I need advice from experienced users of this forum

[robelneo]

I think for Mbit, this case is close and there is no further discussion needed.  Going for legal action will cause too much but in case OP wins, the expenses will be shouldered by the casino plus the possible charges of damages and interest of money for the delay.  So if you think you have an advantage if you take the legal path then go for it.  I hope you win the case @OP.  Though another challenge is, where will you file the case?

And I agree it's very challenging to file a case, there are other complainants that have lost money that is two or three times what you've lost, its not that you cannot get back to the casino if you think they gave you a wrong ruling, and the community is backing you then spread awareness on how that particular casino made a bad ruling in your case, players will be more aware and keep away from that casino or if they are going to play they are not playing with a big amount, there are going to lose some revenues because of this.

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[Jody.Drummer]

Could you help me with this? Tell me how to do it correctly. I will be very grateful for any advice and details. I believe that such things cannot be left just like that and we need to fight to the last. I would also like as many people as possible to find out about the dishonest behavior of the MBit casino and not repeat my mistakes.

This problem cannot be solved by all parties, as many suggest at least you are better off leaving the casino and no longer in contact with them than fighting but having to pay more and not worth what you spend at the casino. unless you have strong internal support and can sue the casino with all the same accusations and complaints other users have. There's not much we can do other than provide that advice and stay away from casinos that have harmed you or even others.

[goldkingcoiner]

Do you have "proof" of them confirming that KYC was fine/went through? If so, feel free to PM me and I will reach out to them, trying to help.

Given the circumstances and new evidences I think OP does not seem to have sufficient proof of passing KYC. Maybe he used a VPN or maybe it was because of some other activities that the casino regards as suspicious.

Getting the money will be very difficult and might not even be possible if OP is at fault.

Furthermore using Skype for his KYC process seems very sketchy and I don't really know what to think of that.

Let's hope OP followed the casino rules and everything was a misunderstanding, otherwise he won't see his money again.

That's what's a bit difficult when it's proven that OP is really the one with the shortcoming. And I think you're right, OP can use a VPN and that's probably the reason why his KYC declined. It's also quite a large amount just in case.

Because that's really strange because he talked via Skype and it's not clear to me why OP was not approved, it's really strange. We don't know who is telling the truth between the two if OP or the Management of the gambling platform.

I completely agree with that but I think that would still not hinder OP from getting at least the money back that he initially used to place the bets. Although I am not 100% sure since I am not certain of the laws around those circumstances.

I have never heard of anyone who got caught breaking the terms and conditions to be given their initial money back though.

Sounds fair for to me though. OP should be more careful next time and read the casino rules first.

[dezoel]

I think for Mbit, this case is close and there is no further discussion needed.  Going for legal action will cause too much but in case OP wins, the expenses will be shouldered by the casino plus the possible charges of damages and interest of money for the delay.  So if you think you have an advantage if you take the legal path then go for it.  I hope you win the case @OP.  Though another challenge is, where will you file the case?

And I agree it's very challenging to file a case, there are other complainants that have lost money that is two or three times what you've lost, its not that you cannot get back to the casino if you think they gave you a wrong ruling, and the community is backing you then spread awareness on how that particular casino made a bad ruling in your case, players will be more aware and keep away from that casino or if they are going to play they are not playing with a big amount, there are going to lose some revenues because of this.

16045 doge is 1004.33 usd on today's rate. It may look small to us but maybe this amount is already huge to him and this might be his first time to win an amount like this but unfortunately, this have happened. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

[coin-investor]

. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

[AmoreJaz]

. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

this is the advantage of the gamblers who are members of this forum. since we have the gambling boards, one can already have the insights on which casinos are having good reputation to play with. unfortunately, some players will just visit this forum once they got screwed. also, better stick with casinos or bookies which has active support. and as much as possible no existing complaint or allegations. for new users here, you can easily check the reputation by checking the trust summary of their rep.

[Silberman]

16045 doge is 1004.33 usd on today's rate. It may look small to us but maybe this amount is already huge to him and this might be his first time to win an amount like this but unfortunately, this have happened. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

1004 USD is a big amount in our country.
This amount can benefit  almost 5/6 middle class with the whole month grocery.
you are a financially sound person to call this amount small amount. For others it is a very big amount.

That is without a doubt an amount of money that not many people can afford to lose, however when it comes to trying to take some sort of legal action against a casino then it is probably not worth it to try to do so for an amount that is so small, I say this because most likely it is going to cost you way more money on legal fees than what you're hoping to recover, many scammers know this which is why they can keep doing this over and over again and then nothing happens to them.

