1 - The copycat epidemic within crypto casinos.

[ndumm]

This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

TL;DR - if you want to go up against the king, you should probably be better than them in some way.

Full disclaimer ahead of time: my team and I are in the process of building a crypto casino. Most of us are relatively new entrants to this particular space; our expertise lies in crypto, influencers and sportsbooks which all have aspects of similarity but I fully acknowledge there are some industry specific details that I may be overlooking.


For the past few months, I’ve been keeping a very close eye on crypto casinos. Very rarely will a new platform or feature come out that we didn’t have some idea of ahead of time, and I could probably name every single platform worth knowing and their full feature set with my eyes closed. Through this obsession, it’s become extremely apparent that differentiation is a massive missing piece in the crypto casino puzzle.

To give context as to why this is occurring, this is an industry where taking risks can be difficult. A lot of people will comment on regulation within the space, but there are still frameworks that need to be abided by - these frameworks affect what products you can offer, who you can offer to, and various details around accepting funds. As well as that, a lot of the times you really don’t need to differentiate to produce decent revenue. Gamdom and Duelbits are good examples of this. It’s hard to point to any degree of actual differentiation, yet they’re still making a considerable amount of money (from what we’ve observed).

To some degree, benefit of the doubt can be awarded to a few competitors who are trying various things but retain similarity to Stake. Rollbit seem like they’re trying to pivot more to short-dated, highly leveraged crypto derivatives, and their NFT jackpot and Rollbot schemes are interesting at the very least. BC.Game do a lot, they’re targeting a very specific audience and seem to be doing very well at that.

In saying that, some things cannot be excused. An easy example is Punt.com - I’m not going to rip into them too hard, but calling that anything other than a carbon copy of Stake is insane. Punt has claimed to have guidance from their ‘close friend’ Eddie at Stake, but to some extent I doubt the validity of that. Another example is Slotella; all you need to do is look at their logo.

Stake does a lot of things well, and they’re not the biggest in the market for no reason. Making ‘provably fair’ the standard for house games, the design of their gamecards (props to whoever came up with that Stunna), a simple but thoughtful interface. Stake have built a very good basis for inspiration that I can’t fault people for modelling their own sites off - however if it’s anything but inspiration, there’s really not a tonne of respect you can give.

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I don’t know if many of you were trading on BitMEX back in the glory days of 100x leverage, but this is not an uncommon thing to occur in a super fast-moving industry. BitMEX were one of the first to really do crypto derivatives properly, and as a result they very quickly became the king within that space - platforms were popping up left and right trying to do what BitMEX did, some even blatantly stealing entire pages full of MEX’s copy on how the derivatives were structured. Unfortunately for them, BitMEX *invented* these products; any competitor that was a mere copy (Deribit, ByBit, Bitmax) struggled to gain footing on the scale that MEX was. Why would someone leave BitMEX for a shittier alternative?

As you can see today, BitMEX has well and truly fallen off. The issue is that through all of the platforms that popped up, one team launched an exchange that seemed to tick a lot of the boxes that BitMEX couldn’t. FTX. Backed by some of the biggest names in the space, with some of the smartest people working on it, with a product that was made very precisely around the actual behaviours of a trader. At face value though, it seemed like they had a platform that could be slotted in the exact same basket as all the others.

BitMEX retained complacency, FTX continued building to what it is today, the rest is history.

Whilst this might seem to be a totally unrelated story about companies within a different sector, the same principles can be applied to the crypto casino industry. You have one, massive incumbent who innovated a lot of what we see today (Stake); multiple competitors who hold a small but notionally considerable percentage of the market (Duelbits, Gamdom, Roobet, etc); a rapidly evolving space with huge potential upside. The only thing that’s missing is the competitor that will finally give Stake a run for its money.

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At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.


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[Kakmakr]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

[UserU]

In the end, a casino is simply a casino. What makes it stand out is mainly the games it offers and the bonuses provided. But still, they share many of the game providers, rakeback structure, etc.

After all, players want the best bang for their buck, not just winning what they wagered. So saying X is the best, and such is pretty much subjective because they excel in different areas. Casino A could be holding frequent giveaways, casino B could be generous with affiliate commissions, just saying.

Those that want to pioneer in something new need to risk their funds. If all is fine and dandy, good but what happens when the market goes south like now? Many NFTs have lost their ATH value. Rollbit's fortunate they have the financial strength to commit, but for the rest, they might not.

Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Moreover, there will always be room for competition in every field/market, of which the gambling casino industry is not left out, because in as much as most new casinos now copy the features and style of old existing casinos, there will always be only one who offers the satisfactory delivery to it's targeted customers/gamblers at every moment. And the users knows that and they are going to stick to such casino. Because one thing that will make a casino stand out in the midst of others is it's ability to update according to the request of it's gamblers, give them what they want, how they want it and when they want it on time. So i am personally not against copycat

[swogerino]

As you already said it yourself in the beginning if you are up against the king you should be better in some way compared to them.To achieve it you need a lot of time and study,you can study each big reputable casino and what they offer and after you have made your conclusion you can come up with your plan.It should be a simple plan that your casino to offer the best to the players,from the user interface to the variety and huge number of games together with the best promotions.In order to do this you need a huge budget since you want to fight against the king and be somewhat better than them.

[Mauser]

Welcome to the forum, it's nice to see a new casino being developed and will use this forum to promote it services for the crypto community. This shows again how popular our forum is for crypto users. You are right that there has been a rise of crypto casinos over the years and the market has become very competitive. There are basically two ways for a new casino to acquire marketshares. The first one is by offering something new that other casinos don't offer, this could be new games, better service or other feature. The second way is by offering better terms than existing casinos. If there are higher bonuses or higher chances of winning for the gamblers than it will attract a lot new customers. In both cases its important to run a marketing campaign to inform potential customers of the advantages of your casino. The forum can play a big role to promote a new website and new gambling games. Good luck with your casino and I hope you will keep us updated on the progress. If you need any help there are a lot of freelance workers offering their services here on the forum, with many already worked in the gambling industry before.

[robelneo]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

I think I have to agree with Eddie, the biggest compliment is imitation, but they can only imitate the design or part of the concept but what will separate the leaders from a copy is the reputation they've established and the name the gamblers can associate themselves, ok let's say you are playing in Stake.com, and you sign up and play on a casino that copies Stake.com you will still feel that you are on Stake but you will not feel that you are comfortable playing on imitated casino, because you cannot just give trust to a new casino, just like you gave to a casino that you've played for a long time.

[Saint-loup]

Thank you for your interesting post but I didn't really understand your point. Do you think those copycats are a good thing or a bad one for the players/customers at the end?
If Stake doesn't respect its customers or scams them, it will get a bad reputation and people will fly away to its close competitors. But if it takes care to remain honest, respectful, transparent and professional toward its customers, there is no point for them to leave it for a copycat casino offering the same features and the same games/markets with less bonuses and promotions or smaller odds and RTP, while they have maybe an already high ranked account with interesting bonuses there.  

Regarding Bitmex, Arthur Hayes already admitted he didn't invent the main product of Bitmex, the Inverse futures (aka crypto futures).

We live in a US Dollar global currency regime. That is equally true for the crypto capital markets. While Bitcoin is the reserve asset of crypto, it is most commonly valued against the USD. To be truly intellectually honest we should value Bitcoin against the representation of the energy it takes to produce blocks every 10 minutes (e.g., Bitcoin vs. Joules, kwH, a barrel of oil, etc.) but we don’t— and the most common way to obtain Bitcoin is not to tender energy, but fiat currency.

Bitcoin miners need fiat to pay electricity bills, and speculators bring fiat to obtain Bitcoin. Both sides meet on the exchange, and magic happens. The big issue is that spot exchanges rely on banking partners to allow fiat into and out of the exchange. Without a reliable bank, the exchange cannot conduct its business.

When ICBIT started the Bitcoin derivatives markets, it made a crucially important decision to settle margin, profit, and loss in Bitcoin only. This is unusual, as most FX derivatives – in order to have a linear payoff curve – will settle in the unit of the foreign currency.

EUR/USD
Home Currency = EUR
Foreign Currency = USD

If I buy 1 EUR at EUR/USD = 1, and then sell 1 EUR at EUR/USD = 2, I make 1 USD. It’s very easy to conceptually understand. I post margin in USD, I receive my profit in USD. Wham, bam, thank you ma’am.

Instead, ICBIT used an inverse structure where the contract settled in units of the home currency. For BTC/USD the home currency is BTC, and this means the contract behaves in a non-linear fashion.

Bitcoin Contract Value = 1 / P

P is the price of BTC/USD

https://blog.bitmex.com/all-aboard/

[romero121]

With gambling platforms beyond certain point it isn't possible to innovate things. Maybe the interface and the colour schemes can be varied. In that way everything is a copycat. With different games, maybe the providers can vary. With sports betting, the odds can have slight variation. These days the success of the gambling sites were much on the trust it have got and the support and interest the service provider takes in solving an acquisition against the platform. So, even the copycat can succeed if it is able to provide the best service than the Originals.

[Bitinity]

Thank you for your interesting post but I didn't really understand your point. Do you think those copycats are a good thing or a bad one for the players/customers at the end?

Good question and I am gonna give my opinion regarding this. For me as a player, it is both good and bad. It is good because it is easier for me to explore the new site because I'm familiar with the older site and maybe I do not need to ask many thing first if the new site is like 90% or more similar to the older site. It is bad because it will be boring to see some different sites but looks almost the same and it may confuse me in the future. It is possible that I may play in the wrong place because of the similarity. All in all, copying other casino 90-100% is not really good because most people will think that the site is not having much efforts to have their own style.

[ultrloa]

With gambling platforms beyond certain point it isn't possible to innovate things. Maybe the interface and the colour schemes can be varied. In that way everything is a copycat. With different games, maybe the providers can vary. With sports betting, the odds can have slight variation. These days the success of the gambling sites were much on the trust it have got and the support and interest the service provider takes in solving an acquisition against the platform. So, even the copycat can succeed if it is able to provide the best service than the Originals.

Many of them just recreate what common people use or they see succeed because they want to replicate what success gotten by the one they copied this is the reason why we mostly seen casino offered almost the same games with other. But it will all vary depends on how the casino perform and how they put some efforts on marketing, then putting active guys to solve problem which is main concern by almost all of us since this one could give them one step to success.

[Oshosondy]

In 2014 when I started to gamble, I see many sites that in my country that copied one another, It was funny enough to the extent that some sites in the neighboring countries are also copying the gambling site in my country, especially they have almost similar layout for their lite version. They were all copying the first existing gambling site in my country. What I liked about the first gambling site is that in 2016 or so, the first gambling site changed his site layout entirely and still it is one of the best gambling site in my country up till now, but there are other gambling sites that do not copy the site, even the gambling site with the highest customers today in my country did not copy the gambling site, while others that first copied it are also having more customers daily and some are changing the layout of their site already.

The issue starts from the developers that depend to first use an already made source codes, but with time, as the gambling sites are getting stronger, all these will change.

[coin-investor]

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

I don't know how did you arrive at the conclusion that there is a lack of competition in the gambling industry, casinos are spending money on ads, and signature campaigns and giving a good percentage to affiliates, they are paying streamers and hiring ambassadors to promote their platform and this is million of dollars spent, I keep saying that the casino industry has stiff competition and there's really a stiff competition going on they never stop giving perks to their VIP or high rollers just to keep them playing int heir casino and shut out other casinos, even if there is the similarity of design and concept the competition is always there.

[Porfirii]

When the innovation is not a differential factor, the revenue has to be earned via advertisement, referral programs, etc. That's why we can see the current situation of aggressive advertising between not just the leading betting companies, but from the newer ones that want to become a benchmark in the industry.

It is much easier to copy the mechanisms, layout, etc... than to create a new one from scratch. This way, all the efforts can be focused on marketing actions that make them reach a growing target audience.

[Gozie51]

Basically most gambling sites are copycats, they almost do the same thing with little or no difference. The difference that I see is just on the interphase and the name or logo design but in content I think there are no much difference. Some try to differentiate themselves by bonus they give to customers when you bet not at registration. Another difference is in the odds to the games but apart from this basic factors, they have the same content and source code. Real competition can only be introduced when developers think differently from each other to introduce something different.

[Kakmakr]

With gambling platforms beyond certain point it isn't possible to innovate things. Maybe the interface and the colour schemes can be varied. In that way everything is a copycat. With different games, maybe the providers can vary. With sports betting, the odds can have slight variation. These days the success of the gambling sites were much on the trust it have got and the support and interest the service provider takes in solving an acquisition against the platform. So, even the copycat can succeed if it is able to provide the best service than the Originals.

The thing is... businesses build a brand, for example McDonald's and Wallmart etc... and they even take people to court if they copy their fonts or color in their company name, when they copy it. It is bad for their "Brand" if these copy cat sites misuse their image for their own profits and when they do not give the same level of customer satisfaction as the original company.

When you play at a very popular casino, you get a good experience... because their support is fast or their deposit and withdrawals are fast, but when you get to the copy cat sites... those things might be lacking.... and then you feel cheated. (They look like they are part of a franchise or a group of casinos... so you expect top quality from them)  

[Wexnident]

It's because trying to change up something would probably require a lot of investment and wouldn't even guarantee a return of it in the long run. Businesses are made to create profit after all and the most stable way to do so is to basically copy the general guidelines that earlier businesses with the same model have set. You'd only have to improve the reputation with simple marketing stuff to actually attract customers. A unique identity is really hard to create, especially in casinos where their luck-based games are the main feature, and seeing that most of those types of games are just a reskin of the same old ones, you won't really get anything "new" out of that.

I do love the idea of Rollbit and the NFT feature, but I'd consider it as a marketing feature instead of the core "luck-based" requirement that casinos have. It makes them unique in that their reward system is a lot more intricate with it, but it's only limited to the rewards part.

[acroman08]

TL;DR - if you want to go up against the king, you should probably be better than them in some way.

I mean, this should always be the goal of any launching gambling sites if they plan to be successful even if they are not trying to go up against the top crypto casinos. introducing something where your gambling site is better attracts gamblers.

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

I guess he isn't too worried because copying someone doesn't automatically bring success, the casino would still have to prove themselves if they want gamblers coming back to their gambling site.

[Stakefast]

with PUNT I absolutey agree - I even think they used a very cheap casino software someone sold here a while ago for less then 0.1 btc

I would be absolutely careful advertising and gambling on the website.

[virasog]

Basically most gambling sites are copycats, they almost do the same thing with little or no difference. The difference that I see is just on the interphase and the name or logo design but in content I think there are no much difference. Some try to differentiate themselves by bonus they give to customers when you bet not at registration. Another difference is in the odds to the games but apart from this basic factors, they have the same content and source code. Real competition can only be introduced when developers think differently from each other to introduce something different.

Usually the gambling sites offer same nature of games, bets and services and hence we see most of them copy the design and other details from other gambling sites.

If any site especially the new one want to make a name , they should stand out with unique designs and also come up with some new games and ideas. Using the same script and theme won't help them grow fast as people do not trust the sites which resembles with other trusted site.

[crzy]

Most of the gambling site offers the same game from the same provider, this is why most are almost the same.
Most of the gambling site can't offer their own games and that's why they look for a game provider which is also available on many site. Competition will always be tough, it will never be easy and I agree, those who will adopt change have a higher chance to survive while those who don't make any growth on their platform, they will slowly be left behind and will die sooner or later. Adoption is the key here to survive, as well as good innovation.

[DoublerHunter]

Most of the gambling site offers the same game from the same provider, this is why most are almost the same.
Most of the gambling site can't offer their own games and that's why they look for a game provider which is also available on many site. Competition will always be tough, it will never be easy and I agree, those who will adopt change have a higher chance to survive while those who don't make any growth on their platform, they will slowly be left behind and will die sooner or later. Adoption is the key here to survive, as well as good innovation.

^ You have a point and this was what I thinking of.
Look, if we notice there are too many gambling casinos that accept cryptocurrency from fiat or from offline casinos they are now in online casinos because they know that there is a big potential in the gambling business industry. All kinds of businesses always have competition out there, the good service they have, adopted modern trends, and most of all active customer support.
However, though there is a copycat on each game or a game provider at least there is a innovation of the games that can give attraction to the users

[Eternad]

I don’t understand what’s the issue here. This is business and it’s normal to see a competitor that has same product because that what it means on competing with same business. You can see this kind of thing on other business industry like gadgets, appliances and other products which big companies releasing same item type with just different brand.

There’s no patent on the casino website and also bunch of same casino existing means the crypto casino market is growing. I don’t see the point on observing there similarities because it’s obvious that they are just competing to each other and that’s how business works. You can’t monopolize all the players on playing on a single casino without a competitor that offers same product.

[goldkingcoiner]

TL;DR - if you want to go up against the king, you should probably be better than them in some way.

I completely agree that copycat online gambling casinos are lazy and they do not spark the confidence of the person who wishes to deposit their funds on such a unprofessional website. But as far as Stake.com goes, it does have the exact opposite effect. Everyone copying them means they have built quite the decent website.

Many of the new copycats are understandable. They are new businesses with low capital so they cannot afford anything fancy, just yet.

It would be bad for them if they were victim to an exploit. Using a stable build might be better until they learn more about how to run a casino.

[ralle14]

I agree with the OP, it's always great to see new casinos thrive, I remember the time when nitrogensports was the only big sportsbook back then and only a few gambling sites could keep up with the quality of their sportsbook, unlike today where we have so many good sportsbooks.

I also like what UserU mentioned about casinos having their own specific strength like promotions or rewards since the same thing goes for sportsbooks as you'll sometimes see other sportsbooks focus on providing the best odds instead of the promotions.

[dothebeats]

If something is proven working, why try to deviate from it anyway? I guess that's what new casino owners are trying to do when they are copying other casino's template and just changing some design elements to make it look like they are their own brand. Little do they know that they'll just constantly live behind the shadow of the platform that they took their design from, and may even be a reason why people will leave them in the end. It's about who set the standard first and who established what in this space. Maybe that's why Stake.com isn't really bothering about a lot of platforms copying them; it's because they know that people know the difference and at the end of the day, people will still choose them over any other copy cats in the space.

[Mahdirakib]

There is a open secret behind the success of Stake in crypto gambling industry, you haven't mentioned it in your post. And the open secret is "Primedice"
Gamblers had trust on Stake from the start as they have arrived with the touch of an established and reputable dice gambling site. The team had enough funds to start their business. They proceed big withdrawals quickly since the beginning. They are aslo giving huge bonuses to their users. If we see the collection of games, then Stake has everything you need. I'm a regular player of Stake since the start of 2018. So, I know that how Stake.com has come to this position gradually.

