Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez

[Vaculin]

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

And when he does that, he will be the unified champion at 168 which is Bivol's dream. A fight with Beterbiev for the unification of belt at 175 would cement his place in history as the two-division unified champion which I think non has accomplished yet.

If the above scenario happens, Bivol should thank Canelo for opening the door to history, i mean Bivol's first victory against Canelo was the one that make him more famous in the boxing world just like Pacquiao's first victory against Barrera.

Well, that is if Canelo Alvarez himself would risk the belts and his undisputed title just to get revenge. His camp and Hearn will surely say that it's not worth it to do because he already lost the fight once and he have nothing to lose this time, so it's still better for him to pursue the fight in Bivol's division.

Giving Bivol a chance to fight him in super middle will be Canelo's worst mistake and he will get nightmares for months because Bivol will have it for sure. In short, I don't think Canelo's dumb enough to do that, but, we'll see.

[serjent05]

Well, that is if Canelo Alvarez himself would risk the belts and his undisputed title just to get revenge. His camp and Hearn will surely say that it's not worth it to do because he already lost the fight once and he have nothing to lose this time, so it's still better for him to pursue the fight in Bivol's division.

I agree, it is a smarter move for Canelo to fight Bivol's in his Division.  If Canelo move up to Bivol's division, he is not risking his title and will stay the undisputed champion even though he losses to Bivol.

Giving Bivol a chance to fight him in super middle will be Canelo's worst mistake and he will get nightmares for months because Bivol will have it for sure. In short, I don't think Canelo's dumb enough to do that, but, we'll see.

I agree, why risk the title when he can fight in another Division and have a chance to take the title in that Division?  All in all moving to Bivol's weight division is the best option for Canelo.

[Baofeng]

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

And when he does that, he will be the unified champion at 168 which is Bivol's dream. A fight with Beterbiev for the unification of belt at 175 would cement his place in history as the two-division unified champion which I think non has accomplished yet.

If the above scenario happens, Bivol should thank Canelo for opening the door to history, i mean Bivol's first victory against Canelo was the one that make him more famous in the boxing world just like Pacquiao's first victory against Barrera.

Well, that is if Canelo Alvarez himself would risk the belts and his undisputed title just to get revenge. His camp and Hearn will surely say that it's not worth it to do because he already lost the fight once and he have nothing to lose this time, so it's still better for him to pursue the fight in Bivol's division.

Giving Bivol a chance to fight him in super middle will be Canelo's worst mistake and he will get nightmares for months because Bivol will have it for sure. In short, I don't think Canelo's dumb enough to do that, but, we'll see.

The ball is all on the side of Canelo, he has the burden whether risk all his belt at 168 lbs and lost everything and not assured of a 3rd fight with Bivol. Or fighting Bivol at 175 lbs, which we have seen could be a weight that he can't conquer, yes, he won against an out of prime Kovalev but he did admit that he had a hard time, so that should be a red flag for him that 175 lbs might not be for them. You can call it a dilemma for him, but if his pride will take over, he might go and rematch Bivol and take the risk at 175 lbs.

[Vaculin]

Well, that is if Canelo Alvarez himself would risk the belts and his undisputed title just to get revenge. His camp and Hearn will surely say that it's not worth it to do because he already lost the fight once and he have nothing to lose this time, so it's still better for him to pursue the fight in Bivol's division.

I agree, it is a smarter move for Canelo to fight Bivol's in his Division.  If Canelo move up to Bivol's division, he is not risking his title and will stay the undisputed champion even though he losses to Bivol.

Giving Bivol a chance to fight him in super middle will be Canelo's worst mistake and he will get nightmares for months because Bivol will have it for sure. In short, I don't think Canelo's dumb enough to do that, but, we'll see.

I agree, why risk the title when he can fight in another Division and have a chance to take the title in that Division?  All in all moving to Bivol's weight division is the best option for Canelo.

Indeed! Because why would he do that in the first place? He has nothing to gain or benefit if he will fight Bivol in 168 and the same thing will remain if he can manage to win, but if he'll lose, it'll be much harder for him to take that throne back to his possession. Bringing the fight in the division where they first encountered will be much advantageous for him, it might not be a win, but he will benefit a couple of millions because of it.

