Crypt0S0ul is spamming out the reputation sub...

[Little Mouse]

Well, that's a problem, in my opinion.  If you aren't confident enough to post an accusation from your main account, why post it from an alt?  I'm not suggesting you only post accusations from your main account, I value everyone's privacy and encourage people to use alts if they have a specific privacy need for one.

Crypt0S0ul has an alt account and that has been declared publicly- AnotherAlt
It’s none of a secret. He has publicly posted that long ago.
However, a lot of people are doing this, hiding behind alt when exposing someone's alt (when they are high ranked). Because they fear to get neg tagged or maybe they don't want to make enemies.

[darewaller]

Crypt0S0ul,

You have not explained your stand on this yet:

how non-alt accounts enrolling a same campaign can be unethical.

[_BlackStar]

However, a lot of people are doing this, hiding behind alt when exposing someone's alt (when they are high ranked). Because they fear to get neg tagged or maybe they don't want to make enemies.

I've also exposed some high ranking users instead of newbie. Some of them have been proven guilty and legally tag. There's no reason to be afraid and hide behind alt if what you're trying to convey is true, even if proven guilty users are against the tag then I'm sure they won't have the power to stand against you.

It takes courage and enough reason to tag and accuse someone, if we are wrong then this will damage the reputation of other users. In the real world the police won't jail you for no reason and they won't make arbitrary accusations without being backed up by solid evidence, so they have to understand that the system works for the wrong things.

[Crypt0S0ul]

Crypt0S0ul,

You have not explained your stand on this yet:

Would you mind explaining what connection you have with FanEagle and Captain Corporate? According to the blockchain, You have made some transactions with them. Based on that, I suspect something.

[darewaller]

Crypt0S0ul,

You have not explained your stand on this yet:

Would you mind explaining what connection you have with FanEagle and Captain Corporate? According to the blockchain, You have made some transactions with them. Based on that, I suspect something.

Don't you feel awkward on asking me where and why I spend my bitcoins? You are not my government legal/tax entity to ask such questions.

[LoyceV]

Would you mind explaining what connection you have with FanEagle and Captain Corporate? According to the blockchain, You have made some transactions with them. Based on that, I suspect something.

I suspect a lot of things, that doesn't mean anything without proof.
Did you know several instant exchangers and payment processors recycle Bitcoin addresses? I've made payments to addresses that were used before, which doesn't mean I'm connected to any of the other users.

Don't you feel awkward on asking me where and why I spend my bitcoins? You are not my government legal/tax entity to ask such questions.

Please tell me how much you earn per month, where you live, provide a copy of your drivers license, and explain in details how you spent your money between February 14 and March 14 last year Or just tell me to piss off because it's none of my business. Protect your privacy whenever you can!

[FatFork]

However, a lot of people are doing this, hiding behind alt when exposing someone's alt (when they are high ranked). Because they fear to get neg tagged or maybe they don't want to make enemies.

I've also exposed some high ranking users instead of newbie. Some of them have been proven guilty and legally tag. There's no reason to be afraid and hide behind alt if what you're trying to convey is true, even if proven guilty users are against the tag then I'm sure they won't have the power to stand against you.

It takes courage and enough reason to tag and accuse someone, if we are wrong then this will damage the reputation of other users. In the real world the police won't jail you for no reason and they won't make arbitrary accusations without being backed up by solid evidence, so they have to understand that the system works for the wrong things.

I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't expose scammers and cheaters at all, but there's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. It's easy to accuse, of course, just posting something without valid and credible evidence. I doubt that much harm would be done by such an accusation, if it's not impartial, fair and correct then people are going to see right through it. But if you present things correctly then people will more likely accept your argument for what it's worth instead of dismissing it as biased. Regardless of whether you use your main account or your alt account for it.

If you feel the need to expose someone, at least make sure that you have valid evidence and they're actually guilty of doing something wrong first!

Would you mind explaining what connection you have with FanEagle and Captain Corporate? According to the blockchain, You have made some transactions with them. Based on that, I suspect something.

Don't you feel awkward on asking me where and why I spend my bitcoins? You are not my government legal/tax entity to ask such questions.

But he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins. If you are not comfortable answering such questions, you don't have to. No one has the right to force you to do it, but then don't complain when someone else validates their suspicion by the blockchain evidence linking your accounts together and leaves a neutral tag on your account based on that.

[darewaller]

But he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins.

No, he asked.

don't complain when someone else validates their suspicion by the blockchain evidence linking your accounts together and leaves a neutral tag on your account based on that.

