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Author Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13  (Read 16002 times)
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October 22, 2022, 05:46:28 AM
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Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Naoya Inoue but just referring to the close one that will happen in the match.

Even for let's say Butler is able to beat Casimero, still it doesn't change the fact that he is nowhere within Inoue's league.

People are not underestimating Butler without a good basis.
I find it interesting that there are the other side that thinks that Butler will win against Inoue. But to those that have seen how good really is Inoue, you'll be like us who have the idea why we're thinking like that.

But it's okay to think that it could be Butler getting this match because of what you have seen as well. So, it will end up that we could be wrong or it could be you when the time comes. Although, it's not a biggie really.
It's always good to know what everyone thinks, because people who don't go to the favorite par excellence always have weighty arguments that can actually make Inoue's fight go to the ground, if Butler in one of those things, have and He comes out with the conviction of winning and makes Inoue fit into his strategy, he can do it, but why not? Butler's training that he must be undergoing must be very exhausting, he knows that he will not face any boxer, and he wants to have a high level in boxing, so these things sometimes in boxers, instead of causing them fear, cause them to be quite emotional knowing that they can make a difference against all odds.


I guess their unification fight will still happen and it's inevitable because both of them are looking forward to make their own respective legacy, although I think there will be some stalling first  and knowing Casimero, he might bark to lift the hype until their fight is official. It might be delayed but it won't last long.

If Inoue will move up, there are champions that he has to beat, Casimero is not a champ so he also needs to win more fights like Inoue's gonna do. I hope to see them fight together because Casimero has been challenging Inoue when he was still a champion, but Inoue just ignore the challenge and fight an old Donaire, I don't know if he is just playing safe or what.

The same goes for Inoue if he decides to take his skills in the next weight class, he'll start just like what others do to test the waters because aside from that, he can't bring his belts in super bantamweight. His advantage is his status and not his record, that will keep him on hype to take the champions there after just 1 fight. Casimero's situation is different, he is literally starting from scratch in-order to fight the champions, but who knows? Inoue might pick Casimero on his debut and that'll be a nice gift for the fans of both camps.

Yes, but I reckon that Inoue can bring his power, but it's better to see it in the future when he decided to move up to super bantamweight. And it only makes sense for Inoue to go up, there's no more challenge for him in 118 lbs after he defeat Butler next.

And again, he talks about the champion in the super bantam and it seems he is looking forward to move up already. While the champion are welcoming him in and they are ready to face him. Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev is ready for the Monster.

Well as you have said, I think that Inoue needs to continue his career to the top as a professional, maybe that way he will show more of what he is made of and thus not only be the king for what he has achieved so far, of course, everyone gives for winner to Inoue against Butler, but this is something that although it is sung that it will happen, there is still nothing certain, many things can happen, an injury or something similar for a boxer can change events, and with respect to Inoue level up with your weight getting heavier to face new opponents, with more options to make yourself known, I think it will draw a lot of attention.

That's the kind of liberty Inoue has, he is in the top 10 for the pound for pound ranking, so he's considered a tough challenger for any champion, and if the promoter of the champion would want to have a big fight that will also make them earn a lot of money, they should be ready fighting Inoue as Inoue is one of the most popular boxers now in the world.
i will anonymous agree that the more the fight for a popular fighter the more their money increase, so the aspect of Inoue and
Casimero, i will tell you that the both kind of fight is something that have to do with experience, because it's not all about this particular person is popular that means it is in rightful position to win everytime, i think it's a wrong conception, with what I'm seeing now  can not conclude that Casimero will defeat Inoue because of it have more fans or Inoue will defeat because of same reason.


However, for Casimero, it seems like he needs to do a hyping job again in order for him to gain the attention of the fans, and he should also consistently winning.
Hyping does not guaranteed for wining and it's very obvious, what bring wining is you new strategies which the opponents doesn't encourter before, someone people lost fight after they have been hyped and at last they lose the match.
Well, I like the approach they have here, but you have to recognize something, for me things have to increase, and have more good experiences, you have to see boxing not only as a sport that you can dominate and be top in the bets, but also in what the business model represents, we must not forget that the champions like to show off against fighters who can feel they can win, and against Inoue things have to be weighed very well because of how this boxer is , at any moment he can come out with a great blow or a combination that leaves him a little out of this world, that's Inoue's style, I think that's why he's one of the best.