[virasog]

16045 doge is 1004.33 usd on today's rate. It may look small to us but maybe this amount is already huge to him and this might be his first time to win an amount like this but unfortunately, this have happened. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

1004 USD is a big amount in our country.
This amount can benefit  almost 5/6 middle class with the whole month grocery.
you are a financially sound person to call this amount small amount. For others it is a very big amount.

That is without a doubt an amount of money that not many people can afford to lose, however when it comes to trying to take some sort of legal action against a casino then it is probably not worth it to try to do so for an amount that is so small, I say this because most likely it is going to cost you way more money on legal fees than what you're hoping to recover, many scammers know this which is why they can keep doing this over and over again and then nothing happens to them.

The OP should know that there is a risk in gambling, and he should be ready for any unpleasant situation. 1000$ is good money and I can understand his frustration and concern about it but the gambling houses does not care for anyone.

If he somehow did not get his money back, he learned an expensive lesson as not to play at random sites and choose only trusted sites for gambling. Also, when you invest any amount in gambling, think it's gone and if you manage to win and withdraw, you are lucky indeed.

[rhomelmabini]

This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

this is the advantage of the gamblers who are members of this forum. since we have the gambling boards, one can already have the insights on which casinos are having good reputation to play with. unfortunately, some players will just visit this forum once they got screwed. also, better stick with casinos or bookies which has active support. and as much as possible no existing complaint or allegations. for new users here, you can easily check the reputation by checking the trust summary of their rep.

Exactly, any members who want to try to interact with a casino should have researched first and check the credibility of the casino rather than just testing both of your two feets. Even just by searching the keyword of the casino will give you a lot of insight and reviews from forum members as long as that casino is also known here already, because if it's not, that will be difficult to track it down.

[peter0425]

. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

this is the advantage of the gamblers who are members of this forum. since we have the gambling boards, one can already have the insights on which casinos are having good reputation to play with. unfortunately, some players will just visit this forum once they got screwed. also, better stick with casinos or bookies which has active support. and as much as possible no existing complaint or allegations. for new users here, you can easily check the reputation by checking the trust summary of their rep.

and this is why we are all lucky being here because the chance of being a victim of those scam sites or being fooled by the casinos are little , because the internet is truly a bad place to search for yourself as  they are using their power and money to mislead people and to take their money.
sorry but lets not help those sites to take our money from this.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

I think for Mbit, this case is close and there is no further discussion needed.  Going for legal action will cause too much but in case OP wins, the expenses will be shouldered by the casino plus the possible charges of damages and interest of money for the delay.  So if you think you have an advantage if you take the legal path then go for it.  I hope you win the case @OP.  Though another challenge is, where will you file the case?

If the problem faced by @OP is already in legal action, I hope the case ends as soon as possible because the amount of money that OP is chasing is not a joke, OP is a bit angry with his opponent right now, but I hope so he will win, the lawyer he got is good.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

[kotajikikox]

. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

but that is the problem about many gamblers as they are not tend to check rules and info about the gambling instead what they are looking is the bonuses given towards advertising and those are the reason why they are being lured .

I think for Mbit, this case is close and there is no further discussion needed.  Going for legal action will cause too much but in case OP wins, the expenses will be shouldered by the casino plus the possible charges of damages and interest of money for the delay.  So if you think you have an advantage if you take the legal path then go for it.  I hope you win the case @OP.  Though another challenge is, where will you file the case?

If the problem faced by @OP is already in legal action, I hope the case ends as soon as possible because the amount of money that OP is chasing is not a joke, OP is a bit angry with his opponent right now, but I hope so he will win, the lawyer he got is good.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

wrong mate, it is not that big amount  but enough to be considered as scamc asino once this does not comply and returned what they owned Him.

[bitterguy28]

16045 doge is 1004.33 usd on today's rate. It may look small to us but maybe this amount is already huge to him and this might be his first time to win an amount like this but unfortunately, this have happened. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

1004 USD is a big amount in our country.
This amount can benefit  almost 5/6 middle class with the whole month grocery.
you are a financially sound person to call this amount small amount. For others it is a very big amount.

That is without a doubt an amount of money that not many people can afford to lose, however when it comes to trying to take some sort of legal action against a casino then it is probably not worth it to try to do so for an amount that is so small, I say this because most likely it is going to cost you way more money on legal fees than what you're hoping to recover, many scammers know this which is why they can keep doing this over and over again and then nothing happens to them.

that is what matters here ,  the amount of money to seek for is far small from how much he can use for running after the scammed funds and besides the site he was calling for had already left this community (though there is a newbie account that bumped the site recently) so What i believe here is that OP will never take his funds forever here.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

sometimes our mistakes will bring us big lesson for this not to happen again.

