tbterryboy
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September 06, 2022, 03:29:42 PM |
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The participants' money could be on hold there for a long time if there are fewer participants
More precisely getting a hold to the next pot until the minimum pot is reaching (200$). I just check their lottery site and I see that many games for other currencies have not started because maybe they had less players and the minimum amount is not reached yet. This is not good for the people who are bored of waiting like me. I know lottery games are already slow but with a rule like this, it could become more slower and what if unfortunate events happened later on like the site turned offline for a long time until we found out that they abandoned the site already and took all the players coins? I think it would be better if they revised some of their rules so that players can gain more confidence upon trying this site new out.
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Jawhead999
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September 06, 2022, 04:01:14 PM |
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Welcome to the forum,
It seems the site is quite new and there's no traffic since there's only 17 players who take a part on Ravencoin lotteries. Honestly the site isn't attracting to play since many casinos already have great UI/UX. I know this site also have old design created by SMF software, but it's a forum which is doesn't really need great UI/UX.
I see it's hard for you to attract many players, lotteries aren't an exciting games anymore since it's need to wait a long time until the winner can be drawed.
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ethereumhunter
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September 06, 2022, 04:27:19 PM |
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Welcome to the Bitcointalk forum. Hope you like this forum and successfully promote your website.
The interface of the website looks like a classic website. When I look at the last time people played the lottery, it was yesterday and in August. It proves that you need to market your website not only on the Bitcointalk forum but also on other websites such as social media or by registering your site to a website directory to get additional viewers. There's still a lot you need to do to make your website able to get a lot of visitors.
I hope @OP can come back here and discuss with us and not just be active on Discord because @OP already gave his website in this forum.
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September 06, 2022, 10:58:59 PM |
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I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum.
Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design.
The design is indeed like the UI of forum but if you will notice immediately that it’s a lottery website once you read the content since the display is pure lottery betting option in different currency. I think the design is catchy for me because it is well organized and easy to browse the options and results. The forum style is not a usual format but it’s not bad idea since it is more organized to browse that way. Yes, it's not a bad idea but that's just the impression that I've taken after seeing the format and UI design. But that's okay, uniqueness of a website is also catchy to its visitors and I guess if OP notices that there's a need to change, he will change it eventually. Well, wishing that with its way of marketing and design it can attract more players to it. The number of the cryptocurrencies that they have is also a lot which I think could affect on its attraction to new users on board.
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September 06, 2022, 11:30:38 PM |
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I think of your website is like a forum and not an actual lottery website. As first glance, it's confusing for me honestly if it's a lottery and really thought of it as a forum.
Maybe you can redesign it and make it simpler. Or is it just me that really thinks that you're having that much design for a lottery. Although I find it cool but just IMHO not suiting the design.
The design is indeed like the UI of forum but if you will notice immediately that it’s a lottery website once you read the content since the display is pure lottery betting option in different currency. I think the design is catchy for me because it is well organized and easy to browse the options and results. The forum style is not a usual format but it’s not bad idea since it is more organized to browse that way. Yes, it's not a bad idea but that's just the impression that I've taken after seeing the format and UI design. But that's okay, uniqueness of a website is also catchy to its visitors and I guess if OP notices that there's a need to change, he will change it eventually. Well, wishing that with its way of marketing and design it can attract more players to it. The number of the cryptocurrencies that they have is also a lot which I think could affect on its attraction to new users on board. Whenever you do make out some ANN thread into this forum and able to hear out and see some advises and recommendation then it would really be better if you do really consider out on applying it because we do know on whats the best for the site if there are some problems or not appealing to look at.People here on this forum are highly reactive when it comes to design and template of a new site. Next, would be fairness because if people do find out that the site isnt fair despite of having fancy design and similar things but ending up on not fair then it would really still get on the same impression which would be negative.
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September 07, 2022, 02:10:14 AM |
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Im not here to welcome this as OP isn't showing interest in advertising nor talking to the community about the project and this is gambling and much risky for everyone .
try the site with caution as OP seems to shows not coming back here and will only communicate thru discord or other social media outlet .
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aioc
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September 07, 2022, 03:47:02 AM |
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I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery.
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Don Pedro Dinero
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September 07, 2022, 03:51:34 AM |
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I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery.
