[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[Natalim]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

[Pamadar]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

Yeah right! Only those avid fans who have lots of money to spare for Butler, Inoue's chance to win is huge.

I'm not sure but most of the review, if not all, are favoring Inoue and we are seeing that reflecting from how bookies provide
the odds between the two fighters.

If there's someone who will take Butler here, it might be a fan of upset and huge potential profits. They've got their reason
in taking an underdog bet.

[coinerer]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

I agree with you . Those who bet on Butler are either greedy for high returns or they don't understand boxing very enough .However, there are many exceptions in the game, so there is no 100% guarantee that Paul will win. But his chances of winning are very high.  And those who watch his fighting will definitely back Paul and not decide to bet against Paul. I myself like Paul's fighting a lot

[Sanitough]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

I agree with you . Those who bet on Butler are either greedy for high returns or they don't understand boxing very enough .However, there are many exceptions in the game, so there is no 100% guarantee that Paul will win. But his chances of winning are very high.  And those who watch his fighting will definitely back Paul and not decide to bet against Paul. I myself like Paul's fighting a lot

There's nothing wrong on betting for Butler to win, it's just like you are betting in a lottery, and who knows, this is boxing, anyone can win and upset does happen sometimes. Butler is also a champion, unfortunately people see him as inferior than Inoue, so bookies are just doing their job.

[stadus]

I really don't think that Inoue is going to beat Butler by a knockout, it's like something very terrifying for Butler, although it is very possible because the possibilities are present in them, many things can happen, among them they can be taken into account that they last All the Rounds and that the decision be unanimous, but Butler would be showing that he is a boxer who resisted one of the best there is today, this is something that must be recognized, and he could even have the right to a good rematch

I don't understand some parts of your post but I'm amazed that there are still a few thinks that Butler will survive the 12 rounds against Inoue.

It might happen and that's possible but in my observation and analysis I will rule out that from happening.

However, I would think that everything could happen in the term of not finishing the rounds but with a possible knockout, and the other option is that Butler comes out, surprises Inoue and ends the fight winning.

I will also ruled out the possibility of Butler winning the fight at the end. I can't even say such things and no offense to Butler's followers.

We just have to wait on the day of the fight to see if there will be an upset win or if the monster will just do his monster thing.

Right! I'm also happy to see that there's someone here who believes that Butler have a good and fair chance in defeating the monster of Japan, Naoya Inoue. However, I will be also among the first ones who will break that statement because no offense to Butler's fans/believers out there, saying that Butler has a good chance is quite seriously an overstatement, why? Look at his recent fight against Jonas Sultan who is the replacement of Casimero, he just barely won that fight. Casimero could have destroyed this Baby Faced Assassin but the latter had an easy journey towards the unification fight against Inoue. That is why I really don't believe that Paul Butler have a decent chance against Inoue.

And the odds as well by crypto sports bookies, they know that Butler has a slim chance to win against the Monster. Yes, there could be upset, but it's the question on whether Butler has the tools, which we see that he didn't have because he even had a hard time against Jonas Sultan. And we believed if that is Casimero, then maybe it could be a different outcome (sorry for bringing the name of Casimero again, but it's a good comparison). So for backers of Butler here, best of luck.

That is already expected because Paul Butler's strength and skills is nowhere near Inoue's caliber, might be sad for Butler believers here in this forum but that is the reality and speaking of chances, Butler have none to slim. I don't mean to underestimate him but it's really hard to imagine that Butler have a fair chance against Inoue, that's why Butler's odds are so juicy but they ain't worth it.

[BitcoinPanther]

That is already expected because Paul Butler's strength and skills is nowhere near Inoue's caliber, might be sad for Butler believers here in this forum but that is the reality and speaking of chances, Butler have none to slim. I don't mean to underestimate him but it's really hard to imagine that Butler have a fair chance against Inoue, that's why Butler's odds are so juicy but they ain't worth it.

