1 - The copycat epidemic within crypto casinos.

[danadc]

I find this topic very interesting, I recently saw a new casino, and it was like the exact copy of another, so my question is the following; Is it normal that this is from a legitimate casino? and if it is legitimate it is because there is a provider of those casinos that are so similar to each other. Developers have many design options, so there is no reason that a casino that is going to be launched wants to do things very quickly and therefore they do not take into account what they are going to win, but rather the money they have to invest, and since there are people who launch themselves into this business almost without knowing or being active in casinos, this is what I think.

[Wexnident]

I find this topic very interesting, I recently saw a new casino, and it was like the exact copy of another, so my question is the following; Is it normal that this is from a legitimate casino? and if it is legitimate it is because there is a provider of those casinos that are so similar to each other. Developers have many design options, so there is no reason that a casino that is going to be launched wants to do things very quickly and therefore they do not take into account what they are going to win, but rather the money they have to invest, and since there are people who launch themselves into this business almost without knowing or being active in casinos, this is what I think.

If it was the exact same copy then their either under the same company of sorts or one of the other copied the exact same code somehow and published it on their own. Developers often just follow most of what is already developed, the most that would differ about them would be the UI designs but other than that they're generally the same imo. Now if a site has the exact same UI and backend, that's a copy, but if it felt like at the very least the UI changed, then it might just be the first scenario I said, or just a developer developing their own but by referencing that specific site, hence the similarity with minor differences.

[Silberman]

I actually asked "Eddie" from Stake.com during his weekly stream about the "friend" that opened a very similar casino to Stake.com and he said "not that I recall" ....but he also said that they are not too worried about sites copying their concept and that it was actually flattering that other people were doing this. (I guess, if you are printing money like them, you would not mind a lot if people copied you)

There are not a lot of big casino software developers out there, so I figure some people just buy a white label casino template from these guys and they just change the color scheme a little to fire up a new casino.  

To this I will add that is way easier to copy something than to create something new, it is because of this that most of the innovations that we see in the market of cryptocurrency casinos come from established casinos which can allow themselves to experiment a little bit and see if a particular game or feature becomes popular, but for those that are just starting their journey and they are trying to make a name for themselves in this industry this is way harder and as such they prefer to offer the games and features that everyone is offering already.

[davis196]

I think that the entire purpose of the copycat casinos is to end up being exit scams(well, most of them).
Your gambling business simply cannot survive in the long run, if your casino looks exactly the same as a bigger and well known casino.
Those copycat casino owners are in the business for the cash grab and the fast money from scamming.
There's a saying in marketing "A bad product can be sold only once." The same thing applies to copycat casinos. Such casinos can scam only once.
What matters the most in the gambling industry isn't the bonus structure or the casino web design. What matters the most is being good to your customers and building positive feedback. Maybe some copycat casino owners want to build a legit business, but at the end of the day, using a template makes you look unprofessional.

[traderethereum]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.
And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.
We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

[rodskee]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.

well , this becomes a questionable act as we have seen several times or many times that most of copycat casinos turns out scam , but of course I'm not saying all of them but at least most?

and besides if they are truly infront of business then surely they will use their money to create unique and out of others to find their own comfort and players.

And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.

well it is for them to prove , and if they really not intended the similarities then they will update their site to at least change something that will mark them differently .

We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

well that is the best way to deal with it.

[iv4n]

I don't think about whether the template of a casino site is almost the same as other casinos because if the new casino can provide comfort and security for its members, I don't think it will be a problem.
And as long as the new casino site can really do their best to build a new casino business and they are serious about it, we don't need to think further about why their site is similar to other casinos.
We might think about many possibilities while we don't know the truth, and if we really want to know the real answer, we better ask the new casino owner directly.
If we don't like all that and think copying designs from other casinos is not good, we don't need to play in that casino.

Well, in the 21st-century copies are something pretty normal! Everything is copied, and all copies sell well if they are good copies... So I definitely agree that casinos should be able to provide security and comfort for us players in the first place and if they decide to go with some design that is being already used it's a design, in the end, people can like it or not! Who like it will stay there and play, who doesn't will search for something different, it's a free world!

