Market for turning real life objects to 3D digital assets (NFTs/Metaverse)

[Cee2]

What are your thoughts on this topic?

Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
  
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ


Here is the link to the original ANN thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382009.0

[o48o]

What are your thoughts on this topic?

Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
  
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ

Virtual objects? But why? What's the deal of scanning some low poly file versions from rocks "to the blockchain"? How is this tech revolutionary now when scanning objects to 3d has existed for a long time now? I can see no real life importance in this what so ever.

Edit: googled about it so you might want to link an announcement of your project to the topic, not 40 sec video of a low poly blob rotating. And after reading your announcement it sounds like from the very first quoted sentence that only idea is how to grab money from nfts.

"I was trying to find a way to create recoverable passwords out of real objects being used as a seed data. But when managed, I realized that I found something more powerful - the method of tokenization of real and virtual things, which opens the the door for cryptocurrency market to trillions deals all over the world." PaulS

...and that's an opposite of revolutional when everyone is trying to grab money with it. It's a superimposed solution for a problem that didn't exist in the first place so you might want to be less pompous when marketing it.

[ryzaadit]

NFTs trend is over bro.

You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).

Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.

[cryptoaddictchie]

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.

I think the idea is great and cool however the term revolutionary cant be attained that easily. Yes the platform is cool and seeing the thread can really say the devs are serious with its concept. But if its gonna bw converted into nft, something more in demand in use case should be prioritize here and also must think on how the ecosystem would boost and create incomes too to make it stable. Anyway, the project is superb and having additional features could be a game changer for this too.

[jrrsparkles]

It is no big deal because its basically a three dimensional scanning and NFT infusion nothing really useful with it. It can be a good hobby to persue and start scanning everything they have and maybe few centuries later people will be ready to spend money to buy because it is called antiques.

[Cee2]

What are your thoughts on this topic?

Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
  
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ

Virtual objects? But why? What's the deal of scanning some low poly file versions from rocks "to the blockchain"? How is this tech revolutionary now when scanning objects to 3d has existed for a long time now? I can see no real life importance in this what so ever.

Edit: googled about it so you might want to link an announcement of your project to the topic, not 40 sec video of a low poly blob rotating. And after reading your announcement it sounds like from the very first quoted sentence that only idea is how to grab money from nfts.

"I was trying to find a way to create recoverable passwords out of real objects being used as a seed data. But when managed, I realized that I found something more powerful - the method of tokenization of real and virtual things, which opens the the door for cryptocurrency market to trillions deals all over the world." PaulS

...and that's an opposite of revolutional when everyone is trying to grab money with it. It's a superimposed solution for a problem that didn't exist in the first place so you might want to be less pompous when marketing it.

this is not limited to a low poly file but any objects and if the devs deliver on the whitepaper features this could extend to any physical object with a fixed shape, fingerprints, face recognition, sounds etc.

I agree those technologies have existed for a long time but in my opinion all in silo. With this technology you can scan a real life object and bring this into digital format on the 3DP blockchain. Due to some scanning being involved you would also not have any copycats in theory. Currently bringing objects into the metaverse is limited to you designing it yourself on a software or purchasing it.

Think about this application you purchased a beautiful painting whilst on holiday. You now scan this painting and put it on the 3DP blockchain. You import into the metaverse and anyone who tries to upload this painting will get blocked due to the similarity.

I think the application would be above just NFTs. I mean you have a lot of traffic in the metaverse and I think it would only be natural to have a highway for real life objects into the metaverse. In my opinion this highway will be 3DPass.

I don't think it is a superimposed problem. Humans like to flex their wealth and I think it would reasonable to assume that if the metaverse takes off that people would want to also flaunt their real life assets on the metaverse with the assurance of not having any duplicates. One challenge which hasn't been solved yet from the project is the proof of ownership since in theory any who scans something first would be the owner.

I added the ANN thread to make it transparent. What I really want to emphasise is that I discovered this project from the ANN and have been fascinated by it since then.