The ball is all on the side of Canelo, he has the burden whether risk all his belt at 168 lbs and lost everything and not assured of a 3rd fight with Bivol. Or fighting Bivol at 175 lbs, which we have seen could be a weight that he can't conquer, yes, he won against an out of prime Kovalev but he did admit that he had a hard time, so that should be a red flag for him that 175 lbs might not be for them. You can call it a dilemma for him, but if his pride will take over, he might go and rematch Bivol and take the risk at 175 lbs.

Canelo should forget that burden and the pressure to get revenge because his chances are still the same, slim, in any given divisions. He cannot do nothing about it because Bivol already proved how hard can he be as an opponent. It's best to take advantage of the situation while he's still hyped against Bivol, rather than risking what he got in 168 lbs.

[Sithara007]

Canelo should forget that burden and the pressure to get revenge because his chances are still the same, slim, in any given divisions. He cannot do nothing about it because Bivol already proved how hard can he be as an opponent. It's best to take advantage of the situation while he's still hyped against Bivol, rather than risking what he got in 168 lbs.

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed? Recently there was a statement from Julio Cesar Chavez, who is one of the legends in boxing. It was more like an advice, rather than a statement. He warned Canelo to stay clear of Bivol. As per Chavez, Canelo has zero chance of beating Bivol and I agree with his assessment. And look at the way in which Bivol destroyed Zurdo. Do you guys really believe that Canelo would be able to stand up to this giant? LOL.. Bivol is more like a machine rather than human. 

[LUCKMCFLY]

Bivol right now is not interested in revenge fights because he is quite busy getting his own legacy, he can't just cater Canelo even Bivol have the right to demand about the business cuts. Canelo can activate the rematch whether Bivol wins or not but he should know that Bivol is not prioritizing him especially if he will get a win here versus Ramirez because currently, Bivol's vision are locked on Ramirez and Beterbiev or Yarde next.

You are right, I see that Bivol is a boxer who has a lot of maturity, he always does things that can put us with great emotions, as far as I am concerned, I think that Bivol as he is going can go as far as he wants, I don't know, but it is a boxer who promises, I was thinking that if Bivol changed to one more category, of course by winning what he should win so that there is no discussion, something like what Inoue is doing and fighting, he can compete for fights that will give him a lot more fame, for me what Bivol is looking for the most apart from everything else is that, fame, and where there is fame there is a lot of money, that small detail should not be left aside.

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

And when he does that, he will be the unified champion at 168 which is Bivol's dream. A fight with Beterbiev for the unification of belt at 175 would cement his place in history as the two-division unified champion which I think non has accomplished yet.

If the above scenario happens, Bivol should thank Canelo for opening the door to history, i mean Bivol's first victory against Canelo was the one that make him more famous in the boxing world just like Pacquiao's first victory against Barrera.

Well, that is if Canelo Alvarez himself would risk the belts and his undisputed title just to get revenge. His camp and Hearn will surely say that it's not worth it to do because he already lost the fight once and he have nothing to lose this time, so it's still better for him to pursue the fight in Bivol's division.

Giving Bivol a chance to fight him in super middle will be Canelo's worst mistake and he will get nightmares for months because Bivol will have it for sure. In short, I don't think Canelo's dumb enough to do that, but, we'll see.

The ball is all on the side of Canelo, he has the burden whether risk all his belt at 168 lbs and lost everything and not assured of a 3rd fight with Bivol. Or fighting Bivol at 175 lbs, which we have seen could be a weight that he can't conquer, yes, he won against an out of prime Kovalev but he did admit that he had a hard time, so that should be a red flag for him that 175 lbs might not be for them. You can call it a dilemma for him, but if his pride will take over, he might go and rematch Bivol and take the risk at 175 lbs.

In the event that Canelo can make that change in category and risk his title, I think that would make it more interesting, I don't know if Bivol is still interested, if those things can happen, what Bivol will want is fame, in this case what What comes to my mind is that Bivol does not want to be banned for being Russian, like what has been done to many Russian athletes worldwide, they have even been removed from their championships due to the problem in Russia and Ukraine that each time it continues to increase, it is unfortunate but things are as they are, that is why Bivol must be taking those attitudes, well it is only speculation, I do not know if I am wrong in my thoughts.

