Jake Paul VS Anderson Silva October 29th

[OgNasty]

To be honest, I find this fight unfair for Silva because he deserves a better opponent which is a real boxer. We all know that he's a promising boxer so it will be better for him to face someone who has the same stamina and same sports description. For me, Jake Paul's sports are quite different from Silva's so he should be facing an opponent that would fit his stamina as well.

I would agree that this is an unfair fight for Silva.  He's clearly too old to be boxing and he was never a great boxer to begin with.  Watching his boxing matches, he almost never defends himself and relies on throwing haymakers at unskilled opponents.  This should be an easy win for Jake despite what people will try to bill this as.  MMA, Silver wins easily.  Boxing, I think he's a huge underdog.  His skills are less polished than Jake's, he's old as hell, and he hasn't been training like Jake has.  He's throwing his reputation to the wolves for a paycheck.  I hope it's a big one for him.

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To be honest, I find this fight unfair for Silva because he deserves a better opponent which is a real boxer. We all know that he's a promising boxer so it will be better for him to face someone who has the same stamina and same sports description. For me, Jake Paul's sports are quite different from Silva's so he should be facing an opponent that would fit his stamina as well.

I would agree that this is an unfair fight for Silva.  He's clearly too old to be boxing and he was never a great boxer to begin with.  Watching his boxing matches, he almost never defends himself and relies on throwing haymakers at unskilled opponents.  This should be an easy win for Jake despite what people will try to bill this as.  MMA, Silver wins easily.  Boxing, I think he's a huge underdog.  His skills are less polished than Jake's, he's old as hell, and he hasn't been training like Jake has.  He's throwing his reputation to the wolves for a paycheck.  I hope it's a big one for him.

While Silva can throw hands, this doesn't mean that he's a good boxer. I agree that the dude almost always forgets defending himself and leaves his face open for a punch. He has some hits on him but without a decent defense I wouldn't think he can outlast Jake which is a lot younger and is training consistently. Silva is an MMA beast, but on boxing he's just average at best. He's in this for the money obviously, as all the other fighters who squared with Jake before.

[serjent05]

People this whole thing where people think a 47 year old Silva who boxed 3 times is a good fight to watch is insane.  Mma and boxing are 2 wildly different sports even though sometimes they look the same.  For a natural boxing fan watching this crap it's cringy when ypu watch these guys try to box "professionally".  It's fun for a round like a car accident ypu can't look away but to think it's a solid match to watch is....  

I watched Silva just a year ago, and he looked good in the boxing ring, and went up against someone with 50 odd fights, and only a few losses. That's not something to turn your nose up too. That wasn't expected, like I said he was the underdog in that fight. So, despite being 46 at the time I believe, he still did a job, and looked good doing it. Jake obviously is younger, but it's unlikely that Silva has aged so much in a year that he doesn't at least put on a decent performance giving the chance.

Obviously, there's a chance Jake knocks him out early since Silva has been known to leave openings, but that's mainly due to his fighting style. I believe he was knocked out way back when he first entered the boxing scene, if my memory serves me correctly that is.

Same here, at first I thought Silva won't have any chance but knowing and watching his fight against Chavez Jr.  My point of view changes. As I remember Chavez Jr. isn't a push-over boxer with 61 professional fights and a former WBC middleweight champion from 2011 to 2012[1].  Silva did a good performance there winning a split decision.

But of course, the fight can go either way, Jake Paul being young and equipped with KO punches, there is a possibility that Silva might not see the punches coming and got KO'ed by Paul.  Or vice versa.  If the fight ended in the judge's decision, if Silva do the same performance he did against Chavez Jr. then Silva might win the judge's decision.

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[FinneysTrueVision]

Same here, at first I thought Silva won't have any chance but knowing and watching his fight against Chavez Jr.  My point of view changes. As I remember Chavez Jr. isn't a push-over boxer with 61 professional fights and a former WBC middleweight champion from 2011 to 2012[1].  Silva did a good performance there winning a split decision.

But of course, the fight can go either way, Jake Paul being young and equipped with KO punches, there is a possibility that Silva might not see the punches coming and got KO'ed by Paul.  Or vice versa.  If the fight ended in the judge's decision, if Silva do the same performance he did against Chavez Jr. then Silva might win the judge's decision.

