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September 17, 2022, 02:59:27 AM
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Banks take advantage of the inability of their customers to store their savings and offer them services on that basis. As long as bank users are ignorant of the ways in which they can save and use their savings independently, banks will maintain their vital and active role. Bitcoin represents a solution capable of canceling the banking philosophy, but it remains technically complex and not accessible to everyone, so it is required to develop its mechanisms to deal with users with limited technical ability .
Lets just accept the fact that there are people whom do really stick out on traditional banking system or simply with those traditional things that they've been dealing since from the start and wont really be welcoming
for any changes or innovations around.There might be some considerations or usage but not on the essence that they would be completely changing up their ways on to those transactions.
Bitcoin does have that market which do serves out its purpose for those who do value much about anonymity and decentralization.It doesnt really need up that kind of changing
because it is really just enough on the features that it does currently have.
In the future, changing times will require everyone to change their attitude, or for those who still think conventionally about the function of banks, they will certainly be displaced by the emergence of the millennial generation that follows the times. therefore the process will continue until finally the time and situation require to change the banking system that can be accessed independently and managed independently, and each is accountable, we will just have to wait for that time to come

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September 17, 2022, 03:15:29 AM
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Banks are adopting which we were wrong in thinking they'd be iirelevant one day when cryptocurrency is adopted. If they all have stablecoins like the USDT, they'd be trusted by the customers who had been their clients for years.

If BTC is here to stay so are banks. They may probably become an exchange.

Stable coins at this moment in time are the stupidest investment for a USA citizen.

I Bond on April 1 2022 pays 9.62% for six months.

You can buy up to 10k.

every usa citizen can buy up to 10k

a possible total of 3.3 trillion  dollars every year.

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on oct 1 new rate it will be over 8%

this simply creates lots of pressure against all stable coins.

I can do all of this online with a bank account like chase and a treasury account.

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why on earth stake eth or hold a stable coin?

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as long as rates are this high all crypto will suffer.

stack the i bonds till rates crash then sell them and buy back into crypto as it heats up.

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September 17, 2022, 03:35:01 AM
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Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink

It's nonsense, because it's the other way round. Banks are partly doing that as a reaction to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. It is not the only reason, because adapting to digital has other advantages.

Firstly, it is imposed by the times, society is becoming increasingly digitalised. It also helps them to reduce costs, in terms of staff and offices. And finally, it helps them to reduce the use of cash and its possible disappearance in the future, which makes their mouths water.

Bitcoin has unique properties that a bank will not be able to counter, no matter how much it modernises.

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September 17, 2022, 03:58:55 AM
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Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink
Bitcoin and the banking system of our current time can not be compared, to me, I feel this are two different systems headed towards different directions, but out to solve one problem, and that problem is money.
Bitcoin is the new innovation and has indeed, made a very nice progress.
The banking system trying now to re-innovate by come out with online banking is like pouring an old wine in a new bottle, only those who are new to the system will fall for that trick, bitcoin is making a very nice progress in winning the hearts of the people, it's just a Matter of time.