Some other casino has gained the success within last two years by brining something unique features. You have mentioned about Rollbit features in your post. In the same way, some casinos offering staking feature which helped them to attract many gamblers.
@ndumm, if you want to bring a casino to compete with the popular & established casinos, then you have to provide all best services. If you want to be the best one, then forget about it

[noormcs5]

Some other casino has gained the success within last two years by brining something unique features. You have mentioned about Rollbit features in your post. In the same way, some casinos offering staking feature which helped them to attract many gamblers.
@ndumm, if you want to bring a casino to compete with the popular & established casinos, then you have to provide all best services. If you want to be the best one, then forget about it

A casino can copy the design and looks but it cannot copy the high standards provided by one casino. If the copycat casino needs to survive, they have to produce the same quality otherwise they will just fade away and no one will play at the casino. Yes, if the casino copies everything which trusted casino has, then of course it good for gamblers as more the competition between the casinos, the better it is for the gamblers themselves.

[TimeTeller]

Some other casino has gained the success within last two years by brining something unique features. You have mentioned about Rollbit features in your post. In the same way, some casinos offering staking feature which helped them to attract many gamblers.
@ndumm, if you want to bring a casino to compete with the popular & established casinos, then you have to provide all best services. If you want to be the best one, then forget about it

A casino can copy the design and looks but it cannot copy the high standards provided by one casino. If the copycat casino needs to survive, they have to produce the same quality otherwise they will just fade away and no one will play at the casino. Yes, if the casino copies everything which trusted casino has, then of course it good for gamblers as more the competition between the casinos, the better it is for the gamblers themselves.

Competition is always welcome in any industry. So this is a good one also among gambling sites.
People may take a look at the new casino, but they will test it how trustworthy it is at all aspects.
Can they provide a reliable customer support who can satisfactorily address each player's issues?
Or will there be no withdrawal issues, when it comes to big winnings? So just few things we need to look at.
Credibility is built thru time, so we can't judge them early. Let us welcome them and see where they will be headed at.

[Daltonik]

It is not necessary to copy using a recognizable design from a trustworthy casino, unless you are going to engage in deception, it is enough to take a working concept and add your own unique features that will be appreciated by users, which will ultimately help to compete in the gambling market.

[dothebeats]

There is a open secret behind the success of Stake in crypto gambling industry, you haven't mentioned it in your post. And the open secret is "Primedice"
Gamblers had trust on Stake from the start as they have arrived with the touch of an established and reputable dice gambling site. The team had enough funds to start their business. They proceed big withdrawals quickly since the beginning. They are aslo giving huge bonuses to their users. If we see the collection of games, then Stake has everything you need. I'm a regular player of Stake since the start of 2018. So, I know that how Stake.com has come to this position gradually.

Some other casino has gained the success within last two years by brining something unique features. You have mentioned about Rollbit features in your post. In the same way, some casinos offering staking feature which helped them to attract many gamblers.
@ndumm, if you want to bring a casino to compete with the popular & established casinos, then you have to provide all best services. If you want to be the best one, then forget about it

New gamblers may not even know the reputation of Primedice when Stake was dropped. I guess you can also say that the marketing team of Stake is clever enough to bring in a lot of elements on their announcement here in bitcointalk to make the ANN thread lively. Of course the old heads and the reputable community members helped Stake gain traction on its initial days, but onboarding new players over the years is a genius of the marketing team that we fail to recognize. If we only have the old players playing at Stake for so long, it will not be as successful as it is today.

[Docnaster]

There will be similarities since most crypto casinos offer almost the same games. There is almost the same feature as well so the competition is too high. Copycats would be everywhere since their main focus is to attract and gain more players and we can't get rid of that. I think the main thing that would differ is their reputation and services rhat could provide to their customers and players. Those things couldn't be copied easily because it needs to be put and built up in time. Games and features will be nothing despite their qualities if a casino site can't offer a promising service.

There is similarities everywhere,  and there is hardly any new idea, one originates from another. But any good casino must find a way to difer from others and not to copy everything. Then it doesn't matter how large any casino copies the other but we know the reputable ones and funny enough reputations can't be copied.

[Fortify]

This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

TL;DR - if you want to go up against the king, you should probably be better than them in some way.

Full disclaimer ahead of time: my team and I are in the process of building a crypto casino. Most of us are relatively new entrants to this particular space; our expertise lies in crypto, influencers and sportsbooks which all have aspects of similarity but I fully acknowledge there are some industry specific details that I may be overlooking.


For the past few months, I’ve been keeping a very close eye on crypto casinos. Very rarely will a new platform or feature come out that we didn’t have some idea of ahead of time, and I could probably name every single platform worth knowing and their full feature set with my eyes closed. Through this obsession, it’s become extremely apparent that differentiation is a massive missing piece in the crypto casino puzzle.

To give context as to why this is occurring, this is an industry where taking risks can be difficult. A lot of people will comment on regulation within the space, but there are still frameworks that need to be abided by - these frameworks affect what products you can offer, who you can offer to, and various details around accepting funds. As well as that, a lot of the times you really don’t need to differentiate to produce decent revenue. Gamdom and Duelbits are good examples of this. It’s hard to point to any degree of actual differentiation, yet they’re still making a considerable amount of money (from what we’ve observed).

To some degree, benefit of the doubt can be awarded to a few competitors who are trying various things but retain similarity to Stake. Rollbit seem like they’re trying to pivot more to short-dated, highly leveraged crypto derivatives, and their NFT jackpot and Rollbot schemes are interesting at the very least. BC.Game do a lot, they’re targeting a very specific audience and seem to be doing very well at that.

In saying that, some things cannot be excused. An easy example is Punt.com - I’m not going to rip into them too hard, but calling that anything other than a carbon copy of Stake is insane. Punt has claimed to have guidance from their ‘close friend’ Eddie at Stake, but to some extent I doubt the validity of that. Another example is Slotella; all you need to do is look at their logo.

Stake does a lot of things well, and they’re not the biggest in the market for no reason. Making ‘provably fair’ the standard for house games, the design of their gamecards (props to whoever came up with that Stunna), a simple but thoughtful interface. Stake have built a very good basis for inspiration that I can’t fault people for modelling their own sites off - however if it’s anything but inspiration, there’s really not a tonne of respect you can give.

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

2023 is the year of S______.com.

They do say that imitation is the best form of flattery, but in reality casinos are a financial business and where there is a lot of money at stake then a working business model will get copied because it will be profitable. Relatively few people have the monetary resources and connections required to launch a casino, it is fraught with all sorts of hidden risks as well - so it's understandable that few new ones last the long term. You need deep pockets to make it through the setup stage and then hope to continuously grow with different forms of advertising. Security is also going to be a huge cost, both maintaining the integrity of your scripts and also keeping attackers at bay who will happily DDOS you all day to seek a ransom.

[STT]

I like the casino where you can change the background colour to anything you like, I forgot which one that is but it was highly customizable.  There is some argument for saying clones with slight variations could be reasonable in not wanting to break what isnt broken and some little change like colour, shading or picture could be all it takes to spark interest from people over another similar casino.   Sometimes people like the feel even if the structure or engine underneath is the same and I think thats part of the industry that at some things are modular and purposely reused.

[rdluffy]

@ndumm, with this commentary now I'm very curious about your work on next casino website

It's not only casinos, but all over the internet you can find lots of similar patterns, design, colors, styles...
Years before, we had to make all from scratch, like HTML, CSS, pure javascript, PHP, etc, but now everything is working together with framework and tools to facilitate.
You can say there's a lot of copycats, or you can say people with less knowledge can create a service and focus on content instead of being stuck.

I'm posting here not to just comment something, but a few years ago I remember posting here about my idea and this idea was a casino website.
It was different, nobody did the same as my idea, I have here with me documented, but I remember I gave up due to two mais reasons:
1 - lack of regulation in my country
2 - lack of my knowledge in programming

Today I see a lot of services / tools that facilitate the work of people, but the ideal is to get something working, well stabilzed to start and you can slowly focus on content and put your style.
I tried several online casinos and I know it's hard to make something original, casinos are dealing with money and the math / programming / fairness / security need to be almost perfect, so I don't see as a bad thing the fact that people is using the same patterns.
At the end, users will dictate the trends, a good service will probably thrive even being a copycat if this service is good, honest, with marketing and good games.

Keep us updated, just be careful to do a lot of hype because it's hard to achieve in the end.

[Yogee]

...Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

"Do not fix what's not broken" as the saying goes.

.....

Innovation is good but be careful not to tweak built systems that's been proven to be effective in an attempt to standout from the rest of the competition.

This innovation thing to be relevant is present in every industry. You can see them in brick and mortar businesses and in the crypto industry as well.

[Slow death]

the truth is that in recent years many new casinos have been appearing but almost all of them are the same, they just change the design and do not innovate and do not offer more things that the competition does not offer, that is, people (customers in this case) are just choosing casinos based on trust (of course that should be the main requirement for choosing a casino) but they don't choose the casino because they saw some function better than other casinos. maybe it's because the market is saturated that new casinos can't afford to innovate a lot, otherwise they'll have to spend more money and have no return, or because they don't have anything to innovate, it may also be possible. with this KYC issue then everything got worse, most new casinos are simply copy/paste of everything that they cannot even innovate in this KYC issue, just go to the TOS and the person soon realizes that it is the same TOS of many casinos

[PX-Z]

If you're the king everything will look upon you, make you as their inspiration, reference, and etc. That's how the world works in any industry, cars, motorcycles, smartphones, TV's, websites almost any industry where technology can be applied. That's why you can see those tech have almost the same look may only vary their colors, sizes, etc.

There will be some filling of cases in the court due to plagiarism/copycats in the early stage when small companies try to level up and end up copying the king.

As long as the king have their unique feature or their flagship he will not be threatened and will welcome any kind of competitors.

In gambling or say casino, have almost the same kind of features and look. The king will only be threatened if some of its pawns gather and influence the people working on the king and make their own empire.
But how? Of course some gimmick and promises. This when marketing, customer service, prices, games, etc. comes to compete the reign and may take times to take over what the king has.

[Lanatsa]

the truth is that in recent years many new casinos have been appearing but almost all of them are the same, they just change the design and do not innovate and do not offer more things that the competition does not offer, that is, people (customers in this case) are just choosing casinos based on trust (of course that should be the main requirement for choosing a casino) but they don't choose the casino because they saw some function better than other casinos. maybe it's because the market is saturated that new casinos can't afford to innovate a lot, otherwise they'll have to spend more money and have no return, or because they don't have anything to innovate, it may also be possible. with this KYC issue then everything got worse, most new casinos are simply copy/paste of everything that they cannot even innovate in this KYC issue, just go to the TOS and the person soon realizes that it is the same TOS of many casinos

I could say that it is indeed already that saturated and we dont really love to have lots even though the more the better option we do have but seeing offering on the same things all over again and again then this

is we could really say that having lots wont really be necessary.We would really be needing to see something new into this market which hadnt been offered before and thats what make things interesting

but currently we are seeing the same offering all over again and just said that there are changes on design but when it comes to games then it is indeed just the same.

[AmoreJaz]

...Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

"Do not fix what's not broken" as the saying goes.

.....

Innovation is good but be careful not to tweak built systems that's been proven to be effective in an attempt to standout from the rest of the competition.

This innovation thing to be relevant is present in every industry. You can see them in brick and mortar businesses and in the crypto industry as well.

anyone can set-up their own site, however, not many can sustain and maintain their presence in the market. this is an open industry where everyone is free to do their own business. but the question is, can they survive in this competitive market? starting in any business is a very challenging period. it will give you an idea if they can make it or not. no need to reinvent the wheel, but how can you catch the interest of your potential players?

[danadc]

I find this topic very interesting, I recently saw a new casino, and it was like the exact copy of another, so my question is the following; Is it normal that this is from a legitimate casino? and if it is legitimate it is because there is a provider of those casinos that are so similar to each other. Developers have many design options, so there is no reason that a casino that is going to be launched wants to do things very quickly and therefore they do not take into account what they are going to win, but rather the money they have to invest, and since there are people who launch themselves into this business almost without knowing or being active in casinos, this is what I think.

[Wexnident]

I find this topic very interesting, I recently saw a new casino, and it was like the exact copy of another, so my question is the following; Is it normal that this is from a legitimate casino? and if it is legitimate it is because there is a provider of those casinos that are so similar to each other. Developers have many design options, so there is no reason that a casino that is going to be launched wants to do things very quickly and therefore they do not take into account what they are going to win, but rather the money they have to invest, and since there are people who launch themselves into this business almost without knowing or being active in casinos, this is what I think.

If it was the exact same copy then their either under the same company of sorts or one of the other copied the exact same code somehow and published it on their own. Developers often just follow most of what is already developed, the most that would differ about them would be the UI designs but other than that they're generally the same imo. Now if a site has the exact same UI and backend, that's a copy, but if it felt like at the very least the UI changed, then it might just be the first scenario I said, or just a developer developing their own but by referencing that specific site, hence the similarity with minor differences.

[Silberman]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

To this I will add that is way easier to copy something than to create something new, it is because of this that most of the innovations that we see in the market of cryptocurrency casinos come from established casinos which can allow themselves to experiment a little bit and see if a particular game or feature becomes popular, but for those that are just starting their journey and they are trying to make a name for themselves in this industry this is way harder and as such they prefer to offer the games and features that everyone is offering already.

[davis196]

I think that the entire purpose of the copycat casinos is to end up being exit scams(well, most of them).
Your gambling business simply cannot survive in the long run, if your casino looks exactly the same as a bigger and well known casino.
Those copycat casino owners are in the business for the cash grab and the fast money from scamming.
There's a saying in marketing "A bad product can be sold only once." The same thing applies to copycat casinos. Such casinos can scam only once.
What matters the most in the gambling industry isn't the bonus structure or the casino web design. What matters the most is being good to your customers and building positive feedback. Maybe some copycat casino owners want to build a legit business, but at the end of the day, using a template makes you look unprofessional.

[traderethereum]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.
And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.
We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

[rodskee]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.

well , this becomes a questionable act as we have seen several times or many times that most of copycat casinos turns out scam , but of course I'm not saying all of them but at least most?

and besides if they are truly infront of business then surely they will use their money to create unique and out of others to find their own comfort and players.

And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.

well it is for them to prove , and if they really not intended the similarities then they will update their site to at least change something that will mark them differently .

We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

well that is the best way to deal with it.

[iv4n]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.
And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.
We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

Well, in the 21st-century copies are something pretty normal! Everything is copied, and all copies sell well if they are good copies... So I definitely agree that casinos should be able to provide security and comfort for us players in the first place and if they decide to go with some design that is being already used it's a design, in the end, people can like it or not! Who like it will stay there and play, who doesn't will search for something different, it's a free world!

[khaled0111]

...

I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

[DaveF]

Live casinos are the same way. 30+ years ago when the Mirage opened in Vegas everyone started building the more family friendly mega-resorts. And the change more and more of the games to more and more slots.

Then came the next wave of pools and clubs and such to vegas, and the gaming floor changed again and as soon as people saw it working the other casinos followed.

And so on. It's what works. We see what works and once it's figured out people follow it. What we don't remember are the ones that tried something different and for some reason did not do well. Might have been just bad luck, might have been the concept did not work, might have been another reason. But, once people see what is working everyone else follows.

Stepping back it's not just casinos, but everything. Look at movie theaters. All of a sudden they are putting in big comfy seats and adding more food options and so on. Why? Because a few tried it and found it worked and then everyone else is following.....

-Dave

[decodx]

...

I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

It depends how you look at it. My opinion is that a copy can sometimes be better than the original, but this doesn't mean it will replace the original or become more popular. As for online casinos, I agree that each site should have a unique identity and seek a niche that makes it stand out. This is to ensure a more targeted user base. You want to attract people who are looking for a particular game or who love to try new things. A copycat casino might attract an audience initially, but it won't retain them, especially if it's just a copy of another site.

[Wiwo]

Recent invents and development have shown that many casinos copy templates from other existing casinos must especially the new casinos always copy the template of an already established and successful casino and seeing the resemblance with the casino to stake.com I quickly search to see if that is against the rules of casinos. But u see that they have not breezed any law of agreement. I have established a personal conclusion on the case and that is to watch as the event unfolds, stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and efforts will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

[South Park]

...

I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

Without a doubt what you say makes sense however it is quite obvious that the casinos that choose to imitate or completely copy the design of a specific casino most likely are doing it for two reasons, the first one is that they know that such a design works and people find it easy to use, so they don't want to take the time to create an user interface as this is not only costly but time-consuming as well, the second reason is that maybe they are trying to deceive gamblers into believing that they are gambling in a website that is subsidiary to that casino, and in that case it is very likely that such a casino is trying to scam those people and the scammers behind it are just bidding their time.

[aioc]

...... stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and effort will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

The community may be aware of the similarity of both sites but when it comes to reputation and what the other has reached over the years there's a big difference, in my opinion, I don't care about the similarity I care about the reputation and achievement of the casino, there are white label and there are script developers that openly sell the rights of one script and if you bought it's not that nobody can buy that same script
because you bought it first, its still depend on your own configuration and how you establish your own site.

[coolcoinz]

I have to say you got mu attention OP. I'm curious to see that thing that will make your casino unique and if after that big talk you'll "walk the walk" as they say.

It's true that most casinos copy each other and there were big winners and big losers out there. I remember years ago casinos were actually competing even in the number of signature campaign participants. The campaigns had 50+ people in them as businesses were trying to flood the forum with their own ads. I feel like there's much less competition now and some players are already established while others who were here for a long time left the market, like yolodice.

Keep going, I hope you'll make a name for your business here and stay for good.

[Yogee]

...Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

"Do not fix what's not broken" as the saying goes.

.....

Innovation is good but be careful not to tweak built systems that's been proven to be effective in an attempt to standout from the rest of the competition.

This innovation thing to be relevant is present in every industry. You can see them in brick and mortar businesses and in the crypto industry as well.

anyone can set-up their own site, however, not many can sustain and maintain their presence in the market. this is an open industry where everyone is free to do their own business. but the question is, can they survive in this competitive market? starting in any business is a very challenging period. it will give you an idea if they can make it or not. no need to reinvent the wheel, but how can you catch the interest of your potential players?

No doubt it's a competitive market that's why you see some people trying something new but still fails. It takes a lot to build reputation but these casinos can still do it even if they're just "copycatss". I think I'm not just speaking for myself when I say a competitive marketing promotion and a secure platform for players is a necessity. Players have to be happy with the perks and be confident their accounts won't be compromised. A fair and clear terms and condition is also a must.

Another basic is provably fair games. This would have been at the top of the list but I see a crypto casino that don't have this on their in-house games...yet they seem to be doing well.

[Fatunad]

...... stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and effort will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

The community may be aware of the similarity of both sites but when it comes to reputation and what the other has reached over the years there's a big difference, in my opinion, I don't care about the similarity I care about the reputation and achievement of the casino, there are white label and there are script developers that openly sell the rights of one script and if you bought it's not that nobody can buy that same script
because you bought it first, its still depend on your own configuration and how you establish your own site.

