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September 08, 2022, 10:13:24 AM
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Dear Bitcointalk members,

We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members.
arcanebet opened its online doors as an esports betting operator back in 2017. A few years later (January 2020), we launched our casino platform (solely based on FIAT currencies), and since then, we have evolved a lot. Today, we offer over 8 different cryptocurrencies, including BTC, ETH, LTC, USDT, and more!

We’re welcoming players from many different regions worldwide and serve a wide selection of crypto-friendly slots, exceeding more than 3000 games, ready to be played. With our generous promotions & loyalty system, players receive rewards for every spin they make, win or lose. During your journey with us, our experienced support team is always available to assist you whenever you need it.

Our strength at arcanebet is offering our players a highly individual, service-driven, and rewarding experience, complemented by a reliable platform that will not disappoint you. All our games are crypto-friendly, allowing you to play with any desirable currency.

On top of this, your sessions with us are automatically rewarded by our progressive loyalty system and complemented by a dedicated VIP manager once you reach a certain level.
We’re super excited about entering the crypto space. We will remain close to our players to optimize our services based on their feedback and ensure we provide the best playing experience possible.

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September 08, 2022, 11:54:34 AM
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Where is the link to your Casino?, I didn't find it, better to include in your ANN
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September 08, 2022, 01:19:14 PM
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Where is the link to your Casino?, I didn't find it, better to include in your ANN

Hi there!

Thanks for your comment, we should have indeed included a link in our ANN. Just updated it accordingly, thanks for the feedback! Smiley
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September 08, 2022, 01:25:56 PM
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Welcome to BitcoinTalk!

You mentioned in your introduction that you started as an esports betting site. Is this / will this be part of your offering at arcanebet, or do you have a separate website that is functional currently for eSports betting (either with crypto or fiat currencies)?
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Welcome to the forum!

just curious if you guys have funds or marketing. if you do, I suggest buying a copper membership(the title allows you to post images which are restricted for newbie rank accounts) to make your ANN thread more presentable by posting images that showcase what your website is offering. also, if you guys want more exposure I suggest running a Signature Campaign or renting an ad slot in the forum.

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September 08, 2022, 01:51:24 PM
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Dear Bitcointalk members,

We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members.
arcanebet opened its online doors as an esports betting operator back in 2017. A few years later (January 2020), we launched our casino platform (solely based on FIAT currencies), and since then, we have evolved a lot. Today, we offer over 8 different cryptocurrencies, including BTC, ETH, LTC, USDT, and more!

We’re welcoming players from many different regions worldwide and serve a wide selection of crypto-friendly slots, exceeding more than 3000 games, ready to be played. With our generous promotions & loyalty system, players receive rewards for every spin they make, win or lose. During your journey with us, our experienced support team is always available to assist you whenever you need it.

Our strength at arcanebet is offering our players a highly individual, service-driven, and rewarding experience, complemented by a reliable platform that will not disappoint you. All our games are crypto-friendly, allowing you to play with any desirable currency.

On top of this, your sessions with us are automatically rewarded by our progressive loyalty system and complemented by a dedicated VIP manager once you reach a certain level.
We’re super excited about entering the crypto space. We will remain close to our players to optimize our services based on their feedback and ensure we provide the best playing experience possible.

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Hello, Op good day and welcome to the forum, as suggested above it's better to buy a copper membership if you are introducing your casino, it can help you to post images even if your rank is a newbie and it will make your thread more professional than ordinary Thread. also the more you put an effort into your thread the more the gamblers attract or catch the attention of your casino.

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September 08, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
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Welcome to the forum and am glad to see you make your way here since you launched in 2017 and adopted cryptocurrency in 2020, am sure you would have built a good community from your offline promotions, and as others have suggested you need to prepare a proper ANN thread that including images in the post will give you ANN thread more details of the services you provide on your casino. And you can also run a signature campaign on the forum to also increase the visibility of your brand around the forum. A quick run-through on your site or looks like you don't offer sports booking on your site and also no mention of the promotion news players will receive as a bonus.
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Welcome to the forum.

You should create a better ANN rather than that and maybe you can buy chopper members to add an image on your ANN like the other casino. I already visited your site and see the site has a simple design so I guess you will have a chance to grow your site better.

I want to ask about KYC as this matter is my concern and I think other people will think the same too. When do you implement KYC for your members? Is it when we want to withdraw a big amount of money or do you apply it randomly from time to time? How about using a VPN? Is it allowed?

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September 08, 2022, 02:14:29 PM
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I think I've read and seen the gambling site arcanebet.com in the casino.guru review a few days ago on this forum, at first glance it looks good, the games are also pretty decent like: slots, Jackpot, Blackjack, Roulette and others.

Sting me what I read and from experience reviews about arcanebet.com, as below.
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So, what games can't be played in countries such as: Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, especially Asia, at first glance I saw the famous and popular Arcanebet.com site in Ireland, is that true.

Maybe on the other hand, I don't comment much because I haven't registered and tried to play, bonuses and so on, I hope this is a good start for you here.

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September 08, 2022, 02:27:27 PM
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Dear Bitcointalk members,

We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members...

You can read the detailed review of ArcaneBet here: http://100bookies.com/arcanebet-review/

Hi there!

Thank you for sharing one of the many reviews about us! We notice the one shared is, unfortunately, old and outdated. For instance, as of today, we do not offer sports & esports betting and exclusively focus on casino. For those curious to learn more about our service we recommend you to visit our AskGamblers page where you can read a lot of genuine player reviews.
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I want to ask about KYC as this matter is my concern and I think other people will think the same too. When do you implement KYC for your members? Is it when we want to withdraw a big amount of money or do you apply it randomly from time to time? How about using a VPN? Is it allowed?
I believe any casinos will not answer neither withdrawing big amount or apply randomly since it's look like a red flag and anyone would stay away, they will answer when their system detect something suspicious under your account.

There's no rules about VPN on their terms, but they're against regarding multiple accounts and provide false location. I think they wouldn't allow VPN usage since it increase the chance of people abusing to create multiple accounts.
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Hey there, OP!

Congratulations for creating your gambling website. After checking the website, I could't help but to give you some feedback and recommendations:

  • First, try creating a certain mascot for your gambling website. This will establish your identity and personal face that would set you apart from other gambling websites;
  • Second, if it is possible, try also creating a live chat or a chat box for the gamblers to make it interactive and inviting. The more people you see chatting, the more inviting the gambling website would be; and
  • Lastly, if you have the funds, try creating a campaign signature in this forum. This will not only boost your advertisement, but this also creates a prima facie assumption that you are genuine about this website. This somehow creates an impression that the fact you can dish out funds for advertisement, it means that you are more dedicated and serious about it.

Those are some of the recommendations that I wanted to share. Good luck on your journey, OP.

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I want to ask about KYC as this matter is my concern and I think other people will think the same too. When do you implement KYC for your members? Is it when we want to withdraw a big amount of money or do you apply it randomly from time to time? How about using a VPN? Is it allowed?
I believe any casinos will not answer neither withdrawing big amount or apply randomly since it's look like a red flag and anyone would stay away, they will answer when their system detect something suspicious under your account.

There's no rules about VPN on their terms, but they're against regarding multiple accounts and provide false location. I think they wouldn't allow VPN usage since it increase the chance of people abusing to create multiple accounts.
It would be better if they could say it because it was related to the reputation they would build on this forum. If they answer, it will be applied randomly, we might consider trying their site anyway and never using big money to gamble. Maybe they will answer as you do but most cases happen when a user wants to withdraw big money after getting big wins. So it's a normal thing to ask.

They are against multiple accounts, which also applies to many casinos and it can be people who create multiple accounts to get more bonuses. Maybe some people will use a VPN because access in their country does not allow online gambling even though there is offline gambling in their country so they need a VPN to play online gambling.

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I want to ask about KYC as this matter is my concern and I think other people will think the same too. When do you implement KYC for your members? Is it when we want to withdraw a big amount of money or do you apply it randomly from time to time?