[Cee2]

NFTs trend is over bro.

You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).

Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.

NFT is more of the buzzword that get'S everyones attention but this could apply to a lot more than just regular NFT.

see my reply to o48o above why I think it goes beyond NFTs and also how to avoid duplication/copycats.

If this concept takes of like I hope then it could mean that someone has a real life asset get's it on the 3DPass blockchain and has ownership in real life and on a blockchain.

Real life items get sold all the time and with this sale you could also sell it on the blockchain.

I encourage you to read the whitepaper https://3dpass.org/3DPass_white_paper.pdf

of course I could be completely in the wrong but if I'm right and 3DP becomes the official highway from the real world into the digital world then I think the potential is huge.

[Cee2]

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.

I think the idea is great and cool however the term revolutionary cant be attained that easily. Yes the platform is cool and seeing the thread can really say the devs are serious with its concept. But if its gonna bw converted into nft, something more in demand in use case should be prioritize here and also must think on how the ecosystem would boost and create incomes too to make it stable. Anyway, the project is superb and having additional features could be a game changer for this too.

first of all thanks for constructive feedback and please post your suggestions in the ANN thread. I know the devs see this as a community driven project and any proposal get's a response either on the ANN thread or active discord community. A feature that I proposed for the recognition of 2D drawings will be included in the future. The other possibility would be to develop any ideas into a dApp to generate those additional features.

NFT is the way to grab everyones attention but my thoughts are that I see this tech as more of a highway from the real world into the digital world. Just look at the amount of hype with the metaverse and if there was a tech that could be the gatekeeper of this highway with respect to originality etc. Currently for the ecosystem I have only ever thought about sales but maybe there is something I am overseeing.

[Silberman]

What are your thoughts on this topic?

Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.

I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
  
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ


Here is the link to the original ANN thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382009.0

I will be direct I do not see too much of a need for something like this, but I'm not a visionary, there are many things that have appeared in the market of cryptocurrencies that I found to be unnecessary and despite my opinion they became incredibly popular, so if you really believe in what you are doing you have no other option but to do your best and see if you're actually right and people support your idea that this is somehow revolutionary.

[john1010]

NFT is like a bubble, at first, it was attractive but when it is exposed to the heat, it will blow, and that is what happens to nft, all of the crypto enthusiasts now is back to the original foundation, crypto with innovation and offers a variety of features and of course security, scalability and strong system.

[isaac_clarke22]

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It is innovative, but I do not see any good reasons to really "invest" into it. I have a quite of a knowledge in Blender and 3D modelling, but through a little bit of displacement and mixture of gloss and emission node, people could just copy and replicate that 3D model easily. I understand that the technology might still be in development though.
I can recall a lot of Facebook about Metaverse VR and I was like meh to it. Sure, it could be the future, but it just does not click for me. Not sure about this one though.

Not really fan of NFTs though, but still this looked cool for me.

[Cee2]

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It is innovative, but I do not see any good reasons to really "invest" into it. I have a quite of a knowledge in Blender and 3D modelling, but through a little bit of displacement and mixture of gloss and emission node, people could just copy and replicate that 3D model easily. I understand that the technology might still be in development though.
I can recall a lot of Facebook about Metaverse VR and I was like meh to it. Sure, it could be the future, but it just does not click for me. Not sure about this one though.

Not really fan of NFTs though, but still this looked cool for me.

Not sure sounds like you’re open minded to the concept. Why not add your expertise as a community driven project to increase the security from such cheap duplicates? I encourage you to directly interact with the devs in the ANN thread or in Discord they are very responsive.

I know that when I’m currently mining I get a few rejects because the shape I’m trying to add to the blockchain already exists. I guess it would be impossible to stop people from remodeling but the catch should be to force them to make a significant enough change that it is easy to spot with the naked eye. This would also be one of the first things I would try to see how much alteration I need for it to get accepted on the 3DPass blockchain as an original. For example if I have a baguette and cut it in half would it differentiate the full and half size Version.
Also think about simple 2D items/drawings the recognition algorithmi should work quite well here.