Well some don't miss an opportunity, this Inoue vs. Butler fight is attracting more people, more fights, more action:

Inoue vs. Butler: Peter McGrail Lands Spot on Undercard




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Peter McGrail will have “unfinished business” on his mind when he fights on the undercard of a monster show in Japan this December.

The gifted super bantamweight has secured a place on the undercard of the undisputed world bantamweight title showdown between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler in Tokyo.

McGrail returns to Japan on December 13 ready to draw a line under the disappointment of his Olympic exit in the country last year and show the world of boxing why he remains destined for the pinnacle of the sport.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-vs-butler-peter-mcgrail-lands-spot-on-undercard--169823

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October 22, 2022, 06:09:48 AM
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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

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October 22, 2022, 06:29:42 AM
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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

Let's just wait for the result of this fight, I know we are excited to see Casimero being back again fighting champions. Also, this topic is about Butler and Inoue, though it's not an interesting fight to watch IMO but it's part of the process for Inoue to become an undisputed champion. Just like Canelo, although he move up, he was still the favorite in his first try and he lose in that fight, so nothing is certain once Inoue move up.

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October 22, 2022, 06:34:36 AM
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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

They will definitely have to meet somewhere and it could be in the next division. As we already know, Casimero is moving up to 122 pounds and will face a opponent in December, so he will have a first crack in this division and hopefully he can carry his power.

While Inoue's mission is to unify the 118 pounds, don't know when was the last time we have seen a unified champion here, but in any case this is already an accomplished in Inoue's young career and then he goes up to 122 pounds and maybe he will see Casimero finally in that weight class.

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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

They will definitely have to meet somewhere and it could be in the next division. As we already know, Casimero is moving up to 122 pounds and will face a opponent in December, so he will have a first crack in this division and hopefully he can carry his power.

While Inoue's mission is to unify the 118 pounds, don't know when was the last time we have seen a unified champion here, but in any case this is already an accomplished in Inoue's young career and then he goes up to 122 pounds and maybe he will see Casimero finally in that weight class.

I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
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October 22, 2022, 08:03:46 AM
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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

They will definitely have to meet somewhere and it could be in the next division. As we already know, Casimero is moving up to 122 pounds and will face a opponent in December, so he will have a first crack in this division and hopefully he can carry his power.

While Inoue's mission is to unify the 118 pounds, don't know when was the last time we have seen a unified champion here, but in any case this is already an accomplished in Inoue's young career and then he goes up to 122 pounds and maybe he will see Casimero finally in that weight class.

I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.

Yes mate they are destined to fight and if this fight will happen it will a big pleasure as a Filipino to fight agaist inoue  as we all know that inoue is unbeatable roght now even donaire he cant beat inoue in bill to bill fight and i don't think so if casimero will  win in this fihht but maybe he can win by unanimous decision but in KO i don't think so.

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October 22, 2022, 04:38:26 PM
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About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

Let's just wait for the result of this fight, I know we are excited to see Casimero being back again fighting champions. Also, this topic is about Butler and Inoue, though it's not an interesting fight to watch IMO but it's part of the process for Inoue to become an undisputed champion. Just like Canelo, although he move up, he was still the favorite in his first try and he lose in that fight, so nothing is certain once Inoue move up.

Yup, it's a part of the process to make Inoue's name being hype for more. It's a legacy once he collects all the belts in this division.

In terms of Casimero, we will just have to wait for his time on his new weight. who knows he can quickly
create his resume and have a good chance of challenging the champion.