[carlisle1]

Canelo should forget that burden and the pressure to get revenge because his chances are still the same, slim, in any given divisions. He cannot do nothing about it because Bivol already proved how hard can he be as an opponent. It's best to take advantage of the situation while he's still hyped against Bivol, rather than risking what he got in 168 lbs.

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed? Recently there was a statement from Julio Cesar Chavez, who is one of the legends in boxing. It was more like an advice, rather than a statement. He warned Canelo to stay clear of Bivol. As per Chavez, Canelo has zero chance of beating Bivol and I agree with his assessment. And look at the way in which Bivol destroyed Zurdo. Do you guys really believe that Canelo would be able to stand up to this giant? LOL.. Bivol is more like a machine rather than human. 

Indeed right, Canelo needs to think about it before activating the rematch option. From how Bivol beats Zurdo it's a clear indication that
this man is not just an ordinary champ but a tough one to defeat.

Though if there's pride inside Canelo which gives him that eagerness to take his revenge or if it's really pushing him to take that rematch
then it will be good to see them inside the ring again.

Let see if what Canelo will bring in trying to win and strips Bivol's belt.

[Jawhead999]

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed? Recently there was a statement from Julio Cesar Chavez, who is one of the legends in boxing.

There's no official announcement with this rematch, but it's high likely will happen very soon since it would be crazy if Canelo skip to fight with Bivol and choose Beterbiev.

Let see if what Canelo will bring in trying to win and strips Bivol's belt.

I just hope if Canelo will lose again, then trilogy is high likely will happen even though Bivol doesn't have any title, since the next plan when the Canelo vs Bivol II happen, Bivol will fight against Beterbiev.

At least even though Canelo was destroying GGG's career, Canelo will get destroyed by Bivol. I think it's time to bet Bivol, I believe the odds will still favor to Canelo.

[stadus]

Canelo should forget that burden and the pressure to get revenge because his chances are still the same, slim, in any given divisions. He cannot do nothing about it because Bivol already proved how hard can he be as an opponent. It's best to take advantage of the situation while he's still hyped against Bivol, rather than risking what he got in 168 lbs.

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed? Recently there was a statement from Julio Cesar Chavez, who is one of the legends in boxing. It was more like an advice, rather than a statement. He warned Canelo to stay clear of Bivol. As per Chavez, Canelo has zero chance of beating Bivol and I agree with his assessment. And look at the way in which Bivol destroyed Zurdo. Do you guys really believe that Canelo would be able to stand up to this giant? LOL.. Bivol is more like a machine rather than human. 

I'd say it is not possible in that given time, 6 months is not enough. It is said that Canelo Alvarez just came from a surgery from the injury in his wrist that he sustained while preparing for Bivol and things got worst after his fight with Bivol. That said, his camp is expecting a long lay-off and Canelo might be back somewhere in the 3rd or 4th quarter in the year 2023, but it is not guaranteed that he will face Bivol right after because his camp might give him a tune-up fight first.

As for Canelo's chances against Bivol, it's still the same and hasn't improve even a bit. It was too clear that Canelo is not built for the natural guys in the Light-heavyweight division. Bivol is his limits, he just got lucky from that Kovalev fight.

[harizen]

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed?

Since that was just a plan, therefore, don't expect a confirmation yet.

Canelo is looking forward to a rematch but Bivol honestly doesn't have anything to gain if he will fight him again. Bivol's goal is to build a strong legacy by taking more championship belts that's why it's obvious that he will go instead against a Champion, and that's against Beterbiev to unify the belts at 175 given the latter will win against Yarde next year.

Bivol might consider taking a rematch against Canelo if the former will fight instead at 168 as there's a belt at stake there. Although that was unlikely to happen as why Bivol should consider going down as he already dominating the 175 unless he also wants to take all the belts at the super middleweight in the future. But from 175 to 168, that would be tough.