As much as we agree about the superiority of Inoue we still can't forget the fact that Butler is more likely preparing his best for this fight.  Even though he is greatly unfavored in this fight, the supposed to be slim to no chance of winning can turn into a victory of all.  Likewise in people hitting lottery jackpot that despite of 1/1m+ chance of winning people still hit the jackpot.  So basically those who will bet on Butler is looking forward for this chance.

There's nothing wrong on betting for Butler to win, it's just like you are betting in a lottery, and who knows, this is boxing, anyone can win and upset does happen sometimes. Butler is also a champion, unfortunately people see him as inferior than Inoue, so bookies are just doing their job.

True, but boxing somehow works different from lottery.  If Butler can withstand Inoue's punches and is able to not only survive the entire fight but be able to outbox Inoue every round and happen to win, those who bet for him will definitely get huge wins.  Besides Butler having known that Inoue is better, he will definitely train hard to at least mend his shortcomings.

[LUCKMCFLY]

About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.

And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.

Well for me it would be something great, because seeing Casimero that one of the greatest in his category arrives and that he can mark an era from then on with another, that is something that can happen as it is for many, I understand that Casimero is one of the best, but Inoue if he decides to move to a higher weight category, at least for me it will be a big step, because he is already at a level where almost no boxer can reach him, for me Inoue what he needs is more fame, it is more encounters with other world iconic boxers, because he has achieved a lot, if he changes category his level as a boxer will have increased, and I think his income per fight would be from another world.

We know that its business and for those handlers or promoters then they would be normally be doing up their best on maximizing out possible profits into those very common obvious ways.They do have the rights whether
for a certain fight to be pushed on or would be redirected into other fights which they could potentially or do sees that it could sold out ppvs and gym tickets or whatsoever in connected to that.

I agree. There's a chance that Inoue might lose if they will push a fight against the champions already.

The best way to milk some money for him is to have him fight first those boxers on the super bantamweight, maybe those in the Top 5 will do.

But at the time Inoue now has a chance to fight those champions, I hope that time, it's still Fulton or Akhmadaliev holding the titles.

It will be interesting to see how Inoue decides to manage his career if he beats Butler, both Canelo and Usyk decided to go for a title fight immediately after getting the undisputed and they got completely different results, Inoue seems to be convinced that he will do well and if he is right about his self-examination then it makes sense to try to get a title immediately as this will make him more money over the long run.

Hard to compare though, I guess Canelo being the pound for pound has it's perks has he was given the chance to fight for the 175 lbs belt.

So not sure if the organizations are going to do that with Inoue as well once he beat Butler. Maybe he will opt to get a tune up fight to get a feel of the 122 lbs. Or if he insists and given the opportunity, then Fulton could be his next opponent and definitely it will be a banger fight for us fans. Fulton has also expressed the same that he is willing to put his title in the line against the Monster.

Something that fans will really love to see if Arum will negotiate once Inoue beats Butler. It will be a good test for both fighters if ever
that Inoue decided to move up.

The division champ is willing to stake his belt if ever Inoue call for the challenge, in some instance it will engage more fans especially
those who already impress by Inoue, moving up is something that they will expect.

He already dominated the current division seeing him in the place outside from his comfort zone give more credit to his career.

Wow, the truth is that this is something that is very exciting, because the future that will come to Inoue is very big, for me he will be one of the boxers who will have the most to talk about in the event that he defeats Butler, I think that many agree that The Japanese will win, but as a good fighter, I would not trust myself, Butler can be somewhat unreliable for some in terms of a bet, but if Butler will face him we cannot forget everything that is at stake for him, it is obvious that Butler will come out with everything and I don't think he will save anything, for me he will come out with an intense hunger, he can be catapulted to the top of the heights if he manages to beat Inoue.