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September 17, 2022, 04:43:31 AM
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Banks take advantage of the inability of their customers to store their savings and offer them services on that basis. As long as bank users are ignorant of the ways in which they can save and use their savings independently, banks will maintain their vital and active role. Bitcoin represents a solution capable of canceling the banking philosophy, but it remains technically complex and not accessible to everyone, so it is required to develop its mechanisms to deal with users with limited technical ability .
Lets just accept the fact that there are people whom do really stick out on traditional banking system or simply with those traditional things that they've been dealing since from the start and wont really be welcoming
for any changes or innovations around.There might be some considerations or usage but not on the essence that they would be completely changing up their ways on to those transactions.
Bitcoin does have that market which do serves out its purpose for those who do value much about anonymity and decentralization.It doesnt really need up that kind of changing
because it is really just enough on the features that it does currently have.
This is key, even if bitcoin is a great innovation in the field of money many people are simply not going to be able to adapt to it, they're going to see in bitcoin and its inability to chargeback transactions something they don't like, after all this is a safety net for them and if they happen to make a mistake they can always call their bank to help, in bitcoin this isn't possible, if you get hacked or you make a mistake those coins are basically lost, so we'll need a generational change so people aren't as used to those protections and people are able to accept the paradigm shift of being their own banks.
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Banks take advantage of the inability of their customers to store their savings and offer them services on that basis. As long as bank users are ignorant of the ways in which they can save and use their savings independently, banks will maintain their vital and active role. Bitcoin represents a solution capable of canceling the banking philosophy, but it remains technically complex and not accessible to everyone, so it is required to develop its mechanisms to deal with users with limited technical ability .
Lets just accept the fact that there are people whom do really stick out on traditional banking system or simply with those traditional things that they've been dealing since from the start and wont really be welcoming
for any changes or innovations around.There might be some considerations or usage but not on the essence that they would be completely changing up their ways on to those transactions.
Bitcoin does have that market which do serves out its purpose for those who do value much about anonymity and decentralization.It doesnt really need up that kind of changing
because it is really just enough on the features that it does currently have.
He is not required to make drastic changes. And at all, it will not be able to do this alone due to its decentralized nature.
Developers on the blockchain network can provide a variety of media that facilitate the process of understanding and use and ensure a high degree of protection. There are actually those who are working on this, but most of them are active under a central cover to necessarily achieve personal benefits, and this is what slows down the development process. The opposite of what happens with the banking system that supports many developers working under its command to reach the goals in a shorter time and extend the life of banking services for a longer time .
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September 18, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
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Bitcoin and the banking system of our current time can not be compared, to me, I feel this are two different systems headed towards different directions, but out to solve one problem, and that problem is money.
Bitcoin is the new innovation and has indeed, made a very nice progress.
The banking system trying now to re-innovate by come out with online banking is like pouring an old wine in a new bottle, only those who are new to the system will fall for that trick, bitcoin is making a very nice progress in winning the hearts of the people, it's just a Matter of time.
Banks could see Bitcoin as its highest competitor so as many adaptions and innovations appear, it also innovates its system to be more competitive towards it. But as for me, banks have a higher trust rate but Bitcoin has an edge when it comes to a profitable investment. People still have the freedom to choose the kind of progress and innovation that they want. For me, I would rather focus on the assurance of better profit in the coming days.
He just said that both aren't related. I think I'll agree with that but maybe some people can't, just like the people behind banking. They haven't use a btc or properly done a research but they can end up with a conclusion that btc is the biggest rival of them.

It's normal for btc to get an adaption and innovation because they are newer compared to the banks which are already been there ever since, and they already experienced the same thing so they shouldn't be jealous on what btc is going through or achieving lately. For now many banks is more trusted but once btc became really known then that view will change as banks are also involved in some issues.

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Crypto currency should take a control over the bank.Crypto currency was adopted by most of the people around the world.So all the people had the crypto currency as like the dollars.So it’s right time to have some adoption of crypto currency by the bank.Unless bank take the control of the crypto currency,the crypto currency take over the bank.

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The Banking industry now realized that the traditional Brick n Mortar Banking model are outdated and expensive, so they are closing a lot of their Brick n mortar branches and moving towards an online Banking alternative. They are not waiting for "digital" technologies to disrupt their business.... they are actively changing their whole operation.

Generation Z is a lot more digitally savvy than Millennials, so their target market are changing ...and they are changing to adapt to the changing customer needs.

They also realized that Brick n mortar operations are very expensive to operate and that those expenses has to be funded by high fees. The competition in the form of alternative digital payment offerings and Bitcoin's "Be your own Bank" principle....added to the threat of not having these high fees.

Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink


Yes,, maybe nowadays there are a lot of people who are constantly nagging bitcoin and the lack of innovation, it is not easy and to say the truth is not to be expected with bitcoin at this stage. The core team behind this new bank transaction and even VISA/Mastercard are working in the background with other tech companies to integrate their platforms with bitcoin, so when the time comes you may not see or feel it, but bitcoin will be ready for scalability.

