Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez

[TopTort777]

On the one hand, I agree that these are Canelo's problems, since he needs a revenge to restore his reputation. But we must also not forget that if Bivol loses weight, then this will not give Canelo any advantage - on the contrary, Bivol will gain an advantage. Most athletes use methods to cut weight to the desired numbers through various procedures, as a result of which weight is lost due to dehydration and fat burning. Muscles remain in place. Thus, when fighting in a lower weight class, Bivol will be just as strong and perhaps even a little faster. Therefore, I think that Canelo will try to gain weight himself in order to fight in the Bivol weight category.

Each body is different, everyone has different metabolism, but in most cases, muscles burn faster and first, than fat. That is why sitting on a diet wont make fat women fit

We do not know what is really written in that rematch clause, but Bivol only needs that if he only needs money. He has already beaten Canelo. It is Canelos obligatory to fight in 175, because Bivol did not aim to fight in super middleweight in first place. And I think that Bivol is not really interested in having that rematch. Instead, it will be more interesting for him to face Beterbiev or to go to cruiserweight, then make a step back and fight in 168.

[mirakal]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

There's no reason for Bivol too to agree with Canelo if the latter wanted to make the rematch in his comfortable division, he can activate the rematch but he have no power to demand anything, not even the cut because Canelo has lost the battle with the Russian boxer whom we expect that Canelo will take his belt but the opposite thing happened. It was my first time watching Canelo in his prime defeated ugly and it was evident that he cannot outbox the champion. If I were Canelo, I'll just look at the money side because it's almost no use in hoping that he can make a different outcome in their rematch.

[stadus]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

[Fredomago]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

There's no reason for Bivol too to agree with Canelo if the latter wanted to make the rematch in his comfortable division, he can activate the rematch but he have no power to demand anything, not even the cut because Canelo has lost the battle with the Russian boxer whom we expect that Canelo will take his belt but the opposite thing happened. It was my first time watching Canelo in his prime defeated ugly and it was evident that he cannot outbox the champion. If I were Canelo, I'll just look at the money side because it's almost no use in hoping that he can make a different outcome in their rematch.

For sure Canelo's camp will aim for more money not for the title anymore, after he's been exposed by Bivol's speed he can' box him as Bivol always have the best counter in each attempt of Canelo to corner him, though we had seen that Canelo really try it hard to get the dominance but Bivol is not giving him that advantage.

Bivol now has the power to make his own deal after beating Canelo, he can activate the rematch on his own condition.

[Boristhecat]

On the one hand, I agree that these are Canelo's problems, since he needs a revenge to restore his reputation. But we must also not forget that if Bivol loses weight, then this will not give Canelo any advantage - on the contrary, Bivol will gain an advantage. Most athletes use methods to cut weight to the desired numbers through various procedures, as a result of which weight is lost due to dehydration and fat burning. Muscles remain in place. Thus, when fighting in a lower weight class, Bivol will be just as strong and perhaps even a little faster. Therefore, I think that Canelo will try to gain weight himself in order to fight in the Bivol weight category.

Each body is different, everyone has different metabolism, but in most cases, muscles burn faster and first, than fat. That is why sitting on a diet wont make fat women fit

We do not know what is really written in that rematch clause, but Bivol only needs that if he only needs money. He has already beaten Canelo. It is Canelos obligatory to fight in 175, because Bivol did not aim to fight in super middleweight in first place. And I think that Bivol is not really interested in having that rematch. Instead, it will be more interesting for him to face Beterbiev or to go to cruiserweight, then make a step back and fight in 168.

In professional sports, things work differently (although even in the case of women, I'm not sure that your judgment is correct). Professional athletes lose weight not really, but formally - they lose weight before weighing in order to regain a significant part of it in the remaining day before the fight. That is why any diuretics are prohibited along with other types of doping.
Regarding your reasoning about the interests of Bivol and Canelo, I agree, and it seems to me that Canelo will not seek revenge - he has already been humiliated once, there is no reason to believe that this will not happen again.

[btc_angela]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

[Baofeng]

On the one hand, I agree that these are Canelo's problems, since he needs a revenge to restore his reputation. But we must also not forget that if Bivol loses weight, then this will not give Canelo any advantage - on the contrary, Bivol will gain an advantage. Most athletes use methods to cut weight to the desired numbers through various procedures, as a result of which weight is lost due to dehydration and fat burning. Muscles remain in place. Thus, when fighting in a lower weight class, Bivol will be just as strong and perhaps even a little faster. Therefore, I think that Canelo will try to gain weight himself in order to fight in the Bivol weight category.