[ethereumhunter]

If the problem faced by @OP is already in legal action, I hope the case ends as soon as possible because the amount of money that OP is chasing is not a joke, OP is a bit angry with his opponent right now, but I hope so he will win, the lawyer he got is good.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

Not just a lesson for @OP but us too because we can learn from him that casinos can do anything to their users, especially if the casino suspects its users of trespassing or cheating. It's natural for @OP to be angry and maybe we will do the same as @OP did, especially if we can't withdraw the huge winnings. But he should think about finding a lawyer who can really help him but I don't think the fee will be cheap. Hopefully there is a way for @OP to solve the problem.

[Jody.Drummer]

If the problem faced by @OP is already in legal action, I hope the case ends as soon as possible because the amount of money that OP is chasing is not a joke, OP is a bit angry with his opponent right now, but I hope so he will win, the lawyer he got is good.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

Not just a lesson for @OP but us too because we can learn from him that casinos can do anything to their users, especially if the casino suspects its users of trespassing or cheating. It's natural for @OP to be angry and maybe we will do the same as @OP did, especially if we can't withdraw the huge winnings. But he should think about finding a lawyer who can really help him but I don't think the fee will be cheap. Hopefully there is a way for @OP to solve the problem.

Hiring a lawyer to settle a case with a casino is not easy. Apart from fees, the fact is that a casino without a reputation can at any time decide the casino or cover up evidence. In this case, the OP will be overwhelmed and will not do much to raise the case to the public domain. Apart from that, the solution is to drop the lawsuit and no longer have anything to do with the casino that doesn't have a responsible service. Based on the OP's case above, it's clear that if he goes to trial and hires a lawyer, the problem is does the OP get confirmation that the casino is ready to sue? Of course it is difficult especially if the casino does not have a physical office.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Hello. I really need advice from knowledgeable and experienced people like you, so I decided to turn to you. In short, I have an unpleasant situation with the MBit casino. You can read the details here if you are interested. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409934.new#new

I filed a complaint on several sites, like GURU and AskGamblers, but none of them gave any results. However, I don't want to give up, as casino representatives behave dishonestly towards me. I want to try to file a complaint against the license provider. In other threads with fraud accusations, I have seen similar advice.

Could you help me with this? Tell me how to do it correctly. I will be very grateful for any advice and details. I believe that such things cannot be left just like that and we need to fight to the last. I would also like as many people as possible to find out about the dishonest behavior of the MBit casino and not repeat my mistakes.

Others suggested you to add screenshot and proofs. If you have those, then edit the original post and add it there so everyone can see the proofs instead of having to dig through the thread.

Anyway, if the casino you played in is a licensed casinos, then contact their license provider. Look for the license seal around the site. If you can't find it, then google the license name and then visit the website. There should be an option to file a formal complaint against the casino. You can try that. The license provider will forward your issue to the casino. If they don't reply or say anything, contact the license provider again stating that they are ignoring your case.

I agree with this, if you do not have screenshots it is very difficult, because they can claim that this is not the case and without proof it is your word against theirs, and believe me, the word of a player hardly has weight over that of a casino, more if that casino is supported, it is somewhat difficult, I do not know if you have read some things in Reputation here in the forum, it would be good if you went there so you could see how some people are capable of defending their cases and here they get the support with the people who are in DT1 and they are a great help in these cases, because they are totally impartial and their voice does have weight here and outside the forum.

[DoublerHunter]

From the definition gambling it suppose to understand that gambling is a game of whatever you achieve or you see you take because the way I'm seeing gambling, it's something we believe that if we lose is of our benefit and if we gain is of our benefit, which i believe that no body that gambling and get lost will say it's unaware to the person, i stand on what you say because op should understand that.

Partially you right, but I'm making a little correction or addition to you, because the way you people seen gambling is not the way it's, gambling is like a political race which is basically on luck and interest with a big strategic point you can be use to man over the methods of the game, because i believe that gambling itself if you don't have a wisdom you can't play any digital gambling, because it's involve strategies as i said before.

^ It is pretty simple and it is a very basic answer, we don't need to scratch our heads thinking about gambling.
It is simple if you have enough funds that can afford to gamble either win or lose then, that is fine.
Gambling is a form based on luck usually so don't expect too much to gain more profit on it. However, we are far from the OP concern which is the MBit gambling casino, probably OP did not understand that once you agree with the ToS it means you agree to their terms and they have a right to it.

[LUCKMCFLY]

. This thread can serve as an awareness or a warning that people should be careful about mbit because they have unresolved cases.