Well, it doesn't look very good. If he really wants to promote this he should be more active after creating the OP. It wouldn't be the first case we've seen where a thread like this is created and then the OP doesn't come back. Besides there are more effective ways to advertise his site, like paying for advertising on the forum or creating a signature campaign, but that's a serious investment and it seems to me that the OP is going for cheap.
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GigaBit
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September 07, 2022, 05:16:10 AM |
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Greetings, I am pleased to announce the launch of Lottocryptos.com, a multi crypto lotteries website. Its use is anonymous and it supports multiple cryptos and languages. And it will be further expanded in the future. How does it work: - To participate, players just have to select the crypto they want and send their coins. - Once the transaction is verified, the player will be assigned a range of numbers for their participation based on the verification order. - The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number. - The prize will consist of everything purchased by the players minus a commission as service and transaction costs (between 1% and 4% maximum, although it could be reduced in the future). - The prize will be sent to the winning wallet address. To know more details I invite you all to visit the website or ask the questions you want in the Discord Channel. Thanks. Since you are promoting a new lottery site, you need to provide a suitable answer as to why a user would play the lottery on your site? What are the advantages than others? Because many sites have come and gone in the past. Also your site is a new one. If you are looking to do something long-term and authentic, then you are welcome. Also, there are things you need to focus on to increase awareness of a legitimate site or increase trust in it. After doing these things properly you can expect your business to be successful.
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September 07, 2022, 06:25:40 AM |
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1.Make a more professional announcement thread if you really want to attract lottery players. 2.Your website looks as if it was made back in 1999. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but web design has evolved in the past 22 years and there are gambling websites, that are way more beautiful and functional. Old web design from the 90s has it's own charm, but your particular website design seems boring and lacking personality and attitude. It looks a little bit amateurish. 3.How many players are currently active in your lotteries, OP? I can't seem to find any info about this. 4.Having a big variety of altcoins doesn't mean anything, if you don't have a good looking and functional website. Good luck with this project.
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September 07, 2022, 07:22:22 AM |
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I expect OP to be very active here because he is promoting a casino with a small niche Crypto lottery is not yet that very popular, but since posting the announcement he is not posting anymore that's a 48 hours gap already, not acceptable for the community there are many legit questions that need to be addressed and lack of OP's activity will shun away new players that are interested in his lottery.
I dont really like this fact where a new site come to this forum, created an ANN thread but not actively communicating with the forum members. Honestly, I dont like this type of game. Some people call it as lottery but I would prefer to call it as raffle game. This new site is not really bad when I visited for the first time, at least I see there is an effort to create it. However, seems that the owner do not know the fact that this kind of game need extra effort to promote in order to gain interest. I've to say it is a start but also the end of the new site.
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FatFork
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September 07, 2022, 09:12:53 AM |
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I'm not trying to be a jerk here, just being honest and direct. The design of this site really looks bad and poorly laid out, and there are a lot of weird features that are seemingly just there for no reason. I can't imagine getting any business from it. Of course, anyone can't expect the new site will be really good, especially if it's done by a novice. But if you don't know how to design and code, at least get someone who does, or hire someone to do it for you.
I truly hope that OP will be more active on these forums in the future and also try to listen to the recommendations and opinions of the community because this is the best way to learn and improve. This is a great place to start, but if you want your site to be successful, you need to listen to what people are saying and try to improve it. Only then this site can has better future and survive in the world of casino online game.
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September 07, 2022, 10:34:18 AM |
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Thank you for all the questions and issues you raise. Sorry for the delay, the truth is that I did not expect it.
All these questions will be added to a FAQ section of the website.
I have added to the main post the answer to all the questions. If you have more doubts I would like to solve them.
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FatFork
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September 07, 2022, 11:23:19 AM |
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How is the winning number generated?The winning number is chosen using the PHP function random_int, according to the PHP manual the random_int function "Generates cryptographic random integers that are suitable for use where unbiased results are critical, such as when shuffling a deck of cards for a poker game.". I was thinking of using other methods like entering a manual random seed, but apart from complicating the project, it would not increase the randomness and could be considered that the result has been manipulated. In the end, it was decided that the winner is chosen by the computer alone without human intervention. We have no objection to your way of generating randomness, but to the fact that your system is not provably fair. What's stopping you from drawing the numbers until you get a result that works in your favor? All of this can be done in the background in a fraction of a second and players have no way to verify that the draw was fair and unbiased. Learn what provably fair systems mean. Why the website has this design? The website has been designed from scratch and there is no desire to use third party libraries.