Each body is different, everyone has different metabolism, but in most cases, muscles burn faster and first, than fat. That is why sitting on a diet wont make fat women fit

We do not know what is really written in that rematch clause, but Bivol only needs that if he only needs money. He has already beaten Canelo. It is Canelos obligatory to fight in 175, because Bivol did not aim to fight in super middleweight in first place. And I think that Bivol is not really interested in having that rematch. Instead, it will be more interesting for him to face Beterbiev or to go to cruiserweight, then make a step back and fight in 168.

In professional sports, things work differently (although even in the case of women, I'm not sure that your judgment is correct). Professional athletes lose weight not really, but formally - they lose weight before weighing in order to regain a significant part of it in the remaining day before the fight. That is why any diuretics are prohibited along with other types of doping.

That is called weight classes in boxing, so that no boxers are into an advantage or disadvantage as they are going to fight in a weight. So they really have to lose weight prior to the fight itself, and then the the boxing organizations, weigh in in accordance. But then again they can rehydrate to as big as 10 lbs or more after that weigh in. However, there are certain clauses inserted in contract that a boxer can only rehydrate this big as not to have any advantage to his opponents. And I agree that diuretics is prohibited because they want the boxers to lose that extra lbs legally by diet.

Regarding your reasoning about the interests of Bivol and Canelo, I agree, and it seems to me that Canelo will not seek revenge - he has already been humiliated once, there is no reason to believe that this will not happen again.

He is too proud to lose the fight against Bivol. And we didn't expect that Bivol can do that against the best version of Bivol. But I guess Canelo's mistake is facing a prime light heavyweight, unlike before when he faces Kovalev, who is ageing champion at 175. But Canelo admit that he had difficulty in that fight.

[Fredomago]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

Bivol did not only gain respect from Canelo but also with the wide venue of fans around this sport, after beating Alvarez his chance to enjoy more fights and earn huge amount of money is already on his grasp, I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

Let see first if how he will perform in this upcoming fight, then talk the rest of his camps plan after.

[chaser15]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

[mirakal]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

There's no reason for Bivol too to agree with Canelo if the latter wanted to make the rematch in his comfortable division, he can activate the rematch but he have no power to demand anything, not even the cut because Canelo has lost the battle with the Russian boxer whom we expect that Canelo will take his belt but the opposite thing happened. It was my first time watching Canelo in his prime defeated ugly and it was evident that he cannot outbox the champion. If I were Canelo, I'll just look at the money side because it's almost no use in hoping that he can make a different outcome in their rematch.

For sure Canelo's camp will aim for more money not for the title anymore, after he's been exposed by Bivol's speed he can' box him as Bivol always have the best counter in each attempt of Canelo to corner him, though we had seen that Canelo really try it hard to get the dominance but Bivol is not giving him that advantage.

Bivol now has the power to make his own deal after beating Canelo, he can activate the rematch on his own condition.

I agree, it will be just a pure money fight in case it will happen because Canelo's record has been damaged already, so there's no reason for them to get anxious because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore and they are just taking advantage while Canelo is still a star. Bivol did a good job on taking the fight fearlessly even though his country is in a midst issue and his family is in Russia.

[Jating]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

Yes, that's also my concern on Beterviev, he is injured and trying to heal that's why his fight with Yarde is postponed for the meantime. There is no timetable for his return so it might be good or bad for Bivol. What I mean is that if Bivol wins and does not want a Canelo fight then he has to wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde winner. But he don't know when is the fight going to happen since Beterviev didn't have any released date for his return. So everything is hanging on Beterviev's recovery before we can see the unification fight in Light Weight.

[usekevin]

The fight between two players define their strength towards the match.Bivol need to win a huge matches to skip many matches for the skip of some match.Which included the match against the Ramirez.When he had a fight with the Ramirez and he never lose the game.He can win the match against Ramirez.Bivol know all the strategy game of Ramirez.The game between Yarde was postponed with many reasons.But the fight of Arthur was not seems to be postponed.

[Fredomago]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

Yes, that's also my concern on Beterviev, he is injured and trying to heal that's why his fight with Yarde is postponed for the meantime. There is no timetable for his return so it might be good or bad for Bivol. What I mean is that if Bivol wins and does not want a Canelo fight then he has to wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde winner. But he don't know when is the fight going to happen since Beterviev didn't have any released date for his return. So everything is hanging on Beterviev's recovery before we can see the unification fight in Light Weight.

Bivol's camp will take other options after finishing this upcoming fight with a win, if Beterviev is not available there are other challengers that might be provided by the promoters and handlers, or maybe Bivol will take the rematch and ask for much better deal, for the meantime he needs to deal with Ramirez and again impress the fans for more money fight to happen.

The fight between two players define their strength towards the match.Bivol need to win a huge matches to skip many matches for the skip of some match.Which included the match against the Ramirez.When he had a fight with the Ramirez and he never lose the game.He can win the match against Ramirez.Bivol know all the strategy game of Ramirez.The game between Yarde was postponed with many reasons.But the fight of Arthur was not seems to be postponed.