[Silberman]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

The problem for Butler and their fans is that Inoue is a very complete fighter, the guy has great punching power, stamina, technique and he is on his prime, so there are not many chances for Butler to win the fight, he will need something similar to what we saw in the Ruiz vs Joshua fight, in which Ruiz not only put down Joshua but he punched him behind the ear and this put Joshua in a bad condition for the rest of the fight, but such a thing will not be easy at all.

[Pamadar]

About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.

And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.

Well for me it would be something great, because seeing Casimero that one of the greatest in his category arrives and that he can mark an era from then on with another, that is something that can happen as it is for many, I understand that Casimero is one of the best, but Inoue if he decides to move to a higher weight category, at least for me it will be a big step, because he is already at a level where almost no boxer can reach him, for me Inoue what he needs is more fame, it is more encounters with other world iconic boxers, because he has achieved a lot, if he changes category his level as a boxer will have increased, and I think his income per fight would be from another world.

For both Casimero and Inoue, moving to the next division gives them opportunities to bring their skills to the next level,

And like you said, if both succeed it will be add more fame to their careers. For now, they are not
in the same position, Casimero will start from the scratch moving up to this division, while Inoue if
decide to move up. He has that advantage to shortcut his way and challenge the defending champ
from this new division.

[Yamifoud]

About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.

And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.

Well for me it would be something great, because seeing Casimero that one of the greatest in his category arrives and that he can mark an era from then on with another, that is something that can happen as it is for many, I understand that Casimero is one of the best, but Inoue if he decides to move to a higher weight category, at least for me it will be a big step, because he is already at a level where almost no boxer can reach him, for me Inoue what he needs is more fame, it is more encounters with other world iconic boxers, because he has achieved a lot, if he changes category his level as a boxer will have increased, and I think his income per fight would be from another world.

For both Casimero and Inoue, moving to the next division gives them opportunities to bring their skills to the next level,

And like you said, if both succeed it will be add more fame to their careers. For now, they are not
in the same position, Casimero will start from the scratch moving up to this division, while Inoue if
decide to move up. He has that advantage to shortcut his way and challenge the defending champ
from this new division.

They'll meet soon as long as Casimero will start winning his fights, eventually, he will become the top contender and of course, Inoue will be on his way. Who knows, we might see a fight between them though not a championship fight, I think INoue would be okay with that as no belt is at stake.

[Sanitough]

There's nothing wrong on betting for Butler to win, it's just like you are betting in a lottery, and who knows, this is boxing, anyone can win and upset does happen sometimes. Butler is also a champion, unfortunately people see him as inferior than Inoue, so bookies are just doing their job.

True, but boxing somehow works different from lottery.  If Butler can withstand Inoue's punches and is able to not only survive the entire fight but be able to outbox Inoue every round and happen to win, those who bet for him will definitely get huge wins.  Besides Butler having known that Inoue is better, he will definitely train hard to at least mend his shortcomings.

Somehow different but either way it's just like you're betting in a lottery and as long as Inoue is not yet announced as the winner then Paul Butler still do have a chance. It might take a one lucky punch or miracle but a chance is a chance, no matter how slim it is. We never know mate because Butler here may write a history who pulls the biggest upset in the boxing history.

[Vaculin]

Bob Arum won't do that for sure even if the market is too good for both promoters if Inoue will go straight to the champions, either Fulton or Murodjon. There's a lot of undefeated boxers on the super-bantam division that will be good for Inoue in his first fight, testing the waters first will be the best option, there's no need to hurry even if Inoue have a good chance against these guys.

Since Naoya Inoue is currently prime, he can generate more money by fighting other boxers in the meantime instead of going against directly the champions. Like what happened to Pacquiao during his prime and being managed by Bob Arum, there are fights of his that give disappointment fans but in return, still always produced sold-out tickets and PPV. As we know Arum, he will maximize what Inoue can bring before considering him to fight for the title match.

From what I see if ever Inoue will moved up, he will have 2-3 non-title fights first then after that, a title match will be next.