Longevity is one of the indication on  where people must trust up even more and of course they would really be going into those platforms which had been running for more long years compared to another
which it would be needing some common sense for you to say that you would be sticking into something which had existed longer because it is understandable that duration or time does really able
to prove out that they've been supported and been played by the gambling community.Yes, majority is really just the same in overall offering but only differ when it comes to design
and with some little few tweaks on to their games.

[harizen]

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

[n0ne]

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

Agreed, "Nothing Beats The Original" and disregard of the design elements the success depends over the support system and the reputation the platform gain through its service. The initial point is very important, getting into copycat platforms isn't a big issue, getting into phising sites is big issue. Be cautious while getting into a gambling or exchange platform. Cross check the url, because more phising sites with same resemblance are seen around.

[traderethereum]

well , this becomes a questionable act as we have seen several times or many times that most of copycat casinos turns out scam , but of course I'm not saying all of them but at least most?

and besides if they are truly infront of business then surely they will use their money to create unique and out of others to find their own comfort and players.

That's the point of choosing a casino site that can really be trusted so that we don't have to be scammed.
Maybe, in this case, the feeling will help us choose the casino because, with our experience, at least it can help us avoid fraud.
A good casino will prioritize its users in providing comfort and service to them, which will make the casino a recommended casino.

well it is for them to prove , and if they really not intended the similarities then they will update their site to at least change something that will mark them differently .

They can also stay what we see while continuing to strive that they can prove to be a recommended casino.
It depends on how they can do it and it takes time.

Well, in the 21st-century copies are something pretty normal! Everything is copied, and all copies sell well if they are good copies... So I definitely agree that casinos should be able to provide security and comfort for us players in the first place and if they decide to go with some design that is being already used it's a design, in the end, people can like it or not! Who like it will stay there and play, who doesn't will search for something different, it's a free world!

That's right. When we are on the internet, we certainly see there are lots of similarities that exist on many websites.
We know that some developers sell lots of templates and create and sell them.
This developer has work that is a best seller in the gambling business so this will be bought by the casino owner and copied. But some parts are replaced and adapted to the casino's purpose, logo or anything related.
It is up to the people whether they will like it or not and it is not a compulsion for them to play in that casino or look for other casinos.

[adzino]

Yeah, they mimic other casinos. As long as they are legit and are actually paying their players, then it is fine. But I don't know why they copy other casinos. Probably because they feel it is less riskier to build/make completely new than to copy something existing. This way there is a low chance of messing up things and they will be able to attract users from those casinos (people tend to play on casinos that they are familiar with). But then again, as more casinos starts to copy each other, more competition will build up, causing them to gain less users.

Creating something new and unique might be hard and risky, but it is worth the risk.

[btc78]

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

Agreed, "Nothing Beats The Original" and disregard of the design elements the success depends over the support system and the reputation the platform gain through its service.

Reputation will grow depending on how the business serves their players , meaning it will come eventually and no rush to take place.
and nothing beating original is indeed but along the way if the copycat is serious and dedicated then upgrading will make them beat the original but this will take time.

The initial point is very important, getting into copycat platforms isn't a big issue, getting into phising sites is big issue. Be cautious while getting into a gambling or exchange platform. Cross check the url, because more phising sites with same resemblance are seen around.

proving them as phishing will save not only you but all the incoming players , what I mean here is that legitimacy will always be the one that we wanted to have in playing gambling.

[Baofeng]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

[darkangel11]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new  things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

[Oilacris]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new  things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Actually creating something new would be the toughest challenged and much sure that each company or platform do really try to make something new which hadnt been offered yet on this market.

It is really just that hard on creating one since if we do look around then almost everything had been created or been offered which means that it would really be needing sufficient time and thinking on

what kind of games that would be created which havent been existing on the market yet but until now we arent seeing something new but instead offering the same games all over again.

[fortunecrypto]

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

[dunfida]

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

[Silberman]

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

We need to be honest it is very difficult to create a new gambling game that people want to play, most of the games that we see today are in fact very old, and even if a casino could come up with a new idea for a new game that people may like to play it is going to be impossible to get the copyright for that game and every single other casino will just copy the game as fast as possible, so all the time and money invested by that casino will go down the drain, and it is because of that scenario why casinos do not bother too much on creating completely new gambling games.

[rodskee]

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

[delfastTions]

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

I also think that there is some possibility that players, after looking at several casinos with identical and almost indistinguishable, copied game interfaces, may get confused.  This may cause the player to start playing on a new site.  Apparently, this is what some new casinos use. 
This little scam, which is of course not a phishing scam site, is simply part of an advertising strategy to promote new casinos.

[dunfida]

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

We need to be honest it is very difficult to create a new gambling game that people want to play, most of the games that we see today are in fact very old, and even if a casino could come up with a new idea for a new game that people may like to play it is going to be impossible to get the copyright for that game and every single other casino will just copy the game as fast as possible, so all the time and money invested by that casino will go down the drain, and it is because of that scenario why casinos do not bother too much on creating completely new gambling games.

Yes, this is actually true on which you cant really that make things easily on where you cant really make one even if you wanted to.Its true that whatever things had been discovered or been created will surely be

offered by most casinos thats existing specially if a certain game did really get much interest then for sure they will really be offering it too.We could really say that this market is already a bit saturated

most platforms or places do only differ on some aspects but in overall it is really just been the same.Its hard to do  something new but lets see on how long we would really be waiting for a new one.

[decodx]

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

I also think that there is some possibility that players, after looking at several casinos with identical and almost indistinguishable, copied game interfaces, may get confused.  This may cause the player to start playing on a new site.  Apparently, this is what some new casinos use. 
This little scam, which is of course not a phishing scam site, is simply part of an advertising strategy to promote new casinos.

I think it's a deceptive and unethical business practice. Having copied a lot of game interface details from a well-known and respectable casino site, they want to lure new players with those game interfaces into their gambling site to the damage of the original casino site. This seems like a good short-term strategy for the new casino, but I think long-term it's a harmful one. This is the same as plagiarizing someone else's work and there should be laws against it (if there aren't already). Just think about it, the original casino probably invested considerable effort and resources into hiring designers to design and create interfaces and graphics that would appeal to players, but copycats simply take their work and make it part of their site without any credit or payment to the original designer. This is theft.

Punt . com casino is a glaring example of this, as you can see here. I would personally avoid any casino that was using this or any similar tactic, and would also not recommend anyone else to do so.

[goaldigger]

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

[Oilacris]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new  things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Actually creating something new would be the toughest challenged and much sure that each company or platform do really try to make something new which hadnt been offered yet on this market.

It is really just that hard on creating one since if we do look around then almost everything had been created or been offered which means that it would really be needing sufficient time and thinking on

what kind of games that would be created which havent been existing on the market yet but until now we arent seeing something new but instead offering the same games all over again.

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

There's nothing they could do but to follow up on whats the trend and it is true that they do really indeed differ on graphics and design but they do offer the same games and concept.
Whenever there's something new or new games been offered then it would really be just normal that they would be copying out so that they wont really be left behind on the competition.
They would really be just focusing on promotions and other perks which would really be the reason for them to hook up more players compared into other platforms
and this is where competition begins.

[Baofeng]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new  things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Yeah, and I think the point of contention here is the UI, that it has a lot of similarities to one site. Again, this might be true but you can't avoid it and I will go back again to the analogy on traditional base casinos.

Like what we have here in our country, big 3, games are similar, but if you look at the design, for example the entrance there could be quite differences but it is negligible. But once you go inside, the same games. So that might be the experience as well in crypto based casinos.

[Silberman]

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

I think this has to do as well with marketing research, for example if you take the time to look at how most casinos look on the inside you will see that they are very similar and even the distribution of the games is going to be similar too, even if we are not really familiar with them there are many studies which companies do in order to try to improve their layout so they can produce more sales, so it is likely that the similar layouts that we see at physical and online casinos have to do with the fact that they are the ones that produce the most profits.

[ethereumhunter]

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

We'll see if they don't intend to copy a site or if they do what they do on purpose. But it all comes back to how they can show us that they really want to make one casino that has the advantage over the other and if they can do it, I think they can compete with other casino sites. Or maybe later, they will provide updates to their site so that what we doubt can be answered. In the meantime, maybe we can give them more time to manage their site to run according to their plans and prove it to the public when the time comes.

[TimeTeller]

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

From me i noticed that the design of a website also attract people towards that, because the way I'm seeing this, some people don't like to gamble with a site that have a low design and a website that have issues of deposit delay and withdrawal delay, this two things are the things that make some people to quit from a site that having all this kinds of situations problems

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

[Hamphser]

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

From me i noticed that the design of a website also attract people towards that, because the way I'm seeing this, some people don't like to gamble with a site that have a low design and a website that have issues of deposit delay and withdrawal delay, this two things are the things that make some people to quit from a site that having all this kinds of situations problems

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

This is one of the most important things which business owners should really be avoiding as much as they could on which is all about deposits and withdrawals.No matter how beautiful your website design is

but you do able to mold up some issues in related to deposits/withdrawal then for sure it would really be creating that kind of impression which would really be resulting into that kind of impression
which would really be affecting overall site credibility thats why its better to avoid as much as you could.

Offerings are really just almost identical yet we've not seeing anything something new that had been offered.

[STT]

People may misestimate the common player, a change doesn't have to be monumental or even that unique to count as a 'new site' for peoples experience.   Add in sound effects on buttons and cute cartoons and that could be all it takes, maybe the artwork is amazingly stylized or its brand is well known mainstream; could be anything if the feel of the whole casino was altered from the first person view of a player then it counts as new to people even when all other code usage is just the same as an existing site.
  I see newspapers running gambling websites sometimes, I doubt they made it from scratch they are just bringing in the people; utilizing or monetizing an existing resource in a new market.

   I dont see this as especially incorrect, its not just gambling but all across industry white label usage of other sites or even physically another companies parts and product happens often.  If you can sell it better or reach a new audience beyond what the creator made then great, you have achieved a valid and successful website and business.   You pay some royalties but this is normal business so far as I know, marketing, advertising with targeted demographics is half the battle in achieving valid cash flow and in gambling that will bring profits with turnover.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

Yes, I totally agree with you, because like I earlier said, that I have no issue with copycat casinos , because what makes a casino stand to the test of time goes beyond a mere copycat casino, because there are several factors that could make a casino unique, trusted and reliable,  and they include, ability to enable fast deposit and withdrawer, good marketing plan and ability to update according go new threads and innovations

[South Park]

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

Yes, I totally agree with you, because like I earlier said, that I have no issue with copycat casinos , because what makes a casino stand to the test of time goes beyond a mere copycat casino, because there are several factors that could make a casino unique, trusted and reliable,  and they include, ability to enable fast deposit and withdrawer, good marketing plan and ability to update according go new threads and innovations

It is true that there is a lot more factors which make a casino successful than a unique user interface, also we need to understand that there is a limit to how you can arrange things for things to still make sense, you could create an unlimited number of user interfaces but they will be extremely complex and difficult to use, so the number of ways in which you can arrange the disposition of elements in a screen are limited and as such many casinos even if they do not want to will end up having a similar user interface.

[Oilacris]

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

Yes, I totally agree with you, because like I earlier said, that I have no issue with copycat casinos , because what makes a casino stand to the test of time goes beyond a mere copycat casino, because there are several factors that could make a casino unique, trusted and reliable,  and they include, ability to enable fast deposit and withdrawer, good marketing plan and ability to update according go new threads and innovations

It is true that there is a lot more factors which make a casino successful than a unique user interface, also we need to understand that there is a limit to how you can arrange things for things to still make sense, you could create an unlimited number of user interfaces but they will be extremely complex and difficult to use, so the number of ways in which you can arrange the disposition of elements in a screen are limited and as such many casinos even if they do not want to will end up having a similar user interface.

There would be alterations so that it wouldnt be completely the same or similar which would people ending up on having bad impressions whenever they do see some copycat sites.Some sites do really tend

to copy at least most of popular or known platforms believing that they could get some users basing up with that kind of mindset which is really very wrong.It would rather create some bad vibes
or views because copying is never been a good thing for most people or the one who do able to see it.Complexity should be on that normal phase where people would find it not too technical.
This market is somehow saturated which owners do end up on copying.

[Daltonik]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

[rodskee]

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

I'm not sure if this is a coincidence because I believe that op of whom I am pointing is already admitted that He is using almost same theme from the copied site in which i will not need to mention.

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

when we can play in different themed site? why need to play In copy cat one? I find it odd to decide lol.

[danadc]

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

Yes, I totally agree with you, because like I earlier said, that I have no issue with copycat casinos , because what makes a casino stand to the test of time goes beyond a mere copycat casino, because there are several factors that could make a casino unique, trusted and reliable,  and they include, ability to enable fast deposit and withdrawer, good marketing plan and ability to update according go new threads and innovations

There is a casino that is relatively new, I don't remember what its name is and even though I registered it reminded me a lot of Duelbits, I checked and if they have Ann thread and everything was within good parameters, if you say that it is reliable then it would be interesting to continue watching that casino to see how it continues to develop, I have registered in many casinos but I do not keep a list, but as much as I can I would like to do it and write down all the things that are quite good and some that are not so good.

One of the good things may be to wait perhaps for the reviews of users who are specialists, for better or worse it is advisable to have several opinions.

[nakamura12]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

If I also run casino online then I wouldn't mine copying the template or UI of my casino and made some changes so it won't be the same it won't become an exact copy of the website design from the original casino but rather focus on other important things to do like making sure that the site is safe with good security measures, finding bugs/issues, having a good customer support if someone is having an issue and most of all, solving the problems as fast as possible not that I don't care about the design. In short, customer's satisfaction first since house edge always win. That's my opinion about it.

[Johnyz]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

[uneng]

Most crypto gambling platforms offer the same games right now, so what does make each of them original? It's simply the style, the design, the scheme of colors, the logo. Maybe it's hard for some developers to be original trying to be original, but if they try to be creative instead, they are going to reach the desired goal easier and smoother, because ideas will flow naturally.
It's normal to copy some concepts from already existing gambling websites. Developers just need to take those concepts and use their imagination to inspire themselves in order to improve the final product even more.

[btc78]

Most crypto gambling platforms offer the same games right now, so what does make each of them original? It's simply the style, the design, the scheme of colors, the logo. Maybe it's hard for some developers to be original trying to be original, but if they try to be creative instead, they are going to reach the desired goal easier and smoother, because ideas will flow naturally.
It's normal to copy some concepts from already existing gambling websites. Developers just need to take those concepts and use their imagination to inspire themselves in order to improve the final product even more.

there is nothing wrong if they are having similarities because it is normal as there are hundreds or thousands if not million gambling site created since the online gambling starter , but at least they have big differences and not almost a like , because if that so then that is the clear calling of being copy cat and that is the question thrown by this thread as this is literally something to be questioned specially in budgeting in which maybe that said casino is having no budget to start business so how would a gambler trust them with their money?

[bitterguy28]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave.

and this will affect your desire in depositing or playing once you noticed a complete similarities in other sites that you use to play or visit because this lowered their trust from you as bettor .

But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

then this will not take place in this part because I believe that we are talking about newly created casino here that still in question about copy cat, because if trust and legitimacy is the main objective then we will be talking about old and reputable casinos .

[delfastTions]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

That's for sure!  Even well-known games or slot machine interfaces are much more pleasant to perceive when beautiful colors are on the screen (I, for example, really like dark purple tones) and I also think sound effects matter.  An old-school call from a slot machine is already a classic of an online casino. 
So, when opening a new casino, devs should of course pay maximum attention to these issues.

[Bitinity]

Most crypto gambling platforms offer the same games right now, so what does make each of them original? It's simply the style, the design, the scheme of colors, the logo. Maybe it's hard for some developers to be original trying to be original, but if they try to be creative instead, they are going to reach the desired goal easier and smoother, because ideas will flow naturally.
It's normal to copy some concepts from already existing gambling websites. Developers just need to take those concepts and use their imagination to inspire themselves in order to improve the final product even more.

Similarity is fine but a full copy can be a problem for the casinos that copying older casino. I remember when there were so many sites tried to copy bustabit and freebitcoin few years back, most of the copied sites received negative opinion because of it and they failed to survive eventually because most people are not attracted to copycat sites. Inspired by existing successful casino is also fine but a new site should have their own uniqueness, making some modifications (style, design, scheme, etc) will be more acceptable by most people.

[Dunamisx]

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

We'll see if they don't intend to copy a site or if they do what they do on purpose. But it all comes back to how they can show us that they really want to make one casino that has the advantage over the other and if they can do it, I think they can compete with other casino sites. Or maybe later, they will provide updates to their site so that what we doubt can be answered. In the meantime, maybe we can give them more time to manage their site to run according to their plans and prove it to the public when the time comes.

I consider competition to be one of the reasons why some think about building a similar casino looking alike with the one they are imitating, but i count it as stupidity because they waste their precious time they would have use in bringing something new up for gamblers on copying others, they make use of brand name alike, services, webpage and home display almost thesame as well with the reputed ones they copied, if you take a look into such scenario very well, you will discover they are mostly scamming casinos whose main objectives are to decieve gamblers to thier fake sites and lay restrictions on their withdrawal, everything about their site functionality is poor, users must be at alert on such kind of dubious casinos.

[Betwrong]

~ At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.~

Cloning toppers  in the industry is not something invented by crypto gambling sites. Just look at the several examples that Google is giving us:



Not all those that copy others are dying out, as you can see from the list above. If you are honest with your customers and the functionality of your site is on the high level, you have every chance of being successful, but being at least slightly different wouldn't hurt, of course.

[michellee]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

[ChiNgadOr]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

Gamblers are more interested in a working system where their funds will be more safer even though the original sites can not give them the guarantee they want. Copycats is not a bad thing but if the intention of copying another gambling platform has the motives if scamming people that that will not be accepted.

Gambling is meant to be flexible giving gamers the ability to choose from various gambling platforms of there choice. Some gamblers will never bordered they are playing on a copycat platform because they are more interested in the safety of their fund not just the name.

[Silberman]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

Gamblers are more interested in a working system where their funds will be more safer even though the original sites can not give them the guarantee they want. Copycats is not a bad thing but if the intention of copying another gambling platform has the motives if scamming people that that will not be accepted.

Gambling is meant to be flexible giving gamers the ability to choose from various gambling platforms of there choice. Some gamblers will never bordered they are playing on a copycat platform because they are more interested in the safety of their fund not just the name.

Exactly, the intentions of the developers of such casino are very important, if they are copying the layout of a casino simply because they think it is a good base for the development of their own casino then there is nothing wrong with that, however if they are doing it with the intention of trying to scam people by trying to make it seem as if they are the casino in question then without a doubt that is a shady move and people should avoid that casino at all costs.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Gambling is meant to be flexible giving gamers the ability to choose from various gambling platforms of there choice. Some gamblers will never bordered they are playing on a copycat platform because they are more interested in the safety of their fund not just the name.