There is answer in the website about your question related to KYC by visiting the FAQ page, but let me make it easier for you to read as maybe you have no time to visit the casino and explore it a bit.



How about using a VPN? Is it allowed?

I tried to search about this in their FAQ and Terms page but I cant find information related to the rules about VPN.
If you are not from the forbidden countries (check the FAQ page to see the list), better to use your own original IP address unless your ISP block the access.
Try to avoid using VPN because it seems that KYC is mostly mandatory in this site as what you can read on the above information.

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The name of the casino sounds attractive to me. After I visited your website, I did a little background check and I found out that you have a quite good reputation. I'm glad that you decided to introduce your casino here.
It is always great to see established casino which originally a fiat casino adapt new transaction methods like Bitcoin.
I'll be looking forward more about your casino. Hope you the best!

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Welcome to the forum!

I registered on the site to explore how the system works.  I found out that there is no problem depositing in cryptocurrency, you can deposit without undergoing any KYC verification but the withdrawal function is disabled until we do KYC verification and got approved.

Deposit with cryptocurrency is easy:



While withdrawing needs KYC



So don't make the mistake of depositing without doing a KYC verification first, you might find it problematic if you do.


Echoing the question about VPN,  is it ok to use VPN to access game providers as long as we are not listed on the Casino's restricted regions?

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We reviewed Arcanebet a while go: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/arcanebet-casino/  Cool

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We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members.
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Do you have any lottery and lotto games available in your casino?
Can you confirm that players can't withdraw any coins unless they pass kyc verification?

I registered on the site to explore how the system works.  I found out that there is no problem depositing in cryptocurrency, you can deposit without undergoing any KYC verification but the withdrawal function is disabled until we do KYC verification and got approved.
This sounds like one more familiar cheap trick done by some other casinos and they just want to lure more customers that way.
It's better to read terms carefully and don't use any casino if you are not willing to pass key verification.

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I thought that this was an another thread of review sites popping up out of nowhere recently. Copper membership is bought and no problem about that but the thread itself only focus on text only ann thread if this will be the new ann thread if there's an ann already posted before when launching the platform long ago. I would suggest making it more presentable would surely attract some gamblers if you ask me but for me right now seems not interesting in my own opinion though withdrawal and deposit does accept different cryptocurrencies which I would surely want in a casino.

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Welcome to Bitcointalk and please be sure to inform us of your VPN policies and KYC procedures. There will be alot interested to know of both of these issues.

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We reviewed Arcanebet a while go: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/arcanebet-casino/  Cool
Since the OP thread is quiet confusing and not that attractive, I headed to this review right away and it’s good to see a licensed gambling site that operates for 2 years now, though upon checking they are requiring for a KYC. I don’t know if that is mandatory upon registration or upon withdrawal. Well, this site can be the favorite of many especially if there’s no KYC, unfortunately it is required.

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I thought that this was an another thread of review sites popping up out of nowhere recently. Copper membership is bought and no problem about that but the thread itself only focus on text only ann thread if this will be the new ann thread if there's an ann already posted before when launching the platform long ago. I would suggest making it more presentable would surely attract some gamblers if you ask me but for me right now seems not interesting in my own opinion though withdrawal and deposit does accept different cryptocurrencies which I would surely want in a casino.
^ Presentable and attractive announcement thread would be preferable and must be included in the marketing strategy.
With an image, of course, to easily catch the attention of those who read the head topic of the thread and that's definitely what you have pointed out. Late, I will try to explore this gambling casino, because usually, those gambling casinos that are new to the gambling business will have more bonuses and promotions which have benefited us as users.
However, to OP, welcome to the community, and let us see if what interesting games you have there that can lure us as a gambler.
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We reviewed Arcanebet a while go: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/arcanebet-casino/  Cool

That's a decent rating for a casino, they could have got a higher rating if not for the very strict KYC they implement
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We are required, by law, to verify all of our players' identities. We do this to comply with the requirements of our licenses, and to maintain the responsibility of actively preventing underage gambling and potential criminal activity on our platform.
Players should take note of this since they mentioned the word all in their KYC, we are used to random withdrawals or when they suspect our account only to do KYC, players should read their TOS and understand before playing but overall the casino looks great and competitive the announcement needs a lot to be desired, they should do more if they want to stand out here, design matters here in Bitcointalk.


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When I've read the name of the casino, it's something that like is related to games, "arcane". LOL.
That's a decent rating for a casino, they could have got a higher rating if not for the very strict KYC they implement
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Players should take note of this since they mentioned the word all in their KYC, we are used to random withdrawals or when they suspect our account only to do KYC, players should read their TOS and understand before playing but overall the casino looks great and competitive the announcement needs a lot to be desired, they should do more if they want to stand out here, design matters here in Bitcointalk.
I guess there's no other way for the majority of these casinos to have that non-kyc implementation. There are still a few of them but let's just expect that the other batches would also do the same in terms of kyc because they're being required by their country and the law that it states where they're based.

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When I've read the name of the casino, it's something that like is related to games, "arcane". LOL.
That's a decent rating for a casino, they could have got a higher rating if not for the very strict KYC they implement
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We are required, by law, to verify all of our players' identities. We do this to comply with the requirements of our licenses, and to maintain the responsibility of actively preventing underage gambling and potential criminal activity on our platform.
Players should take note of this since they mentioned the word all in their KYC, we are used to random withdrawals or when they suspect our account only to do KYC, players should read their TOS and understand before playing but overall the casino looks great and competitive the announcement needs a lot to be desired, they should do more if they want to stand out here, design matters here in Bitcointalk.
I guess there's no other way for the majority of these casinos to have that non-kyc implementation. There are still a few of them but let's just expect that the other batches would also do the same in terms of kyc because they're being required by their country and the law that it states where they're based.

what they can do is have a lil bit of room with this kyc requirement. why not require this to players that will exceed certain amount of deposits or withdrawals? just like most of the licensed casinos/bookies here. what i encounter most is that the site will only require kyc once they reach their accumulated deposits or withdrawals to about $2k or €2k, depending on where the casino is licensed. in that way, they can attract small rollers at first, because they don't need to submit kyc. but once they are satisfied with the casino, submitting kyc may not be a problem to them later on.

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We reviewed Arcanebet a while go: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/arcanebet-casino/  Cool

That's a decent rating for a casino, they could have got a higher rating if not for the very strict KYC they implement
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We are required, by law, to verify all of our players' identities. We do this to comply with the requirements of our licenses, and to maintain the responsibility of actively preventing underage gambling and potential criminal activity on our platform.
Players should take note of this since they mentioned the word all in their KYC, we are used to random withdrawals or when they suspect our account only to do KYC, players should read their TOS and understand before playing but overall the casino looks great and competitive the announcement needs a lot to be desired, they should do more if they want to stand out here, design matters here in Bitcointalk.
This is the details what I actually need, KYC is my first concern when it comes to a new site or supposed new into this platform.
The site looks good and there's no doubt about it, but making this thread very plain is quiet not effective and mostly many wants to see that highlights of this site especially on what they can offer and what are the bonuses and promotions available in this site. It's good to have that reviews right away so we can know if its worth to try or not.

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We reviewed Arcanebet a while go: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/arcanebet-casino/  Cool

That's a decent rating for a casino, they could have got a higher rating if not for the very strict KYC they implement
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We are required, by law, to verify all of our players' identities. We do this to comply with the requirements of our licenses, and to maintain the responsibility of actively preventing underage gambling and potential criminal activity on our platform.
Players should take note of this since they mentioned the word all in their KYC, we are used to random withdrawals or when they suspect our account only to do KYC, players should read their TOS and understand before playing but overall the casino looks great and competitive the announcement needs a lot to be desired, they should do more if they want to stand out here, design matters here in Bitcointalk.
This is the details what I actually need, KYC is my first concern when it comes to a new site or supposed new into this platform.
The site looks good and there's no doubt about it, but making this thread very plain is quiet not effective and mostly many wants to see that highlights of this site especially on what they can offer and what are the bonuses and promotions available in this site. It's good to have that reviews right away so we can know if its worth to try or not.