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Silva fought a very diminished version of Chavez Jr. who didn't even bother to make weight for that fight. It wasn't even a very convincing win, it was just a matter of Chavez Jr. making very little effort to get a victory. It does nothing to show us what level Anderson Silva is at. Since then his only other fight was against a washed up Tito Ortiz making his boxing debut and then he was inactive for the past 12 months. At 47 years old, very minimal boxing experience, and a long layoff I don't see any way in which Silva can win.

[Natalim]

This is boxing, not a fight where Silva won a championship. Anderson Silva is already 47 years old, I don't think he can keep up with  Jake Paul who are still young and active as a boxer, if this is UFC, then I might bet on Anderson, but hey, it's boxing.

Maybe Jake Paul is trying to keep his undefeated record and will never fight a boxer that could potentially give his record a 1L.

[Welsh]

Silva fought a very diminished version of Chavez Jr. who didn't even bother to make weight for that fight. It wasn't even a very convincing win, it was just a matter of Chavez Jr. making very little effort to get a victory. It does nothing to show us what level Anderson Silva is at. Since then his only other fight was against a washed up Tito Ortiz making his boxing debut and then he was inactive for the past 12 months. At 47 years old, very minimal boxing experience, and a long layoff I don't see any way in which Silva can win.

Right, but isn't Anderson himself washed up? That's what people are claiming. So, a washed up fighter beat another washed up fighter, right? Jake Paul isn't champion material...at least not yet. I hope people realise that Jake is at the beginning of his career, and he isn't a seasoned fighter. That means he needs to build up to better opponents. Silva being one which is a legendary figure in MMA, and has a decent boxing record, especially recently is a decent opponent. Jake also tried to fight Tommy Fury, and people were making excuses that he was washed up. It's not like you'd put Jake against a top five, he hasn't even earned that right.

I think it's a good fight, and it's definitely not a sure win for either of them, which is what makes the fight interesting.

[Oasisman]

This is boxing, not a fight where Silva won a championship. Anderson Silva is already 47 years old, I don't think he can keep up with  Jake Paul who are still young and active as a boxer, if this is UFC, then I might bet on Anderson, but hey, it's boxing.

Maybe Jake Paul is trying to keep his undefeated record and will never fight a boxer that could potentially give his record a 1L.

Jake Paul isn't an elite fighter though. He is just young and active. He is not the kind of boxer who is well experienced and have fought elite fighters. Even if Anderson is washed up, his advantage would be the experience. Yeah boxing and UFC is a different combat sport. You'll probably exhaust yourself faster in boxing than in UFC. Keeping up against Jake Paul won't gonna be a huge problem for Anderson. He can do that, but it could potentially make the fight boring.
However, I don't see any huge advantages in either of them.

[Welsh]

Yeah boxing and UFC is a different combat sport. You'll probably exhaust yourself faster in boxing than in UFC. Keeping up against Jake Paul won't gonna be a huge problem for Anderson. He can do that, but it could potentially make the fight boring.
However, I don't see any huge advantages in either of them.

I find MMA faster paced, although boxing is a lot of the time a little more about sussing out your opponent, and finding gaps. I tend to find a lot of boxing fights are fighting for points where as in UFC damage, and finishing your opponents are actively encouraged by the organisation.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but they're just different. I actually struggle to watch boxing these days since watching UFC, and I used to be quite partial to some boxing. I only watch the heavyweights, and admittedly Jake Paul fights. Also some Loma fights.

I don't get why everyone is bashing on a young fighter who has a couple of fights, going against other beginner boxers. It's like they expect Jake Paul to go against Cancelo or someone, but then they'd be saying Cancelo took a easy fight. I don't think there's any winning in this, people just won't be happy regardless.

I say good on Jake. He's made a career in multiple industries, and quite frankly has the boxing purists actually wanting to watch his fights now, whether that's to route against him or not. Mayweather built a career on people wanting to see him get knocked out.

[Periodik]

This is boxing, not a fight where Silva won a championship. Anderson Silva is already 47 years old, I don't think he can keep up with  Jake Paul who are still young and active as a boxer, if this is UFC, then I might bet on Anderson, but hey, it's boxing.

Maybe Jake Paul is trying to keep his undefeated record and will never fight a boxer that could potentially give his record a 1L.

Although Anderson knows how to box, he is not really a boxer. I saw him box and he is really awkward. It's crystal clear in his movements that boxing is not his domain. And with his age, I won't be surprised if Jake Paul would even knock him down or out.