[khaled0111]

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I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

[DaveF]

Live casinos are the same way. 30+ years ago when the Mirage opened in Vegas everyone started building the more family friendly mega-resorts. And the change more and more of the games to more and more slots.

Then came the next wave of pools and clubs and such to vegas, and the gaming floor changed again and as soon as people saw it working the other casinos followed.

And so on. It's what works. We see what works and once it's figured out people follow it. What we don't remember are the ones that tried something different and for some reason did not do well. Might have been just bad luck, might have been the concept did not work, might have been another reason. But, once people see what is working everyone else follows.

Stepping back it's not just casinos, but everything. Look at movie theaters. All of a sudden they are putting in big comfy seats and adding more food options and so on. Why? Because a few tried it and found it worked and then everyone else is following.....

-Dave

[decodx]

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I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

It depends how you look at it. My opinion is that a copy can sometimes be better than the original, but this doesn't mean it will replace the original or become more popular. As for online casinos, I agree that each site should have a unique identity and seek a niche that makes it stand out. This is to ensure a more targeted user base. You want to attract people who are looking for a particular game or who love to try new things. A copycat casino might attract an audience initially, but it won't retain them, especially if it's just a copy of another site.

[Wiwo]

Recent invents and development have shown that many casinos copy templates from other existing casinos must especially the new casinos always copy the template of an already established and successful casino and seeing the resemblance with the casino to stake.com I quickly search to see if that is against the rules of casinos. But u see that they have not breezed any law of agreement. I have established a personal conclusion on the case and that is to watch as the event unfolds, stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and efforts will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

[South Park]

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I couldn't agree more!
If you wan't to be able compete with long standing casinos then better think of offering your customers something different and unique instead of copying any other casino no matter how successful they are.
A copy can never be better than the original and by doing this you limited your horizons and won't be able to achieve much.
It can be an option if you don't have enough bankroll and you are in rush to start your business but as soon as your customer base starts growing you need to do a full rebranding.

Without a doubt what you say makes sense however it is quite obvious that the casinos that choose to imitate or completely copy the design of a specific casino most likely are doing it for two reasons, the first one is that they know that such a design works and people find it easy to use, so they don't want to take the time to create an user interface as this is not only costly but time-consuming as well, the second reason is that maybe they are trying to deceive gamblers into believing that they are gambling in a website that is subsidiary to that casino, and in that case it is very likely that such a casino is trying to scam those people and the scammers behind it are just bidding their time.

[aioc]

...... stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and effort will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

The community may be aware of the similarity of both sites but when it comes to reputation and what the other has reached over the years there's a big difference, in my opinion, I don't care about the similarity I care about the reputation and achievement of the casino, there are white label and there are script developers that openly sell the rights of one script and if you bought it's not that nobody can buy that same script
because you bought it first, its still depend on your own configuration and how you establish your own site.

[coolcoinz]

I have to say you got mu attention OP. I'm curious to see that thing that will make your casino unique and if after that big talk you'll "walk the walk" as they say.

It's true that most casinos copy each other and there were big winners and big losers out there. I remember years ago casinos were actually competing even in the number of signature campaign participants. The campaigns had 50+ people in them as businesses were trying to flood the forum with their own ads. I feel like there's much less competition now and some players are already established while others who were here for a long time left the market, like yolodice.

Keep going, I hope you'll make a name for your business here and stay for good.

[Yogee]

...Some do try to reinvent the wheel but without sustainable income, they ultimately collapse. If players are ripping the site from left to right, it's all useless.

"Do not fix what's not broken" as the saying goes.

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Innovation is good but be careful not to tweak built systems that's been proven to be effective in an attempt to standout from the rest of the competition.

