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September 10, 2022, 07:19:48 AM
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welcome to the forum guys , Welcome to bitcointalk hope your doing best .

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because everything need to be said had been broadcast above by fellow members .

your site looks good but the main concern is the KYC but since you already called it out , I think that we will need to wait for what this site may bring more in the future.


Reading the reply from arcanebet they are considering making changes to KYC and if I'm not mistaken there are also casinos that make changes regarding KYC after many suggestions came from members of this forum, it's uncommon for casinos to immediately implement KYC on the first deposit especially not it mentions the deposit value that must do KYC because it means that making low amount deposit will mandatory for KYC
Let us wait what they will bring to this issue soon , its too early to predict what will be the outcome of our concern.

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September 10, 2022, 07:56:38 AM
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Welcome to the forum. Literally, I read all the comments to see if someone else had already asked a similar question or not. The web interface looks excellent and Unique to me. I wouldn't say I liked the mandatory KYC, even for crypto players (Bitcoiners always try to be anonymous). The main thing I was looking for is Provably fair games and In-House games. But, I was disappointed too. There is not a single provably fair game available. I hope you guys will look into it. In-Build chat will be awesome.

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Welcome to this forum , just listen to the advise because gamblers is your target here so best to follow their request.
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September 10, 2022, 08:24:23 AM
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

It's all in the terms of service and FAQs. When you register on the site, you must check a box saying you agree to their terms and conditions. It is important that everyone reads these before using any platform. It might be mind-numbingly boring, but this way, you can avoid any nasty surprises and count on the company to be up-front about their intentions.

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September 10, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

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September 10, 2022, 09:09:19 AM
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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

Maybe it is a standard general rule in fiat casino but in this casino arcanebet is different. As reviewed by lionheart in the 1st page, he can see the deposit address without KYC so it means that anyone can deposit without finishing KYC first. In my opinion, it is better if arcanebet put a warning in the deposit page to remind players that KYC is required for withdrawal.

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September 10, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
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In TaC there is only a recommendation to pass KYC as soon as possible, even if you do not need to withdraw funds, so you can make a deposit without passing verification, but after making a deposit in case of winning you will have to do it section #7 last paragraph:

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September 10, 2022, 10:33:28 AM
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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

That is a good way preventing new users that are against the KYC regulation from playing on their platform. We know that many people don't bother reading the ToS or FAQ when trying a new gambling website. They just immediately deposit some amount and get excited to try their platform. If they manage to win some amounts and the website asks them to comply to the KYC before withdrawing, they suddenly accuse them of being a scam because it won't release their funds even if it's their fault in the beginning.
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September 10, 2022, 11:18:07 AM
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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms.
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This is false information. Where did you get that from?

It is clearly stated in their ToS and FAQ that the casino will require KYC when withdrawing funds, but not when depositing crypto.

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Players who chose the playing with crypto option while registering only need to provide their personal information when making their first withdrawal.
https://www.arcanebet.com/en/support/faq#when-do-i-need-to-verify-my-identity

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September 10, 2022, 07:28:23 PM
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Welcome to the forum!


So don't make the mistake of depositing without doing a KYC verification first, you might find it problematic if you do.

Looks like another typical gambling site nowadays ? that they will let you deposit and play and of course Lose and lose  but once you won and start to withdraw ? then the problem occur .

heya,  I wanted to clear that I am not inciting that the casino's aim is to trick the player into depositing and then don't allow them to withdraw if they won a huge amount.  I am just citing a possibility that KYC might not be approved due to some instances.  Like for my case, I kinda find it difficult to produce my proof of residency since I do not own the house,  the bill receipt for both water and electricity even my internet connection bill isn't under my name.  The only proof of residency I have is the address written on my government-released ID which can't be used as proof of residency.  I have to get a certificate of residency from the local authority (Brgy certificate) but it isn't accepted sometimes (like in Huobi verification).

So players in the same kind of situation as I am may find it problematic if they failed to complete their KYC but already deposited some funds.