Regarding the look and feel, it's just a personal preference, I like the Windows look and feel of the late 90's and early 20th century, for it's ease of reading. I also like the gray and blue tones in the theme to give it a business and serious look.
Yes, it's a personal preference, but the primary purpose of design is to sell a product. Does your design sell a product? Besides, you don't have to compromise on speed to have a beautifully designed site. Websites can be both lightweight and attractive at the same time.
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Lottocryptos (OP)
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September 07, 2022, 11:36:04 AM |
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We have no objection to your way of generating randomness, but to the fact that your system is not provably fair. What's stopping you from drawing the numbers until you get a result that works in your favor? All of this can be done in the background in a fraction of a second and players have no way to verify that the draw was fair and unbiased. Learn what provably fair systems mean.
It is a problem that all casinos and online games have, whether they are cryptocurrencies or not. And there is no easy solution, unless the game and its code are audited 24 hours a day. At least on my site, since the transactions are traceable, it can be seen that some winners could be players with old wallets and long transaction history.
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September 07, 2022, 11:42:51 AM |
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Is this stat updated daily? Coins: 37 Lotteries: 247 Highest Prize: 7.69 $ Total Prizes: 45.09 $
Last time I checked that's the same stat showing, not really that good if you cannot invite people to play here, I'm not discouraging you but this niche is very small you will have to maximize your marketing, be active here and try to be as transparent as possible, we can count the number of Crypt lottery based site here and they are not really that popular it competitive compare to casinos, but still keep up until you build your community.
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September 07, 2022, 12:24:17 PM |
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The draws will be held on Sundays at 23:30 UTC, where a random number will be selected. The winner being the one whose range of participation numbers is included in the winning number.
How do we know that numbers are selected truly random and how can this be verified? It's not hard for someone to create a lottery website and show any numbers they want saying they are random. I am tracking bitcoin lottery websites so I will consider adding your website in future: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278167.0Yup until and unless there is transparency in the drawing of numbers, no one will dare to participate with their money. Moreover what if there aren’t enough participants , participating in the lottery? Then you will send the money back to the sender’s address? Nevertheless in this case the sender will unnecessarily bear tx fees on their Bitcoins. Also there aren’t many people here interested to play on their luck and that too with lucky draw. So op it would be better for you if you can introduce something more solid game in your site.
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September 07, 2022, 12:28:36 PM |
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It is a problem that all casinos and online games have, whether they are cryptocurrencies or not.
And there is no easy solution, unless the game and its code are audited 24 hours a day.
That is very far from the truth and only shows your ignorance of the matter. As I mentioned before, I suggest you learn what provably fair method means and how it works. It is possible, for example, to publish a random number in an encrypted form before the game and then reveal the key afterwards, or to use publicly available but unpredictable information (for example, the hash of the next block). This would ensure fairness in your game. What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work?A guide to how Provably Fair works.At least on my site, since the transactions are traceable, it can be seen that some winners could be players with old wallets and long transaction history.
That's irrelevant. There is no way to identify the real owners of these wallets, and whether or not they are actually legitimate players.
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Is this stat updated daily? Coins: 37 Lotteries: 247 Highest Prize: 7.69 $ Total Prizes: 45.09 $
Last time I checked that's the same stat showing, not really that good if you cannot invite people to play here, I'm not discouraging you but this niche is very small you will have to maximize your marketing, be active here and try to be as transparent as possible, we can count the number of Crypt lottery based site here and they are not really that popular it competitive compare to casinos, but still keep up until you build your community.
No, they are historical data, updated weekly. The prizes are from lotteries that were made during development (without public access).
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One message seems to apply only to single player games, such as dice games or bet on a number. I don't know how I could apply it in a multiplayer game. If I use the hash of the first player, the other players will have an advantage. And the hash of the last player may not be known until draw time. Furthermore, the sha256 encryption used in the hashing is already considered insecure and not recommended. In the other it shows the message: "Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution." In any case, I think it would be possible to create a demo page in my website. In it, a new player could simulate participating in the lottery, with the amount he wants and with the players already participating. And from there calculate the winning number, the odds of winning and if he had won at that time.
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