[Sithara007]

I'd say it is not possible in that given time, 6 months is not enough. It is said that Canelo Alvarez just came from a surgery from the injury in his wrist that he sustained while preparing for Bivol and things got worst after his fight with Bivol. That said, his camp is expecting a long lay-off and Canelo might be back somewhere in the 3rd or 4th quarter in the year 2023, but it is not guaranteed that he will face Bivol right after because his camp might give him a tune-up fight first.

As for Canelo's chances against Bivol, it's still the same and hasn't improve even a bit. It was too clear that Canelo is not built for the natural guys in the Light-heavyweight division. Bivol is his limits, he just got lucky from that Kovalev fight.

Oh.. I was unaware of this injury issue. So that means that the rematch may not happen as planned, at least not on May 2023. From what I heard, Canelo has a torn cartilage in his left wrist, and he underwent surgery to take care of that. Now this is a serious injury, and I don't really expect any action from him for Q1 and Q2 2023. And he will be in recovery and rehabilitation mode and therefore I don't expect much for Q3 2023 as well. BTW, I agree with your assessment that Canelo should stay out of Light heavyweight division.

[inthelongrun]

I'd say it is not possible in that given time, 6 months is not enough. It is said that Canelo Alvarez just came from a surgery from the injury in his wrist that he sustained while preparing for Bivol and things got worst after his fight with Bivol. That said, his camp is expecting a long lay-off and Canelo might be back somewhere in the 3rd or 4th quarter in the year 2023, but it is not guaranteed that he will face Bivol right after because his camp might give him a tune-up fight first.

As for Canelo's chances against Bivol, it's still the same and hasn't improve even a bit. It was too clear that Canelo is not built for the natural guys in the Light-heavyweight division. Bivol is his limits, he just got lucky from that Kovalev fight.

Oh.. I was unaware of this injury issue. So that means that the rematch may not happen as planned, at least not on May 2023. From what I heard, Canelo has a torn cartilage in his left wrist, and he underwent surgery to take care of that. Now this is a serious injury, and I don't really expect any action from him for Q1 and Q2 2023. And he will be in recovery and rehabilitation mode and therefore I don't expect much for Q3 2023 as well. BTW, I agree with your assessment that Canelo should stay out of Light heavyweight division.

So Canelo Alvarez himself said that he might be ready in the month of May next year, most probably Mayo de Cinco. He seems to be very hungry for revenge which is not bad in this sport. I remember when Canelo was taunting Floyd Mayweather (Canelo's first defeat when he was only 23 years old in a catchweight) before for a rematch.     

One thing that struck me is when Canelo mentioned that there are lots of things to do if Bivol doesn't accept the rematch. Does it mean that his rematch clause is already expired? Or is Canelo hinting that the fight happens at 168 and will defend his undisputed belts against Bivol? I would actually love to see it at 168, this way we see a better Canelo and a slimmer Bivol which would take away some of the latter's advantages.

Source: Canelo Alvarez Wants Dmitry Bivol Rematch In May, Looking For “Revenge”

[Fredomago]

I heard that Canelo is planning to take on Bivol in around 6 months from now (May 2023). Is this confirmed?

Since that was just a plan, therefore, don't expect a confirmation yet.

Canelo is looking forward to a rematch but Bivol honestly doesn't have anything to gain if he will fight him again. Bivol's goal is to build a strong legacy by taking more championship belts that's why it's obvious that he will go instead against a Champion, and that's against Beterbiev to unify the belts at 175 given the latter will win against Yarde next year.

Bivol might consider taking a rematch against Canelo if the former will fight instead at 168 as there's a belt at stake there. Although that was unlikely to happen as why Bivol should consider going down as he already dominating the 175 unless he also wants to take all the belts at the super middleweight in the future. But from 175 to 168, that would be tough.

If Bivol is aiming to hold both titles from that 2 different division then he can go to that route since Beterbiev still needs to fight Yorde before he can negotiate if he will defend his belt, there are lots of things to expect next year as those big name fighters are really aiming to beat one another, good thing for the fans is they will be able to witness more great challengers with a better chances of un-stripping the current belt holders.

We will hear more updates regarding to whoever Bivol will going to fight, either he will activate the rematch with Canelo in 175 or 168, all in his hands now.