And what's up with these retirees entering another sport as professionals? They debut in their old age.

Jake is protecting his record while fighting against big old names to gain a big audience. Jake knows his business well.

[Baofeng]

This is boxing, not a fight where Silva won a championship. Anderson Silva is already 47 years old, I don't think he can keep up with  Jake Paul who are still young and active as a boxer, if this is UFC, then I might bet on Anderson, but hey, it's boxing.

Maybe Jake Paul is trying to keep his undefeated record and will never fight a boxer that could potentially give his record a 1L.

Jake Paul isn't an elite fighter though. He is just young and active. He is not the kind of boxer who is well experienced and have fought elite fighters. Even if Anderson is washed up, his advantage would be the experience. Yeah boxing and UFC is a different combat sport. You'll probably exhaust yourself faster in boxing than in UFC. Keeping up against Jake Paul won't gonna be a huge problem for Anderson. He can do that, but it could potentially make the fight boring.
However, I don't see any huge advantages in either of them.

I guess this is why fight fans is going to buy the tickets, Paul isn't elite but Anderson has experience but no longer in his prime. And probably fans are going to watch because they think that Anderson has the chance to knock out the arrogant Jake Paul. As for boxing vs UFC, I'm a fan of both. So this is going to be a different experience for Anderson although he has beaten JCC already inside the ring. But Jake Paul wanted to continue his hype so let's see and hopefully this fight is not going to be stage or rig.

[Welsh]

And what's up with these retirees entering another sport as professionals? They debut in their old age.

Jake is protecting his record while fighting against big old names to gain a big audience. Jake knows his business well.

Money. It's quite well known that the UFC doesn't pay very well. Other promotions do pay more I believe, but they just aren't as well recognised as the UFC. So, fighters tend to make their money in boxing before retirement. Plus, the sports are somewhat linked being combat sports, so it's a gentle transition to boxing most of the time. Especially, if they were primarily a striker in MMA.

Like don't get me wrong, I think Jake wins here especially since I know Anderson's style he definitely leaves openings which I think Jake is quick enough, and agile enough to take advantage of. However, I don't think it's an easy fight like everyone is saying it is.

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And what's up with these retirees entering another sport as professionals? They debut in their old age.

Jake is protecting his record while fighting against big old names to gain a big audience. Jake knows his business well.

Money. It's quite well known that the UFC doesn't pay very well. Other promotions do pay more I believe, but they just aren't as well recognised as the UFC. So, fighters tend to make their money in boxing before retirement. Plus, the sports are somewhat linked being combat sports, so it's a gentle transition to boxing most of the time. Especially, if they were primarily a striker in MMA.

Like don't get me wrong, I think Jake wins here especially since I know Anderson's style he definitely leaves openings which I think Jake is quick enough, and agile enough to take advantage of. However, I don't think it's an easy fight like everyone is saying it is.

Indeed. That's an open issue with the UFC. They don't share much with their fighters, even the biggest stars that they have. I don't understand why they have to be stingy with the very fighters that provide them revenue.

It's not a smooth transition most of the time, though. They're already old and it's really hard to make a transition when you've been trained and were fighting differently all your life. They're both combat sports but they're different disciplines. MMA strikers aren't boxers.

Jake will probably win here. Anderson was way quicker than Jake but that was a long time ago, not now.

[Welsh]

It's not a smooth transition most of the time, though. They're already old and it's really hard to make a transition when you've been trained and were fighting differently all your life. They're both combat sports but they're different disciplines. MMA strikers aren't boxers.

Smooth transition as in they've already got the skills, they just need to change their style a little bit. However, most MMA guys go onto fighting bigger names, and of course a elite boxer is going to have an advantage in the discipline they've trained for all their life, compared to someone who has learned multiple disciplines at once. I'd say if they picked smaller names, they'd have a lot more success.

Some MMA strikers are boxers. They come from boxing to MMA. That's quite clear in certain fighters. It's much easier to go from MMA to boxing, than it's the other way around. I think that's something most of us can agree on.

Like I said, Jake probably does it, and he might even knock Silva out since Silva isn't the best defensively. However, I think the key here is Jake hasn't really been threatened in his previous fights since they never really let go. Silva is going to let go, and put volume out there. So, we'll actually see Jake defending for once.

[Periodik]

It's not a smooth transition most of the time, though. They're already old and it's really hard to make a transition when you've been trained and were fighting differently all your life. They're both combat sports but they're different disciplines. MMA strikers aren't boxers.

