The situation with Ukraine and the accounts that supported the war.

[nullius]

An update based on events logically following my last post (“Today at 06:29:28 AM”), which I wish to leave unedited for the record:  I notice now that less than three minutes before I hit the “post” button on something that I had mulled for hours, OP finally added me to his list of censorship targets.

Snapshot—“Last edit: Today at 06:26:47 AM by cryptomaxsun”:

nullius https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210  /Added at my own request. The person is mistaken and confused in terminology. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388472.msg60530156#msg60530156

Well, if I wanted to be targeted for censorship as a free-speech activist, what is worse than being branded an “information terrorist”?  This is.

There is nothing worse than to be denied the dignity of even having my own opinions, and to be told that I am “mistaken” and “confused” about matters which I have carefully considered.  An “information terrorist” has free will, intelligence, and personal agency:  He has the dignity of existence.  He is called “evil”, he is the enemy, he is hated—but he is.  All of those are denied to me:  I am a nullity.  My mind is a passive vessel, into which propaganda is poured by Putin-trolls—my emptiness is filled by that awful Greenwald.

It even seems implied that I am some sort of a victim.  Logically, I must need to be protected from propaganda—for my own good.  Since I have already been damaged by propaganda, perhaps I should be cured of my mistakes and my confusion at the Ministry of Love.  That would be an act of kindness and mercy.

If only I could be cured of Greenwald’s evil influence—if only all of that Putin propaganda could be erased from my brain!—then I would realize that the whole war is black-and-white, Russia is 100% wrong, the Ukraine is 100% right, and the Americans must act as the saviours of the world.  Alas, I am helplessly befuddled by propaganda which has not been adequately censored by the Western Big Tech companies and the Western mass-media.

As a free-speech activist, I could find no better “endorsement” of my position.

Thank you, OP.  You have exceeded my expectations.

Here, in Meta, I am interested in discussing the Bitcoin Forum’s long-cherished policy of freedom of speech.

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^^^ The forum’s policy as such is a properly on-topic discussion for Meta.  By citation to Greenwald’s reports, I have adequately demonstrated that Internet censorship, and especially Big Tech censorship, is a major problem on this topic.  I urge the Bitcoin Forum not to contribute to that, even subtly, by giving the impression that requests may be considered for “an eternal ban” of users with unpopular opinions.

This thread is an attempt to intimidate users with pro-Russia opinions—and even users who have simply refused to take anti-Russian positions.  Not naming names as may draw bigger targets on people—I see at least one person on that list only because he refused a demand that he act adversely to Russians.  [...]

Why is this thread still in Meta?

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[cryptomaxsun]

An update based on events logically following my last post (“Today at 06:29:28 AM”), which I wish to leave unedited for the record:  I notice now that less than three minutes before I hit the “post” button on something that I had mulled for hours, OP finally added me to his list of censorship targets.

Snapshot—“Last edit: Today at 06:26:47 AM by cryptomaxsun”:

nullius https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210  /Added at my own request. The person is mistaken and confused in terminology. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388472.msg60530156#msg60530156

Well, if I wanted to be targeted for censorship as a free-speech activist, what is worse than being branded an “information terrorist”?  This is.

There is nothing worse than to be denied the dignity of even having my own opinions, and to be told that I am “mistaken” and “confused” about matters which I have carefully considered.  An “information terrorist” has free will, intelligence, and personal agency:  He has the dignity of existence.  He is called “evil”, he is the enemy, he is hated—but he is.  All of those are denied to me:  I am a nullity.  My mind is a passive vessel, into which propaganda is poured by Putin-trolls—my emptiness is filled by that awful Greenwald.

It even seems implied that I am some sort of a victim.  Logically, I must need to be protected from propaganda—for my own good.  Since I have already been damaged by propaganda, perhaps I should be cured of my mistakes and my confusion at the Ministry of Love.  That would be an act of kindness and mercy.