Actually, they are not new in the gambling business.
The OP mentioned, they started as fiat-based gambling site, and later on, added crypto in their payment method.
As you can see, they have license also, hence, the KYC requirement.
You can also check their domain registration here -
https://www.whois.com/whois/arcanebet.com

But it is understandable for most users here who don't prefer to submit KYC.
A lot of reputable casinos here don't require KYC from their users up until now.
So there's no worry if you don't want to play with them as you have other choices also.
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I want to ask about KYC as this matter is my concern and I think other people will think the same too. When do you implement KYC for your members? Is it when we want to withdraw a big amount of money or do you apply it randomly from time to time?

There is answer in the website about your question related to KYC by visiting the FAQ page, but let me make it easier for you to read as maybe you have no time to visit the casino and explore it a bit.



How about using a VPN? Is it allowed?

I tried to search about this in their FAQ and Terms page but I cant find information related to the rules about VPN.
If you are not from the forbidden countries (check the FAQ page to see the list), better to use your own original IP address unless your ISP block the access.
Try to avoid using VPN because it seems that KYC is mostly mandatory in this site as what you can read on the above information.
I miss that part, my bad. Thanks for mentioning it.

So no matter how much we want to withdraw, we must verify our account before they continue the process.

Oh, by the way, I tried to register but there is no email confirmation from them. Is there no need to do confirmation through email instead directly verifying our account?

I wonder if people from forbidden countries will not try playing on that casino using a VPN because sometimes, I check a connection through my original IP and see that connection block the access to the site but after I use a premium VPN that has IP from my country, I can access the site. Bit strange, isn't it?

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Dear Bitcointalk members,

We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members...

You can read the detailed review of ArcaneBet here: http://100bookies.com/arcanebet-review/

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Thank you for sharing one of the many reviews about us! We notice the one shared is, unfortunately, old and outdated. For instance, as of today, we do not offer sports & esports betting and exclusively focus on casino. For those curious to learn more about our service we recommend you to visit our AskGamblers page where you can read a lot of genuine player reviews.
So you have closed sports bettings and e-sports bettings, and also you have included crypto as one of the payment options.
Is everything in the ToS and FAQ up to date? meaning it's all been updated after your website focused on casinos only and also after including crypto.

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Welcome to the forum first of all.
Your announcement thread can be improved with images and styling. And you can do this by purchasing a copper membership here in the forum.
Coming to the site, you have mentioned that we can play slots with cryptos. So are we only limited to slots ? Can’t we place bets on sports events with cryptos?
Moreover I guess as you are 5 years old, you should have many gamblers playing in the site, it would have been great if you could share us some numbers of how many daily users play on site. This will help us to trust the site more.

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Thanks, everyone, for your feedback and advice!

It seems we stumbled upon a nice community here; that's very cool to see.

To make the ANN more presentable, as advised by most of you, we have purchased the copper membership and are working on updating our ANN!

Regarding the two most commonly asked questions:

We do not look at the usage of VPN as a criterion for processing withdrawals. The only context in which it is considered an element is when an account is depositing with a deposit bonus that has revealed connections to other accounts, equally using bonuses on each deposit.

However, our reward program for crypto-players works differently. We reward players for their activity with us and give them a percentage back of their theoretical loss. This we complement by rewards based on the real loss, if those occurred.

We are licensed in Curaçao, which offers you as a player some additional protection over those websites that are not regulated anywhere (though you can also be unlicensed and run a legitimate business, don't get us wrong). Still, the downside is that we are required to verify your identity when requesting a withdrawal by law. The KYC procedure is very light and very fast though. On average, documents are approved within 40 minutes at arcanebet, and all we need is a copy of your identity card and proof of address. We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached, as @AmoreJaz suggested above. Our legal department is validating this possibility.

As stated in the introduction, we appreciate all the feedback as we believe it is essential to optimize and ensure we provide the best playing experience possible.

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We are licensed in Curaçao, which offers you as a player some additional protection over those websites that are not regulated anywhere (though you can also be unlicensed and run a legitimate business, don't get us wrong). Still, the downside is that we are required to verify your identity when requesting a withdrawal by law. The KYC procedure is very light and very fast though. On average, documents are approved within 40 minutes at arcanebet, and all we need is a copy of your identity card and proof of address. We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached, as @AmoreJaz suggested above. Our legal department is validating this possibility.

There are many other casinos in this forum that are also licensed in Curacao but they do not implement mandatory KYC. If they can do it, means that you can do it as well. It is better to have optional KYC where you ask player for specific reasons only such as for huge withdrawal or for accounts with suspicious activity. You ask KYC for withdrawal but you let players (especially crypto players) to deposit without KYC may lead you into a problem. So if you ask KYC for all withdrawal, better to ask it first when players want to make deposit.

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@arcanebetcasino, first of all, welcome to Bitcointalk. I hope you'll find this little community worth sticking around for a while.  Grin

Your site looks professional and well-designed, with a wide variety of games. Overall, it looks like you've done a great job with the site that captures most of the relevant information users will want to find, while still managing to look attractive. I like that you have so many games listed to choose from, so it looks like there'll be plenty of things to play at. Introducing cryptocurrencies is a great way to try and attract newer users, though it might be a little more difficult to get them to engage with your casino. There are plenty of longtime casino users who stick with the same site year after year, and there isn't much incentive for them to leave.

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The definition of arcane is something that is secret or that only a few people know about or understand.  Grin  I bet you do not want that part of your name to be applied to the people that access your casino... right.

The name actually peaked my interest, because one of my favorite songs "Enemy" - from Imagine Dragons was used in a Anime series on Netflix, called "Arcane" .... so I tried it ..just because I liked your site name.  Wink

Good luck..... hope to see a lot more from you guys on this forum.  Wink

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Dear Bitcointalk members,

We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members...

You can read the detailed review of ArcaneBet here: http://100bookies.com/arcanebet-review/

Hi there!

Thank you for sharing one of the many reviews about us! We notice the one shared is, unfortunately, old and outdated. For instance, as of today, we do not offer sports & esports betting and exclusively focus on casino. For those curious to learn more about our service we recommend you to visit our AskGamblers page where you can read a lot of genuine player reviews.
So you have closed sports bettings and e-sports bettings, and also you have included crypto as one of the payment options.
Is everything in the ToS and FAQ up to date? meaning it's all been updated after your website focused on casinos only and also after including crypto.

Heya! Glad to answer your question.

Ofcourse, if we push out an update or remove parts of our website we will update T&C + FAQ accordingly. We like to keep everything up-to-date on our side so that players can find the right information there and not be misleaded by any outdated information.

Hope this answers your question.

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Actually, they are not new in the gambling business.
The OP mentioned, they started as fiat-based gambling site, and later on, added crypto in their payment method.
As you can see, they have license also, hence, the KYC requirement.
You can also check their domain registration here -
https://www.whois.com/whois/arcanebet.com

But it is understandable for most users here who don't prefer to submit KYC.
A lot of reputable casinos here don't require KYC from their users up until now.
So there's no worry if you don't want to play with them as you have other choices also.


That could be the reason that they made it mandatory for all their players to go through KYC its been on their TOS since their fiat days and now they cannot change their TOS even if they are now accepting Cryptocurrency, unfortunately, there is a big market for non KYC or selective KYC and they are losing in that market, they will not have a hard time establishing their presence here because gamblers trust old casinos, let's see if they can compete with other top casinos here.

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Your ANN post is too formal, and we don't see what we want to see in a new name/casino that is looking to advertise here in this forum. Buy a copper membership and post some screeenshots of your casino in action, and some of the games that you have to offer in order for us to get hyped on your platform without having to create an account. You have lots of games on your platform after a quick search, it seems that you are in the game for quite some time now. You guys need to up your advertisement game in order to get noticed in the crypto space. It's a tough competition out here.