Smooth transition as in they've already got the skills, they just need to change their style a little bit. However, most MMA guys go onto fighting bigger names, and of course a elite boxer is going to have an advantage in the discipline they've trained for all their life, compared to someone who has learned multiple disciplines at once. I'd say if they picked smaller names, they'd have a lot more success.

Some MMA strikers are boxers. They come from boxing to MMA. That's quite clear in certain fighters. It's much easier to go from MMA to boxing, than it's the other way around. I think that's something most of us can agree on.

Like I said, Jake probably does it, and he might even knock Silva out since Silva isn't the best defensively. However, I think the key here is Jake hasn't really been threatened in his previous fights since they never really let go. Silva is going to let go, and put volume out there. So, we'll actually see Jake defending for once.

I agree. If these MMA fighters are moving into boxing, they should start from the bottom of the ladder.

What I mean is that if you're a striker in the MMA, it doesn't automatically make you a boxer. Although I agree that it's easier to shift from MMA to boxing than the other way around, it doesn't mean it's actually easy. Many MMA fighters are already catching their breath upon reaching the third and final 3-minute round. You can't survive boxing with that fighting condition.

Silva's volume may now be soft and in slow-mo. So Jake could still be confident that Silva is not anymore the dangerous spider the moment they'll face each other inside the ring.

[Welsh]

Many MMA fighters are already catching their breath upon reaching the third and final 3-minute round. You can't survive boxing with that fighting condition.

Yeah, many of them will underestimate the amount of rounds in boxing, plus the pacing is all different. I don't think Silva will find that a problem though, he's already been the distance with a decent fighter. So, he should know how to pace himself. In fact, you could argue that Jake hasn't had the experience on a fight night going the distance yet, and how's that going to effect him?

Although, Jake will probably be fine, I'm sure he's done the rounds in sparring. I'd probably put money on Jake to stop Silva since the value is there, and I know that Silva lives on the edge in terms of defense. I won't be since I'm away, but for anyone putting a bet on it might be worth considering.

[Periodik]

Many MMA fighters are already catching their breath upon reaching the third and final 3-minute round. You can't survive boxing with that fighting condition.

Yeah, many of them will underestimate the amount of rounds in boxing, plus the pacing is all different. I don't think Silva will find that a problem though, he's already been the distance with a decent fighter. So, he should know how to pace himself. In fact, you could argue that Jake hasn't had the experience on a fight night going the distance yet, and how's that going to effect him?

Although, Jake will probably be fine, I'm sure he's done the rounds in sparring. I'd probably put money on Jake to stop Silva since the value is there, and I know that Silva lives on the edge in terms of defense. I won't be since I'm away, but for anyone putting a bet on it might be worth considering.

I'm honestly surprised why Anderson is still the favorite in this fight when he's the much older man. Jake Paul is at the top of his physical condition and has been very busy with boxing lately with a total of 3 fights last year alone. Betting on Jake Paul is indeed worth my money if only I don't want Silva to win. But because I want Silva to win this match, I'd rather just watch this fight. I wouldn't place a bet on him either. He's probably gonna lose.

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I'd prefer Tommy Fury, but honestly I feel like Tommy's trying to get free publicity rather than actually wanting that fight. I see him as a reality star more than a boxer, and I think the Fury family somewhat sees it the same way.

Anyway, Anderson Silva is a real test despite not being a proper boxer. He's got the skills, and evasiveness, maybe not so much these days, but it's a risky fight for Jake. You'd expect Jake to win, and I imagine the odds would reflect that, but if he doesn't then he's been up staged by a ageing MMA veteran.

I'd be absolutely shocked if he manages to make easy work of him on the other hand, so I don't think this is a easy fight. Unlike his previous fights, Anderson isn't gun shy, and knows how to box. So, we'll see some activity. I said in another thread though, I bloody hope he doesn't knock Silva out, as I'd be devastated.

I dunno. I think he's kinda desperate for this fight given his social media posts. He couldn't do anything about the broken rib the first time and now it's the visa issues which prevent him from fighting in the states, though given that Tommy didn't even bother going to the embassy to try sort it had made me question his motives. I still think this is the best fight for both of them. Tommy will be getting next to nothing for his fights on Tyson's or whoever's undercard whereas he's going to get millions for fighting Jake and it's going to give him huge publicity in the states where he's a essentially a nobody right now or at the most just Tyson's little brother but I'm sure most people still don't know who he is.