Yes, at least 2 non-title fights but that might be against the heavy tiers in this division before he moves up and fight either one of the two current champions in super-bantamweight. That is already expected because Bob Arum is taking some extra precautions just to make sure that Inoue will maintain his status for a while. Classic Bob Arum moves.

[chaser15]

Yes, at least 2 non-title fights but that might be against the heavy tiers in this division before he moves up and fight either one of the two current champions in super-bantamweight. That is already expected because Bob Arum is taking some extra precautions just to make sure that Inoue will maintain his status for a while. Classic Bob Arum moves.

That might be the closest thing that might happen. Arum should fully prepare his cash cow before directly going against the SuperBantamweight Champions. There's also a possibility that Inoue might not face the current champions there if ever those will fail to defend their respective titles on the way.

Surely while Inoue is facing first those boxers on the top rank at the SuperBantamweight, both Fulton and Murodjon also have their respective fights. I hope all of them will won their future fight so that we can them fighting at each other soon.

[agustina2]

Somehow different but either way it's just like you're betting in a lottery and as long as Inoue is not yet announced as the winner then Paul Butler still do have a chance. It might take a one lucky punch or miracle but a chance is a chance, no matter how slim it is. We never know mate because Butler here may write a history who pulls the biggest upset in the boxing history.

Butler might find a lucky opening but if that punch he will make from that lucky opening is enough to take down Inoue, that's the question. Inoue's built is really tough and even though Donaire was able to injure him badly on their first meeting, Inoue still recovers and takes the unanimous win.

There's no bantamweight boxer right now that can be injured again Inoue aside from Donaire. Donaire can even take Butler without a problem.

This is really a landslide victory for Inoue without a doubt.

[harizen]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

I even think that even a solid fan of Paul Butler will not risk a decent amount of money betting on him. They just there supporting Butler but they understand the wide distance between him and Naoya Inoue and already accept the closest thing that will happen on the day of the fight.

Again, no offense to Butler fans but as a bettor, being a fan should sometimes be disregarded as we can't compare this fight to other fights that an underdog has a chance to upset the favorite. I don't see any way that Butler can upset a 100% healthy Inoue.

[milewilda]

..... but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

We cant really ignore nor deny that there are people who are fans of Butler that would really be betting on him even though it is already that too obvious on whose gonna win.They do still show up some support
(speaking about fans) but for those sports bettor who do make out some analysis then it would be impossible that you would really be choosing Butler against Inoue.We arent that blind on not to see the
differences when it comes on how these 2 boxers fight.

Bulter 34(15KO)   2L   0D
Inoue 23(20KO)   0L   0D

There might be some differences when it comes to experience but 10 fights ahead isnt something that you could
really make yourself confident that you could deal off with a prime Inoue or simply this rising star.

[BitcoinPanther]

The problem for Butler and their fans is that Inoue is a very complete fighter, the guy has great punching power, stamina, technique and he is on his prime, so there are not many chances for Butler to win the fight, he will need something similar to what we saw in the Ruiz vs Joshua fight, in which Ruiz not only put down Joshua but he punched him behind the ear and this put Joshua in a bad condition for the rest of the fight, but such a thing will not be easy at all.

Aside from that, Butler also need to have enough punching power to overcome the punch absorbing power of Inoue to make him in a bad state after hitting that part of the head.  So it is really hard to execute that thing.

We cant really ignore nor deny that there are people who are fans of Butler that would really be betting on him even though it is already that too obvious on whose gonna win.They do still show up some support
(speaking about fans) but for those sports bettor who do make out some analysis then it would be impossible that you would really be choosing Butler against Inoue.We arent that blind on not to see the
differences when it comes on how these 2 boxers fight.

Bulter 34(15KO)   2L   0D
Inoue 23(20KO)   0L   0D

There might be some differences when it comes to experience but 10 fights ahead isnt something that you could
really make yourself confident that you could deal off with a prime Inoue or simply this rising star.

