivol's share that was guaranteed to him. Also, Bivol already learned a lesson in American soil and I won't be surprised if the fight will take place in UAE where the place is neutral for both camps. That is the nearest possible scenario because Bivol here have earned his right to demand. Negotiation will take place for sure and both camps will agree if where they wanted to see the fight to happen, learning from that last fight and the money still stuck for sure Bivol's camp will be more wise now, they will not allow that to happen again since it will be Canelo that will ask for the rematch and they have the belt if Bivol continue to win. We will hear more about this once both camps start negotiating if they are still interested in fighting each other and if Canelo is still interested in redeeming himself after suffering a defeat from Bivol.
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October 09, 2022, 05:00:45 PM |
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Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.
If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.
It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money. There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere. That is also the issue because Bivol haven't received his share yet, maybe he'll get interested or may give Canelo a chance if Hearn will pull some strings to get Bivol's share that was guaranteed to him. Also, Bivol already learned a lesson in American soil and I won't be surprised if the fight will take place in UAE where the place is neutral for both camps. That is the nearest possible scenario because Bivol here have earned his right to demand. Negotiation will take place for sure and both camps will agree if where they wanted to see the fight to happen, learning from that last fight and the money still stuck for sure Bivol's camp will be more wise now, they will not allow that to happen again since it will be Canelo that will ask for the rematch and they have the belt if Bivol continue to win. We will hear more about this once both camps start negotiating if they are still interested in fighting each other and if Canelo is still interested in redeeming himself after suffering a defeat from Bivol. Yes, Canelo and Hearn doesn't have much choice but to agree with Bivol's decision as he already earned the right to demand in case a rematch will happen even if the fight will be contested at 168 pounds. But before that, we know Canelo's camp are still observing what will happen on Bivol's upcoming match as that will determine if they will activate the rematch or not. We will know about it more soon, just like what you've said.
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October 09, 2022, 07:19:07 PM |
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Canelo fighting for undisputed title in light-heavyweight? There's a chance but he got to be that lucky if he can have that chance because there are others in the said division who are lined up already. Also, Beterbiev might be hailed as undisputed here and Canelo will fight him? Doesn't make sense because he'll just add another defeat in his record. He can't even defeat Bivol and he is thinking that he can crack Artur Beterbiev? Surely, that's a suicide and might be the first time seeing Canelo sleeping in the canvass.
Well since Canelo doesn't have any tasks left to do in the Super Middleweight, what's next is trying to dominate the Light Heavyweight even for others, its a suicide for Canelo. At least he's not the type of boxer that will protect his legacy by just staying in his comfort weight division. Just look at how the boxing community responds when Canelo was defeated by Bivol. There's not much criticism because at least he tried moving up. Although he failed to win against Bivol, it doesn't mean he can't come back anymore. I guess we will see it soon if he will take that chance to fight the undisputed boxer it may be Zurdo, Beterbiev or Bivol and I strongly believe that it's the latter who will reign as undisputed. Aside from that, Canelo might be busy in SMW as well as he will also have to defend his titles, or the sanctioning bodies will give him a mandatory opponent. Well, for us, Canelo is already irreplaceable because he managed to attain the highest attainable rank in the boxing, and he just need to accept sometimes that there are certain divisions that doesn't suit to him.
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