Everything is possible to happen. It's just a matter of how great the fighter will show up and how the promoters
will engage the interest of the fans and the viewers.
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October 22, 2022, 05:18:31 PM
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Though it needed for him to complete the chase and hold all the belts from his current division, which is no longer far to happen,
after this fight against Butler, there's nothing more for him.
I'm not anymore thinking of this fight because I know that Inoue will just dominate Butler here.
Not the fight that we wanted to see, but here it is, Inoue's path in becoming an undisputed champion is gonna be easy,  no disrespect to Butler but that's how I see it and probably most of us.

Deciding to move up will also increase his potential benefits. What more if he will beat the champ and collect more belts
under his name.

More money to come for him as mega fights will be created if he will challenge the champions.

Exactly mate as we all know that inoue nowadays in his prime he is unbeatable not because of his technique but all in his speed and power prove that he is a monster in the world of boxing. Butler now is okay and good for me but when he fight against inoue I don't think so if he can knock down the monster and win the fight, maybe in unanimous decision he has a chance but for now I'll go for inoue as he has already prove that in the bantamweight division he is the king.

Not just in his speed and power he is called a monster, he also mastered his defensive capabilities that is why his foes in the past, including Nonito Donaire is having a hard time cracking Inoue. Even so, Inoue can withstand all of it just like nothing happen and he'll just shake everything down. He was already the king of bantamweight division from the moment he defeated Donaire.

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October 22, 2022, 05:42:48 PM
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this is obvious that it can happen, nothing is written, if Inoue feels bad that day? or he has some ailment or injury and that can affect him, I don't think Butler comes out with the intention of giving him a knockout, but rather Butler must have a good strategy to withstand all the attacks that Inoue is coming at him, this fight is going to be very good.

There's no fight yet where Inoue feels bad on that day. And there's only 1 time where Inoue struggled in his fight and that was against Nonito Donaire in their first match. He was badly beaten by Donaire in the early rounds but look at how he give the patience to regain his momentum and then finally got the unanimous win against Donaire. That's why in their rematch, he didn't let that experience happen again, and finished easily that fight.

The old Donaire can even beat Paul Butler that's why no need for any logic here that Butler can stand a chance against Naoya Inoue.

I also disagree with you that Butler does have a strategy to withstand all attacks from Inoue. That was hard to imagine believe me. He can dodge, he can avoid those punches from Inoue but to withstand it? I really have a big doubt.

Not to disrespect Butler but yes, comparing to the pinoy flash, I agree that even that old Donaire can have a chance of beating Butler,
the first match against Inoue was close but the rematch,

Donaire can't do anything as the monster dominates and knocks him down in the earlier rounds. Inoue improves a lot for sure that how
many fans and viewers use as basis, they saw that prime Inoue is far better than his upcoming opponent.

Maybe the fight against Casimero might be close if ever chances or fate allow that the two warriors
will deal it up, maybe if Casimero makes his way to have a title fight and grabs a new belt.

Well, I don't see it as disrespecting him, I think it's a very accurate analysis, I know that Butler is not in his best shape, maybe the boxer is a little distracted, but at some point he has to do things better, if he doesn't, it's likely that he'll think about quitting boxing, besides, it wouldn't be bad, when a person feels that he can't be at such a high level, he shouldn't overexert himself because it can even be dangerous, I know that Inoue has a lot of technique, and he is incredible, but despite his weight it seems that he is stronger than he really shows and this is something that must be taken into account, I think that the skill and talent are obvious in him, maybe because That's why the chances are getting smaller and smaller for Butler.

Honestly, I don't think Paul Butler will last 5 rounds. I am not sure if it's intentional for Inoue to look for knockouts unless his opponents are hurt already and he just went for the kill. But he knows that he's got power in both hands.

That will lead to low odds of Inoue winning within 5 rounds as he is known to finish his opponent in the early rounds.

We can only expect high odds on Inoue winning in late rounds but as a bettor, I would not place any bet in later rounds. It's hard to make money in this fight where the battle is between a Giant and a Small fry (Please don't take personally the word I used).

Can't wait to see the other betting options.

I checked Inoue's knockout record. 60% of his KO victories are inside 5 rounds and 75% of his KOs are inside 6 rounds. That's some crazy stats. I'd been looking as well for more markets about the fight but I still can't find any.