[btc_angela]

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal.

Your argument though is flawed, it's easy to go up in weight than go down. We have seen boxers like Casimero having issues making his weight at 118 lbs, thus he was stripped. So that is my argument, Bivol is a natural 175 lbs, maybe can go down to 168 lbs and make the weight, but it might bring him more troubles in the fight is all I'm saying.

Let Canelo go up again in his 175 lbs, that's what Canelo is doing in the last 3 years, heck he even wants to go as high as 190 and fight to Cruiser.

So if he insist that he wants Bivol at his comfort zone, then something might not be right  and Bivol will be at a big disadvantage, all I'm saying.

[stadus]

I'd say it is not possible in that given time, 6 months is not enough. It is said that Canelo Alvarez just came from a surgery from the injury in his wrist that he sustained while preparing for Bivol and things got worst after his fight with Bivol. That said, his camp is expecting a long lay-off and Canelo might be back somewhere in the 3rd or 4th quarter in the year 2023, but it is not guaranteed that he will face Bivol right after because his camp might give him a tune-up fight first.

As for Canelo's chances against Bivol, it's still the same and hasn't improve even a bit. It was too clear that Canelo is not built for the natural guys in the Light-heavyweight division. Bivol is his limits, he just got lucky from that Kovalev fight.

Oh.. I was unaware of this injury issue. So that means that the rematch may not happen as planned, at least not on May 2023. From what I heard, Canelo has a torn cartilage in his left wrist, and he underwent surgery to take care of that. Now this is a serious injury, and I don't really expect any action from him for Q1 and Q2 2023. And he will be in recovery and rehabilitation mode and therefore I don't expect much for Q3 2023 as well. BTW, I agree with your assessment that Canelo should stay out of Light heavyweight division.

Canelo could've activated that rematch right away after Bivol's victory as it came to light that there's a delay before the latter can participate a unification fight, but he just cannot do anything for now because of his current situation and his still on the process of recovering and under rehabilitation. Safe to assume that we may hear from Canelo's side regarding the rematch somewhere 2nd quarter next year.

BTW, I agree with your assessment that Canelo should stay out of Light heavyweight division.

He should've but now it's too late because he started the war already, it's still best to make the fight happen while he can still take advantage of the money he could get on their rematch. He doesn't have any reasons to worry anymore because he doesn't have anything to lose either.

[stadus]

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal.

Your argument though is flawed, it's easy to go up in weight than go down. We have seen boxers like Casimero having issues making his weight at 118 lbs, thus he was stripped. So that is my argument, Bivol is a natural 175 lbs, maybe can go down to 168 lbs and make the weight, but it might bring him more troubles in the fight is all I'm saying.

Let Canelo go up again in his 175 lbs, that's what Canelo is doing in the last 3 years, heck he even wants to go as high as 190 and fight to Cruiser.

So if he insist that he wants Bivol at his comfort zone, then something might not be right  and Bivol will be at a big disadvantage, all I'm saying.

A fight in 168 is so unlikely, Canelo won't even consider that because it won't give him any benefit if they will contest the fight in his division while Bivol might bite that challenge if ever because win or lose, Bivol will still retain his belt because the fight has been held at 168. But again, it's really unlikely. Canelo might activate that rematch, but it will be on 175 lbs. where he won't lose anything.

Well, yes, Canelo first forecasted Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight but there have been some changes that is why the fight didn't push through. Cannot imagine if Canelo forced his climb in CW, we saw how frustrated he was when he was defeated in LHW, what more if that happened in CW.

[chaser15]

We will hear more updates regarding to whoever Bivol will going to fight, either he will activate the rematch with Canelo in 175 or 168, all in his hands now.

I think we need to rule out already that fighting in 168 is part of Bivol's plan. If he intends to do that in the future, he should at least shows some interest in doing it. He will stay at 175 and unify all the titles there. After that, he will move up for sure.

It needs a big sacrifice to catch the weight from 175 to 168. That's not a lower division anymore. Bivol won't dive into something risky just to face Canelo. It's Canelo that needs to catch him and if he wants a piece of Bivol again, he should move up at 175.