If only I could be cured of Greenwald’s evil influence—if only all of that Putin propaganda could be erased from my brain!—then I would realize that the whole war is black-and-white, Russia is 100% wrong, the Ukraine is 100% right, and the Americans must act as the saviours of the world.  Alas, I am helplessly befuddled by propaganda which has not been adequately censored by the Western Big Tech companies and the Western mass-media.

As a free-speech activist, I could find no better “endorsement” of my position.

Thank you, OP.  You have exceeded my expectations.

Here, in Meta, I am interested in discussing the Bitcoin Forum’s long-cherished policy of freedom of speech.

[...]
^^^ The forum’s policy as such is a properly on-topic discussion for Meta.  By citation to Greenwald’s reports, I have adequately demonstrated that Internet censorship, and especially Big Tech censorship, is a major problem on this topic.  I urge the Bitcoin Forum not to contribute to that, even subtly, by giving the impression that requests may be considered for “an eternal ban” of users with unpopular opinions.

This thread is an attempt to intimidate users with pro-Russia opinions—and even users who have simply refused to take anti-Russian positions.  Not naming names as may draw bigger targets on people—I see at least one person on that list only because he refused a demand that he act adversely to Russians.  [...]

Why is this thread still in Meta?

Listen, for you, war, like freedom of speech, is an abstraction. You believe, but you don't understand, it's irrational.
Come to Ukraine, live under shelling, see with your own eyes how everything is going on, talk to different people here, feel the pain of the people who suffered from the war.
That's when we'll talk. And so, this is a conversation about nothing and everyone will have their own opinion.
As the Chinese proverb says, Don't judge a man until you walk his path in his own shoes.
P.S. Let this topic be a list of shame, but not a call to ban people, if it makes it easier for you, I realized that no one will ban.

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Come to Ukraine, live under shelling, see with your own eyes how everything is going on, talk to different people here, feel the pain of the people who suffered from the war.

Buddy, a trip to Donetsk has been waiting for you for a long time.

https://news.ru/europe/raketnyj-udar-vsu-po-zhilym-kvartalam-donecka-snyali-na-video/

[cryptomaxsun]

Come to Ukraine, live under shelling, see with your own eyes how everything is going on, talk to different people here, feel the pain of the people who suffered from the war.

Buddy, a trip to Donetsk has been waiting for you for a long time.

https://news.ru/europe/raketnyj-udar-vsu-po-zhilym-kvartalam-donecka-snyali-na-video/

I did not expect to see anything but pro-russian propaganda from you.

[VKcams.com]

You should go to Donetsk and see what's there, because you're always crying about propaganda.

[cryptomaxsun]

You should go to Donetsk and see what's there, because you're always crying about propaganda.

And why not Mariupol, not Bucha? What has russia done with these cities?
And why not Kharkov, Northern Saltovka?
Donetsk is in many cities of Ukraine, so there is no need to tell fairy tales.

https://twitter.com/MirovichMedia/status/1545414503113842707
https://twitter.com/MirovichMedia/status/1544314264600694785

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And why

https://t.me/shot_shot/41564

Because if it weren't for the constant shelling of Luhansk and Donetsk you wouldn't have to make up excuses.

[light_warrior]

You should go to Donetsk and see what's there, because you're always crying about propaganda.

USB-pimp, have you been to Donetsk yourself? Or are you sitting on your sperm-soaked couch eating the shit they shit in your toilet bowl (which you have instead of your head)?

[VKcams.com]

I'm watching it myself and I advise you to watch it.

https://vgtrk.ru/russia24

[cryptomaxsun]

This scum constantly sprinkles with hatred for the Ukrainians, and again justifies terrorism, a rocket strike in Vinnitsa on July 14 in the afternoon on a cluster of civilians is real terrorism.
Do you, too, justify such scum?
And they express their own and very valuable opinion for the forum and this is never propaganda?
 Snork1979  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392838.msg60566604#msg60566604

КaPФaгeн дoлжeн быть paзpyшeн.