This innovation thing to be relevant is present in every industry. You can see them in brick and mortar businesses and in the crypto industry as well.

anyone can set-up their own site, however, not many can sustain and maintain their presence in the market. this is an open industry where everyone is free to do their own business. but the question is, can they survive in this competitive market? starting in any business is a very challenging period. it will give you an idea if they can make it or not. no need to reinvent the wheel, but how can you catch the interest of your potential players?

No doubt it's a competitive market that's why you see some people trying something new but still fails. It takes a lot to build reputation but these casinos can still do it even if they're just "copycatss". I think I'm not just speaking for myself when I say a competitive marketing promotion and a secure platform for players is a necessity. Players have to be happy with the perks and be confident their accounts won't be compromised. A fair and clear terms and condition is also a must.

Another basic is provably fair games. This would have been at the top of the list but I see a crypto casino that don't have this on their in-house games...yet they seem to be doing well.

[Fatunad]

...... stake.com is already a big casino but punt.com, on the other hand, is just starting and needs a lot of work in building its reputation, and in doing that only time and effort will decide how long it will remain in business because gambling is a highly competitive industry.

The community may be aware of the similarity of both sites but when it comes to reputation and what the other has reached over the years there's a big difference, in my opinion, I don't care about the similarity I care about the reputation and achievement of the casino, there are white label and there are script developers that openly sell the rights of one script and if you bought it's not that nobody can buy that same script
because you bought it first, its still depend on your own configuration and how you establish your own site.

Longevity is one of the indication on  where people must trust up even more and of course they would really be going into those platforms which had been running for more long years compared to another
which it would be needing some common sense for you to say that you would be sticking into something which had existed longer because it is understandable that duration or time does really able
to prove out that they've been supported and been played by the gambling community.Yes, majority is really just the same in overall offering but only differ when it comes to design
and with some little few tweaks on to their games.

[harizen]

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

[n0ne]

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

Agreed, "Nothing Beats The Original" and disregard of the design elements the success depends over the support system and the reputation the platform gain through its service. The initial point is very important, getting into copycat platforms isn't a big issue, getting into phising sites is big issue. Be cautious while getting into a gambling or exchange platform. Cross check the url, because more phising sites with same resemblance are seen around.

[traderethereum]

well , this becomes a questionable act as we have seen several times or many times that most of copycat casinos turns out scam , but of course I'm not saying all of them but at least most?

and besides if they are truly infront of business then surely they will use their money to create unique and out of others to find their own comfort and players.

That's the point of choosing a casino site that can really be trusted so that we don't have to be scammed.
Maybe, in this case, the feeling will help us choose the casino because, with our experience, at least it can help us avoid fraud.
A good casino will prioritize its users in providing comfort and service to them, which will make the casino a recommended casino.

well it is for them to prove , and if they really not intended the similarities then they will update their site to at least change something that will mark them differently .

They can also stay what we see while continuing to strive that they can prove to be a recommended casino.
It depends on how they can do it and it takes time.

Well, in the 21st-century copies are something pretty normal! Everything is copied, and all copies sell well if they are good copies... So I definitely agree that casinos should be able to provide security and comfort for us players in the first place and if they decide to go with some design that is being already used it's a design, in the end, people can like it or not! Who like it will stay there and play, who doesn't will search for something different, it's a free world!

That's right. When we are on the internet, we certainly see there are lots of similarities that exist on many websites.
We know that some developers sell lots of templates and create and sell them.
This developer has work that is a best seller in the gambling business so this will be bought by the casino owner and copied. But some parts are replaced and adapted to the casino's purpose, logo or anything related.
It is up to the people whether they will like it or not and it is not a compulsion for them to play in that casino or look for other casinos.

[adzino]

Yeah, they mimic other casinos. As long as they are legit and are actually paying their players, then it is fine. But I don't know why they copy other casinos. Probably because they feel it is less riskier to build/make completely new than to copy something existing. This way there is a low chance of messing up things and they will be able to attract users from those casinos (people tend to play on casinos that they are familiar with). But then again, as more casinos starts to copy each other, more competition will build up, causing them to gain less users.

Creating something new and unique might be hard and risky, but it is worth the risk.