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September 09, 2022, 12:54:47 PM
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@arcanebetcasino, first of all, welcome to Bitcointalk. I hope you'll find this little community worth sticking around for a while.  Grin

Your site looks professional and well-designed, with a wide variety of games. Overall, it looks like you've done a great job with the site that captures most of the relevant information users will want to find, while still managing to look attractive. I like that you have so many games listed to choose from, so it looks like there'll be plenty of things to play at. Introducing cryptocurrencies is a great way to try and attract newer users, though it might be a little more difficult to get them to engage with your casino. There are plenty of longtime casino users who stick with the same site year after year, and there isn't much incentive for them to leave.

Still, I like what I've seen so far, and I think you're definitely on the right track to success. When it comes to building a reputation here, if you act professionally, post comments frequently, and respond to questions in a timely manner, the community will respect you. This will help you leave a positive impact on your potential customers and develop a solid reputation. And, with that in mind, don't forget to be patient: it takes a while to get used to the community here, but once you do, you'll realize that it's fairly friendly.


Hey there @FatFork!

Very much appreciate your warm welcome and friendly advice. We're positively surprised with the messages we've received from the Bitcointalk community.

We're definitely looking to stay around here and improve our services based on the feedback we receive from the community!

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We're definitely looking to stay around here and improve our services based on the feedback we receive from the community!

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That's good but you have to get that message to the whole community here by launching a marketing campaign like buying ad space here in Bitcointalk or launching a signature campaign, if you check around you'll see that those who have a large share of the market here and those that the community trusted are those who spent in the marketing campaign, of course, community interaction and always updating your announcement is a big help, and make sure that there are no legit complaints in the scam section.

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Amazing welcome to the bitcointalk community and upon checking also most of the games I want is in the list which is good at the same time it is new to me having a new tab for the winners because most of the time the gamblers wins history at the very landing page of the game and of course it is a good opportunity at the same time with the new accounts bonuses to gather more players. Also another question base on the verification do the users must need to submit a KYC or just basic information of them?.

Hey @Peanutswar!

Thanks for your warm welcome, much appreciated! We have indeed gone for a different approach in terms of displaying our lucky and big winners by creating a completely different section for it on a different tab, we think it's quite cool having our own Hall of Fame page.

To answer your question I would like to refer to a post we made earlier today;  "We are licensed in Curaçao, which offers you as a player some additional protection over those websites that are not regulated anywhere (though you can also be unlicensed and run a legitimate business, don't get us wrong). Still, the downside is that we are required to verify your identity when requesting a withdrawal by law. The KYC procedure is very light and very fast though. On average, documents are approved within 40 minutes at arcanebet, and all we need is a copy of your identity card and proof of address. We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached, as @AmoreJaz suggested above. Our legal department is validating this possibility"

Hope this answers your question and we'll of course update here accordingly when there has been a decision made in regards to the KYC procedures.

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September 09, 2022, 01:39:31 PM
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Your ANN post is too formal, and we don't see what we want to see in a new name/casino that is looking to advertise here in this forum. Buy a copper membership and post some screeenshots of your casino in action, and some of the games that you have to offer in order for us to get hyped on your platform without having to create an account. You have lots of games on your platform after a quick search, it seems that you are in the game for quite some time now. You guys need to up your advertisement game in order to get noticed in the crypto space. It's a tough competition out here.

Hi @dothebeats,

Thanks for your feedback! We're on top of this and will soon edit our ANN to look much better, stay tuned Smiley

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September 09, 2022, 02:14:38 PM
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We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached, as @AmoreJaz suggested above. Our legal department is validating this possibility"

Hope this answers your question and we'll of course update here accordingly when there has been a decision made in regards to the KYC procedures.

Have you done a study and the TOS structure of other Cryptocurrency based casinos here in the Cryptocurrency casino industry, or are you not aware of procedures when it comes to KYC in this industry, its good to know that you are an old casino there is no question on your credibility, but you don't bring your structure here like what you did when you are in fiat, you check and study what the community accepts within the boundary of your license, of course, what@AmoreJaz suggested is possible, do check out Stake and other casinos, as they say when in Rome do as the Romans do. 

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September 09, 2022, 03:24:56 PM
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Welcome to the forum

Since you're already bought copper membership, I think it's better for you to hire a designer to design your ANN to make your thread looks better. Good to see you're also supporting Ukraine, with the slick UI/UX and there's a lot slots can be played, I think your casino might become big casino in the future. Have you planning to run signature campaign or other promotions for Bitcointalk users? it will help you to attract more gamblers.

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September 09, 2022, 03:39:15 PM
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Hey all!

We are overwhelmed with all the warm welcome messages and would like to thank each and every one of you for that!

We've heard your feedback in regards to making our ANN more attractive and thus we have done so. We hope you like it Cheesy

We're glad to be here, and we're here to stay!

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September 09, 2022, 04:19:42 PM
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Hey all!

We are overwhelmed with all the warm welcome messages and would like to thank each and every one of you for that!

We've heard your feedback in regards to making our ANN more attractive and thus we have done so. We hope you like it Cheesy

We're glad to be here, and we're here to stay!

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Welcome to bitcointalk. In the description, you indicated, well, or it was indicated earlier, now the initial post has been changed and looks different, that the online casino was launched in 2020, I looked at your Twitter and the account was created only a year later and it was not active for almost a year, how did it happen?
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September 09, 2022, 04:58:45 PM
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Hey all!

We are overwhelmed with all the warm welcome messages and would like to thank each and every one of you for that!

We've heard your feedback in regards to making our ANN more attractive and thus we have done so. We hope you like it Cheesy

We're glad to be here, and we're here to stay!

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Welcome to bitcointalk. In the description, you indicated, well, or it was indicated earlier, now the initial post has been changed and looks different, that the online casino was launched in 2020, I looked at your Twitter and the account was created only a year later and it was not active for almost a year, how did it happen?

Hi Daltonik,

Thank you for welcoming us!

Although we have been around since 2017, our online casino has only been live starting from early 2020. As part of our decision to focus only on the casino vertical, we restarted most of our social channels, including Twitter.

Until recently, we have been primarily targetting FIAT players. During this extensive period, we found the impact and role of social media in engaging with the audience to be somewhat limited.

Therefore we have not always given an "active social media presence" the highest priority, or with spikes, depending on campaigns at that time.

This being said, we're planning on maintaining an active social media presence going forward Smiley

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September 09, 2022, 05:47:55 PM
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We do not look at the usage of VPN as a criterion for processing withdrawals. The only context in which it is considered an element is when an account is depositing with a deposit bonus that has revealed connections to other accounts, equally using bonuses on each deposit.
This makes sense because there are gamblers who will abuse the system if they can do it as much as they can.

Still, the downside is that we are required to verify your identity when requesting a withdrawal by law. The KYC procedure is very light and very fast though. On average, documents are approved within 40 minutes at arcanebet, and all we need is a copy of your identity card and proof of address. We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached
So, there will be no minimum amount for a customer of yours to be subject into KYC. Whether someone tries to withdraw with a small amount and not yet confirmed with KYC, you'll still ask for it.

It's nice that you're telling that as early as you can so that when new players come, they won't surprised if you asks them suddenly.

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September 09, 2022, 06:01:53 PM
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Regarding the two most commonly asked questions:

We do not look at the usage of VPN as a criterion for processing withdrawals. The only context in which it is considered an element is when an account is depositing with a deposit bonus that has revealed connections to other accounts, equally using bonuses on each deposit.

Hi Maurits,  thank you for taking the time to answer our inquiries.  Can I take your response towards VPN usage as allowed?  

Another question if you don't mind.  Taking as VPN is allowed,  we know that VPN provider uses a shared IP, if in case a recently opened account that uses a VPN happens to get the same IP with an account previously banned or suspected due to a bonus exploit (assuming they both use the same VPN provider) does it affect the newly opened account even though it does not claim any bonuses?  If the VPN usage becomes an element, how can an account involve prove his innocence?