[serjent05]

A fight in 168 is so unlikely, Canelo won't even consider that because it won't give him any benefit if they will contest the fight in his division while Bivol might bite that challenge if ever because win or lose, Bivol will still retain his belt because the fight has been held at 168. But again, it's really unlikely. Canelo might activate that rematch, but it will be on 175 lbs. where he won't lose anything.

Others may think that Canelo will have an advantage if the fight will be held at 168 lbs.  but we never know about Bivols capability when in this weight division.  He might adjust to that weight division without any problem and Canelo will be risking his titles if it goes with 168 lbs.  While, if Canelo decided to fight Bivol in light heavyweight, not only he is saving his title, he is also giving him shot for a title fight.  So I think the most wise decision is to fight Bivol at his natural weight division.  Win or lose Canelo will retain his title.

Well, yes, Canelo first forecasted Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight but there have been some changes that is why the fight didn't push through. Cannot imagine if Canelo forced his climb in CW, we saw how frustrated he was when he was defeated in LHW, what more if that happened in CW.

Yeah, I read it was his planned but then something happens that changes his mind.  I think CW is to heavy for Canelo.  

[Baofeng]

A fight in 168 is so unlikely, Canelo won't even consider that because it won't give him any benefit if they will contest the fight in his division while Bivol might bite that challenge if ever because win or lose, Bivol will still retain his belt because the fight has been held at 168. But again, it's really unlikely. Canelo might activate that rematch, but it will be on 175 lbs. where he won't lose anything.

Others may think that Canelo will have an advantage if the fight will be held at 168 lbs.  but we never know about Bivols capability when in this weight division.  He might adjust to that weight division without any problem and Canelo will be risking his titles if it goes with 168 lbs.  While, if Canelo decided to fight Bivol in light heavyweight, not only he is saving his title, he is also giving him shot for a title fight.  So I think the most wise decision is to fight Bivol at his natural weight division.  Win or lose Canelo will retain his title.

Well, yes, Canelo first forecasted Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight but there have been some changes that is why the fight didn't push through. Cannot imagine if Canelo forced his climb in CW, we saw how frustrated he was when he was defeated in LHW, what more if that happened in CW.

Yeah, I read it was his planned but then something happens that changes his mind.  I think CW is to heavy for Canelo.  

So far though we haven't heard anything about the rematch or what weight it will be, everything right now is based on our speculation.

Canelo is still recovering from his injury he suffered from the GGG fight, but he said that he is healing and maybe next year we will hear about this fight. I wanted to see them fight at LHW though, but still up to Bivol and his team whether to accept it at 168 lbs or maybe a catch weight.

[Fredomago]

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal.

Your argument though is flawed, it's easy to go up in weight than go down. We have seen boxers like Casimero having issues making his weight at 118 lbs, thus he was stripped. So that is my argument, Bivol is a natural 175 lbs, maybe can go down to 168 lbs and make the weight, but it might bring him more troubles in the fight is all I'm saying.

Let Canelo go up again in his 175 lbs, that's what Canelo is doing in the last 3 years, heck he even wants to go as high as 190 and fight to Cruiser.

So if he insist that he wants Bivol at his comfort zone, then something might not be right  and Bivol will be at a big disadvantage, all I'm saying.

A fight in 168 is so unlikely, Canelo won't even consider that because it won't give him any benefit if they will contest the fight in his division while Bivol might bite that challenge if ever because win or lose, Bivol will still retain his belt because the fight has been held at 168. But again, it's really unlikely. Canelo might activate that rematch, but it will be on 175 lbs. where he won't lose anything.

Well, yes, Canelo first forecasted Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight but there have been some changes that is why the fight didn't push through. Cannot imagine if Canelo forced his climb in CW, we saw how frustrated he was when he was defeated in LHW, what more if that happened in CW.

All now depends with Bivol's demand, once Canelo activated the rematch he will be the one who needs to adjust, Bivol have that privilege as he's the defending winner and it is Canelo who's asking for the rematch, more on Canelo's side to adjust if he really want to take his shot beating Bivol.

On the other note, Bivol is aiming to win all the belts here in his current division so if ever Canelo will not take his action, more or less Bivol will be fighting Beterbiev to unify all the belts.