Bivol need to adjust with any types of fighters he will be facing, just like how he impress the fans when he beats Alvarez, he will be showing more skill as he knows that Ramirez camps already scout him.

[stadus]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

Canelo can still call the shots regardless of the result of this fight but he cannot demand because he is not in the A-side anymore, now he's the one chasing while Bivol is looking at him as a finished chapter. So, we will probably see it soon if these guys wants to have second dance. Before that, we should witness this explosive fight first.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Something that Canelo didn't expect when they met inside the ring, simple jabs then  protect his face and body, not allowing Canelo to break his defense.

Canelo is too confident that he thinks he can outclass Bivol in their match. Since he is an undisputed champion, he is confident that he can easily defeat Bivol in their match. Bivol is also a heavy underdog and their odds are really a gap.

But Bivol just does his usual boxing style. He didn't even use special techniques or what.

I guess we can also say that Canelo might have underestimate Bivol too because he thought that he could crack another title in the light-heavyweight as he successfully did the same thing 2 years ago against Sergey Kovalev. Seriously, they need to consider that Bivol was a natural in that said division while Canelo needed an extra weight to meet the required weight, that also means that he will get slower while giving an advantage to Bivol. And now, there's a rumor that Canelo will face Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight. That's a suicide!

There is something that Canelo lacked against BIVOL and it was more grit, more heart, more desire, I think that Canelo apart from that he did not prepare very well for that fight, he was very careful, Bivol is a boxer who cannot be neglected because take advantage of each vulnerability and that was what Canelo gave, Canelo when many rounds pass he tends to get tired and save himself for the last Rpund and that is something very dangerous, I would not do it, I would give everything I can and if it is from I would like to finish in the first round, because it would exhaust everything I have and when my strength runs out, I would only dedicate myself to the totally defensive fight, for me that would be the good strategy against Bivol, but let's see how Zurdo thinks and how will handle the situation against this very strong fighter.

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight. 

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

Bivol did not only gain respect from Canelo but also with the wide venue of fans around this sport, after beating Alvarez his chance to enjoy more fights and earn huge amount of money is already on his grasp, I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

Let see first if how he will perform in this upcoming fight, then talk the rest of his camps plan after.

In my personal opinion I think that Bivol wants to do everything possible to get more fame with his titles, he wants more titles, because that is the only way he can become more famous and get level 1A fights, because of the level of demand I think the Russian is not afraid of him Nothing, because he relies a lot on his technique and his fighting style, which is becoming more ingrained every time and I think he improves it, if we get to see Bivol he has a very rudimentary style, you are something like the old school, and that It helps a lot, for me he is making a lot of fame to be able to harvest more money, and I don't see this badly, I think it is a very intelligent option, and the truth is I don't think he will give Canelo a recmatch for now.

Good according to Oscar de la Hoya's opinion:

BIVOL vs. ZURDO MEDIA WORKOUT: OSCAR DE LA HOYA

With a fired up Mexican band setting up a festive tone, media and boxing fans alike rallied together for a special Los Angeles media workout event hosted by undefeated, former WBO Super Middleweight World Champion Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramirez (44-0, 30 KOs) at Brickhouse Boxing Club.

Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/54880-bivol-vs-zurdo-media-workout-oscar-de-la-hoya.html

The video is very interesting, I recommend it, and all the history on twitter.

[chaser15]

Canelo can still call the shots regardless of the result of this fight but he cannot demand because he is not in the A-side anymore, now he's the one chasing while Bivol is looking at him as a finished chapter. So, we will probably see it soon if these guys wants to have second dance. Before that, we should witness this explosive fight first.

Dmitry Bivol won't likely accept that Canelo's call unless the latter has the World Title to staked with.

Bivol is eyeing and looking forward to building his legacy by only challenging those other champions not unless he was being mandated.

Canelo vs Bivol can happened soon if the former will start working his way up defeating mid-tier boxers on the Light Heavyweight

[Kemarit]

Even 168 seems to be few for Dmitry. He is a big guy by nature. I just cant imagine him being 168. Dmitry seems to be +85kg in off season and 79.4 (or 175lbs) on the scales. Dropping almost 10kg just to have a rematch? It is Canelo, who needs to gain weight and fight in 175, to rebuild reputation. Canelo needs to beat Dmitry "on Dmitry's field", to gain confidence and respect back. What is the point for Dmitry to cut, when it was Canelo who wanted to test himself in light heavyweight.  

Yes, I think if there will be a rematch between Dmitry and Saul Alvarez it will be 175 lbs. Alvarez can definitely made 175 lbs easy, but Bivol will have problems making that weight.

And if I'm not mistaken, the first fight is 175 lbs so not sure why they need to change in the rematch unless Alvarez wants to take advantage of making Bivol life very difficult because he will have to squeeze his body to super middleweight.