^It does not matter as of now the copycat platform if you are a gambler in my own, people would like to gamble in a platform that seems all-in-one which is you never to jump in into another gambling casino for other games. Everything that you want is on one gambling platform even though if you will analyze they are almost the same with one gaming concept and which is considered to them a copycat game, that is not bad, the problem if the casino will include copying the idea of other gambling casino interface. 

[FanEagle]

Cloning toppers  in the industry is not something invented by crypto gambling sites. Just look at the several examples that Google is giving us:



Not all those that copy others are dying out, as you can see from the list above. If you are honest with your customers and the functionality of your site is on the high level, you have every chance of being successful, but being at least slightly different wouldn't hurt, of course.

Obviously you do not have to reinvent the wheel to get rich, you could copy what someone else does and become rich as well. As we all know the story of facebook, they had myspace way way way before facebook came out, but myspace was sold for 500 million or so, whereas facebook is now worth 100+ billion dollars along with whatsapp and instagram calculated in it (now called meta).

So, we could easily say that if there is something out there, and you do a better version of it, then you should be getting rich too. But remember that these people are doing it and have millions of dollars, so you need to do something much much better, and can't do that with just a few grand and hiring a developer.

[Eureka_07]

<snip>

Well I think what makes a crypto casino thrive in the market depends on their service as a whole. This includes the promotions, bonuses, games, payments, etc.
Personally  I think those casinos that copy the design of others very closely has a very high chance of being kicked out off the market suddenly. I mean, if you know that your favorite casino is being copied so much, will you trust that one that is copying it? I'm guessing the answer is no, so that means that they won't be able to get good amount of customers. Unless they change their strategy.

[paxmao]

In a way yes, copying is usually not enough, since the incumbent has always the advantage of being first to market and, if they have a proper strategy, they do know how to get that across to customers. Having said that, the games out there are very similar. It is in fact quite silly that with all the possibilities available with technology, casinos still relay on the old tested games.

[Reatim]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

not because the casino has no fraud cases mate meaning they are not scam or something bad  because sometimes there are victims that knows nothing where to put their cases so they remain silent and the casino can continue to operate without  being called out.
maybe the best way is to  check their site and learn how they treat players in small amount because mostly? scammer takes our money when we need to withdraw from our winning.

[michellee]

Gamblers are more interested in a working system where their funds will be more safer even though the original sites can not give them the guarantee they want. Copycats is not a bad thing but if the intention of copying another gambling platform has the motives if scamming people that that will not be accepted.

Gambling is meant to be flexible giving gamers the ability to choose from various gambling platforms of there choice. Some gamblers will never bordered they are playing on a copycat platform because they are more interested in the safety of their fund not just the name.

If the casino has a motive of wanting to deceive gamblers, I think gamblers can find out because many professional gamblers will investigate. A casino that has the same design as other casinos may want to see a response from gamblers. If necessary, the casino can replace it with a different design, especially if the casino has plans to upgrade its system. Gamblers themselves will choose a casino based on their experience and will not choose a casino if they are not sure about its safety.

not because the casino has no fraud cases mate meaning they are not scam or something bad  because sometimes there are victims that knows nothing where to put their cases so they remain silent and the casino can continue to operate without  being called out.
maybe the best way is to  check their site and learn how they treat players in small amount because mostly? scammer takes our money when we need to withdraw from our winning.

Checking their site and doing further research is highly recommended because we will choose a casino we will use to gamble and save some money when not gambling. But scammers usually won't take money from gamblers using small money and if they did, they probably did it randomly. And if the victim doesn't complain to the casino, no one will know so in this case, we better call him out to sort it out.

[Haunebu]

Understood what you were trying to convey op even though I didn't read the entire wall of text. I don't really view this entire copycat epidemic in the crypto gambling world to be a bad thing to be honest with you.

Why? Because this makes the market more competitive which in turn makes the popular sites work harder in order to stay ahead of the competition. This is mutually beneficial for both the sites and their gamblers.

Hence, it makes sense why some casino team members feel this is a compliment instead of an insult.

[Finestream]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

Gamblers will always be gamblers, and their main goal is to gain profits. So most likely, they are more concerned on the games and bonuses that the casino can offer. Though such interesting themes or designs can still catch the attention of the players, but in the end it’s all about the games and the reliability and good customer service that a casino has to offer.

[abel1337]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

Gamblers will always be gamblers, and their main goal is to gain profits. So most likely, they are more concerned on the games and bonuses that the casino can offer. Though such interesting themes or designs can still catch the attention of the players, but in the end it’s all about the games and the reliability and good customer service that a casino has to offer.

There are many factors in deciding what casino to choose but having a good design and an original one is a plus one. Remember that a design can give you a trade mark and it helps gamblers like us remember what casino we played. You can easily tell a new casino that there's a hint of being a clone if they are using a similar design and color scheme on a reputable casino right? This could end up in realizing the reliability of the casino, I personally won't play on a casino that is for me has a hint of being a clone casino this is why I conclude that a casino design is important to most gamblers especially for those who are seeking for entertainment.

[Hamphser]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

Gamblers will always be gamblers, and their main goal is to gain profits. So most likely, they are more concerned on the games and bonuses that the casino can offer. Though such interesting themes or designs can still catch the attention of the players, but in the end it’s all about the games and the reliability and good customer service that a casino has to offer.

There are many factors in deciding what casino to choose but having a good design and an original one is a plus one. Remember that a design can give you a trade mark and it helps gamblers like us remember what casino we played. You can easily tell a new casino that there's a hint of being a clone if they are using a similar design and color scheme on a reputable casino right? This could end up in realizing the reliability of the casino, I personally won't play on a casino that is for me has a hint of being a clone casino this is why I conclude that a casino design is important to most gamblers especially for those who are seeking for entertainment.

Being unique is something that been recommendable or does give out good impression on a particular platform or casino and its true that whenever we do see some new sites that has the same UI/UX of a known

gambling site then we do usually lose up interest directly.I dont know but everytime i do see these things in similar then i do lose up interest but i dont know on other people as long the bonuses and perks
are good then there are ones who do consider.
Casino owners would tend to copy out on something which is popular and believe that they could get good numbers but not how it works.People would be having those
first impressions that last.

[Jody.Drummer]

Being unique is something that been recommendable or does give out good impression on a particular platform or casino and its true that whenever we do see some new sites that has the same UI/UX of a known

gambling site then we do usually lose up interest directly.I dont know but everytime i do see these things in similar then i do lose up interest but i dont know on other people as long the bonuses and perks
are good then there are ones who do consider.
Casino owners would tend to copy out on something which is popular and believe that they could get good numbers but not how it works.People would be having those
first impressions that last.

You're right, I had the same impression when the same look and scheme of the famous casino made our interest wane. The reason is that it is the originality of the casino that makes us interested in the mix and features it has to offer. But if the UI / UX is the same, it comes to my mind that is boring and shows its own characteristics from a casino. Some confirm the new casino is working with a known casino, or the same person's UI/UX designer. It's even worse if you plagiarize from a well-known casino and violate the code of ethics. For that, I always lose interest as you feel when you find a casino bar but with a concept that we have found.

[Randomlywrite]

Would anyone happen to have or know of a list of platforms that only offer in-house games. No, provider slots? For example, bitkong, tower bet, BCH games, etc. I find these sites to be the most unique tho they do still have similar games to one another I enjoy their design and themes. Not to mention I don't get distracted and go blow my whole bankroll in 10 mins  on a few spins on a slot haha

[Hamphser]

Being unique is something that been recommendable or does give out good impression on a particular platform or casino and its true that whenever we do see some new sites that has the same UI/UX of a known

gambling site then we do usually lose up interest directly.I dont know but everytime i do see these things in similar then i do lose up interest but i dont know on other people as long the bonuses and perks
are good then there are ones who do consider.
Casino owners would tend to copy out on something which is popular and believe that they could get good numbers but not how it works.People would be having those
first impressions that last.

You're right, I had the same impression when the same look and scheme of the famous casino made our interest wane. The reason is that it is the originality of the casino that makes us interested in the mix and features it has to offer. But if the UI / UX is the same, it comes to my mind that is boring and shows its own characteristics from a casino. Some confirm the new casino is working with a known casino, or the same person's UI/UX designer. It's even worse if you plagiarize from a well-known casino and violate the code of ethics. For that, I always lose interest as you feel when you find a casino bar but with a concept that we have found.

We do all want to see some unique and something  that had bee seen already on the market.Any copycats or clone wouldnt really be that good to look at even if there are some small alterations but still wont really

be that enough to compete to those sites to whom they do copy with.They cant really just create from their own idea but instead to copy on since its the easiest way and even thinking and believing on positive
results?
Its already boring that every now and then we do really see new sites been launching but ending up on the same design and concept which we dont really like imho.

[Wexnident]

~

We do all want to see some unique and something  that had bee seen already on the market.Any copycats or clone wouldnt really be that good to look at even if there are some small alterations but still wont really

be that enough to compete to those sites to whom they do copy with.They cant really just create from their own idea but instead to copy on since its the easiest way and even thinking and believing on positive
results?
Its already boring that every now and then we do really see new sites been launching but ending up on the same design and concept which we dont really like imho.

The UI/UX of most famous casinos were try and tested already, hence why a lot of people adopt it, as I've said in my previous post. It's not boring to say imo, rather our eyes are just used to it since a lot of casinos use it, and that exact feeling of being used to it also helps in the instinctive way of us gliding through the site letting it become rather easy for us to use. It also speaks volumes that these similar styles are also famous for most of the case, hence why a lot of casinos still use them.

[judeafante]

You have one, massive incumbent who innovated a lot of what we see today (Stake); multiple competitors who hold a small but notionally considerable percentage of the market (Duelbits, Gamdom, Roobet, etc); a rapidly evolving space with huge potential upside. The only thing that’s missing is the competitor that will finally give Stake a run for its money.

Stake.com is not the only one that's been doing what its been doing and I don't agree that there is an absence of competition in the Cryptocurrency market, it is just that Stake has long years of existence and they have established loyal supporters since they started back 1998, others are just building their reputation and community, their closest rival Duelbits just started 2020 but they have achieved a lot, it will be different five years from now, Stake.com is just reaping what they've planted on over 20 years of their existence, you cannot expect to beat Stake by other casinos that are 2 to 4 years in its existence.

[Docnaster]

Cloning toppers  in the industry is not something invented by crypto gambling sites. Just look at the several examples that Google is giving us:



Not all those that copy others are dying out, as you can see from the list above. If you are honest with your customers and the functionality of your site is on the high level, you have every chance of being successful, but being at least slightly different wouldn't hurt, of course.

Apart from gambling industry, even in other industries where there is competition and where there is growth, there is a level of copying that is seen. I am an advocate that nothing is totally new, every idea must have emanated from other ideas and then refined to something new. This is understandable to a large extent and not to copy the whole idea or design of another company. If you copy more than acceptable, you the copier will lose your own originality. There will be no uniqueness attached to your brand. Companies that depends much on copying others doesn't last in any industry because they are not unique or lack brand.

Some companies who copied and became successful, you will notice that at some point they will tend to rebrand when they have gotten the required customer base to compete favourably in the market.
Gamblers sometimes doesn't care, they only care if all the games can be found readily and easily and withdrawal not giving issues they will make gamble and go their ways. So, it is the clear duty of gambling sites to patent their design and other related unique things, so that they would be legally eligible to take actions against obvious copy cats.

[Wakate]

Would anyone happen to have or know of a list of platforms that only offer in-house games. No, provider slots? For example, bitkong, tower bet, BCH games, etc. I find these sites to be the most unique tho they do still have similar games to one another I enjoy their design and themes. Not to mention I don't get distracted and go blow my whole bankroll in 10 mins  on a few spins on a slot haha

That is very good of you hahaha...
Blowing a whole bankroll can be so dishearten because that could be the found one had been growing for a very long time ams now blowing the account can be self weakening. I have one blown an account which it takes me many days to have grown to such a level and because of greed and curiosity to win more, I lost all my bankroll which was never funny at all. I cry bitterly inside me and went home promising myself never to be greedy again.
What a long time ago, I learnt the hardest lesson of my life then.

[Hispo]

In a way yes, copying is usually not enough, since the incumbent has always the advantage of being first to market and, if they have a proper strategy, they do know how to get that across to customers. Having said that, the games out there are very similar. It is in fact quite silly that with all the possibilities available with technology, casinos still relay on the old tested games.

From my personal point of view, these copycats could be the result of people with a limited budget but with much ambition and good plans for the future, so in order to start their business they opt for copying or taking inspiration from well-established online casinos, so they can start at the botton, accumulating money and hopefully to start making their platform unique as soon as they get enough profitability.

Also, Casinos (as for now) do not need to change their winning formula to attract people and keep them spending money, the classic games do their job pretty well.
If you have my personal opinion, however, I believe if a casino steps forward and start investing in develiping licensed games for their clients and these end up being successful, it could start a very interesting trend for the gambling industry. I hope to be alive when/if that ever happens.

[dothebeats]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

True. Most gamblers are not that 'picky' when it comes to games that is offered to them as essentially they are all the same, just different visuals and graphics. If the casino proved to be a reliable and trustworthy platform, gamblers would have no problem playing on them. What we're after is a good place with a good reputation and some kind bonuses too. Sure it might feel off playing on a casino that has a lot of its elements copied on another casino, but after sometime I won't really mind, so as the casino fulfills what I want in a gambling platform.

[Baofeng]

You have one, massive incumbent who innovated a lot of what we see today (Stake); multiple competitors who hold a small but notionally considerable percentage of the market (Duelbits, Gamdom, Roobet, etc); a rapidly evolving space with huge potential upside. The only thing that’s missing is the competitor that will finally give Stake a run for its money.

Stake.com is not the only one that's been doing what its been doing and I don't agree that there is an absence of competition in the Cryptocurrency market, it is just that Stake has long years of existence and they have established loyal supporters since they started back 1998, others are just building their reputation and community, their closest rival Duelbits just started 2020 but they have achieved a lot, it will be different five years from now, Stake.com is just reaping what they've planted on over 20 years of their existence, you cannot expect to beat Stake by other casinos that are 2 to 4 years in its existence.

It's because Stake and Primedice are the prime movers in crypto based casino so they already established their reputation already. Of course there are rivals that is going to come and go because it is a multi billion dollar industry. So it's hard to avoid this so called copy cats and similarities in design in games because this is a niche. And probably the same set of developers are being hired and of course same slot machine operators too.

[tabas]

Stake.com is not the only one that's been doing what its been doing and I don't agree that there is an absence of competition in the Cryptocurrency market, it is just that Stake has long years of existence and they have established loyal supporters since they started back 1998, others are just building their reputation and community, their closest rival Duelbits just started 2020 but they have achieved a lot, it will be different five years from now, Stake.com is just reaping what they've planted on over 20 years of their existence,

I didn't know this fact about stake.com that they've been there since 1998. I thought that they're just built last 2017 and their first success project was primedice which is still up to date and operating.

you cannot expect to beat Stake by other casinos that are 2 to 4 years in its existence.

The reputation they have is just hard to beat and that's one fact that many competitors knew but nothing bad to try to be at least close to them or be par in some other ways.

[Oilacris]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing. They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino. Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

True. Most gamblers are not that 'picky' when it comes to games that is offered to them as essentially they are all the same, just different visuals and graphics. If the casino proved to be a reliable and trustworthy platform, gamblers would have no problem playing on them. What we're after is a good place with a good reputation and some kind bonuses too. Sure it might feel off playing on a casino that has a lot of its elements copied on another casino, but after sometime I won't really mind, so as the casino fulfills what I want in a gambling platform.

Reputation is everything because once a certain platform do able to get this kind of title then this is where it would really be considered that it is really on the check mark when it comes to those qualities.

Most players doesnt really mind much as long they would really be seeing that there are lots of people who had been playing and staying on the platform.Copy cats is everywhere and isnt something new.

Whenever they do see that a particular site or company is really that too popular then you would really be expecting that there would be some copying actions
believing that they could at least share up on the same success if ever people find out something in similar on the site that they've been dealing with which is really a wrong belief.

[Silberman]

True. Most gamblers are not that 'picky' when it comes to games that is offered to them as essentially they are all the same, just different visuals and graphics. If the casino proved to be a reliable and trustworthy platform, gamblers would have no problem playing on them. What we're after is a good place with a good reputation and some kind bonuses too. Sure it might feel off playing on a casino that has a lot of its elements copied on another casino, but after sometime I won't really mind, so as the casino fulfills what I want in a gambling platform.

This is correct, gamblers which have been enjoying the activity for long enough know that the games offered by the casinos may differ on the visual aspect but at their core they are incredibly similar, which is why that as long as the game that they like is being offered by the casino in which they want to play they will focus on way more important aspects that affect them directly, like the amount and rate at which they received bonuses and how trustworthy the casino is.

[Betwrong]

~

~ But remember that these people are doing it and have millions of dollars, so you need to do something much much better, and can't do that with just a few grand and hiring a developer.

It shouldn't necessarily be "much much" better. Imo, just slightly better would be enough to win the competition. It wasn't like this before the Internet because living in one part of the world people had had little to no idea of what's going on in other parts, and even if they knew about something being better in other country, they couldn't use it. So, indeed, you had to have something much much better to draw the attention of potential customers from other countries. Now you can just copy something nice, improve it a little, and you are the winner.

[South Park]

It shouldn't necessarily be "much much" better. Imo, just slightly better would be enough to win the competition. It wasn't like this before the Internet because living in one part of the world people had had little to no idea of what's going on in other parts, and even if they knew about something being better in other country, they couldn't use it. So, indeed, you had to have something much much better to draw the attention of potential customers from other countries. Now you can just copy something nice, improve it a little, and you are the winner.

Globalization has really affected almost all aspects of our lives, this is now true not only for casinos or businesses in general but also for people, now you are competing not only against the people that went to school with you, you are competing against people from all over the world, but as you say in order to be a winner in that race you do not have to be so above the competition, because that is very difficult, you only need to be a slightly better option and that will be more than enough to beat the majority of your direct competition.

[DoublerHunter]

It shouldn't necessarily be "much much" better. Imo, just slightly better would be enough to win the competition. It wasn't like this before the Internet because living in one part of the world people had had little to no idea of what's going on in other parts, and even if they knew about something being better in other country, they couldn't use it. So, indeed, you had to have something much much better to draw the attention of potential customers from other countries. Now you can just copy something nice, improve it a little, and you are the winner.

Globalization has really affected almost all aspects of our lives, this is now true not only for casinos or businesses in general but also for people, now you are competing not only against the people that went to school with you, you are competing against people from all over the world, but as you say in order to be a winner in that race you do not have to be so above the competition, because that is very difficult, you only need to be a slightly better option and that will be more than enough to beat the majority of your direct competition.