[dothebeats]

People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.

[blockman]

You can do that last year but not that gonna trend anymore. As they say, the trend for NFTs is now gone and it's not the same anymore. You may try if you want to.
But most likely the result is just going to discourage you and that will show you if you ever try to do what you're thinking in your mind because there could be no more buyers of new NFTs.

[Cee2]

People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.

Of course anyone can try and generate a 3D file but humans love Shortcuts and if you have an app that can do this for you the majority of people would use this.

This is more than an NFT gimmick as this is just one application but another application as stated in the whitepaper is “ Password, recoverable by means of scanning the object”

Imagine having a particular item of extreme importance that only you know plus your fingerprint being your password. This would mean that only you can recover it and it would be difficult for anyone to hack since you probably don‘t even need to write it down to remember. Just have to make sure the item doesn‘t get thrown away.

I think with a bit of creativity the application will be much more than just NFTs. Just to add I still think the 3DPass NFTs will be the next evolution for NFTs in general with respect to uniqueness and not having copycats on the 3DPass blockchain due to the recognition algorithm.

[isaac_clarke22]

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As much as I appreciate interacting with the dev, I would have to pass for now plus doing stuffs in Blender is just a side hobby for me. I currently just tread around the forum for few hours to watch how Bitcoin innovates throughout the year. Though this 3D stuffs is really something especially that there are mining involve to it, I cannot say that I would be too invested for now in this.

Still appreciate the work regardless though. Good luck!

[Cryptornd]

 Ofcourse. in this topic you are talking about clearly show us the next big usercase with NFTs  and VR  technology . there will be many many new projects on the market which is trying to give what you are talking about.  this is a big topic and great technology . if any project is able to make it true ,definitely there will be a huge market for that project . you may remember how  sandbox and mana pumped to  moon and how big market it acquire . this is a bigger topic than just NFTs and metaverse which must use VR and AI technologies.

[chum_yum]

People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.

In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.

[o48o]

One challenge which hasn't been solved yet from the project is the proof of ownership since in theory any who scans something first would be the owner.

Don't you think that this is main issue with it? Instead of making a project and hoping you find a smart contract solution that has been a holy grail of securities that everyone is trying to crack seems kind of a distant dream. It's a major problem that can't be easily solved as you need code that doesn't even exist yet. Closest i can think of is Dusk but they are still on testnet phase. I think you have started the development from the wrong end.

In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.

Initial rights for anything as a permissionless token holder are shaky at best. You would need whole new approach.

[Cee2]

One challenge which hasn't been solved yet from the project is the proof of ownership since in theory any who scans something first would be the owner.

Don't you think that this is main issue with it? Instead of making a project and hoping you find a smart contract solution that has been a holy grail of securities that everyone is trying to crack seems kind of a distant dream. It's a major problem that can't be easily solved as you need code that doesn't even exist yet. Closest i can think of is Dusk but they are still on testnet phase. I think you have started the development from the wrong end.

In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.

Initial rights for anything as a permissionless token holder are shaky at best. You would need whole new approach.

My thinking on the ownership topic is that you have the option for a multi Hash ID consisting of multiple items.

The whitepaper quotes the following

“ • Hash 1 = object shape + weight + clarity
• Hash 2 = 1st object shape + 2nd object shape + owners iris scan
 • Hash 3 = object shape + weight + owner’s fingerprint “

So yes maybe someone has the copy but I’m guessing the original could come with an additional certificate etc.

Similar to how 2 factor authentication works but maybe now 3 or 4 factor authentication.

You could also develop dApps/websites as an authenticity check etc since we are talking about a permissionless coin. The framework is there to develop the required ecosystem around it potentially?

Feel free to join the discord or the ANN thread and share your concerns or other feedback.