Case scenario
New opened account is from Y country ( Initial registration)
Banned/suspected account is from x country (Initial registration)
Connection: same IP through VPN usage (VPN provider usage gives them the same IP)
Question: is the New opened account gets grounded for this?



I am interested in the use of a VPN because some of the game providers that I like are not available without the use of a VPN in my country, even though my country isn't on the restricted region list of the casino.

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September 09, 2022, 07:31:52 PM
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Regarding the two most commonly asked questions:

We do not look at the usage of VPN as a criterion for processing withdrawals. The only context in which it is considered an element is when an account is depositing with a deposit bonus that has revealed connections to other accounts, equally using bonuses on each deposit.

Hi Maurits,  thank you for taking the time to answer our inquiries.  Can I take your response towards VPN usage as allowed?  

Another question if you don't mind.  Taking as VPN is allowed,  we know that VPN provider uses a shared IP, if in case a recently opened account that uses a VPN happens to get the same IP with an account previously banned or suspected due to a bonus exploit (assuming they both use the same VPN provider) does it affect the newly opened account even though it does not claim any bonuses?  If the VPN usage becomes an element, how can an account involve prove his innocence?

Case scenario
New opened account is from Y country ( Initial registration)
Banned/suspected account is from x country (Initial registration)
Connection: same IP through VPN usage (VPN provider usage gives them the same IP)
Question: is the New opened account gets grounded for this?



I am interested in the use of a VPN because some of the game providers that I like are not available without the use of a VPN in my country, even though my country isn't on the restricted region list of the casino.

Thank you for the great question Lionheart78!

There are many variables involved when assessing abuse and we do take into consideration scenarios such as the one you described. Genuine players generally have nothing to worry about :-)


Welcome here. When I visit a new casino site the first thing I check is its UI design . Because if the design of a gambling site is not good then there is no comfortable feeling of gambling there. But I couldn't make any bad comments about the UI on this site . And I haven't registered here yet so I can't make much comment about this site. But it's nice to see that I don't need to use any kind of vpn to use it at my location.  i will create a account here and checked some games soon. Hope it doesn't disappoint me in any way

We are happy to hear you like our UI @smartaction! Please share your experience with us once you tried things out :-)
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We would love to introduce ourselves to the community and share our legacy with the Bitcointalk members.
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It is always great to see established casino which originally a fiat casino adapt new transaction methods like Bitcoin.
I'll be looking forward more about your casino. Hope you the best!
I thought I am the only one who noticed it? Not sure but I think the name is familiar and maybe I heard it before and not totally as a casino but how can you say that they have a good reputation? What are your basis? Was it the gambling review sites, trustpilot, etc? But, maybe that is legit since they claim that they are already here since 2017 and they start as an esports betting site.

Usually sites like that have a license and are mostly legit. They ventured the world of crypto because they also see that it's booming but they did the right choice as many crypto casinos are already successful now and they might be the next on the list.
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity before they letting them make their first deposit.

Edit: section 7 of ToS clearly states that players have to pass kyc to be able to deposit/withdraw.

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Thanks, everyone, for your feedback and advice!

It seems we stumbled upon a nice community here; that's very cool to see.

To make the ANN more presentable, as advised by most of you, we have purchased the copper membership and are working on updating our ANN!
First of all, I want to say welcome to the Bitcointalk forum

Based on the responses of other users I think you are quite good at receiving suggestions and feedback. Because then you show a good level of seriousness here. Regardless of the rules listed in your casino regarding KYC, maybe initially this casino is fiat based so it would be quite natural for KYC to be listed and based on the licenses I have seen. But because there is a new option namely crypto deposit which is identical to the anonymity of its users who are not very fond of KYC. Maybe KYC rules as (optional) if it's necessary for the sake and security.

Regarding ANN threads, maybe you need someone to manage your threads neatly and if you are planning to build a casino community on a wider forum and planning to run a promotional campaign it will be great because your casino is quite attracting the attention of the users here.

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Welcome to the forum!


So don't make the mistake of depositing without doing a KYC verification first, you might find it problematic if you do.

Looks like another typical gambling site nowadays ? that they will let you deposit and play and of course Lose and lose  but once you won and start to withdraw ? then the problem occur .

I understand if they can detect you depositing and withdrawing without wagering as this is part of their security to not being used by abuser who use site as exchange but with deposit and play and then required KYC? i think this is something needs to be addressed.









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September 10, 2022, 01:10:07 AM
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We are licensed in Curaçao, which offers you as a player some additional protection over those websites that are not regulated anywhere (though you can also be unlicensed and run a legitimate business, don't get us wrong). Still, the downside is that we are required to verify your identity when requesting a withdrawal by law. The KYC procedure is very light and very fast though. On average, documents are approved within 40 minutes at arcanebet, and all we need is a copy of your identity card and proof of address. We are indeed looking into requesting KYC only after a specific deposit and/or withdrawal threshold has been reached, as @AmoreJaz suggested above. Our legal department is validating this possibility.
There are many other casinos in this forum that are also licensed in Curacao but they do not implement mandatory KYC. If they can do it, means that you can do it as well. It is better to have optional KYC where you ask player for specific reasons only such as for huge withdrawal or for accounts with suspicious activity. You ask KYC for withdrawal but you let players (especially crypto players) to deposit without KYC may lead you into a problem. So if you ask KYC for all withdrawal, better to ask it first when players want to make deposit.
arcanebetcasino missed this question where very important to remove the KYC if depositing crypto. As he knows he creates that Ann thread on the bitcoin forum which averages all people here to deposit using crypto, if the website makes the Forbidden (KYC) for us, there's no point in all the improvisations if no one tried the website. He must think to lighten it up like the amount of withdrawal and only kyc address and phone number like another site did.

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Welcome guys , Mind listening to the majority and taking out that KYC requirements ? you'll earn no players if you will implement this even from starting , there are many casinos here that does not ask for the same process unless there is a  huge or bigger amount that needs to be taken so it may require KYC verification for both clearing , the player and the team.










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Welcome guys , Mind listening to the majority and taking out that KYC requirements ? you'll earn no players if you will implement this even from starting , there are many casinos here that does not ask for the same process unless there is a  huge or bigger amount that needs to be taken so it may require KYC verification for both clearing , the player and the team.

Reading the reply from arcanebet they are considering making changes to KYC and if I'm not mistaken there are also casinos that make changes regarding KYC after many suggestions came from members of this forum, it's uncommon for casinos to immediately implement KYC on the first deposit especially not it mentions the deposit value that must do KYC because it means that making low amount deposit will mandatory for KYC

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welcome to the forum guys , Welcome to bitcointalk hope your doing best .

maybe there is nothing to extend
because everything need to be said had been broadcast above by fellow members .

your site looks good but the main concern is the KYC but since you already called it out , I think that we will need to wait for what this site may bring more in the future.


Reading the reply from arcanebet they are considering making changes to KYC and if I'm not mistaken there are also casinos that make changes regarding KYC after many suggestions came from members of this forum, it's uncommon for casinos to immediately implement KYC on the first deposit especially not it mentions the deposit value that must do KYC because it means that making low amount deposit will mandatory for KYC
Let us wait what they will bring to this issue soon , its too early to predict what will be the outcome of our concern.

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Welcome to the forum. Literally, I read all the comments to see if someone else had already asked a similar question or not. The web interface looks excellent and Unique to me. I wouldn't say I liked the mandatory KYC, even for crypto players (Bitcoiners always try to be anonymous). The main thing I was looking for is Provably fair games and In-House games. But, I was disappointed too. There is not a single provably fair game available. I hope you guys will look into it. In-Build chat will be awesome.

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Welcome to this forum , just listen to the advise because gamblers is your target here so best to follow their request.
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

It's all in the terms of service and FAQs. When you register on the site, you must check a box saying you agree to their terms and conditions. It is important that everyone reads these before using any platform. It might be mind-numbingly boring, but this way, you can avoid any nasty surprises and count on the company to be up-front about their intentions.