I understand if they can detect you depositing and withdrawing without wagering as this is part of their security to not being used by abuser who use site as exchange but with deposit and play and then required KYC? i think this is something needs to be addressed.

Well at least the site shows us that the withdrawal is disabled unless we perform a KYC,  but the problem is that "excited players" often missed checking if the withdrawal function is enabled.  Though it would be a good move to disable both deposit and withdrawal until the player undergoes KYC and got approved.  This way, lots of same problem about withdrawal will not happen.

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September 10, 2022, 07:39:09 PM
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

You got it mixed up. They would ask for KYC upon withdrawal and not upon deposit. If they don't allow anyone to deposit without performing a KYC, it would be a bad move since a lot of people would surely want to try things out first before getting fully committed on the platform. Arcanebet can always choose to give out play credits on their users but with this way, they can easily get a trickle of profits and letting people play the game with actual money.

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September 10, 2022, 08:40:08 PM
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They always have an option for the interested party to try the game for free.  So if anyone wanted to have a feel of Arcanebet games, they can just go to the site, go to the provider of the game they wanted to play and just click the >> try for free<<, you can then play the game even without registering to the site.
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September 10, 2022, 08:59:38 PM
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They always have an option for the interested party to try the game for free.  So if anyone wanted to have a feel of Arcanebet games, they can just go to the site, go to the provider of the game they wanted to play and just click the >> try for free<<, you can then play the game even without registering to the site.
That's why they wanted to let people try the site's games first before they decide to play with actual money or not. That's why dothebeats said that arcanebet can always choose to give out play credits on their users. Would you prefer to deposit on a site where you cannot try playing the game even just using a play money or play credits before depositing actual money or not?. My answer would be yes and that way we can always try out the games before gambling for real.
It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.

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September 10, 2022, 09:08:20 PM
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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.
That's what happen to me when I was checking a casino but sadly I can't even test their games or even wanted to explore the site but in order to do that is I have to create an account but in the end, it made me skip the site and find another site to test first. So yes, I think it should be a standard for the casinos to be once they launch their casino for different people to try out first before using actual money.

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September 10, 2022, 10:12:03 PM
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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.
That's what happen to me when I was checking a casino but sadly I can't even test their games or even wanted to explore the site but in order to do that is I have to create an account but in the end, it made me skip the site and find another site to test first. So yes, I think it should be a standard for the casinos to be once they launch their casino for different people to try out first before using actual money.

I very much agree in regards to the importance and reasons why.

Besides the mentioned arguments, we noticed it is also essential for the already active player. With many new games being released weekly, it requires a large budget to test them out to learn more about the slot specifics such as mechanics, free spins feature, bonus hit frequency, etc.

Demo / Free play mode allows players to learn more about the slot to determine if it's something they like without having their funds exposed and avoid disappointment in case the game is not appealing enough.

So yes, certainly try games in demo mode first. I have had my fair share of disappointments, having experienced bonus features that are equally "exciting" as the base game itself... Smiley

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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.
That's what happen to me when I was checking a casino but sadly I can't even test their games or even wanted to explore the site but in order to do that is I have to create an account but in the end, it made me skip the site and find another site to test first. So yes, I think it should be a standard for the casinos to be once they launch their casino for different people to try out first before using actual money.
Some do really need for you to make some registration before you could able to fully utilize the features and its up to someone if they do really able to bare out the hassle on making registration for the

sake of trying out the game and it is really indeed available on some platforms which you could definitely test out directly with those free credits and thats the only time whether you do decide to have

registration or would just simply skip out.Well, some are really just too lazy and wants to have that easy and fast dealing with things.  Cheesy

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welcome to the forum, I would like to understand the following:

you have curacao license, the same license that most crypto casinos have and most crypto casinos do not ask for KYC when customers are depositing and withdrawing in cryptocurrencies, so in what part is your curacao license different from the curacao license that do all casinos have?

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino

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