This is not making sense. If this community enforces KYC or similar like we need to furnish where we are spending bitcoins then I will bind to all the practices of this community and based on that you may suspect me on my blockchain footprints. But, nothing is breached as per current official/unofficial rules and practices of this community, what you have to suspect? So, simply this is an attempt to ruin someone's reputation (and wasting time and resources) then why should not I complain?

[lovesmayfamilis]

The same thing I also thought after I got a PM from a reputed member. No, I don't want to be an asshole. If you see my last thread, I just gathered some information and asked the community if it's sufficient or not. Because it was suspicious to me, and I wanted to report it. But, before reporting, I was trying to make sure I was right or not. That's why My thread title has a (?) Question mark.

Firstly, I will say that no, I will not ask you to shut up, because you have the right to vote, just like everyone else. But it seemed to me that you previously asked about opening one topic for your searches, or was it a proposal from the members of the forum? Wouldn't that be more convenient?

The second thing I want to say is that if you yourself are not sure, then you are suggesting that others complete the check that you did. To round everything up, you can ask about any account that "seems" suspicious. And it loses confidence in you. Be confident.

Also, there are rules according to which alternative accounts are considered violators of the ban. Xal0lex spoke about this in great detail.

It's simple. If two or more accounts have the same information (cryptocurrency addresses, email, twitter, telegram, etc.), the banned account is checked first for matching information. If the banned account has the above information mentioned later than the non-banned accounts, then ban evasion is not considered. This is done to avoid mistakes.

Let's look at such an example. One user decided to frame another to get banned. He create a new account, take the BTC address from your post and place it in any topic. After that, he post plagiarism in any topic and his account is banned. Or he can ban account using the "security question" option. Then his write a post in this topic from his main account that you are evading the ban. And the moderator bans you. And you go to Meta and start proving that this is not my account, etc.

That's to avoid such embarrassments and need such tactics.

I hope you get the gist.

I am more than sure that if you had submitted a report on ban evasion to the moderators without the opinion of the community, it might not have received a "bad" mark, but it remained unprocessed.
Just follow the advice above from Xal0lex.

[_BlackStar]

Crypt0S0ul, you have to be brave enough to take this case and solve the problem. You can't force someone to admit they're guilty of an off-forum transaction between one and two other accounts. I've had a similar case where 16 accounts were involved in send all their assets in one wallet ^{[off-forum transaction],} but after they proved my suspicions wrong, I happily removed the negative tag.

I think your suspicions will be valid for determining they are alt if you can prove that they are using the same wallet or the same social media account. But if it doesn't exist, then I'm sure the existing evidence won't be enough. Again, the lesson I learned from the case I worked on was that if you can't prove all of those accounts with valid evidence have violated the campaign rules, then don't try to damage their reputation by throwing your doubts into the community. I completely gave up on the same case.

[Scam Exposey]

I've had a similar case where 16 accounts were involved in send all their assets in one wallet ^{[off-forum transaction],} but after they proved my suspicions wrong, I happily removed the negative tag.

So you just bother people for nonsense accusation?

Do you think its right to bother people? While for sure everybody cares about there privacy?

For this forum exist for so long for sure many forum members do transaction for ones or even more, so this txid proof is totally nonsense at all.

And no one owes explanation to anyone since as I said privacy is more important, im sure that many people will do the same if they think the accusation is no basis.

Hopefully there's a penalty for people rising wrong accusation. Since they just do that for a show and for farming merits.

[FatFork]

But he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins.

No, he asked.

Again, he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins, and you don't have to refer me to his question, as it was already quoted in my previous reply.

don't complain when someone else validates their suspicion by the blockchain evidence linking your accounts together and leaves a neutral tag on your account based on that.

This is not making sense. If this community enforces KYC or similar like we need to furnish where we are spending bitcoins then I will bind to all the practices of this community and based on that you may suspect me on my blockchain footprints. But, nothing is breached as per current official/unofficial rules and practices of this community, what you have to suspect? So, simply this is an attempt to ruin someone's reputation (and wasting time and resources) then why should not I complain?

Don't push it. No one is enforcing any KYC here. All blockchain data is public information anyway, so that cat is already out of the bag. If you are really concerned about your privacy I suggest you stop posting your bitcoin addresses publicly. Besides, I think you are over-dramatizing the situation. A simple neutral tag on your account can't ruin your reputation here in any way.

[_BlackStar]

So you just bother people for nonsense accusation?