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September 10, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

Maybe it is a standard general rule in fiat casino but in this casino arcanebet is different. As reviewed by lionheart in the 1st page, he can see the deposit address without KYC so it means that anyone can deposit without finishing KYC first. In my opinion, it is better if arcanebet put a warning in the deposit page to remind players that KYC is required for withdrawal.

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In TaC there is only a recommendation to pass KYC as soon as possible, even if you do not need to withdraw funds, so you can make a deposit without passing verification, but after making a deposit in case of winning you will have to do it section #7 last paragraph:

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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

That is a good way preventing new users that are against the KYC regulation from playing on their platform. We know that many people don't bother reading the ToS or FAQ when trying a new gambling website. They just immediately deposit some amount and get excited to try their platform. If they manage to win some amounts and the website asks them to comply to the KYC before withdrawing, they suddenly accuse them of being a scam because it won't release their funds even if it's their fault in the beginning.
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September 10, 2022, 11:18:07 AM
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Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms.
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This is false information. Where did you get that from?

It is clearly stated in their ToS and FAQ that the casino will require KYC when withdrawing funds, but not when depositing crypto.

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Players who chose the playing with crypto option while registering only need to provide their personal information when making their first withdrawal.
https://www.arcanebet.com/en/support/faq#when-do-i-need-to-verify-my-identity

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Welcome to the forum!


So don't make the mistake of depositing without doing a KYC verification first, you might find it problematic if you do.

Looks like another typical gambling site nowadays ? that they will let you deposit and play and of course Lose and lose  but once you won and start to withdraw ? then the problem occur .

heya,  I wanted to clear that I am not inciting that the casino's aim is to trick the player into depositing and then don't allow them to withdraw if they won a huge amount.  I am just citing a possibility that KYC might not be approved due to some instances.  Like for my case, I kinda find it difficult to produce my proof of residency since I do not own the house,  the bill receipt for both water and electricity even my internet connection bill isn't under my name.  The only proof of residency I have is the address written on my government-released ID which can't be used as proof of residency.  I have to get a certificate of residency from the local authority (Brgy certificate) but it isn't accepted sometimes (like in Huobi verification).

So players in the same kind of situation as I am may find it problematic if they failed to complete their KYC but already deposited some funds.

I understand if they can detect you depositing and withdrawing without wagering as this is part of their security to not being used by abuser who use site as exchange but with deposit and play and then required KYC? i think this is something needs to be addressed.

Well at least the site shows us that the withdrawal is disabled unless we perform a KYC,  but the problem is that "excited players" often missed checking if the withdrawal function is enabled.  Though it would be a good move to disable both deposit and withdrawal until the player undergoes KYC and got approved.  This way, lots of same problem about withdrawal will not happen.

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Welcome arcanebetcasino!
According to lionheart's review, players have to complete kyc before being able to withdraw their money. Personally, I have no problem with the KYC requirement but I believe it's better if you enforce it upon registration or, at least, make sure that all your customers are aware that they wouldn't be able to withdraw without verifying their identity.
You can add it to your ToS or add a warning on the deposit page.
Yes it is an important thing they should give a warning on the deposit page that if one wants to withdraw his fund he must do KYC.  This will alert everyone and if anyone has any problem with kyc verification then he will not deposit his funds there.  This will free people from harassment . On the other hand they should have a system to withdraw even a small amount of funds without kyc.

Actually you can’t deposit your crypto in the casino without finishing the KYC since this is the standard rule when KYC is applied asper terms. There’s no need to require KYC during registration so that user can still access and explore the casino after account registration. I knew some casino that have this kind of strict KYC requirements but they will not allow you to deposit.

You got it mixed up. They would ask for KYC upon withdrawal and not upon deposit. If they don't allow anyone to deposit without performing a KYC, it would be a bad move since a lot of people would surely want to try things out first before getting fully committed on the platform. Arcanebet can always choose to give out play credits on their users but with this way, they can easily get a trickle of profits and letting people play the game with actual money.

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September 10, 2022, 08:01:02 PM
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You got it mixed up. They would ask for KYC upon withdrawal and not upon deposit. If they don't allow anyone to deposit without performing a KYC, it would be a bad move since a lot of people would surely want to try things out first before getting fully committed on the platform. Arcanebet can always choose to give out play credits on their users but with this way, they can easily get a trickle of profits and letting people play the game with actual money.

They always have an option for the interested party to try the game for free.  So if anyone wanted to have a feel of Arcanebet games, they can just go to the site, go to the provider of the game they wanted to play and just click the >> try for free<<, you can then play the game even without registering to the site.


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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.
That's what happen to me when I was checking a casino but sadly I can't even test their games or even wanted to explore the site but in order to do that is I have to create an account but in the end, it made me skip the site and find another site to test first. So yes, I think it should be a standard for the casinos to be once they launch their casino for different people to try out first before using actual money.

I very much agree in regards to the importance and reasons why.

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It should really be standard,right? Just like in most platforms where there are free credits which you could really able to test out a particular game without the need of depositing real money.

Yes, it is indeed true that whenever we do see new sites then hesitance or doubts would really be there so it is really just right that we would really be testing out with some free money or faucet or to those credits which it would really be that preferable if we do really have this thing rather than on having not at all.

If ever people wont able to test out the game and have those doubts then likely they would really be just simply ignoring and skip out most of the time.
That's what happen to me when I was checking a casino but sadly I can't even test their games or even wanted to explore the site but in order to do that is I have to create an account but in the end, it made me skip the site and find another site to test first. So yes, I think it should be a standard for the casinos to be once they launch their casino for different people to try out first before using actual money.
Some do really need for you to make some registration before you could able to fully utilize the features and its up to someone if they do really able to bare out the hassle on making registration for the

sake of trying out the game and it is really indeed available on some platforms which you could definitely test out directly with those free credits and thats the only time whether you do decide to have

registration or would just simply skip out.Well, some are really just too lazy and wants to have that easy and fast dealing with things.  Cheesy

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September 11, 2022, 11:42:21 PM
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if this is intentional you know that you should have a copper account and a well-designed announcement thread but you opted not to and just wait for what the community will say because they will recommend it eventually
I don't think they did it intentionally (not buying copper membership). Most likely, they didn't do it because they are still new to this forum and didn't know about the benefits of the copper membership or how to make a proper announcement thread.
Anyway, what matters most is that they decided to buy it which means they care about the opinions of the community and take their suggestions into consideration.

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you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino
Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

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Thank you, everyone, for the latest comments. We have read through everything carefully and appreciate the feedback.

One of the reasons we have started with a simple introduction rather than a full-blown marketing campaign is to collect these precious insights as to what truly matters for the player to evaluate the possibility of adapting to and introducing the specifics that appear to be most important.

Having built a propitiatory solution (platform), we are luckily very agile.
So you don't want a good impact right away and you want to start from scrap, if this is intentional you know that you should have a copper account and a well-designed announcement thread but you opted not to and just wait for what the community will say because they will recommend it eventually then I think its a bad strategy if you've done these all right away we can all focus on your casino and not what you should do, its a waste of time, I admire casino that came here fully prepared.

But anyway congratulations you've done it, keep it up, the competition is very stiff, this is a very huge industry I'm sure you'll find a place here as long as you are active here and keep up posted.

I am very much in agreement with your opinion, but everything can be improved, of course yes, you can still start with a good signing campaign in the forum so that they have more visibility and can have more authentic players, noticing that they want to get ahead with their own efforts is something that I respect a lot, in fact I created my account and the site is good, I would also like if they could do something more, maybe if they give some bonuses for bitcointalk users, maybe a select group, a bonus to try the games, make the withdrawals, I don't know if they condition it with some kind of wagering conditions or something like that, this will attract much more attention in a good way, of course, it's just a suggestion.

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September 12, 2022, 08:05:51 AM
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welcome to the forum, I would like to understand the following:

you have curacao license, the same license that most crypto casinos have and most crypto casinos do not ask for KYC when customers are depositing and withdrawing in cryptocurrencies, so in what part is your curacao license different from the curacao license that do all casinos have?