^That is why being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat gambling casino.
Every kind of business has competition and the more you are different from others people would love to explore and experience other features that you have even though the mechanics of the games are almost the same at least you are different from others. A gambling casino that has its own developers would be better than buying a script that has already made it possible there are similarities to other gambling casinos.

[coolcoinz]

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~ But remember that these people are doing it and have millions of dollars, so you need to do something much much better, and can't do that with just a few grand and hiring a developer.

It shouldn't necessarily be "much much" better. Imo, just slightly better would be enough to win the competition. It wasn't like this before the Internet because living in one part of the world people had had little to no idea of what's going on in other parts, and even if they knew about something being better in other country, they couldn't use it. So, indeed, you had to have something much much better to draw the attention of potential customers from other countries. Now you can just copy something nice, improve it a little, and you are the winner.

There's a lot of things that make a casino successful and being unique is just one of them, but one of the lest important ones, which is why businesses are copying each other. It's much harder to get players to pay something new that requires some effort to learn. People are lazy and they often prefer to play a relaxing round of the good old than learn something and painfully find out they're bad at it.
People know that it takes time and money to get good.

The more important things that make a casino succeed are good advertising, a lot of money to throw away, an appealing graphics and good reviews (often paid).

[rodskee]

Indeed, for many players, the entourage itself created on the online casino site is important, it's nice to look at the visually attractive effects that certainly attract players, especially if you are in doubt to start the game or leave. But for players whose main goal is not to enjoy gambling, but to benefit from the UI/UX game does not matter, the main thing is that it should be a reliable and proven online casino, so it seems to me.

Many gamblers didn’t focus much on the theme or design of the site, they are too focus about the game being provided and they just really want to have fun regardless if the site just copied the theme from other site. Beside, they all have the same game provider, so the only concern here is the fairness of the site and it’s security requirements.

As long as the casino has no fraud cases, I don't think gamblers will have a problem with it and will use the casino to keep playing.

I believe that there are many gamblers who will just play even the site has no fraud cases unless they dig deeper about that site.
Like me? I will look into the sites first before depositing.

They can find what they are looking for because they have no trouble playing in that casino.

that is different from what we are doing , not because there are no trouble I will completely trust the casino.

Some casinos may have a similar theme or site design to other sites, and I think that's normal. Gamblers are just looking for a place to play safe, reliable, proven gambling that can provide comfort so they don't have to move to another casino.

difference is ok and similarity is ok , but not completely the same to what the others.

[velzevul11]

Casino these days is to large extent a branding exercise. Content is usually a commodity, e.g. casino games are almost always the same, e.g. pragmatic, evolution, netent, hacksaw, etc.

In betting a bit more complicated story, but the mainstream is the same – odds are a commodity provided by a couple of companies, e.g. betradar, betgenius and a handful of smaller providers. Bookmakers work with template odds, risk management and risk exposure to calibrate the product per segment of players, market, and so on. Betting allows broader options to play with the interface

In these conditions it is like a vodka business: same stuff inside, but a different bottle, label, legend, and pricing niche

From the perspective of running a casino, there are several factors

a)   Niche. You can be mainstream or niche, for example, focus on esports
b)   Customer service. Good quality support – means better player retention
c)   Selection of games, ability to integrate game providers
d)   RTP config. Not all allow to configure, but many do
e)   Advertising is a huge factor. If you are good operationally and product, but no one knows you – usually a failure.
f)   Bet limits, e.g game risk exposure
g)   Bonusing, vip schemes, and optionally gamification can make a big difference
h)   Usability of the casino site
i)   Speed of cashouts
j)   Stability and integrity of the technical platform
k)   Business intelligence – knowing how to offer the right stuff to the right customers. This is a complicated one and a lot of casino managers have neither skills nor tools
l)   Blockchain specific stuff: tokenomics, nfts – could be a good idea to play around with that


But in general, in this industry, there is a lot of fuss about lack of innovation and yet outside of 10s of thousands of business participants in the gambling industry, there are 1-2 notable innovations every 2-3 years.

It is easy to spot that there is a lack of innovation, it is even easier to promise, but very hard to deliver. A bit of playing around with brand and interface is not an innovation, rather good branding. And globally this is somewhere between $500B – $1T industry in revenue annually, so there is no lack of people and funds. Anyways, all the best to OP and I truly hope you will succeed!

[348Judah]

In a way yes, copying is usually not enough, since the incumbent has always the advantage of being first to market and, if they have a proper strategy, they do know how to get that across to customers. Having said that, the games out there are very similar. It is in fact quite silly that with all the possibilities available with technology, casinos still relay on the old tested games.

Don't you think there's a need to avoid and counter those involved in the act of copycats to face a legal suit because they can tarnish a reputation without minding the cost since it takes them nothing to loose than achieving their dubious desires on newbie gamblers, this is an act that should be discouraged in it entirety because no one will ever eant to see a pirate copy of his achievements and success taken by another one and spoil their reputation, dont be surprise that they may even make it alot than the original casino gambling sites with a reasonable number of patronage.

[velzevul11]

In a way yes, copying is usually not enough, since the incumbent has always the advantage of being first to market and, if they have a proper strategy, they do know how to get that across to customers. Having said that, the games out there are very similar. It is in fact quite silly that with all the possibilities available with technology, casinos still relay on the old tested games.

Don't you think there's a need to avoid and counter those involved in the act of copycats to face a legal suit because they can tarnish a reputation without minding the cost since it takes them nothing to loose than achieving their dubious desires on newbie gamblers, this is an act that should be discouraged in it entirety because no one will ever eant to see a pirate copy of his achievements and success taken by another one and spoil their reputation, dont be surprise that they may even make it alot than the original casino gambling sites with a reasonable number of patronage.

How would you do that considering all of those are Curacao based casinos? That’s the beauty of the grey business… pure competition, nowhere to complain about intellectual property. You get as far as how inventive you are

[Silberman]

This is correct, gamblers which have been enjoying the activity for long enough know that the games offered by the casinos may differ on the visual aspect but at their core they are incredibly similar, which is why that as long as the game that they like is being offered by the casino in which they want to play they will focus on way more important aspects that affect them directly, like the amount and rate at which they received bonuses and how trustworthy the casino is.

What we are mostly interested in when we play is to make profits and are not that interested in a gambling site that is a copycat of other gambling site. We want to keep playing what we know best in a platform where our money can be safe without any difficulties or problems with us cashing out when we win and y games.

If your main motivation to gamble is to make profits then the only thing that I can say to you is that you're going to get really disappointed if that's the case, casinos give us a platform in which we can enjoy casino games safely without worrying about getting scammed, obviously this is only true in the casinos that have shown to care about their reputation, and that has a cost, otherwise those casinos will disappear soon after they are created, and this means they have to give themselves an edge which makes it mathematically impossible for the player to win.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I like the OP's two last sentences which are absolutely true...
1.

Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind.

In as much as many businesses hate competition and see it as a threat to their business success, competition is still very important and necessary since that is what makes customers get their money's worth of service or goods.

And it is also said that technology is moving fast, and any business that fails to move with it will get left behind.

2.

Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out.

This one is also very true,  and I believe the reason why some of this casinos copy the others is because of lack of passion for what they do.
A business started out of passion always finds its way to the top because the business owner is passionate about his business and that passion helps bring new idea of ways to introduce something new.
But when a business lacks passion, the business owner also lacks power and ideas that will grow the business, at the end of it all. He or she ends occupying from others instead of creating something unique to that business..

[TimeTeller]

I like the OP's two last sentences which are absolutely true...
1.

Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind.

In as much as many businesses hate competition and see it as a threat to their business success, competition is still very important and necessary since that is what makes customers get their money's worth of service or goods.

And it is also said that technology is moving fast, and any business that fails to move with it will get left behind.

2.

Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out.

This one is also very true,  and I believe the reason why some of this casinos copy the others is because of lack of passion for what they do.
A business started out of passion always finds its way to the top because the business owner is passionate about his business and that passion helps bring new idea of ways to introduce something new.
But when a business lacks passion, the business owner also lacks power and ideas that will grow the business, at the end of it all. He or she ends occupying from others instead of creating something unique to that business..

Also, let us accept that most businesses really don't start from scratch.
They copied from somewhere but it is how they develop their platform that will give them the edge among competitors.
It is not wrong to copy but it is how you continuously innovate to improve your services according to the demand of your players.
This is where we will see how sincere the business owners are, to what extent they can provide services to their clients.

[Lanatsa]

I like the OP's two last sentences which are absolutely true...
1.

Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind.

In as much as many businesses hate competition and see it as a threat to their business success, competition is still very important and necessary since that is what makes customers get their money's worth of service or goods.

And it is also said that technology is moving fast, and any business that fails to move with it will get left behind.

2.

Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out.

This one is also very true,  and I believe the reason why some of this casinos copy the others is because of lack of passion for what they do.
A business started out of passion always finds its way to the top because the business owner is passionate about his business and that passion helps bring new idea of ways to introduce something new.
But when a business lacks passion, the business owner also lacks power and ideas that will grow the business, at the end of it all. He or she ends occupying from others instead of creating something unique to that business..

Also, let us accept that most businesses really don't start from scratch.
They copied from somewhere but it is how they develop their platform that will give them the edge among competitors.
It is not wrong to copy but it is how you continuously innovate to improve your services according to the demand of your players.
This is where we will see how sincere the business owners are, to what extent they can provide services to their clients.

As a business owner then getting some ideas or samples from your competitors wont really be bad which it would be just right that you wont really be copying out entirely because that one would create that

bad impression because copying originals is never been good.Instead on getting positive feedbacks you would rather get negative.In case you had just snipped out some features or design but at least you should

really consider on having up some changes at least so that it wont really be looking the same because the community doesnt really love to see copycats.

[Reatim]

True. Most gamblers are not that 'picky' when it comes to games that is offered to them as essentially they are all the same, just different visuals and graphics. If the casino proved to be a reliable and trustworthy platform, gamblers would have no problem playing on them. What we're after is a good place with a good reputation and some kind bonuses too. Sure it might feel off playing on a casino that has a lot of its elements copied on another casino, but after sometime I won't really mind, so as the casino fulfills what I want in a gambling platform.

This is correct, gamblers which have been enjoying the activity for long enough know that the games offered by the casinos may differ on the visual aspect but at their core they are incredibly similar, which is why that as long as the game that they like is being offered by the casino in which they want to play they will focus on way more important aspects that affect them directly, like the amount and rate at which they received bonuses and how trustworthy the casino is.

What we are mostly interested in when we play is to make profits and are not that interested in a gambling site that is a copycat of other gambling site. We want to keep playing what we know best in a platform where our money can be safe without any difficulties or problems with us cashing out when we win and y games.

lol you are completely wrong , real gamblers stands  in checking the site first deeply and closely before considering to deposit and play.

do you really understand crypto gambling ? or i mean online gambling ? the more trustee it gets is the more we tend to play and how can you trust a casino that had copied their whole site from others ? i mean how can you trust a site that has no capacity in spending  money to create their own or pay someone to do the job?

[peter0425]

...Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

"Do not fix what's not broken" as the saying goes.

.....

Innovation is good but be careful not to tweak built systems that's been proven to be effective in an attempt to standout from the rest of the competition.

This innovation thing to be relevant is present in every industry. You can see them in brick and mortar businesses and in the crypto industry as well.

anyone can set-up their own site, however, not many can sustain and maintain their presence in the market.

almost everyday or every week there is a new gambling site that had been promoted here and this is one big step for the businesses, but you are correct being active and staying long is the problem.

this is an open industry where everyone is free to do their own business.

every business is an open industry but the competition is the only problem because  staying strong will be their enemy here.
 

but the question is, can they survive in this competitive market? starting in any business is a very challenging period. it will give you an idea if they can make it or not. no need to reinvent the wheel, but how can you catch the interest of your potential players?

time , money and Knowledge , and the team behind in which will bring them to popularity and success .

[paxmao]

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

[el kaka22]

It is clear that people are overreacting on the copycat situation, if it is not a phishing attempt, then finding casinos with just a little bit of design difference but generally the same thing would be going on for sure. I mean I know a lot of casinos that just copied the system of stake, and did their own version of it but none of them are even remotely close to it.

This is why I highly doubt that stake is worried about any copycats. That is why if you are a good casino then you have nothing to worry about. I personally do not worry about any of this as a gambler because I know which ones are good and I only gamble in those ones without a worry.

[Mahanton]

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

Its not overacting but rather a common impression which even myself would really be having those kind of thinking and views about sites which does have the same vibe and design.
Copying is never been good.They might have able to have some changes or applications but its not something that you cant notice specially if you have seen this on the market for long.
I dont know on why copying is not something appealing in the eyes even if they do put up some additional games or changes but it cant really be removed on someones
mind that you have been copying others.

[qwertyup23]

It is clear that people are overreacting on the copycat situation, if it is not a phishing attempt, then finding casinos with just a little bit of design difference but generally the same thing would be going on for sure. I mean I know a lot of casinos that just copied the system of stake, and did their own version of it but none of them are even remotely close to it.

This is why I highly doubt that stake is worried about any copycats. That is why if you are a good casino then you have nothing to worry about. I personally do not worry about any of this as a gambler because I know which ones are good and I only gamble in those ones without a worry.

I agree with you.

Again, choosing a gambling casino is like going/visiting to your favorite restaurant or store. It is all about brand-building where you develop a trust between your customers over the positive feedback and service that you provided. Sure, some gambling casinos might copy the design of Stake or its system but if they fail to meet the needs of their customers, they will not be preferred.

Like what I also previously mentioned, gambling casinos have to develop this certain relationship where a fiduciary trust must be developed. That is why, customer support is very essential between the player and the gambling website in solving their respective issues.

[Mauser]

Reputation is everything because once a certain platform do able to get this kind of title then this is where it would really be considered that it is really on the check mark when it comes to those qualities.

Most players doesnt really mind much as long they would really be seeing that there are lots of people who had been playing and staying on the platform.Copy cats is everywhere and isnt something new.

Whenever they do see that a particular site or company is really that too popular then you would really be expecting that there would be some copying actions
believing that they could at least share up on the same success if ever people find out something in similar on the site that they've been dealing with which is really a wrong belief.

Building up a reliable and good reputation in the crypto gambling sector is very hard and requires a lot of time and money. When potential new casinos look at the market, they only see the existing big casino names and how profitable they are. Given the large number of copy cats it seems that the newcomers try to reach the same market shares only by copying their business model. This is not a guarantee and we see many casinos fail in their early startup stages. It would be more helpful to look at the crypto casino market as a whole and also analyse why so many casinos fail. To take away market shares from the leading casinos you need to offer more than casinos offer today. Without an incentive to switch the casino will struggle to find new customers. But offering better deals for new customers will reduce profitability and it will take longer for casinos to reach a break even point. A big factor in new casinos is the trust rating, older casinos build up trust from gamblers over years. Whereas new casinos are struggling to convince gamblers that they are legit. It takes time for new customers to build up confidence in a new casino. I think that many gamblers will try out new casinos only will small amounts until they are convinced that the casino is legit. New casinos need to anticipate that period.

[Silberman]

It is clear that people are overreacting on the copycat situation, if it is not a phishing attempt, then finding casinos with just a little bit of design difference but generally the same thing would be going on for sure. I mean I know a lot of casinos that just copied the system of stake, and did their own version of it but none of them are even remotely close to it.

This is why I highly doubt that stake is worried about any copycats. That is why if you are a good casino then you have nothing to worry about. I personally do not worry about any of this as a gambler because I know which ones are good and I only gamble in those ones without a worry.

I think the main problem for gamblers with those sites, assuming as you say that they aren't trying to phish their customers, is that many gamblers love variety in the games and user interfaces they're using as that is part of the fun of playing in another casino, but when you know already where everything is placed as that casino is just a copy of another one then suddenly you miss any chance of novelty you may have had, and in the process this denies any reason to gamble at that casino in the first place.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new  things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Yeah, and I think the point of contention here is the UI, that it has a lot of similarities to one site. Again, this might be true but you can't avoid it and I will go back again to the analogy on traditional base casinos.

Like what we have here in our country, big 3, games are similar, but if you look at the design, for example the entrance there could be quite differences but it is negligible. But once you go inside, the same games. So that might be the experience as well in crypto based casinos.

This for me is irgandte, I have seen many casinos that have the ambition very similar to that of stake.com, others with that of bitcasino.io, so I do not know whether to trust sites like this, because I believe that above all there must be legitimacy and the authenticity of any site, this for me is a reason to be careful about putting money there, I don't know if it's because they copy the designs or there is a way to buy certain things, that come with the domain or something, for me these things have a lot what to see, I have seen new casinos that are launched with their own design and although they lack a little and when they are suggested they improve, something that seems excellent to me, I think that is preferable.

[Betwrong]

It shouldn't necessarily be "much much" better. Imo, just slightly better would be enough to win the competition. It wasn't like this before the Internet because living in one part of the world people had had little to no idea of what's going on in other parts, and even if they knew about something being better in other country, they couldn't use it. So, indeed, you had to have something much much better to draw the attention of potential customers from other countries. Now you can just copy something nice, improve it a little, and you are the winner.

Globalization has really affected almost all aspects of our lives, this is now true not only for casinos or businesses in general but also for people, now you are competing not only against the people that went to school with you, you are competing against people from all over the world, but as you say in order to be a winner in that race you do not have to be so above the competition, because that is very difficult, you only need to be a slightly better option and that will be more than enough to beat the majority of your direct competition.

^That is why being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat gambling casino.
Every kind of business has competition and the more you are different from others people would love to explore and experience other features that you have even though the mechanics of the games are almost the same at least you are different from others. A gambling casino that has its own developers would be better than buying a script that has already made it possible there are similarities to other gambling casinos.

Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.

[pakhitheboss]

It does not matter if a casino is a copycat of another casino unless they have been opened to scam users. I like competition and if these copycat casinos are offering something unique and are aggressive in marketing then they will find new users which would make trusted casinos to improve more. What you have quoted as a copycat is the design and logo which were not legally protected.

[coinerer]

I think there are some casino sites where you can earn a lot of money especially by playing games but at one time those who go there to make money are the biggest losers.  He thinks he has been cheated

what are you mentioned here actually? I can't find any matches in your post with this topic. Here op said something about copy gambling games. But you are posting about something else here.  Which is a form of spamming. Keep an eye on your posts.  It's a real shame that you're a legendary member posting like this

[South Park]

Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.

True, it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients, I think it is better for casinos owners to concentrate on the execution of the casino itself and try to be slightly better or at least on par with what we already see with successful casinos, for example some casinos grow so rapidly their customer support can be very slow to answer to your inquires, if you could make your customer support to become top notch in the industry that could be more than enough to get a lot of clients.

[Oilacris]

Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.

True, it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients, I think it is better for casinos owners to concentrate on the execution of the casino itself and try to be slightly better or at least on par with what we already see with successful casinos, for example some casinos grow so rapidly their customer support can be very slow to answer to your inquires, if you could make your customer support to become top notch in the industry that could be more than enough to get a lot of clients.