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Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink

It would be great if crypto currencies take a more leading role in the financial service industry. The banking model is outdated and will disappear eventually. I see this my own city where only old people still go to the bank and talk to the employees. Among my friends everybody is using a direct bank that only operates online, it's faster and cheaper. The second most important feature after providing credit and debit cards, is to offer loans. Especially now during economic difficult times the access to loans is very important. Maybe bitcoins could help to offer services in that area. Many HODL investors are looking for ways to earn passive income, this would be a good match for people looking for loans.
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Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink

It would be great if crypto currencies take a more leading role in the financial service industry. The banking model is outdated and will disappear eventually. I see this my own city where only old people still go to the bank and talk to the employees. Among my friends everybody is using a direct bank that only operates online, it's faster and cheaper. The second most important feature after providing credit and debit cards, is to offer loans. Especially now during economic difficult times the access to loans is very important. Maybe bitcoins could help to offer services in that area. Many HODL investors are looking for ways to earn passive income, this would be a good match for people looking for loans.
We need a generational change, it as simple as that, I have noticed as well that those which are younger do not like to go to the bank and prefer to settle everything online, while those which are older have a preference to do everything on the banks and avoid settling things online or on the phone, but this model is outdated as it is simply too costly to maintain, which is why bitcoin has a huge advantage over traditional banks as it has no need to keep a physical presence anywhere in order to fulfill the needs of those which have decided to adopt bitcoin.
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We don't think bitcoin should innovate as fiat currency banks are starting to make some improvements, bitcoin has nothing to do specifically with anything, let alone a form of state run bank. Bitcoin innovation is not done for banking reasons, but the increasing demand for a more open and accepting community of bitcoin. Because people know that bitcoin is the best investment solution.
So there is very little connection between Bitcoin and BANKING, as people associate today.

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Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink
Of course we want Bitcoin to remain on the cutting edge of modern innovation. However, it does not necessarily stand if we do not have great power. For example, cohesiveness and adoption rates are still more. Marked by activities such as those carried out by countries that have adopted Bitcoin. They started so well that they formed a force where even banks didn't interfere with Bitcoin. Disturbing in terms of individual control over their money. Or maybe in the future, the Bank will also make peace with Bitcoin. It is possible when the younger generation who currently controls technology and innovation emerges from those who know the potential of Bitcoin, they can slip an understanding of how important Bitcoin is in the future.

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Banks must immediately improve and adapt to changes, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies users are increasingly active, a bank system that has too many rules will go bankrupt if it cannot accept bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, I believe the impact of cryptocurrencies will be felt and hit banks in 10 years.
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The increasing development of bitcoin makes many banks owners worry, even countries that have full control of the economy choose banned, they think that the decentralization system brought by Bitcoin will damage the national economic order so that they do everything possible to stop Bitcoin.
Unfortunately for them bitcoin was specifically designed to be exceptionally resistant to any kind of censorship, I will not deny that if bitcoin was banned all over the world its price will go down and the rate of adoption will drop at an amazing speed, but even with all of that I still think the popularity bitcoin will keep growing because it is becoming more and more difficult to hide the fact that the fiat system that is currently in place is showing signals of failure already, and people will do what they can in order to protect themselves, even if at some point that means disobeying the law.
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The increasing development of bitcoin makes many banks owners worry, even countries that have full control of the economy choose banned, they think that the decentralization system brought by Bitcoin will damage the national economic order so that they do everything possible to stop Bitcoin.

No, the thing is they are not worried.... they have loads of money to hire the best Crypto currency developers in the world to develop new centralized digital currencies for them.

Take for instance a former Bitcoin developer like Mike Hearn that was a senior software engineer at Google... he left Bitcoin and started to work for a enterprise blockchain builder ...R3. (Corda) ....a platform that was developed specifically to be used by Banks and other centralized financial services.  Roll Eyes

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The Banking industry now realized that the traditional Brick n Mortar Banking model are outdated and expensive, so they are closing a lot of their Brick n mortar branches and moving towards an online Banking alternative. They are not waiting for "digital" technologies to disrupt their business.... they are actively changing their whole operation.

Generation Z is a lot more digitally savvy than Millennials, so their target market are changing ...and they are changing to adapt to the changing customer needs.

They also realized that Brick n mortar operations are very expensive to operate and that those expenses has to be funded by high fees. The competition in the form of alternative digital payment offerings and Bitcoin's "Be your own Bank" principle....added to the threat of not having these high fees.

Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink

The monthly fees I receive on bank statements alone are one of the reasons I have never been friendly with banks, they charge you on anything even while you're sleeping with the ridiculous justification that they're helping me protect my money. Banks cannot and will never match the innovation of Bitcoin.