Anyways, I cannot wait for this fight to happen even if we see it as too one-sided. I have huge respect for Butler taking this unification fight, he is here because he is a champion and we will see what he brings.       

I just realized that Top Rank and ESPN continue to have the best fighters in boxing. Naoya Inoue, Shakur Stevenson, Vasiliy Lomachenko, Devin Haney, Teofimo Lopez, Josh Taylor, Artur Beterbiev, and Tyson Fury. Just when I thought earlier that Bob Arum is getting older, that he is losing his touch and he failed to get a hold of Crawford and Zurdo. So I thought Top Rank will die slowly. I was wrong.

Well it's interesting and it's also curious, normally a knockout should occur in the first round to demonstrate superiority, of course those statistics are very interesting, apparently they have taken into account the performance of the boxer's effort, and well this is interesting, obviously many have left because of Inoue's performance, and they put aside what Butler can do, most people don't have any faith in him, but I like to think of other ways, not everything is written, things They can happen, it hasn't happened yet but I think it could be a good surprise, maybe they say that I think wrong or it's that I have a lot of hope, but why not?


Actually, a knockout is totally possible to happen within that range and to put it on perspective, all of the four range options have 25% chances of win and it's really hard to predict where will Inoue finish the fight. Anyway, my point is that Butler totally knows that he can't do much in this fight to give Inoue some hard time and having said that, he might try to survive as long as he can because engaging a toe-to-toe fight won't benefit him. That is why for me, round 4-6 is the best option.

The 6 round range is something that can happen, but as I said before, do you think Butler can get beaten that easily? With all the time that has passed, I know that Butler has prepared himself a lot, and he has seen the news, sees the probabilities and all those statistics. For me, Butler is one of the boxers who should have the clearest Inoue statistics, I am sure that He doesn't want to get into that rank of those who have been knocked out, of course it's just a guess, but I think that in this fight they will reach the 12th round and if Butler applies a security strategy, the Japanese will try to get out of it.

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October 23, 2022, 04:35:01 AM
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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.
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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

Their bout was canceled due to the pandemic, however, when the pandemic was already over, Inoue did not give Casimero a chance to make the fight happen. Fans were disappointed with what happened as we are supposed to see a big fight but it was not realized.

The closest chance they'll meet in the ring was when Casimero was still a champ, but I don't know, maybe Inoue's promoter prevented that from happening. Actually, Inoue could choose to unify with Casimero first instead of choosing Donaire.

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October 24, 2022, 11:55:18 AM
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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

His age as well, he is already 32 years old and I would say lost at least a year because of his weight and other personal issues and wrong decision in his career. Maybe he was really carried away when he become a champion and then started winning and started to get a lot of fans.

I guess we can't disagree with the way he was stripped, it was his second time already. The first time he was given the benefit of the doubt by the WBO with stern warning. But in the supposedly second fight, he was caught by BBBoC and obviously he was still overweight and trying to get that excess pounds near the fight date.
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October 24, 2022, 12:25:19 PM
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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

Their bout was canceled due to the pandemic, however, when the pandemic was already over, Inoue did not give Casimero a chance to make the fight happen. Fans were disappointed with what happened as we are supposed to see a big fight but it was not realized.

The closest chance they'll meet in the ring was when Casimero was still a champ, but I don't know, maybe Inoue's promoter prevented that from happening. Actually, Inoue could choose to unify with Casimero first instead of choosing Donaire.

Now, such fight is far from happening as Casimero has no more belts to boast for.
And as he is in the new weight division, let's see if they will still cross their path.
A lot are saying that Inoue was really scared of Casimero, but I don't think that was the real deal before.
If only the fight happened, we should have known now the level of Casimero as compared to Inoue.
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October 24, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
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I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

His age as well, he is already 32 years old and I would say lost at least a year because of his weight and other personal issues and wrong decision in his career. Maybe he was really carried away when he become a champion and then started winning and started to get a lot of fans.