Huge fund allocation for marketing or advertisement doesnt really give assurance when it comes to success specially if your platforms doesnt really give out something new and the worst you are copying

on current existing casinos or platforms which would'nt really be that appealing in the eyes of the community which it would really be normal that they would rather get some bad impressions instead of good.
We are really that wanting to see which havent been seen on this market and we've seen several platforms which do almost mimic's out and existing one
but eventually they do fail because they've been being ignored.

[wiss19]

it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients, I think it is better for casinos owners to concentrate on the execution of the casino itself and try to be slightly better or at least on par with what we already see with successful casinos, for example some casinos grow so rapidly their customer support can be very slow to answer to your inquires, if you could make your customer support to become top notch in the industry that could be more than enough to get a lot of clients.

Huge fund allocation for marketing or advertisement doesnt really give assurance when it comes to success specially if your platforms doesnt really give out something new and the worst you are copying

on current existing casinos or platforms which would'nt really be that appealing in the eyes of the community which it would really be normal that they would rather get some bad impressions instead of good.
We are really that wanting to see which havent been seen on this market and we've seen several platforms which do almost mimic's out and existing one
but eventually they do fail because they've been being ignored.

What can it only do is that their platform will get noticed and people will check it out (literally) like they will only visit it and then leave because their first impression is bad. Having a good site with a less marketing isn't also good because your good site will hardly get noticed or visited by the many although it might still have a little progress because those who tried it out might recommend their friends are family in your casino and then those people will also recommend the people that they know.

I've read some comments here and they say that it's fine for them if a casino copies the other casino so maybe it also depends on the person that views it.

[slaman29]

Not especially exclusive to crypto casinos, but casinos in general. Ideas that make it big elsewhere are copycated all the time. I guess you'll know this only when you try all those shady online casinos that are out there, especially in China or Philippines!

Personally I think copycats are in every industry. If you have a mobile app and you don't want to pay, and are forced to watch ads, then you know what I mean. Thousands of ads all looking the same as each other.

Same as going to Google Store search 1 app, see 100 copies.

[Wakate]

It is clear that people are overreacting on the copycat situation, if it is not a phishing attempt, then finding casinos with just a little bit of design difference but generally the same thing would be going on for sure. I mean I know a lot of casinos that just copied the system of stake, and did their own version of it but none of them are even remotely close to it.

This is why I highly doubt that stake is worried about any copycats. That is why if you are a good casino then you have nothing to worry about. I personally do not worry about any of this as a gambler because I know which ones are good and I only gamble in those ones without a worry.

There is nothing wrong with wrong with a casino copying one or two things from other casinos to make the own more better with best user's friendly interface. Gamblers will not see a real casino that has real content then for for it when it does not have interesting games and fast withdrawal and deposit system. Everyone want to gamble on a safe casinos where our funds is safe and uses will not be ban for having multiple winnings.
We all want a safe place to place our bets and cash out our winnings without any restrictions. Whether a casino is a copycat or not, well want to gamble on a reliable casinos.

[FatFork]

There is nothing wrong with wrong with a casino copying one or two things from other casinos to make the own more better with best user's friendly interface. Gamblers will not see a real casino that has real content then for for it when it does not have interesting games and fast withdrawal and deposit system. Everyone want to gamble on a safe casinos where our funds is safe and uses will not be ban for having multiple winnings.
We all want a safe place to place our bets and cash out our winnings without any restrictions. Whether a casino is a copycat or not, well want to gamble on a reliable casinos.

It is good to see how the online gambling industry is growing and how every day new casinos emerge with amazing new features, superior gaming experience and mind blowing graphics. If a casino takes inspiration or copies some ideas from another casino, then they are certainly not doing anything wrong. However, if a casino takes too much from other casinos and doesn't add anything new or unique to their own, or worse, copies the whole website design and features of another casino, then it's not a good idea.

Most of the online casinos want to make sure they have a customer that sticks around for a long time and doesn't change their preferences or habits. As a result, most online casinos spend a lot of time researching and creating game systems, features and prizes that they can offer to keep those customers happy. So, when a casino clones another casino, it's definitely bad for business and could easily turn customers away. It may even be considered as a breach of intellectual property rights.

[panjul07]

It is good to see how the online gambling industry is growing and how every day new casinos emerge with amazing new features, superior gaming experience and mind blowing graphics. If a casino takes inspiration or copies some ideas from another casino, then they are certainly not doing anything wrong. However, if a casino takes too much from other casinos and doesn't add anything new or unique to their own, or worse, copies the whole website design and features of another casino, then it's not a good idea.

100% agree and we can see that most sites solely copy other sites without adding something new/different will not last longer.
Simply because people will prefer to stay in the original sites because of some different reasons and.
As per my own experience or based on my preferences, it is rare for me to be attracted with a copycat casino.
Perhaps because I do not get the feel whenever I see a copycat site, or in other words is that I have negative thought for such copycat site.

[Lanatsa]

It is good to see how the online gambling industry is growing and how every day new casinos emerge with amazing new features, superior gaming experience and mind blowing graphics. If a casino takes inspiration or copies some ideas from another casino, then they are certainly not doing anything wrong. However, if a casino takes too much from other casinos and doesn't add anything new or unique to their own, or worse, copies the whole website design and features of another casino, then it's not a good idea.

100% agree and we can see that most sites solely copy other sites without adding something new/different will not last longer.
Simply because people will prefer to stay in the original sites because of some different reasons and.
As per my own experience or based on my preferences, it is rare for me to be attracted with a copycat casino.
Perhaps because I do not get the feel whenever I see a copycat site, or in other words is that I have negative thought for such copycat site.

I do ignore most of the time whenever i do see similarly designed sites or getting on the same theme on current existing sites or platforms in the market.Im that really a fan on checking out new platforms on the time

that they do make out some announcement here on this forum and if i do find out that there's nothing new and the worst they had copied on those old trusted sites then i do lose interest and just stick into the
current gambling site that im dealing off with.Its never been interesting on playing a site with having no reputation and you cant still trust them even they had copied out those trustworthy sites
that we've known.

[btc78]

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

I understand the sentiment because indeed as movies nowadays are almost alike thought there are differences yet either the story or even names are sometimes the same, the sequel are just being maneuver to look different.

and besides as so many gambling sites being created and published? we can see almost everyday there is a  new one? I'm afraid that copy cat will be prevented as either intentional or not yet they wanted business to operate and earn.

[Betwrong]

Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.

True, it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients,

Exactly. Why people should go to your platform if they are already using several gambling platforms and absolutely satisfied with the experience? When there are so many good online casinos there's a high probability that your site will be worse than others if you are trying to create something new. I'm not advocating copycatting here. Please, do add some features that no one else has, but only if they are really useful. Don't make otherness your main goal.

[paxmao]

The copycat title I would disagree with. There are certain things that are intellectually protected, inclusive of drawings and industrial designs. I am not so sure about the interfaces and the ability to copy interaction styles with the users. However that are other things that ate not subject to protection. For instance, would you accuse of copycat someone using a wheel?

[FatFork]

The copycat title I would disagree with. There are certain things that are intellectually protected, inclusive of drawings and industrial designs. I am not so sure about the interfaces and the ability to copy interaction styles with the users. However that are other things that ate not subject to protection. For instance, would you accuse of copycat someone using a wheel?

Almost all creative work that can be written down or otherwise captured in a tangible medium is protected by copyright law. It's that simple.

Copyright protects the creative act itself: the author's creation, not the idea behind it. In your example, the wheel is an idea. Ideas cannot be protected by copyright (they can be protected in some other way, for example by patent), but the specific creative work that was created from that idea is protected by copyright.

[LUCKMCFLY]

True. Most gamblers are not that 'picky' when it comes to games that is offered to them as essentially they are all the same, just different visuals and graphics. If the casino proved to be a reliable and trustworthy platform, gamblers would have no problem playing on them. What we're after is a good place with a good reputation and some kind bonuses too. Sure it might feel off playing on a casino that has a lot of its elements copied on another casino, but after sometime I won't really mind, so as the casino fulfills what I want in a gambling platform.

This is correct, gamblers which have been enjoying the activity for long enough know that the games offered by the casinos may differ on the visual aspect but at their core they are incredibly similar, which is why that as long as the game that they like is being offered by the casino in which they want to play they will focus on way more important aspects that affect them directly, like the amount and rate at which they received bonuses and how trustworthy the casino is.

What we are mostly interested in when we play is to make profits and are not that interested in a gambling site that is a copycat of other gambling site. We want to keep playing what we know best in a platform where our money can be safe without any difficulties or problems with us cashing out when we win and y games.

I don't remember in which betting site it is nascent, that they made a small negative feedback just for having copied the same format from another casio, the truth is when I saw that review because I didn't see any other option than not to insist or make myself manifest for those options casino, then I don't know, but when one site is a copy of the other it gives a bad feeling, or you have to be careful, I know that some think that if you play, win and withdraw they are good casinos and even reliable, but I think this is not it is everything, much more care must be taken, because it is the money that is at stake and it is very unpleasant that something like this is done and you want to withdraw it and you cannot.

The copycat title I would disagree with. There are certain things that are intellectually protected, inclusive of drawings and industrial designs. I am not so sure about the interfaces and the ability to copy interaction styles with the users. However that are other things that ate not subject to protection. For instance, would you accuse of copycat someone using a wheel?

Almost all creative work that can be written down or otherwise captured in a tangible medium is protected by copyright law. It's that simple.

Copyright protects the creative act itself: the author's creation, not the idea behind it. In your example, the wheel is an idea. Ideas cannot be protected by copyright (they can be protected in some other way, for example by patent), but the specific creative work that was created from that idea is protected by copyright.

The truth is that I did not know that there were copyrights in accordance with the setting of a casino, everything sometimes seems very similar, the providers are many of the slots, and generally all the slots are very similar to each other, but of course there are casinos that I have seen, which are relatively new and seem to be exact copies of others, I have seen very similar to stake.com, bitcasino.io, they have the same configuration, in fact one gets in and knows the casino well and everything, and the only thing What changes is the name of the casino, I have come across casinos of that style, and it is really surprising, although I think that some do well, and it is accepted.

[South Park]

Not especially exclusive to crypto casinos, but casinos in general. Ideas that make it big elsewhere are copycated all the time. I guess you'll know this only when you try all those shady online casinos that are out there, especially in China or Philippines!

Personally I think copycats are in every industry. If you have a mobile app and you don't want to pay, and are forced to watch ads, then you know what I mean. Thousands of ads all looking the same as each other.

Same as going to Google Store search 1 app, see 100 copies.

This happens everywhere, if a product which is innovative is released and people are buying it in just a few days hundreds of cheap copies appear on the market, but this is stifling innovation as those people need to pay all the research costs and when they finally have a product they can sell it is immediately copied and they are not paid any royalties either, so I think this is the reason why no one is taking any risks as it simply makes no sense for them to take them.

[carlfebz2]

Not especially exclusive to crypto casinos, but casinos in general. Ideas that make it big elsewhere are copycated all the time. I guess you'll know this only when you try all those shady online casinos that are out there, especially in China or Philippines!

Personally I think copycats are in every industry. If you have a mobile app and you don't want to pay, and are forced to watch ads, then you know what I mean. Thousands of ads all looking the same as each other.

Same as going to Google Store search 1 app, see 100 copies.

This happens everywhere, if a product which is innovative is released and people are buying it in just a few days hundreds of cheap copies appear on the market, but this is stifling innovation as those people need to pay all the research costs and when they finally have a product they can sell it is immediately copied and they are not paid any royalties either, so I think this is the reason why no one is taking any risks as it simply makes no sense for them to take them.

This is in fact reality on which if there's something had been successfully gaining or getting some attraction then this is where other people would be tending to copy it out and believe that they could get somehow

some market share when the trend is still in going until the market would be flooded out by similar projects which ending up on being saturated and people who do engage on it would flock away into something new.

Innovation is really limitless yet ideas and other concepts would be made out but no one knows on when it would happen.The first in the market will always be getting that
attention and recognition and this is what other people been trying out to made on.

[Yaunfitda]

The copycat title I would disagree with. There are certain things that are intellectually protected, inclusive of drawings and industrial designs. I am not so sure about the interfaces and the ability to copy interaction styles with the users. However that are other things that ate not subject to protection. For instance, would you accuse of copycat someone using a wheel?

True, that's why the whole copy cat with online casinos dilemma is in the gray area because there are certain thing that are IP, but then again you do some twist about the design and drawing and get away with it.

But slot operators just uses one design and then deployed it to different casinos. Now we see familiar designs when we move from one casinos to another that there is no copycat infringement.

[slaman29]

Not especially exclusive to crypto casinos, but casinos in general. Ideas that make it big elsewhere are copycated all the time. I guess you'll know this only when you try all those shady online casinos that are out there, especially in China or Philippines!

Personally I think copycats are in every industry. If you have a mobile app and you don't want to pay, and are forced to watch ads, then you know what I mean. Thousands of ads all looking the same as each other.

Same as going to Google Store search 1 app, see 100 copies.

This happens everywhere, if a product which is innovative is released and people are buying it in just a few days hundreds of cheap copies appear on the market, but this is stifling innovation as those people need to pay all the research costs and when they finally have a product they can sell it is immediately copied and they are not paid any royalties either, so I think this is the reason why no one is taking any risks as it simply makes no sense for them to take them.

Thanks for repeating what I said lol but yeah, that's the whole point I was trying to say. It's no use to complain about a 'copycat epidemic' within crypto casinos especially when it actually is far worse in other industries. They're cheats and they're gaming it but money talks, and worse, consumers fall for it.

I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

[Fortify]

This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

Let's face it, there are only a certain amount of games in the world, most of which have been developed over decades and become familiar in their playability with the general public. People want to gamble on games that they feel comfortable with and without excessive amounts of new learning. Casinos also like to keep it relatively simple as it can prevent bugs from creeping in. That's the reality of why we see such a consolidation of games at crypto sites.

[Betwrong]

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

[slaman29]

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

[LUCKMCFLY]

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

Its not overacting but rather a common impression which even myself would really be having those kind of thinking and views about sites which does have the same vibe and design.
Copying is never been good.They might have able to have some changes or applications but its not something that you cant notice specially if you have seen this on the market for long.
I dont know on why copying is not something appealing in the eyes even if they do put up some additional games or changes but it cant really be removed on someones
mind that you have been copying others.

HJay a very peculiar case with a new casino, the truth has been very criticized for having its environment very precious to stake.com, in fact in the thread I let them know if they hate to change the environment a bit, so they don't see it as a copy-paste, because there are people who are very delicate with that part, I think there are many who don't even play for that reason, I was also receiving criticism because the support was very bad, but they have already improved that, and the truth It doesn't look like a bad casino, the games are very good, of course as it has the same look as stake.com it makes it attractive, so can a site like this be good and totally reliable?

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I think that is not the case due to the simple fact that it does not make sense for crypto casinos to go to court because it is a waste of time, they would get into a problem where they can even temporarily suspend and disable them, that would be much worse, a casino lives is from its clients and from the services that they can offer them, if I see that there is a casino with problems with the law or in a court that for me would cause alert and at once I would say that I am not going to put money there or In deposit, much less would I pay attention to the contests that they carry out, I think that all casinos think the same in this type of situation, it is simply not worth it.

[Chato1977]

those who copied from other sites are mostly scammers or tend to scam as they are proving to have no enough capital to atleast pay their designer in having their own casino to show players.

though there are some similarities that did not intend to copy but majority are scams in the end.

This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

Let's face it, there are only a certain amount of games in the world, most of which have been developed over decades and become familiar in their playability with the general public. People want to gamble on games that they feel comfortable with and without excessive amounts of new learning. Casinos also like to keep it relatively simple as it can prevent bugs from creeping in. That's the reality of why we see such a consolidation of games at crypto sites.

well  this means they are not totally copycat but instead same game offering?

[stomachgrowls]

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

Based up on all the years here on crypto space, i havent seen one who had been sued out because of copying their site design.If we do look around which lots of copycats and still continue to grow in numbers

but eventually they do just simply pass away since people would really be still ending up on joining the original ones and this what makes things back to normal.
We dont see any suing or legal actions in regarding on this one.

Business owners here on crypto space do knows on which one would really be the ones who would succeed out.

[slaman29]

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

Based up on all the years here on crypto space, i havent seen one who had been sued out because of copying their site design.If we do look around which lots of copycats and still continue to grow in numbers

but eventually they do just simply pass away since people would really be still ending up on joining the original ones and this what makes things back to normal.
We dont see any suing or legal actions in regarding on this one.

Business owners here on crypto space do knows on which one would really be the ones who would succeed out.

The biggest victim of copycat is probable Crash and Dice, but yeah, the most I've ever seen is people just accusing them of being clones and then the site dying, which I guess is the same end product as getting sued to bankruptcy.

Then again, all the dice places I play aren't really that original anyway, or at least are not so different from the original. I play not out of loyalty but house egde hehe

Right anyway, end of topic I guess.

[Dunamisx]

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

All we want is for everyone to start something new, they have the kind of mind that can accommodate varieties of thoughts and innovation that can be put in place to help gamblers learn and play something new, if Satoshi did not make moves on attempted steps to create something different from fiat currency then we would have all not been here to benefit his positive thinking and creativity, even if it will be a failure but at least try out something new,no one knows tomorrow as another person can pick it up from where yours ended, i got discouraged whenever i see plagiarist even in gambling.

[Betwrong]

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Wynn Resorts Sues Resorts World for Being a Copycat

but it was about the looks of a land based casino. As for the online casinos, there was at least one case too:


MGM Sues Online Casino Over Trademark Infringement and “Identity Theft”

And you can read in the same article the following:

In 2015, Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp won a similar lawsuit against 35 Chinese online gambling websites that each appropriated the company’s logo and played fast and loose with its intellectual property.

So, all those newly appearing gambling sites should keep in mind that intellectual property must be respected.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.

True, it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients,

Exactly. Why people should go to your platform if they are already using several gambling platforms and absolutely satisfied with the experience? When there are so many good online casinos there's a high probability that your site will be worse than others if you are trying to create something new. I'm not advocating copycatting here. Please, do add some features that no one else has, but only if they are really useful. Don't make otherness your main goal.

What you say is very true, aside from there are other things to take into account, in this field of casinos, there is a lot of competition, I am sure that many players will have mistrust when they see a casino identical to another, and some players will not enter for the same lack of trust, and at this point it is not good that apart from all the understanding that exists and all the ways there are to attract clients, be it with good marketing, with signature campaigns and with everything we can imagine, it is not good that copy from other casinos, the demand is very high and it is not worth spending time and money on sites that really cause mistrust.