It will be fun to see Jake fall down to the ground and stop looking down at the UFC fighters but he actually has the chance to also KO Silva. Silva is not very mobile because of his leg injury, seems very delicate for him to do some side steps that might crack again. When you get old, your bones get brittle and brittle. Not much difference in their reach so Jake could also throw jabs from a distance. It's all just timing.

Problem is that mma doesn't exactly crossover to boxing.  Not only is Silva too old boxing wasn't his sport to begin with.  Not sure what people are exactly expecting out of him.  Should be another great boxing match. 

I find this to be a lazy criticism. Boxing is still a huge part of MMA if not the most utilised combat style in the sport. It's not like UFC fighters can't throw a punch or something. Sure, Ben Askren was terrible but he was widely known for his grappling and he used to just take it to the ground straight away. He was so predictable that Masvidal knew exactly what he was going to do and kneed him in the head right out the gates. At least Jake is taking it up a notch with every fight as he should, but let's see how far he can take this. I'm sure he's working up to something big if he keeps this momentum going.

Problem is that mma doesn't exactly crossover to boxing.  Not only is Silva too old boxing wasn't his sport to begin with.  Not sure what people are exactly expecting out of him.  Should be another great boxing match. 

Anderson has already had like 3/4 bouts, and beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, which I do recall he was a heavy underdog in the fight. Also beat Tito Ortiz, and both of these were like a year or so ago. So, arguably he has the same experience that Jake Paul has, but in additional also has MMA experience. So, this isn't a boxer vs a MMA guy, at least not completely. Silva made his bread, and butter in MMA, but he's had a decent boxing career, albeit only a short one.

Jake Paul technically is fighting someone who has fought in boxing before, whereas before they hadn't.

People this whole thing where people think a 47 year old Silva who boxed 3 times is a good fight to watch is insane.  Mma and boxing are 2 wildly different sports even though sometimes they look the same.  For a natural boxing fan watching this crap it's cringy when ypu watch these guys try to box "professionally".  It's fun for a round like a car accident ypu can't look away but to think it's a solid match to watch is.... 

Have you even watched Jake's fights? If you didn't know who he was and caught the fight on TV you wouldn't question whether he was a boxer or not and this is something echoed by a lot of respected fighters and commentators like Joe Rogan etc. He got one of the best KOs of the year against Woodley and Woodley has won a fair few UFC fights with KOs and is no pushover. The only criticism I would have of this fight is Silva's age but he's still a beast and is beating people in boxing so it seems a fairly fair fight given Jake's experience level right now.

[serjent05]

Silva's volume may now be soft and in slow-mo. So Jake could still be confident that Silva is not anymore the dangerous spider the moment they'll face each other inside the ring.

Aside from that, the gloves used in MMA are lighter and less padded so the strike or punches in MMA is far more devastating than punches in boxing having the gloves are heavier and more padded than in MMA which nullifies some power from the striking force.  So definitely, Jake will be receiving a less powerful strike due to the gloves difference + aging factor.  That is also another reason why most MMA (if not familiar with boxing gloves) got tired easily in boxing due to the weight of the gloves.

[OgNasty]

I was surprised to hear Dana White say that this is a good fight.  He seems to think that Anderson Silva can outbox Jake Paul even with the age difference.  I'm not so sure, but the fact that Dana thinks it's going to be a good fight gives me a little hope that Anderson Silva can overcome the obvious hurdles in his path to win this fight.  As much as I want to see a KO, I really hope that Jake doesn't KO Silva.  It's such a bad look to fight with that age difference...  I really hope Silva's old man strength comes through.

[Finestream]

This could be fun fight to watch and I am expecting for Jake Paul to release new provocations towards Dana White and UFC payment system.
Age difference is big and last fights I watched Silva you could really see him getting slower and weaker, and boxing is going to be even harder for him.
It's surprising that some bookies made Silva a slight favorite in this fight, but lets see exact rules and odds from more bookies.

Silva might be close to his retirement as his age could be a big factor if ever he loses in this fight. While Paul is still very active and confident, but I just hope he will fight like a pro boxer that shows high experience and not like a pretender as he was viewed by many people who have seen his previous fights. This is likely to be the scenario when the two fighters are not really boxers in profession as they’re obviously famous in different fields before they enter the world of boxing.