I guess we can't disagree with the way he was stripped, it was his second time already. The first time he was given the benefit of the doubt by the WBO with stern warning. But in the supposedly second fight, he was caught by BBBoC and obviously he was still overweight and trying to get that excess pounds near the fight date.

He was given that consideration to maintain his belt and workout with his weight, but instead of doing his best to train and diet, he decided
to take the shortcut by doing the sauna, which is not permitted by the organization.

I'm sure if he kept his belt, Inoue is already willing to fight him after Donaire. The monster is eager to take all the belt from this division and
that's why we will going to witness the fight with Butler.

Inoue wants all the belts under his name maybe before moving to another division and try if he can also dominate from that new class division.
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October 24, 2022, 02:46:25 PM
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Bantamweight is the division where he is dominating, and if he will win his next fight and will try to move up, that's the time we will see if Inoue can still carry his power and speed in a higher division. He is very popular now because of his high KO rate, but there's a huge challenge waiting for him, and as a fan, that makes us excited to find out if he can still succeed.

Yes mate there many big fights waiting for him in the higher division in the world of boxing but I think if inoue want to fight in higher weight then the chances of winning are getting smaller. As we all know that in the higher division, strength and power are bases to win the fight. but if even inoue rise his weight and the power and speed are there for him then he can win because the more his speed getting quicklier the more chance he win.

Interesting big fights are waiting for him in the super-bantamweight division, it will be a challenge for him for sure because the champions in that division are also talented and skillful enough to give Inoue some hardships, but we will see that soon enough if he will declare his climb after this undisputed fight. But I think his chances aren't that much affected because it's just a 4 pounds difference from the bantamweight, he can still bring his speed and talent in that division. Anyway, as I said, we will see it soon.

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October 24, 2022, 11:05:26 PM
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Interesting big fights are waiting for him in the super-bantamweight division,

Stephen Fulton shows interest in facing Inoue soon once the latter decides to move up. There's also another champion there, Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

Maybe Fulton against Akhmadaliev unification fight will happen first before Inoue's name will be involved in these two.

That was interesting to see but the recent statement by Bob Arum, Inoue's promoter, might spoil the excitement of everybody if ever Inoue decided to move up:
“I mean, I’d love to do that fight. But, it’s cruel and inhumane punishment to ask anybody to fight Inoue.”

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October 24, 2022, 11:37:39 PM
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Inoue wants all the belts under his name maybe before moving to another division and try if he can also dominate from that new class division.

After dominating the 118 lbs once he won against Paul Butler, there should be no problem for him with 122 lbs as the weight difference is not much. I think he can even match with those champions. I'm positive that another Asian will dominate again several multiple divisions this time because of Inoue. I hoped he will stay healthy all along.

The only problem is, he is not fighting outside his home country. He is always backed up by his people. He needs to get out of that comfort zone as in terms of strength, he really has that and no problem with it.
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October 24, 2022, 11:57:00 PM
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Interesting big fights are waiting for him in the super-bantamweight division, it will be a challenge for him for sure because the champions in that division are also talented and skillful enough to give Inoue some hardships,

That's what everyone was waiting for because Inoue didn't really experience a tough match here in the Bantamweight and the only fight he struggle is against their first match with Nonito Donaire but still ended up winning the match. We want to see Inoue facing boxers that can somehow match him and I hoped he will move up weight after becoming the undisputed bantamweight champion.

Inoue might likely face a champion right away once he moved up.

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October 24, 2022, 11:58:36 PM
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I'm sure if he kept his belt, Inoue is already willing to fight him after Donaire. The monster is eager to take all the belt from this division and
that's why we will going to witness the fight with Butler.

That's for sure. I don't even know why everyone claiming that Inoue is afraid of Inoue.

If Casimero just do the right way, he should be the one here and not Paul Butler.

But still, I will favor Inoue to win that match if ever Casimero is his opponent here. It's just that we will be entertained more to fight Casimero against Inoue than Paul Butler as the gap between Butler and Inoue is really huge.
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