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

All we want is for everyone to start something new, they have the kind of mind that can accommodate varieties of thoughts and innovation that can be put in place to help gamblers learn and play something new, if Satoshi did not make moves on attempted steps to create something different from fiat currency then we would have all not been here to benefit his positive thinking and creativity, even if it will be a failure but at least try out something new,no one knows tomorrow as another person can pick it up from where yours ended, i got discouraged whenever i see plagiarist even in gambling.

Well this is something that we should not ignore, because if you are right, Satoshi gave a change of course to everything as the global economy is managed, where he made us see that there is an apparent technology that we can take advantage of and that it really gives financial freedom in little time where debt does not exist unless it is mixed with the traditional economy that is well trodden and about to fall by the way, since 2021, however global events have delayed some things, however when we get into the topic of casinos + crypto , is something that goes far beyond physical and traditional casinos, where every process is improved and everything has and is based on a totally impartial system that has its advantage programmed to the casino, as it always is.

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Wynn Resorts Sues Resorts World for Being a Copycat

but it was about the looks of a land based casino. As for the online casinos, there was at least one case too:


MGM Sues Online Casino Over Trademark Infringement and “Identity Theft”

And you can read in the same article the following:

In 2015, Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp won a similar lawsuit against 35 Chinese online gambling websites that each appropriated the company’s logo and played fast and loose with its intellectual property.

So, all those newly appearing gambling sites should keep in mind that intellectual property must be respected.

What you present is very interesting, and it is very good to take into account, of course that was with 35 Chinese casinos and obviously they are casinos that did not have much authenticity, but if it is consistent with the theme and it is to raise awareness, here we talk about property intellectual property and something can apply to this case where the designs and setting are copied, I do not know if it falls into the category of intellectual property, but this post should be seen by those casinos that have copied the designs of others to take it into account, sometimes it is better to avoid than to regret, and the examples you give here are pure gold, it is a question that they can review the thread and see it.

[slaman29]

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Cool, thanks, but my question was about a crypto casino

And then yesterday follow up talked about dice copies and the most common I've seen crash copies (we all know the famous Crash game that started it all, but I'm not so sure I'm familiar with the script, which apparently was stolen or copied easily, you see new threads come up about it countless times over the years.

But they have not as far as I know ever gone to court.

[kotajikikox]

I think there are some casino sites where you can earn a lot of money especially by playing games but at one time those who go there to make money are the biggest losers.  He thinks he has been cheated

what are you mentioned here actually? I can't find any matches in your post with this topic. Here op said something about copy gambling games. But you are posting about something else here.  Which is a form of spamming. Keep an eye on your posts.  It's a real shame that you're a legendary member posting like this

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Just dont mind them and if you think this affects you? then easily report to admin so this will be deleted as no value post or not related to the topic meaning a complete spam as what will i do now.

and nowadays? it is not about the rank but the type of account who are doing the post .

It does not matter if a casino is a copycat of another casino unless they have been opened to scam users. I like competition and if these copycat casinos are offering something unique and are aggressive in marketing then they will find new users which would make trusted casinos to improve more. What you have quoted as a copycat is the design and logo which were not legally protected.

copycat is normally happened but what i observed is that once they are being called? updating or upgrading takes place for them to look different from the original

[Betwrong]

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What you say is very true, aside from there are other things to take into account, in this field of casinos, there is a lot of competition, I am sure that many players will have mistrust when they see a casino identical to another, and some players will not enter for the same lack of trust, and at this point it is not good that apart from all the understanding that exists and all the ways there are to attract clients, be it with good marketing, with signature campaigns and with everything we can imagine, it is not good that copy from other casinos, the demand is very high and it is not worth spending time and money on sites that really cause mistrust.

Yes, if they don't respect the intellectual property rights of others, who knows what else they don't respect? I would avoid playing at such online casinos.

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What you present is very interesting, and it is very good to take into account, of course that was with 35 Chinese casinos and obviously they are casinos that did not have much authenticity, but if it is consistent with the theme and it is to raise awareness, here we talk about property intellectual property and something can apply to this case where the designs and setting are copied, I do not know if it falls into the category of intellectual property, but this post should be seen by those casinos that have copied the designs of others to take it into account, sometimes it is better to avoid than to regret, and the examples you give here are pure gold, it is a question that they can review the thread and see it.

It's only a question of time, when all the online crypto casinos will start taking bitcointalk reviews and suggestions seriously. I mean, many of them are already present here, and they are taking what's posted here seriously, and it shows their professionalism. No wonder their business is booming.

[bocyaj]

When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

[stomachgrowls]

When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

We do welcome new ideas and innovation which it would really be just normal for people to have those kind of reactions which we would really be that interested.It would really be just common sense if we do really notice

somethings off or something shady where we could really make out some warnings if ever its been proven out but if not then we are really that free on testing out new ideas for new experiences.

You cant really stop into those people who would really be making out those copying into something which they do saw that it is popular.
Once they have seen it then they would be copying it and hoping that they could get at least some marketshare.

[Dunamisx]

When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.

[Fatunad]

When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.

When you do see something new that launched in the market then it would really be just normal that you should make out some research so that you wont really be ending up on being scammed.
You would eventually noticed if theres something off or not really that right towards that new casino.You could always test out with some small amounts and dont directly make out huge
deposits so that you wont really be that ending up on being wrecked in case things turns out to be messy.Its not really something surprising that everything would really be having
its other version or being copied.There's always those people who would be looking into those current popular and hoping to get on the same recognition via copying.

[danadc]

When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.

When you do see something new that launched in the market then it would really be just normal that you should make out some research so that you wont really be ending up on being scammed.
You would eventually noticed if theres something off or not really that right towards that new casino.You could always test out with some small amounts and dont directly make out huge
deposits so that you wont really be that ending up on being wrecked in case things turns out to be messy.Its not really something surprising that everything would really be having
its other version or being copied.There's always those people who would be looking into those current popular and hoping to get on the same recognition via copying.

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

[Dunamisx]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name

Some casinos will still use an identical slogan of other reputable one for their own and just edit and make little changes which is bad, when are we going to wake up to start thinking on our own constructively to birth in something new that gamblers will accept and appreciate, it all take a sacrifice of time and resources but only few are willing to follow the process through.

but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

Don't be surprised that some people interested to set up a standard casinos do gall into the hands of bad managers, who will not deliver upto expectation just because the owner of the casino isn't experienced enough in setting up a casino, they mismanaged their funds, steal from it and provide less quality services for them and in such cases having experience like as you've mentioned is inevitable here, things will definitely go wrong beyond copycats.

[Hamphser]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

[Betwrong]

~ The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Indeed, there are enough established and respected online casinos for us to play in. Why should we bother with some copycats? Even if they promise enormous bonuses, how can we be sure it's not a scam?

So, the first move, make your platform originally looking. Not many people are going to trust you otherwise.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think there are some casino sites where you can earn a lot of money especially by playing games but at one time those who go there to make money are the biggest losers.  He thinks he has been cheated

what are you mentioned here actually? I can't find any matches in your post with this topic. Here op said something about copy gambling games. But you are posting about something else here.  Which is a form of spamming. Keep an eye on your posts.  It's a real shame that you're a legendary member posting like this

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Just dont mind them and if you think this affects you? then easily report to admin so this will be deleted as no value post or not related to the topic meaning a complete spam as what will i do now.

and nowadays? it is not about the rank but the type of account who are doing the post .

It does not matter if a casino is a copycat of another casino unless they have been opened to scam users. I like competition and if these copycat casinos are offering something unique and are aggressive in marketing then they will find new users which would make trusted casinos to improve more. What you have quoted as a copycat is the design and logo which were not legally protected.

copycat is normally happened but what i observed is that once they are being called? updating or upgrading takes place for them to look different from the original

Well, there are many opinions about it, so what can we say? that a casino is considered to be authentic even though it has similarities or that its environment is completely the same as another? We could think that when we enter a casino that it is identical to another, because in my case I would stop and put on a magnifying glass because it is not something usual, but we must also take into account that if we enter a casino where we have enough variety of games and that it is an honest casino, perhaps what it has to do is correct that option, and continue to be a normal casino team and be more authentic and original.

[worldofcoins]

Welcome to the forum; I just went through your post, and we can't say it is becoming a copycat.
As you know, the market competition situation and user trends are based on the likes and dislikes of the users.
Casinos must have to incorporate the features and offers, unlike other casinos. Adopting new requirements and trends is mandatory to attract new users and retain them.

[Hamphser]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

I do always stick with the original, i dont know but i do always have the bad impressions when it comes to copycat even if they do make out some alterations or changes but if its really that obvious then it is really

giving out that odd feeling or lost of interest.I might able to try it for some exemptions or curiosity but if it does give the same experience or doesnt really have something new then i do usually go back

into those original and i do much prefer on using them rather than on new ones which do really just simply copy their design and do make out some small changes
but its really that obvious.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

I do always stick with the original, i dont know but i do always have the bad impressions when it comes to copycat even if they do make out some alterations or changes but if its really that obvious then it is really

giving out that odd feeling or lost of interest.I might able to try it for some exemptions or curiosity but if it does give the same experience or doesnt really have something new then i do usually go back

into those original and i do much prefer on using them rather than on new ones which do really just simply copy their design and do make out some small changes
but its really that obvious.

Well, whenever there is some type of doubt, it is better to listen to our intuition, this is something that can work for us and many times prevent us from losing money, it is something like that intuition that sometimes gives us in trading, that we have that hedge sense that it can warn when there is something wrong, if there is that presumption, it is better to pay attention to them, that is, if we do not trust sites that have such a shameless copy-paste, it is better not to be in that casino anymore, go to b+ Search for another that is very reliable, with a high reputation and that has enough profits for us to put our money there.


When we enter a casino we always look for the way that a casino meets our expectations, and one of them is that we manage to have the opportunity to have at least one win, not in everything but if it is feasible to win, of course this is fulfilled in sites like reliable casinos where they all have a high reputation, such as stake.com,.Sportsbet, bitcasino, Roobet, all that guarantee some security, but when a casino is a copy of another it is already something different, it could be said that it is spoken of plagiarism and it is what many do not want, so these things are what stop anyone from entering and depositing, this should be taken into account by many who want to launch a casino.

[traderethereum]

Welcome to the forum; I just went through your post, and we can't say it is becoming a copycat.
As you know, the market competition situation and user trends are based on the likes and dislikes of the users.
Casinos must have to incorporate the features and offers, unlike other casinos. Adopting new requirements and trends is mandatory to attract new users and retain them.

More important is how the casino site can provide good service to its customers so they can be satisfied with its performance.
And although the casino site looks similar to other casinos, as long as the casino can provide satisfactory service to its members, it will not be a problem for the members.
They won't think about how it looks but how the casino can work well and not do anything bad or even cheat its members.
And this will be a healthy competition between casino sites where they must be able to provide the best for their members.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~ The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Indeed, there are enough established and respected online casinos for us to play in. Why should we bother with some copycats? Even if they promise enormous bonuses, how can we be sure it's not a scam?

So, the first move, make your platform originally looking. Not many people are going to trust you otherwise.

Yes, it is true, there are many platforms that have a lot of authenticity and too much originality, sometimes it is annoying that one gets into a casino that is being born and is exactly the same as another, I think it is lack of work or a lot of laziness, maybe sometimes the sites were to be very good but they have or were sold that, the bad thing is that they would start off with the wrong foot, but everything is in the possibility of being fixed, just making a good change of environment can generate much more confidence and apologize, because having a casino for the first time is something that must be very difficult, apart from all the effort and capital.

Welcome to the forum; I just went through your post, and we can't say it is becoming a copycat.
As you know, the market competition situation and user trends are based on the likes and dislikes of the users.
Casinos must have to incorporate the features and offers, unlike other casinos. Adopting new requirements and trends is mandatory to attract new users and retain them.

More important is how the casino site can provide good service to its customers so they can be satisfied with its performance.
And although the casino site looks similar to other casinos, as long as the casino can provide satisfactory service to its members, it will not be a problem for the members.
They won't think about how it looks but how the casino can work well and not do anything bad or even cheat its members.
And this will be a healthy competition between casino sites where they must be able to provide the best for their members.

Yes, I know that what you are looking for is that you can play well and that the casino meets the main requirements, but you also have to put in context that when there is a copy of a site it is not very well seen, it is something like doing a job identical to another either in a company or in an educational institute, I see it that way, when there is a casino that has possibly been cheated with something like that, because its duty is to immediately change its design, because that way It shows that it is authentic, legitimate and original, it will clear any doubt that the site is somewhat shady in its actions, but of course that is my way of seeing this.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Welcome to the forum; I just went through your post, and we can't say it is becoming a copycat.
As you know, the market competition situation and user trends are based on the likes and dislikes of the users.
Casinos must have to incorporate the features and offers, unlike other casinos. Adopting new requirements and trends is mandatory to attract new users and retain them.

More important is how the casino site can provide good service to its customers so they can be satisfied with its performance.
And although the casino site looks similar to other casinos, as long as the casino can provide satisfactory service to its members, it will not be a problem for the members.
They won't think about how it looks but how the casino can work well and not do anything bad or even cheat its members.
And this will be a healthy competition between casino sites where they must be able to provide the best for their members.

Well I consider something, when a site is launched to the world and especially if it is promoted here in the forum, it is necessary to point out that if it is a copy-paste of another site, they can improve it, that is, with the first comment made by the users, the casino must take action quickly and change everything, this to show that if they are authentic and that they were cheated in some way, this is something that can happen, the concept of every casino must always be original and not a copy of others, a casino should never cheat their players or promise them something that they can't deliver because that means total failure for them, that's how I see it.

I see that as much the same as plagiarism in the articles, even in the same publications that sometimes some members of the forum do in an unscrupulous way to show quality but in a not very good way.

[Yatsan]

Welcome to the forum; I just went through your post, and we can't say it is becoming a copycat.
As you know, the market competition situation and user trends are based on the likes and dislikes of the users.
Casinos must have to incorporate the features and offers, unlike other casinos. Adopting new requirements and trends is mandatory to attract new users and retain them.

More important is how the casino site can provide good service to its customers so they can be satisfied with its performance.
And although the casino site looks similar to other casinos, as long as the casino can provide satisfactory service to its members, it will not be a problem for the members.
They won't think about how it looks but how the casino can work well and not do anything bad or even cheat its members.
And this will be a healthy competition between casino sites where they must be able to provide the best for their members.

Well I consider something, when a site is launched to the world and especially if it is promoted here in the forum, it is necessary to point out that if it is a copy-paste of another site, they can improve it, that is, with the first comment made by the users, the casino must take action quickly and change everything, this to show that if they are authentic and that they were cheated in some way, this is something that can happen, the concept of every casino must always be original and not a copy of others, a casino should never cheat their players or promise them something that they can't deliver because that means total failure for them, that's how I see it.

I see that as much the same as plagiarism in the articles, even in the same publications that sometimes some members of the forum do in an unscrupulous way to show quality but in a not very good way.

Casinos has one concept. It is no longer surprising to see that there are platforms sharing the same look, promotions, gambling games being offered and such, simply because they are on the same ground or industry. Plagiarism would be only accountable to those who are copying other platforms UI, as well as names which are closely alike or soundslike which ee have seen for years not only in gambling industry. Their intention is to ride with the hype of that particular or popular gambling platform for the attention to be divided to both original and copying platform. One reason I guess why this thing is still occuring at this moment is because only few are throwing complaints.

[CornG]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

[Fatunad]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

These copycats do really believe that they could really be able to get some marketshare which the original site is gaining currently which is a bullshit kind of idea or belief on mind.
People on this community does really hate up copycats but cant really be denied that there are still people who do easily get hook into something which is similar to this.
Its never been good on looking or dealing up on a site which had obviously copied out other popular sites design which is almost identical but people should
really be watching it out because being new does mean that reputation and credibility isnt proven out yet.

[decodx]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

Well said. I'm no expert, so I don't know how far copyright infringement goes and where inspiration ends and plagiarism begins. But from what I've seen, it's clear that Punt.com is using a lot of the same graphics and themes as Stake.com. I've even uploaded a few screenshots for a side-by-side comparison here, for anyone interested. In fact, if I didn't know better, I would assume that Punt.com was simply a re-branding of Stake.com with a new name and some minor changes to the design. What I find most ridiculous is that Punt.com seems to be trying to pass itself off as an "original", even though it's clearly a clone of Stake.

[Jody.Drummer]

~ The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Indeed, there are enough established and respected online casinos for us to play in. Why should we bother with some copycats? Even if they promise enormous bonuses, how can we be sure it's not a scam?

So, the first move, make your platform originally looking. Not many people are going to trust you otherwise.

This is a very good move. To do gambling, it is clear that the reputation of one of the sites is important, at least this is for me. and I prefer something that is certain than having to try something new, especially if it offers a bonus that really doesn't make much sense.
But indeed maybe this is one of our levels of greed when we see a bonus which is indeed very large, it is clear that we will do anything to get this bonus without first seeing the clarity of the new site.
Trying is not wrong in this case, but we are not too sure why we continue to force it.

[paxmao]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Well, first of all, the term copycat is many times abused. The fact that a site is doing something similar because it works does not make the copycats - in the end there is no need to re-invent the wheel is there? What also may be happening is that many sites are using the same base code or code creation platform, just as many videogames use the same engine and look a bit the same.

[Hamphser]

So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.

You could eventually spot out a possible scam casino in the first place or first glimpse because these people wont really be investing heavily on a site in terms of design or interface on making it look good.

Most of the cases scam projects would just simply be look simple and almost look like a school project.You would definitely notice a site which there's no effort on being put up when its created.

If they are really planning to scam on the first place then they would really be wasting up money for that.It wouldnt assure that it could hook up lots of players and bag up lots or tons of money
and ran away.Also, the wisest thing to be done is never ever to make up big deposits specially when you do deal with new gambling site.

The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Well, first of all, the term copycat is many times abused. The fact that a site is doing something similar because it works does not make the copycats - in the end there is no need to re-invent the wheel is there? What also may be happening is that many sites are using the same base code or code creation platform, just as many videogames use the same engine and look a bit the same.

Business owners would really be going into that easy path rather than on finding those complex methods or ways which they could really be able to do or make a site on using up those current available which they

could really copy from.It is really just that some of them didnt bother on making out some alterations at least to make it a little look different with those current existing ones which there are people who are
really that doesnt like to see similar sites or do identical looking which it do really give out that kind of impression that it cant really be something trusted compared to those older ones.
Every now and then which you could see that new platforms or services are almost identical but it isnt really that right that it would really be automatically considered to be shady or scam.
People cant really just be that confident.

[QueenVera]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino. 

Well said and I wish the OP is following up on this and I also understand why the copy cat epidemic within crypto casinos,
This very copycat epidemic isn't just rampard with crypto casinos but with most of this digital Business and also the physical one, people always want to follow suit with what is trending and giving money as at the moment.
One thing certain in this very digital space is the fact that the competition is massive and the moment you give any chance, you'll be kicked out no matter the level of your professionalism.
I saw you mention FTX and I really felt bad for them and had to check the date of this post and tbis is also a constant reminder that, unnecessary competition and pride in business isn't right and necessary.