No one in their right minds will take a risk on this casino even if we say they will only gamble with small amount and only playing for fun. We have hundreds of legit casinos on the forum so why will they prioritize this one? Mbit already know the consequences so don't worry about them. They deserve it anyway.

To be able to play safe and have peace of mind whenever you win a big amount, get an update on the casino you're playing, check its status for existing complaints and if the casino is clean and has a good reputation then be sure to follow the TOS of the casino, this is a basic play on a good casino and follow its TOS and you'll have peace of mind, other than these, you'll get yourself in trouble.

this is the advantage of the gamblers who are members of this forum. since we have the gambling boards, one can already have the insights on which casinos are having good reputation to play with. unfortunately, some players will just visit this forum once they got screwed. also, better stick with casinos or bookies which has active support. and as much as possible no existing complaint or allegations. for new users here, you can easily check the reputation by checking the trust summary of their rep.

and this is why we are all lucky being here because the chance of being a victim of those scam sites or being fooled by the casinos are little , because the internet is truly a bad place to search for yourself as  they are using their power and money to mislead people and to take their money.
sorry but lets not help those sites to take our money from this.

Well, and this is a way to spread the word of bitcointalk to our friends, to those who are gamers, to those who want to invest, to those who want to be traders, to those who want to recognize anything related to cryptocurrencies and especially to those who are looking for information about betting, since it is very difficult to find books that talk about betting and everything you have to do to have a good performance, how you can start playing and not fall into addiction, gambling is the greatest danger that everyone can suffer if they do not have the relevant education and especially if they do not have control of their money and expenses.

[ethereumhunter]

If the problem faced by @OP is already in legal action, I hope the case ends as soon as possible because the amount of money that OP is chasing is not a joke, OP is a bit angry with his opponent right now, but I hope so he will win, the lawyer he got is good.

And I hope this will be a lesson to the OP when he overcomes this issue as well.

Not just a lesson for @OP but us too because we can learn from him that casinos can do anything to their users, especially if the casino suspects its users of trespassing or cheating. It's natural for @OP to be angry and maybe we will do the same as @OP did, especially if we can't withdraw the huge winnings. But he should think about finding a lawyer who can really help him but I don't think the fee will be cheap. Hopefully there is a way for @OP to solve the problem.

Hiring a lawyer to settle a case with a casino is not easy. Apart from fees, the fact is that a casino without a reputation can at any time decide the casino or cover up evidence. In this case, the OP will be overwhelmed and will not do much to raise the case to the public domain. Apart from that, the solution is to drop the lawsuit and no longer have anything to do with the casino that doesn't have a responsible service. Based on the OP's case above, it's clear that if he goes to trial and hires a lawyer, the problem is does the OP get confirmation that the casino is ready to sue? Of course it is difficult especially if the casino does not have a physical office.

Besides that, I think there are not too many lawyers who can help him solve the problem because the case was happening on the internet. Not all lawyers are very familiar with dealing with case-related issues from the internet; if there is a lawyer who can, it won't be cheap. This is why @OP needs to search carefully because we don't know the lawyer. And if the casino also wants to file a lawsuit against the case, it could get @OP into trouble because, of course, the casino can hire a reliable casino to help him out of trouble. Hopefully, he can think about it again and decide what's best for him.

[peter0425]

From the definition gambling it suppose to understand that gambling is a game of whatever you achieve or you see you take because the way I'm seeing gambling, it's something we believe that if we lose is of our benefit and if we gain is of our benefit, which i believe that no body that gambling and get lost will say it's unaware to the person, i stand on what you say because op should understand that.

Partially you right, but I'm making a little correction or addition to you, because the way you people seen gambling is not the way it's, gambling is like a political race which is basically on luck and interest with a big strategic point you can be use to man over the methods of the game, because i believe that gambling itself if you don't have a wisdom you can't play any digital gambling, because it's involve strategies as i said before.

having a mentor is very important and its good if you have a real person who can help you when you are in trouble
Alongside - do good research and try to make good. moves. Because they will not be reserved. Take small steps - BUT - take wise steps.

Yes having mentor it will help you to give you an easy description, because when looking at it, even your mentor might not be successful in the gamblling, because looking for the narrative of minime0105 you will know that it's some how correct but not as much as hundred percent, gambling is by the grace and experience

we are all lucky to have mentor when we are beginners, i tried following my friends thoughts and advise along the way and yes , I become successful but of course everything has negative effect as i become addicted gambler those days, and all my crypto earning had lost in gambling.
maybe find a mentor that will keep beside you specially when you starts earning because this is the crucial part of earning in this online area.