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino
I am not trying to defend them but they did say on their ToS on the "verification" part that they send emails to people who registered encouraging them to go through the verification process as soon as possible to avoid delays when withdrawing. that being said, I Kind of agree that if they require KYC upon withdrawal they should just ask for KYC upon registration.

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September 12, 2022, 08:14:57 AM
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Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.


I don't think it's the fault of the casino since it's already stated on their ToS even before the gambler created his account on their platform. Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules. Most gambling casinos implement KYC verification now so it should be expected even if there is no warning upon creating an account on their website.
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September 12, 2022, 02:30:04 PM
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Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.
Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.

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September 12, 2022, 03:18:30 PM
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you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino
Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.

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September 12, 2022, 05:21:27 PM
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you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino
Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.


Oh this should be clearly written and stated on the gambling website. If you have plans on implementing KYC function, then it must be introduced at the earliest stage possible whenever a person would like to create an account.

If the gambler deposits money without requiring any KYC but in order to get their profits they have to submit KYC documents, this would put them on a heavily prejudiced situation which might cost the reputation of your gambling website. This would result to a very unfair situation to the player as this would basically compel them to submit these documents.

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September 12, 2022, 05:53:20 PM
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I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.


I didn't see Ecuador on the list of restricted countries, so I think you're fine.

We would love to be able to accept players from every country in the world, but due to several elements, it is not possible at this time.

If you're from one of the following countries, sadly you will not be able to register an account with us: Aruba, Australia, Belgium, Bonaire, Curacao, China, Estonia, France & outlying territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Malaysia, The Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Russian Federation, Saba, Slovakia, Sint Eustatius, St. Martin, Sweden, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ukraine, USA & outlying territories, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (AKA North-Korea), Yemen, Cuba, Syria, Sudan, Afghanistan, Oman, Qatar, Romania.

A word of advice, you should always read the terms of service on a new gambling site before you sign up.  Wink

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September 12, 2022, 08:51:30 PM
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I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.

The casino has many slot games, it is a casino to exploit its full potential, they have games that any player can like, there is something for everyone, it looks like the casinos that have been here in the forum for a long time and years of experience, they took pains to put up a very nice and well presented casino.
Thank you for the great feedback as well as for registering with us! Players from Ecuador are very welcome :-)
To ensure your time with us is as flawless as possible, we always suggest performing KYC/Verification straight away.

I didn't see Ecuador on the list of restricted countries, so I think you're fine.
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As well as thank you for all the other comments earlier about the KYC progress, and how most of you believe it can be optimized further. It is being evaluated, on top of the items that have been raised earlier throughout the thread.

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

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Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.
Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.
Many gamblers are just looking on the highlights of this site and with OP there’s no statement about KYC so most probably it’s KYC free but can still be asked later on. Even if its too long to read ToS, I still see the importance of reading it since many incidents before, they are shocked when they asked to provide KYC after making withdrawals, they started to panic because of that.
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After playing a little in the demo version of slots, it seemed to me or maybe just lucky this time that the most attractive slot seemed to be "Chilli heat megaways" from the provider pragmatic, but I can be wrong of course it takes a long time to try out all the slots.

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Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.
Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.
Many gamblers are just looking on the highlights of this site and with OP there’s no statement about KYC so most probably it’s KYC free but can still be asked later on. Even if its too long to read ToS, I still see the importance of reading it since many incidents before, they are shocked when they asked to provide KYC after making withdrawals, they started to panic because of that.
If necessary, the casino will ask for KYC from its members, especially if the casino finds suspicion on members suspected of cheating or violating the TOS. So I think it's only natural that one day, casinos do KYC to their members to ensure that their members are completely clean of illegal acts that are proven to violate the TOS. It would be better if users read the ToS so that they don't violate the rules set by the casino.

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September 13, 2022, 10:49:29 PM
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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.
Seems like a good idea and it will encourage those who are still undecided to pass kyc. This way you will attract more players and, at the same time, you'll be sure they will verify their identity which means a better user experience and less complaints about kyc. But the success of this strategy will depend on how much you will offer as a bonus.
Personally, I will wait till you earn enough reputation (no offense) so I can be sure my personal information will be safe with you.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.


KYC wont really be necessary if we do speak or talk about bonuses and it wont really be that prone to abuse as long  you do set out specific rules or terms.There might be some lessening of some terms
so that people would find it interesting but you shouldnt forget that this would be strictly 1 person per 1 IP.I dont really see any possible ways for it to be abused since this is mostly the case
where bonuses been abused if there would be no limitations per user on certain household or IP.We've seen some sites do being wrecked just because they had forgotten to set
these common specific rules.

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Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.
Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.
It's okay if they don't read it but they must face the consequences of doing so because I noticed that many of these lazy gamblers still complains right after they are being requested by a KYC upon withdrawing their funds when it was their own fault in the first place. They just accept the terms without knowing what is written on it but for the high rollers and big bettors, I believe that they are professionals and that is why they became wealthy.

They always read the rules of the site so that they won't end up in a sticky situation because big amounts are at stake whenever they play gambling. Each gambling site should also make the rules more transparent and should make a notice if there are any changes so that they won't be blamed as well.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

Direct answer, NO, I wont be willing to perform KYC just because bonus especially a deposit bonus with rollover no matter how fair the rollover is.
As a small gambler, I dont think deposit bonus is something attractive and I doubt people will try to abuse it.
Never heard about attempt to abuse deposit bonus, logically abusers wont be willing to spend money for something that can may make them lose what they spend.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

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September 14, 2022, 06:05:34 PM
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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC =  BONUS. Gamblers need some options.
Maybe if a gambler doesn't want to do KYC and accepts that he won't get any bonuses, will he later be forced to do KYC if one day he can win a lot of money and wants to withdraw the money? Because this can cause grief that the gambler will experience because he is not interested in doing KYC and as long as he is playing, he is not cheating.

And I think some crypto gamblers don't really want to do KYC, although others are okay if they do KYC.

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September 14, 2022, 08:49:42 PM
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KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC =  BONUS. Gamblers need some options.
We all know this is not possible, especially if the casino is regulated. They will be force to have an AML policy and this will always ensure KYC verification is enforced where necessary. You do know that services that don't require KYC are always at a risk of being used to launder funds from suspicious sources.

I personally hate KYC too, but you would have to understand the position in which some of these services are in.

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We all know this is not possible, especially if the casino is regulated. They will be force to have an AML policy and this will always ensure KYC verification is enforced where necessary. You do know that services that don't require KYC are always at a risk of being used to launder funds from suspicious sources.

I personally hate KYC too, but you would have to understand the position in which some of these services are in.

I agree with you. We've recently seen an increase in queries relating to the topic of KYC and why some platforms require it and others do not. As far as I can tell, some gamblers strongly oppose KYC, while others agree that it is necessary to have KYC on regulated platforms, but are willing to provide their personal information only to reputable platforms.

arcanebetcasino, I think that's a good idea. If KYC already has to be done on the platform, then an offer of a good bonus is an additional incentive for people who are still undecided. However, as someone already mentioned, this strategy will succeed only if you offer a really good bonus.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

My privacy for bonus with wagering requirement? I will not be willing to reveal my document for such bonus obviously. Of course it is all about preferences, but for me it does not make senses to pass KYC just because of bonuses with wagering requirement. I will prefer to pass KYC when I win huge amount only as it can be something worth for me, but for bonuses with no guaranteed value? I will never do it.

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My privacy for bonus with wagering requirement? I will not be willing to reveal my document for such bonus obviously. Of course it is all about preferences, but for me it does not make senses to pass KYC just because of bonuses with wagering requirement. I will prefer to pass KYC when I win huge amount only as it can be something worth for me, but for bonuses with no guaranteed value? I will never do it.