[rodskee]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

[ethereumhunter]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

[rodskee]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

But still that this is  one thing that will lead them to be trusted , if they will use design that only created for them and not a copycat like what most scammers do.

and besides if you invested in Casino online , you must also have that that capital to pay for design and advertising.

this is also why many reacted in the because of that accountability .

[danadc]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

But still that this is  one thing that will lead them to be trusted , if they will use design that only created for them and not a copycat like what most scammers do.

and besides if you invested in Casino online , you must also have that that capital to pay for design and advertising.

this is also why many reacted in the because of that accountability .

When a casino is created it is possible that the people who buy everything, also buy the internal designs of the casinos, and if these people could have been fooled with a very iugal style, and there are some who must not have much experience and if They buy the environments because they trust the suppliers that design them. The bad thing is that to change a whole casino style, I imagine that it costs a lot of money and for that reason they leave them that way and prefer to take all the criticism, if the Spending a lot is not worth it, but it puts your entire reputation at risk, instead of receiving good reviews they can put bad things on you.

[carlfebz2]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

But still that this is  one thing that will lead them to be trusted , if they will use design that only created for them and not a copycat like what most scammers do.

and besides if you invested in Casino online , you must also have that that capital to pay for design and advertising.

this is also why many reacted in the because of that accountability .

When a casino is created it is possible that the people who buy everything, also buy the internal designs of the casinos, and if these people could have been fooled with a very iugal style, and there are some who must not have much experience and if They buy the environments because they trust the suppliers that design them. The bad thing is that to change a whole casino style, I imagine that it costs a lot of money and for that reason they leave them that way and prefer to take all the criticism, if the Spending a lot is not worth it, but it puts your entire reputation at risk, instead of receiving good reviews they can put bad things on you.

As a business owner or an investor then having this kind of mentality on which you are trying out to save up via making use of other platforms design and make out some small alterations but you havent mind

on what other peoples be saying or make out those criticisms yet having that copy cat kind of thing does really give out that kind of negative impression.

Cant really be denied that whenever we do see a new site having the same design of a known and reputable site and copying almost identical then
people would just simply ignore it out.

[arwin100]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

But still that this is  one thing that will lead them to be trusted , if they will use design that only created for them and not a copycat like what most scammers do.

and besides if you invested in Casino online , you must also have that that capital to pay for design and advertising.

this is also why many reacted in the because of that accountability .

When a casino is created it is possible that the people who buy everything, also buy the internal designs of the casinos, and if these people could have been fooled with a very iugal style, and there are some who must not have much experience and if They buy the environments because they trust the suppliers that design them. The bad thing is that to change a whole casino style, I imagine that it costs a lot of money and for that reason they leave them that way and prefer to take all the criticism, if the Spending a lot is not worth it, but it puts your entire reputation at risk, instead of receiving good reviews they can put bad things on you.

Cant really be denied that whenever we do see a new site having the same design of a known and reputable site and copying almost identical then
people would just simply ignore it out.

People will ignore it out the fact that they just copy it from reputable casino and they will just think that why would they play on a copy one while they can spend their money playing on the original one so messing up with designs for not creating original ones will not result good because many gamblers will just label it as scam. To avoid such thing create fresh casino with various thing to offer which is not available to other competitor since this is more convincing to gambler to play on new introduce casino.

[Lanatsa]

People will ignore it out the fact that they just copy it from reputable casino and they will just think that why would they play on a copy one while they can spend their money playing on the original one so messing up with designs for not creating original ones will not result good because many gamblers will just label it as scam. To avoid such thing create fresh casino with various thing to offer which is not available to other competitor since this is more convincing to gambler to play on new introduce casino.

Arent we seeing some of sites which does have similar design in the market nowadays or at this moment? None right?

This do simply means that people doesnt really like on seeing copycats even if they are really that trying to improve their bonuses or tending to be that generous but still doubts and
trust isnt something that could really be avoided for people.Its really hard to trust nowadays specially on newly launched platforms which you cant really
tell whether they are just simply trying to scam out or just totally not that enough on getting peoples trust and ending up on failure.

[Reatim]

People will ignore it out the fact that they just copy it from reputable casino and they will just think that why would they play on a copy one while they can spend their money playing on the original one so messing up with designs for not creating original ones will not result good because many gamblers will just label it as scam. To avoid such thing create fresh casino with various thing to offer which is not available to other competitor since this is more convincing to gambler to play on new introduce casino.

Arent we seeing some of sites which does have similar design in the market nowadays or at this moment? None right?

This do simply means that people doesnt really like on seeing copycats even if they are really that trying to improve their bonuses or tending to be that generous but still doubts and
trust isnt something that could really be avoided for people.Its really hard to trust nowadays specially on newly launched platforms which you cant really
tell whether they are just simply trying to scam out or just totally not that enough on getting peoples trust and ending up on failure.

and also , copycat sites nowadays are being broadcasted  as soon as people here find it out to warn bitcointalk users not to engage in those sites , because if they cannot provide funds for platform of their own so how about the winners once needed to withdraw?
remember that gambling business needs big amount of capital and this only shows them short on that matter so why need to trust them at all.

[Chato1977]

With gambling platforms beyond certain point it isn't possible to innovate things. Maybe the interface and the colour schemes can be varied. In that way everything is a copycat. With different games, maybe the providers can vary. With sports betting, the odds can have slight variation. These days the success of the gambling sites were much on the trust it have got and the support and interest the service provider takes in solving an acquisition against the platform. So, even the copycat can succeed if it is able to provide the best service than the Originals.

Many of them just recreate what common people use or they see succeed because they want to replicate what success gotten by the one they copied this is the reason why we mostly seen casino offered almost the same games with other. But it will all vary depends on how the casino perform and how they put some efforts on marketing, then putting active guys to solve problem which is main concern by almost all of us since this one could give them one step to success.

There are no games that differentiate each casino because almost same provider , same games and same theme .

What will made them different from one? but their site itself  at least having your own design will make you aside from others.
and also how you will handle the players problem because this is the main reason why people stay or leave casino because of their support experience and of course withdrawals.

[wiss19]

Many of them just recreate what common people use or they see succeed because they want to replicate what success gotten by the one they copied this is the reason why we mostly seen casino offered almost the same games with other. But it will all vary depends on how the casino perform and how they put some efforts on marketing, then putting active guys to solve problem which is main concern by almost all of us since this one could give them one step to success.

There are no games that differentiate each casino because almost same provider , same games and same theme .

What will made them different from one? but their site itself  at least having your own design will make you aside from others.
and also how you will handle the players problem because this is the main reason why people stay or leave casino because of their support experience and of course withdrawals.

I think on the past, many crypto casinos don't hire gaming providers but they just create their own games. Eventually, these gaming providers have become a thing and many new casinos are just following the trend. I guess this is because it's much easier and players aren't bothered with this either. Casinos can still differ in other things. You have already given a few of them.

Having a decent bonus is also what attracts some of the players to play regularly on that gambling site. There is also casinos which has a license on them and the others don't have. Yet these casinos are still in demand because they are the casinos that don't usually don't ask for a KYC.

[Hamphser]

With gambling platforms beyond certain point it isn't possible to innovate things. Maybe the interface and the colour schemes can be varied. In that way everything is a copycat. With different games, maybe the providers can vary. With sports betting, the odds can have slight variation. These days the success of the gambling sites were much on the trust it have got and the support and interest the service provider takes in solving an acquisition against the platform. So, even the copycat can succeed if it is able to provide the best service than the Originals.

Many of them just recreate what common people use or they see succeed because they want to replicate what success gotten by the one they copied this is the reason why we mostly seen casino offered almost the same games with other. But it will all vary depends on how the casino perform and how they put some efforts on marketing, then putting active guys to solve problem which is main concern by almost all of us since this one could give them one step to success.

There are no games that differentiate each casino because almost same provider , same games and same theme .

What will made them different from one? but their site itself  at least having your own design will make you aside from others.
and also how you will handle the players problem because this is the main reason why people stay or leave casino because of their support experience and of course withdrawals.

Agreeing on that same provider and same games and same theme which had been always the case or what we are seeing even into those newly launched casinos which are almost the same when it comes to game
offering which there's not really that much interest if you are someone who had been playing or dealing into this crypto space specially with gambling platforms.If you do see something not different then
you would be surely get bored and you would be staying on the site you are currently dealing up with.We've been flooded out by lots of casino platforms but with having that experienced eyes and having
that awareness which you could really differentiate which one is legit and which one is just trying out to scam users. Copying design and overall and there are even who do forget
to edit the terms and conditions does really show not really that serious intent on running a business and just like the simple way.

[gunhell16]

~ The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Indeed, there are enough established and respected online casinos for us to play in. Why should we bother with some copycats? Even if they promise enormous bonuses, how can we be sure it's not a scam?

So, the first move, make your platform originally looking. Not many people are going to trust you otherwise.

You're right in what you said, it's even more doubtful if there are many bonuses and then it's too big, why don't they just imitate what other crypto gambling companies have done that have been successful in this industry by not making such a strategy just to get many communities to sustain their business in the crypto world.

For me, those copycats bother me to be honest. There really shouldn't be any more time wasted. Let's just play with what you know has been in the field of this industry for a long time

[ethereumhunter]

I read some incredible comments in this thread by people who has absolutely no clue :-) Exit scam of the casino... What ?

In regards to all the blatant copycats I can say only one thing, stay away. I opened this website "punt" and this is nearly a copyright infringement in my humble opinion. A business that cannot invest in it's own original design is simply laughable, the person who came here to this forum to promote this joke of a website should be ashamed of himself

of all the site we have here , you have just Punt in your mention when there are dozens of similar site that looks like scam in the end.

but yes why need to copycat when you can hire a designer to make one for you so reliability will be at look in your site.

if they cannot even invest in this amount then what more if there is a big winner in the future?

This could be related to their finances because hiring a designer and coder to create a site requires a lot of money. That's what led them to look for a casino site from the same developer as other casinos because maybe it will save costs and if they hire a designer and coder, it won't cost too much. Or copying other casino sites will make it easier for them to be recognized by other gamblers, so it won't take long to become famous. This depends on how a casino can serve its users well so that there won't be any problems later, even though their site imitates other casino sites.

But still that this is  one thing that will lead them to be trusted , if they will use design that only created for them and not a copycat like what most scammers do.

and besides if you invested in Casino online , you must also have that that capital to pay for design and advertising.

this is also why many reacted in the because of that accountability .

It all depends on how the casino can prove that they are not a fraud by copying other casino designs and it takes time and hard work from the team. If they can prove it, they will be a decent casino to be used as a place to play gambling. It's like we buy some designs from a designer who sells them in the market and modifying those designs to be what we want. And with hard work, we can prove to our customers that we are serious about running the business.

[bitterguy28]

People will ignore it out the fact that they just copy it from reputable casino and they will just think that why would they play on a copy one while they can spend their money playing on the original one so messing up with designs for not creating original ones will not result good because many gamblers will just label it as scam. To avoid such thing create fresh casino with various thing to offer which is not available to other competitor since this is more convincing to gambler to play on new introduce casino.

Arent we seeing some of sites which does have similar design in the market nowadays or at this moment? None right?

This do simply means that people doesnt really like on seeing copycats even if they are really that trying to improve their bonuses or tending to be that generous but still doubts and
trust isnt something that could really be avoided for people.Its really hard to trust nowadays specially on newly launched platforms which you cant really
tell whether they are just simply trying to scam out or just totally not that enough on getting peoples trust and ending up on failure.

and also , copycat sites nowadays are being broadcasted  as soon as people here find it out to warn bitcointalk users not to engage in those sites , because if they cannot provide funds for platform of their own so how about the winners once needed to withdraw?
remember that gambling business needs big amount of capital and this only shows them short on that matter so why need to trust them at all.

Yes  that is correct , our forum members are good in finding them and that are those why people here are now more concern about how this can be going , how people need to understand the risk in playing about the copycat sites .

this is my same strategy to wait first in the post of forum members specially those new casinos and find out how they are growing business and the manage to deal with players.

[btc78]

You're right in what you said, it's even more doubtful if there are many bonuses and then it's too big, why don't they just imitate what other crypto gambling companies have done that have been successful in this industry by not making such a strategy just to get many communities to sustain their business in the crypto world.

Promises are made to be broken , and also if it is too good to be true then mostly this is a scam.

try not to be lured in over expectation because this will lead you to losing.

For me, those copycats bother me to be honest. There really shouldn't be any more time wasted. Let's just play with what you know has been in the field of this industry for a long time

we have so many legit site here , why need to find other one that will make you lose in the end?

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

If you cannot trust a casino from abstaining from copycat behavior how sure are you to entrust them with their gambling service and your gambling deposit with them, this has to fo with what a newly established casino got to offer different from the ones we've been used to and if not this been meant i see no reason to change into a newly launched casino which is about copycats from what others are already giving, what drives gamblers is not the newness of a casino nor it copycats nature, but what it has got to deliver.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Many of them just recreate what common people use or they see succeed because they want to replicate what success gotten by the one they copied this is the reason why we mostly seen casino offered almost the same games with other. But it will all vary depends on how the casino perform and how they put some efforts on marketing, then putting active guys to solve problem which is main concern by almost all of us since this one could give them one step to success.

There are no games that differentiate each casino because almost same provider , same games and same theme .

What will made them different from one? but their site itself  at least having your own design will make you aside from others.
and also how you will handle the players problem because this is the main reason why people stay or leave casino because of their support experience and of course withdrawals.

I think on the past, many crypto casinos don't hire gaming providers but they just create their own games. Eventually, these gaming providers have become a thing and many new casinos are just following the trend. I guess this is because it's much easier and players aren't bothered with this either. Casinos can still differ in other things. You have already given a few of them.

Having a decent bonus is also what attracts some of the players to play regularly on that gambling site. There is also casinos which has a license on them and the others don't have. Yet these casinos are still in demand because they are the casinos that don't usually don't ask for a KYC.

well there if you are absolutely right, that is the case of freebitco.in, and that is something that can always be taken into account and will have a lot of advantage over other casinos, for me this is something that from the moment it was stopped create your own games or develop them, when the game providers came in is when what players don't like began and that is that they have full control of things, and those things are what we all know that No KYC is what the Most players search, and I have seen how casinos that are very good, when they ask for a lot of data at the beginning of registration, are really bounced by many.

[Oilacris]

If you cannot trust a casino from abstaining from copycat behavior how sure are you to entrust them with their gambling service and your gambling deposit with them, this has to fo with what a newly established casino got to offer different from the ones we've been used to and if not this been meant i see no reason to change into a newly launched casino which is about copycats from what others are already giving, what drives gamblers is not the newness of a casino nor it copycats nature, but what it has got to deliver.

But if people do find out that a copycat didnt only just copy  out their site design but entirely on the games offered then it would really be just normal that they would just simply skipping or avoiding it.

What for? they would really be making up some switch up if they do saw that they could play on things that they do like on the old site that they are dealing off with? Being new is not always been better,

also having that copycat reputation or saying will really play a big toll on a new business if they are really trying out to mimic an existing site.Its better to start with your
own unique way.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~ The truth is when I see a casino that is identical to another I leave and I don't go there anymore, although there is obviously the option that it be new people and that they don't know anything and that it wasn't their fault, that maybe they sold that type of environment in a casino, I prefer to pass and not go more than deposit and lose my money in a silly way, because a new casino must make a difference, be authentic by any measure, even have the best bonuses with the best wager possible, so that you can compare yourself against the big ones, such as stake.com, bitcasino.io, SB, among other casinos that are very reliable and highly reputable.

Indeed, there are enough established and respected online casinos for us to play in. Why should we bother with some copycats? Even if they promise enormous bonuses, how can we be sure it's not a scam?

So, the first move, make your platform originally looking. Not many people are going to trust you otherwise.

You're right in what you said, it's even more doubtful if there are many bonuses and then it's too big, why don't they just imitate what other crypto gambling companies have done that have been successful in this industry by not making such a strategy just to get many communities to sustain their business in the crypto world.

For me, those copycats bother me to be honest. There really shouldn't be any more time wasted. Let's just play with what you know has been in the field of this industry for a long time

The originality and the authenticity is incredible, but even we ourselves realize it, and that causes something that pleases everyone, this is something that can be taken into account for those platforms that are beginning to differentiate themselves from the rest, and that is something that pleases a lot, personally I think that many platforms always copy some Russians, the welcome bonuses, the big Wagers that in the end end up running away from the players, that is something that they do not see but they keep insisting on it, one of the things that I have seen What is very successful is that with Twitter they can be able to do many good things, from contests to very good raffles.

[QueenVera]

This is really a long piece to read. At some points I read and felt it was all about comparison and at the other point I read and felt a stake representative is already talking fine for stake which we all already know of its praises and don't need people preaching it again.
But in all I finally got your points and we should also know that unnecessary competition isn't necessarily and comparing ones 100 step to another's one thousand is insane because for example, stake has been in the crypto gambling space for long now and have been thriving well and already has a very strong community of people who they seek advice from.
One other thing I've noticed is the fact most of this new casinos are really trying their best but most of them don't start with a reasonable capital and don't plan their business very well and at the end crashes which is bad.
I hope when you lunch the casino you're talking about, you'll bring the necessary change you also desire to the industry?
Goodluck mate.

[btc78]

If you cannot trust a casino from abstaining from copycat behavior how sure are you to entrust them with their gambling service and your gambling deposit with them,

It is correctly , this is our money and if there are someone to be more protective about this? then it is only us so best to find the most suitable site to deposit and play.

this has to fo with what a newly established casino got to offer different from the ones we've been used to and if not this been meant i see no reason to change into a newly launched casino which is about copycats from what others are already giving, what drives gamblers is not the newness of a casino nor it copycats nature, but what it has got to deliver.

and if they cannot show the capacity of spending money from their own site , so how much they cannot spend releasing once players won big amount?

[minime0105]

When a casino is created it is possible that the people who buy everything, also buy the internal designs of the casinos, and if these people could have been fooled with a very iugal style, and there are some who must not have much experience and if They buy the environments because they trust the suppliers that design them. The bad thing is that to change a whole casino style, I imagine that it costs a lot of money and for that reason they leave them that way and prefer to take all the criticism, if the Spending a lot is not worth it, but it puts your entire reputation at risk, instead of receiving good reviews they can put bad things on you.

In this scenario, i will say that what i have to say in this aspect is that, it's obvious that a casino platform what it needs to function appropriately is having legitimate method or having a good or tangible reputation before it can have good followers, but to extend, i do check myself that any casino that doesn't have a good maintenance can it be trustworthy, if someone buy a casino platform, let it have in mind that it will undergoes many maintenance and design before it can functions effectively, because it might be that the past management might have unquestionable character, and you will like to ensure you have put them together.