And Canelo might be left hanging if he will suddenly decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. because Bivol won't surely agree with that as in the first place, Canelo lost in 175 so it's expected to contest the rematch at the same weight. I'm not sure what is in their contract but I think Bivol has a right to deny a rematch if Canelo will active the rematch in super-middle.

I agree and I reckon that Canelo doesn't have the power to call the shots this time, he'll be lucky if Bivol will make some time for him because I think an undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division will be the next thing to happen, but if Bivol will got defeated here, it will be Ramirez who will have the opportunity to fight Bob Arum's monster cow while Canelo won't have the appetite to fight Bivol because there's no title in the line anymore.

Canelo though is still the cash cow and for me, can still call the shots if he wants. But maybe he has respect to Bivol after he was defeated. And so it is still a good chance that Canelo will seek revenge to the persona against Bivol win or lose.

But Bivol has only a good option to fight Beterviev if the Canelo fight won't happen after his Ramirez win. And yes, this should be 175 lbs no doubt.

Canelo can still call the shots regardless of the result of this fight but he cannot demand because he is not in the A-side anymore, now he's the one chasing while Bivol is looking at him as a finished chapter. So, we will probably see it soon if these guys wants to have second dance. Before that, we should witness this explosive fight first.

I disagree though, Canelo will always be the A-side in his fight as what has been said he is the pound for pound and the cash cow. Yes, Bivol has the choice to walk out and not fight him, but in terms of money even if he fought Beterviev for unification, he will not get more money than fighting Canelo.

And his team knows this, maybe they will have some leverage in the second fight but it has been sealed already that there will be a rematch that Canelo can exercise and Bivol can't refused. And mostly the split has been included as well and for sure Canelo will still get the lion share of the split no matter what.

[Japinat]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

A unification fight will definitely happen if Bivol successfully defends his title again, I mean what else is next, right? This might be twice as hard from his fight against Canelo but if he can win this, his name will be hyped so much that people will call for an undisputed fight next. And just like what you've said, I hope so too that Artur Beterbiev will be healthy again because watching a fight where the other side have some problems is not that interesting to see.

[inthelongrun]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

A unification fight will definitely happen if Bivol successfully defends his title again, I mean what else is next, right? This might be twice as hard from his fight against Canelo but if he can win this, his name will be hyped so much that people will call for an undisputed fight next. And just like what you've said, I hope so too that Artur Beterbiev will be healthy again because watching a fight where the other side have some problems is not that interesting to see.

If Canelo is not exercising his rematch clause or is not interested in another Mexican in Ramirez, I really hope the winner of this fight faces Beterbiev or Yarde for the undisputed belts. Bob Arum already mentioned that the fight needs to happen under his promotion with ESPN televising it. Top Rank may sound selfish but unless we hear about Eddie Hearn's counter offer then Bob has a point, especially since Beterbiev is considered the lineal champ in this division aside from his 3 belts compared to Bivol's 1 belt. It would be interesting to hear Matchroom's take on this one. Both Beterbiev and Bivol clearly wanted to fight each other already, hopefully, their promoters and networks agree to a deal. 

[Fredomago]

I'm already assuming that after this Ramirez fight he will push his chance facing Beterviev who knows he might also upset another champ and add more in his belt.

I think there will be no mandatory fight for Bivol if he wins this fight against Ramirez. The unification fight involving him will surely follow next.

Either it is Artur Beterviev as his next opponent if won against Anthony Yarde next year or someone else.

I hope Beterview is now fully healed for his match next year as that was the reason why this month's face-off with Yarde was postponed.

A unification fight will definitely happen if Bivol successfully defends his title again, I mean what else is next, right? This might be twice as hard from his fight against Canelo but if he can win this, his name will be hyped so much that people will call for an undisputed fight next. And just like what you've said, I hope so too that Artur Beterbiev will be healthy again because watching a fight where the other side have some problems is not that interesting to see.

If Canelo is not exercising his rematch clause or is not interested in another Mexican in Ramirez, I really hope the winner of this fight faces Beterbiev or Yarde for the undisputed belts. Bob Arum already mentioned that the fight needs to happen under his promotion with ESPN televising it. Top Rank may sound selfish but unless we hear about Eddie Hearn's counter offer then Bob has a point, especially since Beterbiev is considered the lineal champ in this division aside from his 3 belts compared to Bivol's 1 belt. It would be interesting to hear Matchroom's take on this one. Both Beterbiev and Bivol clearly wanted to fight each other already, hopefully, their promoters and networks agree to a deal. 

More on how they will make more money and how both promoters will deal the negotiations, in this sport we all know how big the influence of money making fight, both handlers and the network will weight the potential and will decide according to how they will gain a huge amount of profits, and adding to that they really can make things happen.

You already mentioned that both fighters are interested in facing each other inside the ring, so it won't be hard for both fighters to
bring this to reality.