I understand what you're saying. There's no denying that majority of crypto users do not like KYC on any platform, least of all on an online casino. I agree that people hate it, but we also have to understand that it's a necessary evil. Many gambling platforms already require some form of verification due to legal regulations and the KYC has been the price you pay for compliance. But, if casino sites want to attract more players, the best thing they can do is to add bonuses that are designed to help newcomers enter the game. After all, even if we don't like KYC, we accept it since it is the price we have to pay to use the platform. Why not give newcomers some benefit for their compliance, such as bonuses to make the experience more fun?

There has already been a suggestion that it would probably be best approach for the casino to give players the option of filling out KYC details (with the welcome bonus) or requiring KYC only when withdrawing larger amounts.

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September 17, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.


KYC wont really be necessary if we do speak or talk about bonuses and it wont really be that prone to abuse as long  you do set out specific rules or terms.There might be some lessening of some terms
so that people would find it interesting but you shouldnt forget that this would be strictly 1 person per 1 IP.I dont really see any possible ways for it to be abused since this is mostly the case
where bonuses been abused if there would be no limitations per user on certain household or IP.We've seen some sites do being wrecked just because they had forgotten to set
these common specific rules.

KYC has its reasons. From a legal and technical standpoint is serves to protect both the rights and lawful regulational activities of online gambling casinos as well as the rights and freedoms of individual players/customers/clients. So saying that KYC won't really be necessary without viewing the legal requirements and the technical security perspective is a bit irresponsible. And I would never recommend going such a path. Especially if you put in a lot of hard work to create and run your own online gambling casino.

As far as IPs go, without KYC you can expect people to change their IPs and register multiple accounts with which they can cheat the casino out of bonuses and other things. Its also not a good idea to leave out KYC because of this.

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After playing a little in the demo version of slots, it seemed to me or maybe just lucky this time that the most attractive slot seemed to be "Chilli heat megaways" from the provider pragmatic, but I can be wrong of course it takes a long time to try out all the slots.
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From a legal standpoint, offering bonuses just to perform KYC is a generous act from the Casino.  In case the KYC requirement is pushed strictly by the authority, Casino doesn't need any promotion or bonuses to their player just to perform KYC,  but in the current situation where there are still many casinos that offer non-KYC requirement, this offer actually looks unattractive because those who value privacy will just play on that casino.  So I don't think offering a good promotion or bonus just to do KYC won't have success in the current situation of Casino KYC requirements for those who weigh privacy more than the amount they can possibly get.

As far as IPs go, without KYC you can expect people to change their IPs and register multiple accounts with which they can cheat the casino out of bonuses and other things. Its also not a good idea to leave out KYC because of this.

Indeed, this kind of security method is just a kid's trick for the veteran bonus exploiters.

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After playing a little in the demo version of slots, it seemed to me or maybe just lucky this time that the most attractive slot seemed to be "Chilli heat megaways" from the provider pragmatic, but I can be wrong of course it takes a long time to try out all the slots.


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Well welcome to Bitcointalk,

It should be noted that the casino is very fast, its environment is very good and it has very good slots, honestly I like the ones with Zeus of Pragmatic Play origin, but take a quick look at all its casino, it has very good deposit options , and when reviewing the withdrawal option, they seem to be quite demanding with the KYC documents, I have not bothered to do the KYC, but they are usually very strict about them? I know that now it is very common for casinos to require KYC for everything, for withdrawals, I see it as something normal, do you plan to do some kind of promotion for bitcointalk members? something like that?

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC =  BONUS. Gamblers need some options.

Yes, it is, however, according to paragraph # 7 of their Terms & Conditions, during the verification of your verification data during the KYC, the withdrawal of funds will be blocked, and if for some reason you have not passed the verification procedure, then your deposits and winnings will not be returned to you. Thus, before making a deposit, it is better to go through KYC first if you are serious about playing at arcanebet online casino, so Failed KYC= Loss of deposit and wins.
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Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.
Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.
It's okay if they don't read it but they must face the consequences of doing so because I noticed that many of these lazy gamblers still complains right after they are being requested by a KYC upon withdrawing their funds when it was their own fault in the first place. They just accept the terms without knowing what is written on it but for the high rollers and big bettors, I believe that they are professionals and that is why they became wealthy.

They always read the rules of the site so that they won't end up in a sticky situation because big amounts are at stake whenever they play gambling. Each gambling site should also make the rules more transparent and should make a notice if there are any changes so that they won't be blamed as well.

Yes, you are right, it is always better to carefully read the TaC online casino before you are going to make a deposit to avoid the consequences if you need to withdraw funds, you can also be blocked if your country is in the prohibited section and you are trying to pass KYC using a VPN.
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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

My privacy for bonus with wagering requirement? I will not be willing to reveal my document for such bonus obviously. Of course it is all about preferences, but for me it does not make senses to pass KYC just because of bonuses with wagering requirement. I will prefer to pass KYC when I win huge amount only as it can be something worth for me, but for bonuses with no guaranteed value? I will never do it.
I think that for unsecured bonds the issue of complying with KYC is not very necessary, according to what I have read, or maybe there is something that I am missing? In most casinos I have seen that there are some problems due to the KYC requirements, there are even many people who are afraid of leaking their private data, and if it is dangerous, but, unfortunately, there is something that we have to get used to, if we want to be in the best casinos, we must comply with the KYC requirements, because it is a requirement and I see that this is becoming universal, and I think that the greatest obligation is that it be to make withdrawals, because it is the option that forces anyone to comply .

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

My privacy for bonus with wagering requirement? I will not be willing to reveal my document for such bonus obviously. Of course it is all about preferences, but for me it does not make senses to pass KYC just because of bonuses with wagering requirement. I will prefer to pass KYC when I win huge amount only as it can be something worth for me, but for bonuses with no guaranteed value? I will never do it.
I think that for unsecured bonds the issue of complying with KYC is not very necessary, according to what I have read, or maybe there is something that I am missing? In most casinos I have seen that there are some problems due to the KYC requirements, there are even many people who are afraid of leaking their private data, and if it is dangerous, but, unfortunately, there is something that we have to get used to, if we want to be in the best casinos, we must comply with the KYC requirements, because it is a requirement and I see that this is becoming universal, and I think that the greatest obligation is that it be to make withdrawals, because it is the option that forces anyone to comply .

There is no doubt about it, most regulated casinos will require KYC from their customers at one point or another. There is no exception for a crypto-currency casino, most of them require you to sign up with your personal and financial information.

But the question was whether you would be more willing to part with personal information if you were offered a certain bonus for that? At least that's what arcanebetcasino suggested, because it would also reduce the possibility of bonus abuse by bad players.

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We've got a question for the community! Which one of the below listed providers is your favourite, and why?




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@arcanebetcasino, Do you want to hold a promotion from one of these providers?, so ask which is the favorite from member of this forum
I'm sure the answer will be different because everyone has their own preferences and sometimes there is a provider that blocks certain areas so players will prefer the other.
Tebakan saya akan banyak yang memilih A & B but my favorite is not in the list above because I play pragmatic providers, A & B only occasionally while C & D has never played it.

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There is an answer (from the customer service of the site I mentioned in this) that I think is quite necessary for someone who has the same thing as me. And I think this needs to be input for this site. The questions and answers that I mean are in the picture, at the link below. About welcome bonus for first deposit.

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There is an answer (from the customer service of the site I mentioned in this) that I think is quite necessary for someone who has the same thing as me. And I think this needs to be input for this site. The questions and answers that I mean are in the picture, at the link below. About welcome bonus for first deposit.

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You should have just quoted the text instead of posting the screenshot because once your reply is buried under so many replies, One won't be able to search up your query or the reply using keywords such as "Bonus"

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There is an answer (from the customer service of the site I mentioned in this) that I think is quite necessary for someone who has the same thing as me. And I think this needs to be input for this site. The questions and answers that I mean are in the picture, at the link below. About welcome bonus for first deposit.
Although the bonus is not available for crypto users, their answer makes sens and it applies to all crypto casinos. The bonus will be credited to your balance automatically one you make your first deposit (it's called first deposit bonus for a reason!).
What you can do is to send your coins from different wallets to one of your addresses then send the whole amount to the casino in one transaction.

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