And 1 of those 2 loses is coming from a knockdown.  An uppercut from Tete made Butler kiss the canvas.  So it is highlly possible that Butler will get KOed in this fight.  Analyst will surely pick Inoue but gamblers who love more profit will try their chance to win with Butler.

[Japinat]

Somehow different but either way it's just like you're betting in a lottery and as long as Inoue is not yet announced as the winner then Paul Butler still do have a chance. It might take a one lucky punch or miracle but a chance is a chance, no matter how slim it is. We never know mate because Butler here may write a history who pulls the biggest upset in the boxing history.

Butler might find a lucky opening but if that punch he will make from that lucky opening is enough to take down Inoue, that's the question. Inoue's built is really tough and even though Donaire was able to injure him badly on their first meeting, Inoue still recovers and takes the unanimous win.

There's no bantamweight boxer right now that can be injured again Inoue aside from Donaire. Donaire can even take Butler without a problem.

This is really a landslide victory for Inoue without a doubt.

This is just too unfortunate for Butler because it is really hard to imagine that he can upset Inoue, even Donaire haven't managed to do and destroy the monster's armor during their 2nd encounter, how much more if it's Paul Butler. It will take a miracle to take that punch that will defeat Inoue but that is so unlikely to happen here. This is not to underestimate Butler but it is what it is.

[Vaculin]

Yes, at least 2 non-title fights but that might be against the heavy tiers in this division before he moves up and fight either one of the two current champions in super-bantamweight. That is already expected because Bob Arum is taking some extra precautions just to make sure that Inoue will maintain his status for a while. Classic Bob Arum moves.

That might be the closest thing that might happen. Arum should fully prepare his cash cow before directly going against the SuperBantamweight Champions. There's also a possibility that Inoue might not face the current champions there if ever those will fail to defend their respective titles on the way.

Surely while Inoue is facing first those boxers on the top rank at the SuperBantamweight, both Fulton and Murodjon also have their respective fights. I hope all of them will won their future fight so that we can them fighting at each other soon.

Well, I can somehow say that the current Inoue is fully prepared to begin a war to the existing champions in super-bantam and I'm sure that these champions are now kind of sweating because they know Inoue's capability, and that he is not an easy opponent to face. But to be safe, Bob will just give Inoue a non-title fights just to test the water.
Also, I do think that Inoue's power won't be affected because the weight difference from bantam to super-bantam is not that really far. IIRC, the difference is just 4-5 pounds.

[Baofeng]

Yes, at least 2 non-title fights but that might be against the heavy tiers in this division before he moves up and fight either one of the two current champions in super-bantamweight. That is already expected because Bob Arum is taking some extra precautions just to make sure that Inoue will maintain his status for a while. Classic Bob Arum moves.

That might be the closest thing that might happen. Arum should fully prepare his cash cow before directly going against the SuperBantamweight Champions. There's also a possibility that Inoue might not face the current champions there if ever those will fail to defend their respective titles on the way.

Surely while Inoue is facing first those boxers on the top rank at the SuperBantamweight, both Fulton and Murodjon also have their respective fights. I hope all of them will won their future fight so that we can them fighting at each other soon.

Well, I can somehow say that the current Inoue is fully prepared to begin a war to the existing champions in super-bantam and I'm sure that these champions are now kind of sweating because they know Inoue's capability, and that he is not an easy opponent to face. But to be safe, Bob will just give Inoue a non-title fights just to test the water.
Also, I do think that Inoue's power won't be affected because the weight difference from bantam to super-bantam is not that really far. IIRC, the difference is just 4-5 pounds.

They might be sweating, but it seems that they are ready, at least the 2 mentioned champions and willing to go to war against Inoue.

For sure Bob Arum knows when and how Inoue's next fight if he decided to go to 122 lbs. Arum has already the blueprint, after all he has mastermind the career of Manny Pacquiao. Maybe they will target first the weakest amongst the champion and then get the belt one by one.

So it will be interesting him against Fulton, I think that will be the best fight for him.