Banks in my country have never been friendly, they charge you for interbank transactions, whereas bitcoin is the same, only varies with the input and output and the type of wallets address and doesn't charge you for other fees, such as SMS alert, ATM use fees, email alert fees, they charge you ₦50 when you receive more than a particular threshold (≥ ₦ 10,000) and they lock your account if they notice you are making large transactions. Now, I want to ask you: If Bitcoin did what these banks do, would it get to where it is today? The government is pleased to see that banks are large organizations that leach on the masses and they are always happy to watch because they are the owners.

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Thats correct and no doubt that current market is more focused on the Generation Z. However, in case of bitcoin it was already futuristic innovation when it came into existence. The only obstruction it ever got is government and their way of functioning. If they some how accepts it and let us run the blockchain without any further restricted environment then bitcoin will go brrrr in every ATM after that! Its already advance tech based asset, it has the properties of future money and it's control is in the hands of sole individual (whoever hodls key). Definitely banks are changing the way they work. I dont even know when I last time reached out my bank physically. Even if I want to deposit the cash then I would go to nearby ATM and CDM's and deposit my cash without any human contact or cash slips etc. That's already advance leap for the banks. Soon this will alter it would be simplest instrument to play.
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The Banking industry now realized that the traditional Brick n Mortar Banking model are outdated and expensive, so they are closing a lot of their Brick n mortar branches and moving towards an online Banking alternative. They are not waiting for "digital" technologies to disrupt their business.... they are actively changing their whole operation.

Generation Z is a lot more digitally savvy than Millennials, so their target market are changing ...and they are changing to adapt to the changing customer needs.

They also realized that Brick n mortar operations are very expensive to operate and that those expenses has to be funded by high fees. The competition in the form of alternative digital payment offerings and Bitcoin's "Be your own Bank" principle....added to the threat of not having these high fees.

Are we going to wait for the Banking sector to disrupt Bitcoin.... or are we going to spearhead innovation to stay in front? You decide, if you want to stagnate.... or if you want to run in the front.  Wink

The monthly fees I receive on bank statements alone are one of the reasons I have never been friendly with banks, they charge you on anything even while you're sleeping with the ridiculous justification that they're helping me protect my money. Banks cannot and will never match the innovation of Bitcoin.

Banks in my country have never been friendly, they charge you for interbank transactions, whereas bitcoin is the same, only varies with the input and output and the type of wallets address and doesn't charge you for other fees, such as SMS alert, ATM use fees, email alert fees, they charge you ₦50 when you receive more than a particular threshold (≥ ₦ 10,000) and they lock your account if they notice you are making large transactions. Now, I want to ask you: If Bitcoin did what these banks do, would it get to where it is today? The government is pleased to see that banks are large organizations that leach on the masses and they are always happy to watch because they are the owners.

Banks can do this because at heart they are a monopoly, maybe the name of the banks change and the hands that at the end receive the money are different, but make no mistake they are a monopoly, so they can do whatever they want and until recently the only thing that their clients could do was to take it, but now that bitcoin exist and they have competition they are worried, which is why they are moving all their strings so governments around the world ban or at least heavy regulate this market.

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The increasing development of bitcoin makes many banks owners worry, even countries that have full control of the economy choose banned, they think that the decentralization system brought by Bitcoin will damage the national economic order so that they do everything possible to stop Bitcoin.
No, the thing is they are not worried.... they have loads of money to hire the best Crypto currency developers in the world to develop new centralized digital currencies for them.

Take for instance a former Bitcoin developer like Mike Hearn that was a senior software engineer at Google... he left Bitcoin and started to work for a enterprise blockchain builder ...R3. (Corda) ....a platform that was developed specifically to be used by Banks and other centralized financial services.  Roll Eyes
People will always assume the very best for bitcoin but the reality is that we shouldn't be really worried about banks, they will always find a way to get involved. If push comes to shove, they will build their own exchanges, all those big banks that love to get your money do things with it? They will find a way to be like a wallet and an exchange at the same time so that you would store your crypto with them as well. What will they do with it?

I do not know but I am sure that they will find a way and not left behind. People put too much emphasis on how decentralized bitcoin is, and forget that we are not decentralized as humans, so we could just give our money to them if they offer good rates and security, which will be risky.

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