[cryptomaxsun]

КaPФaгeн дoлжeн быть paзpyшeн.

Have you tried seeing a psychiatrist with obsessions?

Fascist, remember, you will have to answer for crimes. And you personally.

[VKcams.com]

https://www.mk-donbass.ru/incident/2022/07/16/nochnoy-obstrel-donecka-unes-zhizni-mirnykh-grazhdan.html

"What are we in for?"

[cryptomaxsun]

Gestalt closed
https://youtu.be/Xbt-nvORB8o

"Russians burn in hell, Orwell applauds you."

[VKcams.com]

The unknown dick from the mountain addresses the Russians. This is a victory.

[cryptomaxsun]

The chmo-moderators in the russian section delete this photo, but do not delete calls for violence, war, mockery of the Ukrainian people, approval of the killing of civilians, and so on.
democracy and freedom of speech that we deserve, continue to consider this forum a stronghold of freedom of expression, fascism in action.

[xandry]

The chmo-moderators in the russian section delete this photo, but do not delete calls for violence, war, mockery of the Ukrainian people, approval of the killing of civilians, and so on.
democracy and freedom of speech that we deserve, continue to consider this forum a stronghold of freedom of expression, fascism in action.

Obviously, you are posting this picture just for the sake of trolling your opponents. And you started doing it in the topic Aллeя cлaвы RU лoкaли
For the understanding of users who do not understand Russian language, I would compare this topic with English Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny

Here is the link to your post: https://ninjastic.space/post/60902406
Just picture to troll someone and smile.

Then you posted this picture again in the same topic, but already adding text with insults and accusations that moderators delete your posts with calls for peace: https://ninjastic.space/post/60903743

Maybe I don't know something and some terrible villain really came and started deleting your posts with calls for peace? Then I cut this post into a separate topic with the title "reason for deleting posts". What did you do in response? You edited the post very fast by deleting all the charges, replacing them with a photo: https://susepaste.org/images/65429508.png

What was that? Some kind of strategic move so that the topic for trolling some of your opponents remains at the root of the section? Sorry, but it's against the rules, whether you like them or not.

[cryptomaxsun]

The chmo-moderators in the russian section delete this photo, but do not delete calls for violence, war, mockery of the Ukrainian people, approval of the killing of civilians, and so on.
democracy and freedom of speech that we deserve, continue to consider this forum a stronghold of freedom of expression, fascism in action.

Obviously, you are posting this picture just for the sake of trolling your opponents. And you started doing it in the topic Aллeя cлaвы RU лoкaли
For the understanding of users who do not understand Russian language, I would compare this topic with English Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny

Here is the link to your post: https://ninjastic.space/post/60902406
Just picture to troll someone and smile.

Then you posted this picture again in the same topic, but already adding text with insults and accusations that moderators delete your posts with calls for peace: https://ninjastic.space/post/60903743

Maybe I don't know something and some terrible villain really came and started deleting your posts with calls for peace? Then I cut this post into a separate topic with the title "reason for deleting posts". What did you do in response? You edited the post very fast by deleting all the charges, replacing them with a photo: https://susepaste.org/images/65429508.png

What was that? Some kind of strategic move so that the topic for trolling some of your opponents remains at the root of the section? Sorry, but it's against the rules, whether you like them or not.

What rules? What are you talking about, why are you deleting this picture and not deleting all the dirt that the russian swine-fascists are pouring?
Are you out of your mind?
This is not even democracy, this is stupidity and the formation of the opinion that everyone is for russia, you are unworthy of being a moderator, once exceeds your authority and deleting posts forms the picture you need.
once again, this forum has shown that there is no freedom of speech!

[decodx]

once again, this forum has shown that there is no freedom of speech!

I can sympathize with your frustration, but don't confuse freedom of speech with following the rules of the community. Besides, moderators are people too and sometimes make mistakes; they have emotions and opinions just like everyone else. As you can see, no one has deleted your post in this thread.