Do you think its right to bother people? While for sure everybody cares about there privacy?

Somehow I managed to get your attention after a long day sleeping on the couch, is that worth discussing or do you want to say something interesting to hear?

If you don't bother reading or finding something I said in the previous case, then continue your sleep. That's much wiser than you producing a lot of dopamine in your body. 

[darewaller]

Again, he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins, and you don't have to refer me to his question, as it was already quoted in my previous reply.

If you cannot interpret that post on that way, here you go:

They must be able to explain if they are doing business or other things. Let's hear from them.

I think you are over-dramatizing the situation. A simple neutral tag on your account can't ruin your reputation here in any way.

No wonders that third persons view this that way. But, for me, why should I bear something which is not true?

[lovesmayfamilis]

No wonders that third persons view this that way. But, for me, why should I bear something which is not true?

You can leave the same neutral feedback if you don't agree. This will clear up the fact that the neutral tag was wrong and provide a link to that thread.
To anyone who will be interested in your situation, you allow understanding of whether there was a mistake or not.
Only those who leave them can remove tags, if this cannot be done, you will simply have to ignore it.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you aren't confident enough to post an accusation from your main account, why post it from an alt?

It's reputational protection--the same reason whistleblowers in the real world prefer to be anonymous.  If you think about it and try to put yourself in the shoes of someone who might not have a very strong personality, one that can withstand criticism from lord knows how many members on a discussion forum, it's not that hard to understand why.

Personally I don't have a problem with people using alt accounts that way, and if I ever said otherwise I'm retracting those statements here and now (lol).  What happens when you've got a real problem with a member with whom a mutual friendship/trust/respect has developed?  There are some members who'd rather deal with it via an alt account rather than confronting that person directly.  Yeah it sounds weak, but there's nothing shady about it as long as the argument being made is sound.

[Crypt0S0ul]

I suspect a lot of things, that doesn't mean anything without proof.
Did you know several instant exchangers and payment processors recycle Bitcoin addresses? I've made payments to addresses that were used before, which doesn't mean I'm connected to any of the other users.

That's interesting. I didn't know that.
Do you believe my argument is invalid, and I am accusing them without any reason? Yeah, I don't have any right to ask someone for personal information. But, I saw they did some transactions with the three accounts, and one of them said he was doing marketing. I removed the feedback from one of their profile. Waiting for others to reply, none of them want to answer. Instead, they are here with counter-question and twisting my words. As you can see, I just wanted to know if he had some business deal or what connection he has with the two of them. But, He gets it negatively. They must be angry because I created the thread and left neutral feedback, which they consider spam.
Now, I can see almost everyone saying those blockchain transaction doesn't prove anything. I believe in the future; You will see a lot of ban evaders here on the platform. You will understand. But, you will end up watching them. If scammers and cheaters also do the same. You will have no choice other than to watch them. This is my last response about this case.

[darewaller]

This is my last response about this case.

Case is not yet solved. You bypassed my question:

You have not explained your stand on this yet:

how non-alt accounts enrolling a same campaign can be unethical.

You must explain how it is unethical.

[Apocollapse]

Waiting for others to reply, none of them want to answer. Instead, they are here with counter-question and twisting my words. As you can see, I just wanted to know if he had some business deal or what connection he has with the two of them. But, He gets it negatively. They must be angry because I created the thread and left neutral feedback, which they consider spam.

Blockchain transaction could be a prove if they're a part of farm accounts, but not all transaction send to one address are farms, that's why it's not a solid proof. Since it's not a solid proof, they're not obliged to explain it here, but there's nothing wrong if they want.

The reason why they're angry is you're drag them to get banned (evade ban) not spam case. I have no intention to give you counter question, but what if someone accuse you're ban evader? I believe you're also angry.

Now, I can see almost everyone saying those blockchain transaction doesn't prove anything. I believe in the future; You will see a lot of ban evaders here on the platform.

This forum record the whole IP address, if they're come from a same person, they will got banned by the administrator.

[lovesmayfamilis]

This forum record the whole IP address, if they're come from a same person, they will got banned by the administrator.

If they are adept at separating their profiles from matches, assuming all accounts belong to the same person, one might also think that their IPs might be different. 
The style of the language can also be deliberately forged by the way it is written, with commas, paragraphs, capital letters, and so on. 
They can offer us the version that they are all friends, relatives, and so on. 
And until there is clear evidence, it is difficult to directly accuse people of fraud. 
This is quite a difficult job. If one person owns these accounts, one could applaud.